Here's What We Know
So, last night's tweet generated a bit of chatter, eh?
Responses to that tweet break down between outright jubilation (70%), proper skepticism (25%) and efforts to discredit us by some in more traditional media (5%).
While we can't blame the skeptics, it's worth pointing out our track record. We hear a lot of chatter, but we only come forward with things we're virtually certain about. Like this. Or this. We were flamed for breaking both of those, but you know how they turned out.
Before we dive into what we do know, it's important to point out what we're not saying:
- Urban Meyer was in Columbus yesterday or anytime in the last couple of weeks.
- There is a contract in place between Urban Meyer and Ohio State.
Regardless of what you may have heard, we've said nothing about Meyer visiting Columbus nor have we indicated that a contract has been signed between Meyer and Ohio State.
Now, here's what we do know based off of multiple sources that have a proven track record with delivering timely information to us:
- There has long been mutual interest between Ohio State and Urban Meyer.
- Urban has agreed in principle to take the position next year. Numbers have been exchanged and agreed upon via back-channel talks.
- Ohio State and Meyer are waiting for the NCAA to deliver its verdict, after which time, the announcement of Meyer as the new head coach will take place.
- Both parties are on the same page with regards to what they expect to hear from the NCAA. Both parties believe the NCAA's punishment will not be an obstacle to Meyer taking the job.
- While early December has been floated, the university is hoping to hear back from the NCAA later this month.
- LSU offensive coordinator Greg Studrawa, a Fostoria native who coached with Meyer at Bowling Green, is very much in play to become a member of Meyer's staff at Ohio State.
That's what we know at this time. We'll continue to deliver news that we're confident in as it comes our way. We have a five year history of being conservative with what we break and we're proud of not rushing to break news just to have it first.
Comments
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7251458/penn-state-nittan...
Well, he's not going to Penn State, now.
"Death penalty?" Expulsion from the B1G?
it's a very long fall from such a high horse.
Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST
((afraid to say anything, flashes a nod of agreement from the shadows))
If nothing else: Marionaire.
A sternly-worded letter by Emmert. See the last paragraph. Foreboding:
http://www.psu.edu/ur/2011/NCAA.pdf
Yes, we need M1EK to be reinstated for 2 hours so we can all point and laugh at him until he pees his pants and runs away crying for his mommy.
vacuuming sucks
I was just thinking about that clown when all this broke. I 2nd Maestro to reinstate M1KE
Fan of bacon since 1981
This has been especially hard for me to bite my tongue about because of the SEVERE differences between what happened at OSU and what happened at Penn State. For YEARS I have heard (as we all have from any PSU fans we know) about how great the PSU program is and how great Joe Pa was and how theirs is the model by which all other schools should operate. When Tat Gate broke, in my amateur opinion the folks over at BSD took a hell of a lot joy in our shortcomings than even the net nerds over at MGO (I say that lovingly as I do sort of almost respect the guys on that site). Our most bitter rival's fans weren't enjoying our faults as much as a fanbase that tries so hard to insert themselves into the UM\OSU thing did. I watched for weeks as comments piled up comparing Joe Pa to JT and people saying just how different the two men and programs were.
On the same day that rumors about Urban Meyer coming to OSU gather even more steam, Penn State gets notified the NCAA might come-a-looking into just how poorly they handled this whole thing. I felt it necessary to head on over to BSD to see how they took news that their sky was falling worse than before (which in PSU land is saying a lot lately). As expected, there is the off color comments and hyperbole towards the NCAA and its taking every bit of strength I have to not be boastful about this. I really don't want to revel in what PSU is going through because of the reasons they are going through it. There is nothing good about this scandal and nothing good about the pain caused to so many....but the vindication is there. For years we heard nothing but praise about the whole damned Penn State thing and for months we've had to endure cheap shots and back handed comments about just how bad OSU was and just how great PSU was. Tragedy isn't even close to the right word to describe the stuff out at State College but to all those Penn Staters that danced on OSU's grave before it was even dug, I'd like to welcome them to the longest 6 months of their lives as fans. What we as OSU fans had to endure is nothing compared to what Penn State as an institution will have to endure. To the fans of that 'fine' institution, I would like to ask how it feels now that the shoe is on the other foot.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
+1, from someone who lives in the middle of them.
this + ∞
swing hard in case you hit it.
