11W Recruiting Notebook

By Alex on November 16, 2011 at 2:00p
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Urban Rocked The StacheBringing Urban and his stache back would be a win.

Welcome back to another edition of the 11W Recruiting Notebook.

In this week's segment, we break out our first B1G Recruiting Rankings, and while you'll be happy with where the Buckeyes sit, you won't be happy with who's at the top. Of course, that can all change, if a certain someone is announced as the new Buckeyes head coach within the next month and makes his magic happen.

We'll also discuss the latest on the elite Cincinnati Taft duo, Adolphus Washington and Dwayne Stanford, and which players the Buckeyes expect in town for their match-up against the Nittany Lions of Penn State. Join us after the jump so we can fill you in on the latest going on in the Ohio State recruiting world. 

Big Ten Recruiting Rankings

Something we've done in the past, but not yet for the class of 2012 is a set of Big Ten Recruiting Rankings. The list makes it's debut in the 11W Recruiting Notebook this week and goes something like this:

Team Rank (change) Commits 5* 4* 3* 2* or Less Top Commit(s) Top Target(s) Remaining
Michigan 1 (---) 24 1 12 10 1 OT Kyle Kalis DE Noah Spence, OT Jordan Diamond, RB Bri'onte Dunn
Ohio State 2 (---) 14 1 4 9 0 RB Bri'onte Dunn DE Adolphus Washington, WR Dwayne Stanford, OL Alex Kozan, OT Jordan Diamond, LB/DE Ifeadi Odenigbo, DE Se'Von Pittman, OT Nick Davidson, DB Demetrious Cox
Penn State 3 (---) 15 1 4 10 0 DT Tommy Schutt DE Noah Spence, DB Demetrious Cox, QB Devin Fuller, WR Cyrus Jones, WR Joel Caleb
Wisconsin 4 (---) 12 0 7 2 3 QB Bart Houston OT Jordan Diamond, OG Danny Isidora, S Demetrious Cox
Michigan State 5 (---) 15 0 2 13 0 DE Se'Von Pittman DE Adolphus Washington, S Demetrious Cox, S Jordan Diggs, WR Monty Madaris, DT Trae Clark, S Bam Bradley
Nebraska 6 (---) 8 0 4 2 2 QB Tommy Armstrong S Jordan Diggs, QB Devin Fuller, DE Taiwan Johnson
Iowa 7 (---) 10 0 1 8 1 DT Jaleel Johnson RB Greg Garmon, OT Jordan Diamond, OL Alex Kozan, TE Will Johnson, DT Aaron Curry, S Demetrious Cox, RB Tevin Coleman
Minnesota 8 (---) 22 0 1 9 12 OT Jonah Pirsig DE Barrington Morris, TE Will Johnson, DE Jean-Marc Charles
Indiana 9 (---) 16 0 0 13 3 OLB Jaccari Alexander (JuCo) QB Gunner Kiel, RB Tevin Coleman
Northwestern 10 (---) 17 0 1 8 8 OG Adam DiPietro LB/DE Ifeadi Odenigbo, OLB Abner Logan
Purdue 11 (---) 20 0 0 11 9 TE Ryan Morris RB Anthony Wales, WR Kenny Orjioke
Illinois 12 (---) 10 0 0 7 3 DT Vontrell Williams RB Anthony Wales, RB Tevin Coleman, CB Jalen Boyd, LB Mason Monheim

Obviously there is a ton of time to go to catch the Wolverines and Buckeye fans should look forward to seeing how things play out as we approach Signing Day in February.

Adolphus and Dwayne Have a Day (Again)

It seems like Adolphus Washington and Dwayne Stanford have been set to make their college announcements 100 times so far this season. Finally, next Tuesday, November 22, the dynamic duo from Cincinnati Taft will let the world know where they will be attending college next year.

As for Stanford, many felt the 6-4/200 wide receiver would follow his buddy Washington to Ohio State for a while, but now some are trending away from that thought. Stanford is set to make his final visit to Oregon this weekend, and word is the Ducks definitely have a fighting chance, but from everything I have been told both from Stanford and sources close to him, I expect him to choose Ohio State as well and continue his football career with his current gridiron and hardwood teammate in Washington.Washington is the #1 player in the state of Ohio and, at 6-6/240, is being recruited primarily at defensive end, with some schools lieaving the possibility of linebacker on the table (think LEO at OSU). He is down to Ohio State, Alabama, Cincinnati, Michigan State, Michigan, Kentucky, and Miami (FL), but it has long been known that he favors Ohio State. I expect Washington to pick the Buckeyes next Tuesday, which would be a huge pick up for whoever is the head coach next season.

Getting these two Taft stand outs would be a huge win for the Buckeyes and would help vault the class, currently ranked second in the conference, up closer to that number one spot.