Oh, please. This NCAA "investigation" is launched with the sole purpose of making the NCAA look good. They don't want to be perceived as standing by while this unfolds. The FBI is involved now, and the NCAA, which has no subpoena power, is suddenly going to pop in and act as if it has the power to do anything? What are they going to do? After everyone that had anything to do with this is purged from the university, they're going to roll on by and hit them with probation for a few years? Please. This is small potatoes compared to the aspects of this that are actually important and relevant to the future of Penn State.
Do Want.
Wow. It is possible to like what you see in the gray box.
Because we couldn't go for three.
Yeah, ummm... NCAA? I'm gonna need you to come in Sunday to finish off those TPS reports so we can get a verdict by Thanksgiving. Yeahhhhh, thanks.
Don't sweat it Jason, haters (cough cough Castel cough) gonna hate.
To his credit, Castel said he was referencing another site that rhymes with "doubt". What's been surprising is to see others, that we're friendly with, take oblique shots at us.
Heavy hangs the head that wears the crown
Only concern is the burnout factor with him. If he's over it in a few seasons, I don't know if it's worth it. But on the surface, yes, this is great news.
I don't underestimate ESPN and their BS. Until I see this is certain, I wouldn't put anything past ESPN to, themselves, create "Meyer to OSU" rumors only to gain the gleeful satisfaction of a "MEYER" banner, which proudly declares, "Urban Meyer rejects offer to become next coach at Ohio State....will likely coach elsewhere in 2012"
Out of curiousity... during most of Tatgate, you guys seemed to have sources independent of the scout.com guys. Is that also the fact in this case, or are some these just a rebroadcast of scout rumors?
Basically, many people saying the same thing independently is a lot more interesting than many people just passing on news from one person.
What makes this excisting is that there a lot of people who don't often agree on things saying the same thing (11W, Bucknuts, multiple BSB people)... everyone but Castel.
You're right about "oft-clashing" Buckeye bloggers. Dave Biddle was on "The Big Show", earlier.
He - very confidently - stated:
1.) No bowl ban for the Buckeyes
confirmed:
2.) Back-channel discussions between Meyer and tOSU
suggested:
3.) Not 5 - more like 6M/yr over 7 years.
wellp...if this doesn't scream the next Penn St./Syracuse situation i don't know what does...
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
and yes i know it's wrong...just havin a little fun with the "mugshot"
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
Could be Walrusball 2.0 from that shot
Nothing wrong with a little guarded optimism here dudes and dudettes. Lets just wait, see, and enjoy an OSU win tommoow, a whole slew of Turkey in a week, a W over those jerks up north and let the next few weeks come and go as they may.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Hear, hear!!
Proud to be a Buckeye in SEC territory...Long Live the Vest!!
Class of 2003 OSU/ATI "Where the men are men, women are few and the sheep are scared.."
I really hope all this comes to fruition even though I am a Pro-Fickell guy. Sure hope that somehow, some way he can stay. Keeping Vrabel would be great too. The recruiting team of Fick, Vrabel and Meyer would be very formidable IMHO.
Thanks for the hard work and for being conservative with your releases.
vacuuming sucks
Below is a list of things that could happen in the next few weeks that would save this dreadful year of 2011.
1. Urban Meyer is our new coach
2. We steal LSU's offensive coordinator
3. NCAA bans us from the Insight Bowl this year and we lose a few scholarships over the next few years and we are done with that horror show
4. We make another run at Kyle Kalis with ol' Urban, get him to decommit from Michigan, and then tell him we were just kidding and to have fun with the Hokemeister up north.
This is all I want, not a Best Buy gift card, not a beer of the month club card or a renewal of my AAA membership, just this.
i would literally shit my pants if #4 would happen...i'd lose it
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
I'm not sure what I would do yet, but I will keep that in mind as an option, haha
I will gladly accept phxbuck's beer of the month club membership and a lack of bowl ban, please.
Kalis is going to have the honor of attempting to block big Hank in two years hopefully. That is punishment enough for me. That and wearing Maize and Blue for the next 4 years and living in a cespool of a town in a cespool of a state is good enough for me.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
I agree on all counts.
It always baffles me how a recruit can have his options narrowed down to OSU and scUM, unless a they grew up in one state and had a relative play at the other school etc. Haven't their allegiances ran one way or the other their entire lives? I see no middle ground for Rust Belt born kids. Flip flopping between the two schools is flaky and ridiculous to me.
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
Chris Spielman admits to almost becoming a wolverine before being straightened up by his father telling him he will be a Buckeye.
35 hours to Pasadena! Go Bucks!
My vote for future Kalis abuser would be Adolphus Washington (assuming he commits). If he were to not commit, I vote Michael Bennett.
GLORY BE TO THE STATE OF OHIO THE PRODIGAL SON HAS RETURNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If nothing else: Marionaire.
Call me after the first crystal ball.
PRAISE WARREN G HARDING
Urban! Put aside the
RangerSoutherner! Become who you were born to be! You must return North toMinas TirithColumbus. YOU are the rightful heir to thethrone of GondorWhistle of Woody.+ 10000 Nerd Points. I'm in serious geek mode over this comment.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Lord of the Rings always had a special place in my heart. Not a big fantasy guy. Don't play fantasy sports. Never played World of Warcraft. Never even played Call of Duty or any sort of modern first person shooter or role playing video game. But I absolutely loved the books when I was younger and thought the movies were fantastic.
This rules!
Ever looked at a map of Middle Earth? Where is Mordor located? THE SOUTHEAST!
+100000
If nothing else: Marionaire.
love this. Fick as the well meaning but ultimately incompetant steward fits as well (Boromir? Faramir? Denethor?)
oh no. you just premptively forced me to do something stupid a month into the future. sorry kids, mr. ginter was making a crude paint.net edit of a LotR screencap instead of lesson planning, enjoy copying chapter 2 word for word!
Seriously, this is why I am on this site day in and day out, all day long. You guys keep it real. By the way, PHXBUCK, message me for my address, I'll help you out with that Beer of the Month membership.
Forget Beer of the Month, I'm very partial to the Winking Lizard's World Tour of Beers (if you live in the Columbus, Akron or Cleveland areas).
If you don't, carry on...
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
That's good enough for me!
i do have a problem with all of this information leaking at this time though. This will show to be a terrible distraction i believe and i fall in along the lines of feeling horrible for Fickell. Here is a guy who had a cushy job, gets thrown into the HC position WAY before his time and, i hope this isn't correct, and ends up being ousted from probably his dream job that i think he deserves..just not now. I really hope that if all of this is true, Fickell is still retained in a very important role at The Ohio State
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
He had a serious uphill battle and most likely didn't blink at the opportunity.
No doubt, Fickell wins "man of the year". But, how can you over-look at candidate like Meyer? There is no debate over who is the better coach. It's not to say Fickell can't be better with more experience, but who's the better "right now" guy? No debate, and that's taking nothing away from Fickell. As an adult, and a professional, I am sure he understands that.
oh no..don't get me wrong..Meyer would ABSOLUTELY be the right choice. I just..hope...he is able to fall back into what he really should've been doing at this time of his career at Ohio State. I would hate to see him go elsewhere honestly
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
Me too BuckeyBrown. I am a huge Fickell fan. And for what he has done over the past several months, in my opnion, earns B1G coach of the year honors.
I really wanna be excited about this, I just can't get my classification of Urban Meyer as the enemy out of my head...he was responsible for the worst Ohio State loss of my life, and being that not many things are more important to me than Ohio State Football, please excuse my dim reaction to this... I'm just not sure how I feel about this...
also, why are we not concerned/talking about the health issues which brought about his resignation at Florida? Too much pressue for this guy at Florida, which thinks college football began in th 1980's?? Hows he gonna handle this??
"...keep your enemies, closer."
I have the same concerns, but I had concerns about Tress, as in I didn't know who in the hell he even was type concerns.
This sums up how I feel pretty well. I'm starting to come around to acceptance though...
I hated Meyer ever since I was in Phoenix watching the Buckeyes get destroyed by the Gators. Recently it occurred to me that made about as much sense as Ohioans being fans of TSUN. Now I have decided that I, for one, welcome our new Urban Meyer overlord.