Weekend Visitors

With Penn State losing to Nebraska last week, all the Buckeyes had to do was to beat Purdue on the road to control their own destiny and set up another epic recruiting weekend in a battle for the Leaders Division lead this week in the Horseshoe. Of course that didn't happen the way we all hoped, but this weekend is still looking to be a strong chance for Ohio State to show some top notch recruits that they should be calling Columbus home in the near future.

He's back!Will the third trip be the charm for Woodard to commit?

We have worked on gathering a list of visitors for the game this weekend and for 2012 you can expect to see some familiar names in Jeannette (PA) S Demetrious Cox and Centerville LB/DE Ifeadi Odenigbo in Ohio Stadium for unofficial visits. Some unfamiliar names you will see are wide receivers Herb Waters and Ricquan Southward, two Floridians who are currently committed to the University of Miami.

For Water and Southward, their official visits this weekend are a product of the Stan Drayton Recruiting Experience. Drayton, who Buckeye fans have been waiting to see reel in top talent from the Sunshine State, has worked hard in keeping in touch with the Hurricane commits and his work has paid off in the form of getting them to come for official visits this weekend. It's definitely not a done deal that either or one of these players would flip their verbal pledges, but it's very promising that they're making the long trip from Florida to check out the Bucks.

As for 2013, two big prospects are making their presence in the Horseshoe on Saturday. First is Billy Price, the Austintown Fitch two-way lineman, who many compare to current Buckeye John Simon. Price is projected to player either defensive tackle or offensive line at the next level, but I personally think the comparisons to Simon are dead on and would like to see him on defense. Either way, OSU would love to land Price and getting him on campus as much as possible definitely helps out.

Finally, the last visitor is one you are all familiar with in Eli Woodard of Voorhees, New Jersey. Woodard is one of the best corner backs in the class of 2013 and will be making his third unofficial visit to Columbus this football season. Woodard also came out for the Akron and Colorado games and is thought to be a heavy Buckeye lean. I don't expect him to make a verbal commitment until there is a new coach in place, but he has said he wants to make a decision early, so nothing is out of the realm of possibility.

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TheOtherDJ's picture

Beautiful, beautiful Buckstache.  Not as immaculate as Spielman's, but a solid effort nonetheless.

Maestro's picture

Pretty sure that's Don Mattingly.

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Maestro's picture

Eagerly anticipating Tuesday's announcements.

On a side note I have to commend all of the coaches who are out there doing the leg work on recruiting.  With all the uncertainty of the future I would imagine some coaches wouldn't pull their full effort into recruiting players for the next group of coaches.  Admirable of them to press on with the cloud of uncertainly surrounding the program right now.

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Maestro's picture

.....and how many of those 15 PSU commits are solid nowadays?

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Alex's picture

we shall see soon enough...I imagine most are now "soft" and want to see the situation unfold

Buckeyejason's picture

Kentucky? Washington is seriously keeping Kentucky in the mix? He's playing football right?

BUCKEYES BABY!

Jdadams01's picture

Kentucky is actually about the same distance away from him as Columbus. I think that and the fact that they showed interest in him early.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Don't get too excited everyone, but a private jet just took off from Gainesville and is heading to OSU-Don Scott. The jet from a fleet owned by a charter service which Urban Meyer has used before. I cannot confirm that Urban is on the plane, but take it for what it's worth. All I can confirm is that a jet took off from Gainesville just now and is heading directly to OSU airport and that this company - Gulf Atlantic Airways (Gainesville, DBA University Air Center) - has been used by Urban before.

BucksfanXC's picture

Please don't start this. I watched with UofM nerds tracking planes owned by the university and Dominoes fly from Baton Rogue and Palo Alto for months. It's pathetic.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

painterlad's picture

I think he is joking.

To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I'm not joking. I'm dead serious. My brother works for a well established private jet company, if you catch my drift.

Baroclinicity's picture

Net Jets?  Jeppesen?

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Except it's a lot different because a UofM or Dominos plane could be traveling for different reasons, AND there's a huge difference in sending the AD somewhere to solicit a coach versus the coach coming to the University.

Like I said, can't confirm Meyer is on board. I just said take it for what it's worth. Hell, it could be someone from ESPN that went to Gainesville to film a segment with Meyer and is now heading to Cbus to do something with the Bucks. It couldn't also be totally unrelated and it's justa  businessman who has business in Cbus and CMH is too busy to land an additional plane right now.

Sgt. Elias's picture

Also Urbs bought eleventy-threeve houses in Upper Arlington and stuff.  /jest

 

If you're right and something comes to fruition I'll buy you booze for an entire night.

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I never jumped on that bandwagon. I know a lot of people in UA, and they never saw Urban Meyer once, so I knew it was baloney.

Jason Priestas's picture

What's the flight/tail #?