Hokey Pokey, welcome to your Cooper era. Table is ready.
Why do you guys wait for reports to be substantiated at all?!?!?!?!?!?! THAT'S NOT HOW NEWS IS DONE!!!!!
/Brook's Melchoir'd
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
I fully expect that SbB will use this story and run it as "Source: Urban Meyer to OSU in Early December." There will be collages, green arrows, and hastily obtained public documents in a post filled with overtures of Jim Tressel, Pryor, and Talbott.
Please, be honest. This is for science.
Called this. SbB just tweeted basically the same info that you and LeCharles did last night/today.
Please, be honest. This is for science.
God, he's such a tool.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Guess it's finally time to out myself as the author/operator of wartsbybrooks.com
Please, be honest. This is for science.
Really? Well I enjoy your work.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Yeah, it's me. Thanks for the compliments.
Please, be honest. This is for science.
Agree w/ Brewster
Nice work!
"I 've got an El Camino full of rampage"-- Sterling Archer, codename: Duchess
^This.
Seriously. 11W gets roughed up on the radio for reporting credible information and clarifying what is and isn't true.
Yet Dohrmann gets a cover story for completely unsubstantiated information that turned out to be mostly untrue.
If the "Media Elite" ripped into Dohrmann half as hard as they rip into reputable blogs, Dohrmann would be out of the job. This is the 21st century. This is the true free market of information. Blogs are media outlets too. It's up to the market to decide which are credible and which are BS. Not all are created equal, just like not all magazines (cough SI) or news stations (cough ESPiN) are created equal.
So apparently AP is reporting that JoePa has a treatable form of lung cancer according to Scott Paterno. No word whether this was something just discovered or if they had known for longer but are only disclosing it now (timing seems sketchy).
Jason & 11W crew, you have to smile at that!
http://www.cleveland.com/buckeyeblog/index.ssf/2011/11/urban_meyer_ohio_...
"* No one has written a story saying Urban Meyer has signed a contract to be the next head coach at Ohio State. Friday afternoon, Eleven Warriors, which is the best Ohio State blog going, posted a good breakdown of where it stands on the story. Previously, Eleven Warriors had written on Twitter that it has multiple sources saying Meyer has agreed to a deal, and they are 99.7 percent confident of that. Eleven Warriors has been on top of some other OSU stories in the past."
Definitely very humbling....our sources better be right :)
"Eleven Warriors, which is the best Ohio State blog going...":
http://www.cleveland.com/buckeyeblog/index.ssf/2011/11/urban_meyer_ohio_...
Doug L is definitely a friend to the site and a good guy, he's been on the dubcast and i've had a couple of friendly conversations with him at the WHAC. always cool when pretty much the top dog in OSU reporting gives you dap like that
Yes. Definitely like reading what Doug has to say on cleveland.com.
Awesome News guys
1 Question - have your sources said anything about Fickell? is he gone, or will he be D coordinator? Also, is he aware of the 'back channel' agreement?
take it fwiw, but my source in this matter says Luke is aware and will be asked back and is leaning towards yes...of course a head coaching job at a MAC school, etc could change his mind, but as of now it looks like he's back
Im not sure why, but I think that is phenomonal news. Luke isnt ready to be head man yet, but he is a hell of a coach and seems to be a good guy.
Can you imagine that coaching staff from a recruiting stand point? Meyer and Fickell would recruit the heck out of everyone. Not to mention if Vrabel stays, and if Herbstreit gets the QB coach gig (as has been speculated). All four would be dynamite recruiters, and Ohio State would be an even BIGGER destination for high school kids
Meyer/Fickell/Vrabel/Herbstreit/SPEILMAN???? hoooly shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
are you begging to come play at Ohio State yet?
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
WhiteBroU. Stick Stan's pic in there, too for some added diversity and excellence.
Class of 2008
And bring back Hazell
No way Hazell comes back to OSU as an assistant, unless he doesn't cut it at Kent State.
Stan's pic? Agreed. As for WhiteBroU...such references are not useful.
No harm meant. I just believe staff diversity will pay dividends.
Class of 2008
That would be a giant pay cut for Herbie.