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Interesting indeed. For a charter service that flies mostly around the Gulf Coast, kinda funny how one of their jets isn't just going to Columbus, but directly to OSU-Don Scott.

It was also last minute. My brother says the manifest wasn't submitted until after 2 PM.

BucksfanXC's picture

Ok, ok. My interest is piqued. Your brother doesn't know who is on the plane though?

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

jfrank373's picture

So who lives close enough to the airport to see who gets off the plane? It could also have something to do with the two basketball teams playing. Maybe the plane is coming to pick up the team? 

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Nope. The jet owned by UF is much bigger and flew into CMH and left about an hour and a half after the game last night.

Doc's picture

Do you think the BB team would still be waiting for a flight leaving tonight?  I would think their charter left last night sometime.

"Say my name."

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

No idea... Cannot confirm who is on the plane. Not his company, and even if it was, they're not allowed to give clients names, so he wouldn't tell me. Like I said, take it for what it's worth.

onetwentyeight's picture

Any updates? He should be landing shortly at least, right? Does anybody know anyone at the airport who could confirm anything? 

tampa buckeye's picture

Cessna 500 ?Urban always flys gulfstream.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Do you have any idea what it costs to fly on a Gulfstream? If you flew as regularly as Urban, you'd need to make at least $15+ million per year after taxes to fly on a Gulfstream all the time.

The Cessna 500 is a Citation 1 twin-jet private plane. I've flown on one before, they're pretty damn nice, just not luxurious like a G-IV or G-V.

BrewstersMillions's picture

dont kid yourself TB. Cesna 500's are a pretty plane

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Yes they are.... check this one out... And this one was built in 1976!

Doc's picture

Flight lands at 5:33.  I hope your brother can give us some more info later.

"Say my name."

LABuckeye's picture

In the Twitter world this has morphed into "Urban Meyer is in Columbus".

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I saw this... Isn't the telephone effect great? I point out a flight that's heading to Don Scott from Gainesville and say multiple times "I have no proof Urban is on the plane and it could very well not be him so take it for what it's worth".... and somehow that transforms into "Urban is in Columbus".

The fact of the matter is, multiple flights have gone from Gainesville to Cbus in frequent weeks. The only reason I alerted the blog to this one is because A) it's from a charter service that I've been told has been used by Urban in the past B) It generally sticks to the Gulf Coast area, C) The timing suggests a meeting would be possible (he did meet with Ariz. in Miami recently).

So it all looked interesting. Still, no confirmation either way. Do we not have eyes on the ground? I figured we'd AT LEAST get a confirmation that it wasn't him.

Stay tuned. Something is up here. Part of me says this is a big coincidence, part of me says "there's no such thing as coincidences" when it comes to these things. Remember that when the reports surfaced about Brandon meeting with Miles, they were dismissed and then turned out to be true.

TLB's picture

Is Urban calling the game this weekend?

jfrank373's picture

Good question. It is an ESPN/ABC game. The Spielman, Pasch, Meyer trio usually do the noon ESPN game which is Nebraska/Michigan this week.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Seriously, I am not biting or going to be obssessed with this. Only time will tell what the right move was. None of us can predict with 100% certainty if hiring him will be great, or horrible.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Maestro's picture

This is pretty funny.  Well Urban did meet with the AZ AD so maybe he is doing his campus visits round robin.

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Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I'm caught up in this drama now.  Can't say that I wouldn't be excited to have the biggest name out there right now as our head coach, regardless of his history.  

Jdadams01's picture

It would be freakin fantastic to have him sign on, but I'm not going to freak out about this until someone confirmed it was him flying in.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Agreed... Like I said, "take it for what it's worth". There are a lot of wealthy people that live around the outskirts of Gainesville (away from the trailer parks), so who's to say that it isn't someone with business in Columbus, no? OSU - Don Scott doesn't exclusively serve those who have business at the university. The timing of all of this is what makes it interesting.

I would say that there's about a 30% chance that Urban is on that plane. Like I said, the timing is intersting and sort of makes sense.

jfrank373's picture

I have heard from multiple alumni and people familiar with the university say that Fickell will be retained no matter what, and the ultimate goal is to bring in a veteran head coach for 3-5 years who will help set up a new group of assistants and a succession plan to have Fickell take the job in the near future.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Sounds like Urban Meyer would fit that category. Most other guys would desire something longer term.

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

That is the best sounding plan I have heard yet.  Would be right up Urban's alley as well.  He wouldn't be expected to hang around for 10 yrs..