And he'd have to move back to Columbus and be exposed to the "5 to 10 percent" of OSU fans who aren't "great" so...
5 to 10 percent of EVERY fanbase is absolutely irrational in their fandom. I know a few personally. I have no doubts that Herbie and his family faced the harassment and threats that they claimed. People slowly driving by the house, or parking outside their house, or even knocking on his door wouild absolutely make me question whether or not this was a place I wanted to raise a family. It only takes one absolute nutcase of these 5 to 10 percent to do real harm.
It would take only one person to do real harm.
This is the obvious downside of being a celebrity. I'm sure Tressel also had his share of drive by's, unwanted visitors, occasional vandalism, etc.
Tebow=runs more than passes, coached by Meyer.
Miller=runs more than passes, coached by Meyer?
Don't know if this true or not, but there are reports coming out that Meyer is at Texas right now, I thought he was still in FL?
QUICK SOMEBODY TRACK HIS PLANE!!!! I wouldn't look to much into this....not sure if he is/isn't in texas, but either MULTIPLE people played a cruel cruel joke on us yesterday or they were flat out wrong....
My uncle texted me that a UT website reported that the AD and Meyer are in a meeting right now.
Going to be ALOT of Urban Meyer rumors until he signs/doesn't sign somewhere......as the great Kevin Garnett said: "ANYTHING IS POSIBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
False Alarm, my uncle likes practical jokes....
Muschamp's departure should give us all a little insight to the long term plans of Mack Brown. Mack isn't going anywhere, this shouldn't have even alarmed you in the slightest.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
That was my thought as well.
What's the cruel joke? You don't have to use names.....
This is false. Urban is not in Texas. Should by flying to Michigan very soon.
I sure wish Tiger would make a damn putt.
source ? get a grip. just saying let the cards play out. No reason to get all worked up w/big game this weekend/senior day, but appreciate the article.
"source ? get a grip" ... "but appreciate the article"
No more sippy cup for you.
Gray Box of Glory.
for once, it's not bad news. haha.
Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST
I heard from a very reliable source this morning as well that it is a done deal.
I have not heard this at all, but I feel that Spiel will be on the staff as well. He played at TOSU when Urban was there (only a grad assistant) but as competitive as Spiel is and given there has been time since his wife's passing...I think he will come along and then take over for Urban when he leaves. They have announced together on ESPN this fall and I just think it is time for Spiel to get involved at TOSU again. He is too competitive to announce forever. Just a matter if it is the right time for him and his kids for the time commitment required for the job. Only he knows if it is the right time.
Interesting to see what will happen with Fick and Vrabs.
Fickell showed too much not to get a HC job somewhere. Vrabel goes with him as DC (you heard it here first).
To all the 11W crew: Nice work on this one and others past. This is the best Buckeye blog by far.
let's just all be happy that we probably won't have to agonize over flight schedules and boating itineraries for a freaking month
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
11W Shirt line! Just sayin'
now if Speilman gets added...that shirt will just get out of hound
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
^Wicked..fear the shirt!!!
Proud to be a Buckeye in SEC territory...Long Live the Vest!!
Class of 2003 OSU/ATI "Where the men are men, women are few and the sheep are scared.."
I pray to God/Tebow that we sign him. Recruiting would be unbelievable!
Buckeye born and bred, a Buckeye 'til I'm dead.
Spielman for LBs coach.
I hope that Meyer is our next coach. But, in a way, I'm kind of sad because the reality of Tressel coming back (as far-fetched as it was), has been put to rest.
I thought somewhere, somehow...I was dreaming, that Jim Tressel would come back.
Oh well....it's going to be a new era.
Now, if the damn NCAA would finally get their investigation over....they were quick to dismiss sCam Newton and Cecil of any wrongdoing. Of couuuurse Auburn and those SEC teams did nothing wrong. Let's go, NCAA...hurry up.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
My take on why I believe this is true (besides the reliability of 11W)...
1) Mainstream news outlets are starting to pick it up.
2) Urban hasn't denied it yet.
3) ESPN has no qualms about reporting coaching rumors. There is one on the CFB page right now. They are not reporting this one.
I'm waiting for the breaking news. Watched Nerdwestern win thinking there would be a notice with reference to 11W.
Meyer may have made it a provision of his contract, he not be the subject of badgering by ESPN, regarding coaching rumors.
You gave me the first sports-related chubby that I've gotten in a while. Thanks, 11W!!
Taquitos.
I HATE it when people write LOL, but you are receiving my first one ever: LOL!
I first heard of this rumor a few weeks ago from someone who spoke directly to a person very close to Urban Meyer, (Sounds ridiculous I know) The rumor was that Urban will be our next coach and it would be announced at The Schott at halftime of the Duke game.
Now the conversation I had this morning with someone who is very connected substantiated what I had heard. Not sure about the announcement timing...it will be hard to keep this quiet for two weeks.
When we played Florida for the MNC is was pissed at Urban for running up the score on us. I felt like it was Bush. The game was over and he didn't need to stick it in the endzone on us at the end by throwing the ball. If he was such a Buckeye, he wouldn't have shoved it up our ass like he did. I think he is an arrogant prick truthfully.
I have a feeling that Spielman will be Asst. Head Coach which will allow Urban to delegate more. I have no info on this... just a hope.
I think he will win the recuiting battle against Fatso and I hope Fick and Vrabs are along for the ride. Fick is a Buckeye through and through and handled himself very well in a tough situation.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONER
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
I have blocked most of that game from my mind, but I don't really recall him running the score up...I mostly just recall the Buckeyes stinking the place up.
He didn't run it up. As Jason posted earlier, UF only attempted 8 second half passes, and took a knee within the ten yard line to end the game.
Correct. FL led 34-14, at half. You can't blame a coach for trying to subdue a team that had been number one - wire-to-wire - during the regular season.
The question is, why did Ohio State get behind three scores, not make halftime adjustments and fail to come back and win?
Auburn came back from 24-0, at half, to win 28-27, in the 2010 Iron Bowl.
The answer to the question: (whispers) JT got straight up out-coached
/hides from mob of angry Tressel Apologists ...
Hoping that at least Fick, Vrabel, and Drayton have the opportunity to stay in some capacity.
Class of 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9XXaU8xnV0
This is me over and over and over if Spielman joins the coaching staff with Meyer at the reigns.
I trust you all and your sources. But given that there have been rumors about Meyer and OSU on simmer for months now, I'm curious as to what specifically might have happened yesterday that prompted the tweet (if such a thing can be revealed without outing the source).
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
A few things:
1. Alot of mf'ers were really happy when Bollman was hired. I swear to God, go look at old Bucknotes forum posts...time will tell if this is the right move. I hope it is, I hope like hell it works out, multiple Crystal Balls, making the weasels move to the MAC to compete, etc.
2. I also hope like hell that Fickell is retained and becomes the coach after Meyer. To echo someone elses post, he is a Buckeye through and through. I'm not in favor of him staying the head coach, but he took a tough job in a bad spot, and didn't blink.
3. Man if this is true, wow.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
It's true. Just like has been said here on 11W...they have agreed in principle to terms. Not inked yet. I would be willing to bet the discussions started a long time ago. I have to think that Fick/Vrabel will stay. Vrabel isn't going to quit pro football to come here for one year. We will see.
You'll be proud of our young people...but most especially in their dealings with tattoo parlor drug dealers being investigated by federal agents- urban Meyer November 29, 2011
Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.
I have an Urboner!
Will Mark may now jump on the OSU bandwagon since his co-worker (friend?) Urban Meyer is (maybe?) HC for the Bucks?
"go not where the path may lead, rather go where there is no path and leave a trail"
Never... Mark May will henceforth refer to Urban as "Judas Iscariot Meyer".
+1
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
Watching twitter tonight, it seems like the Urban Meyer thing has gotten out of hand. As noted earlier, SportsbyBrooks has reported it... probably solely based on 11W's report. Now that they have reported it everyone else is picking it up, too. This has led to several major new outlets reporting it, including SI. Even though the SI report simply cites SbB and 11W, in the twitterverse it is now "reported by SI" and since it is "reported by SI" that, of course, makes it true. Because of that, other news outlets are reporting on it. Bruce Hooley has apparently stated, though it was tweeted through another sports reporter, that Urban has denied the rumors.