BrewstersMillions's picture

Bit of a concern here. As fun as the speculation is, does anyone worry Urban wouldn't be a guranteed winner at OSU? I know he's won every where he has been (Relativley speaking in terms of BGSU) but does anyone worry he might not have it in him? I guess I'd worry that we'd be getting what South Carolina got with Spurrier-once great coach who never put it together. Again, I'm just playing Devils Advocate here. I guess I'm just afraid for the sake of being afraid that Meyer would be our long(ish) term coach and have him not fully invested.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I'm a little concerned he would be as consistent as Tress, but who can be that good?  He had a few down years, but won 2 MNCs in the proccess.

BrewstersMillions's picture

Yeah-I mean I can live with a 7 win season if its sandwiched between national championships...It is so fun to speculate this as opposed to speculating the hammer of subjective justice that may or may not fall on or around the OSU program at some time to be determined later or sooner depending on the moods of the fickle (no pun intended) NCAA Gods.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

BrewstersMillions's picture

Urban's career record in 10 years of coaching-104-23. Lowest win total was 8 in 2010 with Florida. That's the life after Tebow year. No shame in an 8 win SEC season. In 10 years. JT was 106-23 (Screw you NCAA, 2010 won't be forgotten)....

 

I didn't know Meyer was that consistent to be honest.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

M tots's picture

Very impressive!  I also had no idea he won on such a consistent basis.  Especially since he was coaching at multiple schools over that time span.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

South Carolina has never won an SEC title or a National Title. Hell, they never even won a bowl game until 1995. Their only conference title is an ACC title from the 1960s. They've never had the brand name Ohio State has had, nor the facilities and top notch strength and conditioning team. I see what you're saying, but it's highly unlikely. Urban has won EVERYWHERE he's been.

btalbert25's picture

That's the thing, sure Spurrier lands a huge recruit like Lattimore or the kid from last year, I can't remember his name, but I don't neccessarily think his classes are deep.  Hauling in the recruits that he would here, Urban would win ball games.  Especially in the B1G.  It's just not that good of a league.

Maestro's picture

Clowney, and Jeffrey ain't bad either.

Spurrier has done more at USCe than anyone before him pretty much.

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prg's picture

Head coach meyer...

Head coach in waiting fickell...

 

delusions of granger, but fricken awesome!

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

Delusions of Granger?

 

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

onetwentyeight's picture

I AM NOT GETTING SUCKED INTO THIS AND HAVING A LET DOWN LATER 

 

/ anxiously tracks flight while in class

Jason Priestas's picture

The plot thickens. Jim Tressel has flown in for the coronation: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N41PG

sharkvsghost's picture

urban's at adriatico's crushing a buckeye...

swing hard in case you hit it.

TLB's picture

I think I saw him at the Stube

Chris Lauderback's picture

Impossible. Me and Urbs are playing Keno at Zeno's. 

mln330's picture

It says the origin is Ohio State University, not destination.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

pretty sure that's a joke.

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

BucksfanXC's picture

We can't get a new coach without consulting the Don, the Vested One speaks and the Bow Tied One listens.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

BuckeyeChief's picture

Has it EVER crossed ANYONE'S mind that he might be there doing an interview with Fickell on coaching at Ohio State this season with all the drama? Or Miller?

Please tell me I'm not the only one who has thought of this.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

M tots's picture

Do you mean as part of his ESPN duties?  Other than the training camp stuff at the beginning of the year, he doesn't do many interviews, etc (at least that's my understanding based on the little ESPN that I watch).  And plus, wouldn't ESPN be using their own flight services or whatever to send him there and not a primarily local Florida one?

BuckeyeChief's picture

You are probably right.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Denny's picture

Creeping on what might be Urban Meyer's flight plans >> following Urban Meyer's daughter on Twitter >> calling his daughter names

Taquitos.

Maestro's picture

you mean the slutbags?

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TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Yes, I will agree, there's a fine line between "investigative reporting" and stalking. Considering I was at GaTech for the VaTech game on Thursday and made no attempt whatsoever to find out where his daughter lived or hung out, I'd say I'm still pretty far away from that line. I know many journalists (and analysts at hedge funds) who have gone to much creepier lengths to get information (I have stories that would make your head spin). What i do is take all available data which is public, analyze trends and put together timelines, and then make an assessment based on said information. That's why I alerted 11W to the flight last night. A lot of the details suggested it could be something more than just a normal flight. There have been many flights from Gainesville to Cbus (CMH and Don Scott) in the past several weeks, but I never felt it was necessary to alert 11W to them because none of the other details matched up. So my reason to alert 11W last night was basically to say "Hey, does somebody know someone as Don Scott that can check this out?". Remember, I said several times that it probably wasn't him. I'll be keeping an eye on the return flight. A NetJets or ExecJet (national charter services) smetimes leave planes on the ground for awhile, but regional charters often do not leave their planes outside the region. There's a usually a planned return flight. Hell, it could be a professor on a speaking tour whose next stop was OSU. It could be the charter service itself negotiating a partnership with NetJets (though they would have flown into CMH).