To follow up, I am concerned that what was once true is going to be another Les Miles to Michigan because of the scrutiny.
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
Silence such dark thoughts!
Les Miles had to prevent his National Championship contending team from mutiny-ing. He had no choice but to hold that press conference, and once they won it all he had no choice but to stay in Baton Rouge.
Unless Mark May and Herbie hold Urban hostage in Bristol (wouldn't put it past them), who exaclty does Urban care about that would not want to hear this news?
And ESPN would like nothing more...which is why I am thinking this may be true. If it weren't ESPN would be at the front of the parade, only to knock it down with an unrepentant joyful heart.
As an example, some idiot actually just wrote " If anyone is doubting Urban Meyer accepted the Ohio State job. Sports Illustrated has published it."
If you read the SI report you will understand how stupid that is.
facepalm. Fawking internets. My take is this: this is not another Mad Hatter situation because Urban's only "master" is ESPN right now. Adults. Business. Much easier to walk away from that than a room full of kids you coach and a university environment. The only way media speculation could make this go south of cheese is if Meyer had not fully okayed this with his family, which I really don't see him doing. Coaches wives know the drill, as do their children to a lesser extent.
"I 've got an El Camino full of rampage"-- Sterling Archer, codename: Duchess
To quote Adrian Zmed's character, "Jay", in the 1984 classic Bachelor Party:
"Gentlemen....start your boners!"
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
I know this is essentially infered, but Meyer with Fick, Vrabel, Herbie, and Speilman would definitely be talked about as the greatest coaching staff starting out of all time, regardless of who the offensive coordinator is. Could you imagine gameplanning for them? if that happened, opposing coaches everywhere would brown note in their pants.
There's no way in hell we could afford to pay all those guys mentioned to be coaches. Herbie and Speilman won't leave their nice ESPN pay checks to be position coaches..would they?
Thanks for the news 11 dubbers.
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
and i agree, i dunno where the money would come from, but i would have to guess Meyer wouldnt have a starting salary that mirrored tressels salary at "retirement." I'm sure if they wanted to they could find the money.
Herbie's paycheck likely FAR outceeds the one Speils is getting. I'd guess Speils could easily be enticed, especially to coach at his alma mater.
I mean, Jermaine Dupri said it best.
Taquitos.
I know I've heard Spiels on 97.1 be asked that question, and he didn't say no...And I think we've all heard the Herbie to QB's coach rumor
Personally, I'd be surprised if Herbie left that cush job unless his heart as always been in coaching his alma mater.
He's got the dream job right now.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
Believe me I agree, and I know those are definitely just rumors, but I'm just saying if that, in some universe, was what actually happened, it'd be ridiculous.
AHHHHHHHHHHH I am so happy right now. I hadn't seen this tweet and now my friday night is 100x better.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
Urban Meyer Reportedly Denies Ohio State Agreement As Speculation Runs Rampant
no truth to it b/c he hasn't accepted it X-)
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
I'd say the same if the ink wasn't on parchment. Officially nothing has changes as to his status. He's still employed by ESPN. Decorum while "career exploration" and whatnot. That said, where else does he go if he enters the head-coaching game this year? Watching B-Ball to not go too OCD on the subject. /toolate
"I 've got an El Camino full of rampage"-- Sterling Archer, codename: Duchess
BREAKING NEWS: January 2, 2012.
Former offensive coordinator of Ohio State, Jim Bollman (a.k.a. Walrus) hired as offensive coordinator to the Cleveland Browns.
BREAKING NEWS: January 3, 2012:
Cleveland Browns announce that the last Browns season ticket holder has turned in his PSL, meaning that every seat in Browns Stadium for the 2012-2013 season is now available for sale at the Browns ticket office.
"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell
Off topic but Iowa State/Ok State tied in fourth quarter.
did he seriously just miss that kick? lol
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
You know, it has always seemed to me that every top team has a let down game. The champions are the ones that can get a W. Can fakeOSU pull it out? Given OSU is not in the top this year I don't really care. It will be interesting to see what happens in OT.
OSU #2 goes down. SEC orgy in the title game. FUCK!
Class of 2010.
I will not watch an all S-E-C title. Especially between two teams that have aleady played. I'm probably not the only one.
I suspect very soon that analysts at the WWLiSR will be given their marching orders to back off of homering on this idea.
#fistpumpgobuckeyes
So.... the other day I greeted a Penn State grad/co-worker (an über PSU fan - you can't get him to stop talking about how great the program is) at lunch, in the cafeteria at work, in front of about 10 other co-workers (all good friends), with:
"Did you hear the news? Penn State announced this morning that they are going to leave the B1G Ten."
"No, I didn't. What are they going to join?"
"NAMBLA."
Too soon?
"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell
Did you watch the new South Park this week? I think they probably lost all of their viewers that are Penn State fans. Probably too soon, but that didn't stop me from lol'ing.
Class of 2010.
You should have seen the look on his face. I delivered that joke totally deadpan, sitting in the middle of a long table, about 3 people on each side of me, and about the same on the other side of the table.
He actually... laughed. I thought he was going to tear my head off (ex-military, etc.)... LOL
The guy sitting next to me is one of those guys who can only think in binary terms (what do you want? We're an IT department!), but is a total cut-up. We were rolling that day...
"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell
Ya know, I don't think LSU is invincible either. If they lose a game, like the one against Arkansas, I don't know who the hell will get into the title game. You'd still think they have a shot to make it, but who else? I'm thinking Oklahoma if they make it through with one loss.
so where does everyone from 11W pre-game/tailgate ?
or post-game?
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
Hit up @ramzyn on Twitter. You'll have a real good time.
The more Brooks posts the less I feel good regarding the situation.
I love Spiels, but why are so many people obsessed with the idea of him coaching at OSU? His only experience coaching was an absolutely abysmal single season with the Columbus Destroyers (Arena Football League) in which he finished with a 2-15 record and then fired himself.
I had the same idea on Herbstreit being the QB coach. I wonder how long it's been since the guy even threw a football. Siciliano is probably a better QB coach right now than Herbstreit would be.
Hell, the people who have been complaining about Vrabel should be piping up about this suggestion. At least Vrabel brought that NFL player-tutor reputation as his candidate credentials. Exactly how is Herbstreit qualified to be our QB coach?
Granted I also think this is just a daydream. There's no way Herbstreit is leaving ESPiN. His trajectory is pretty established there.
#fistpumpgobuckeyes
Herbie wouldn't be able to afford to live in his own house (listed for sale in Upper Arlington) on an assistant coaches salary. I wish people would dial back some of these fantasies about Spiels, Herbie, etc. coming home to worship at the feet of Urban. It makes us as a group look like the blind homers outsiders like to call us.
(That said, I do think the idea of LeCharles Bentley as an o-line coach is interesting.)
Agree completely on LeCharles Bentley. However, if this rumor about Meyer is true, I'll doubt we'll see Bentley here. He's been pretty vocal about not being on the hire-Meyer bandwagon.
#fistpumpgobuckeyes
Bentley on O-Line and Bernie Kosar as OC. That's all I ask... speaking of unrealistic fantasies.
http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2011/11/post_38.html
Nice write-up on the B. Miller / Urban possibilities...
"But Jim Bollman, the holdover offensive coordinator from the staff of the deposed Jim Tressel, has no clue how to use Miller."
+1,000,000,000,000,000.........
11w staff - any official response to te Bruce hooley article? Any reason to doubt your sources?
I don't think Hooley was even saying that 11W's sources are doubtful. The point he was making, and it doesn't fit with what the media usually does, is that it is irresponsible for a blog to report that information as they are not 100% certain that Meyer is going to be coach. He's full of it, in my opinion. The media reports coaching rumors all the time. ESPN reports coaching rumors all of the time, and indeed they had one on their site last night. If ESPN was reporting this one I would be willing to bet Hooley would be, too. As I stated last night, the fact that ESPN is not touching it suggests to me that they already know it to be fact (since he works for them), and they are being respectful to a guy that is currently working for them and leaving the news to either when OSU/Meyer officially announce it or an undeniable leak occurs.
I also want to note that he implied 11W was responsible for this morphing in the twitterverse into a fact. They are not. They stated what they knew from reliable sources and their degree of certainty and there is nothing wrong with that.