QB Battle Rages and Other Camp Notes

By Danny on August 11, 2011 at 1:55p
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Say it ain't so, Joe.

From the very first snaps at today’s practice one thing was on everyone’s mind: Who’s going to grab the starting QB spot? All four QBs on Ohio State’s roster were front and center, being analyzed down to the smallest details. Bauserman, Guiton, Graham and Miller each took their reps with no clear front runner to start the day.

For what it’s worth, Bauserman took the majority of the first team snaps. It’s clear Fickell lacks experience when it comes to his choice at QB this season, which is why he’s probably preferring to see a lot of Bauserman, who has the most experience, even if Bauserman only has 47 total snaps since 2008. By the practice’s end, Bauserman had done little to separate himself from others. His passes were usually short throws, preferring to dump it off to his running backs, particularly Jordan Hall. Needless to say the Bauserman for Heisman train has still yet to leave the station. But one thing that is clear is that Bauserman displayed a poised, confident approach when leading the offense. Clearly experience was on his side.

Following Bauserman was Kenny Guiton. Don’t ever get it twisted, Kenny G has a lot of talent, a strong arm, great height, and a terrific attitude, but he clearly lacks accuracy and that word again: experience. Guiton made some nice throws every once and a while, including a long gain to DeVier Posey. Guiton has the tools and is a great teammate. After every series he ran, you could find him complimenting and encouraging teammates, just really trying to be a leader. You could tell Guiton really believes he has a shot to win that starting spot, and I really like the guy, but he still needs to develop his game and refine his skills.

The next QB taking snaps was a little bit of a surprise, Taylor Graham. Many have already come to the conclusion that Braxton Miller will be the guy at some point this season, but people’s assumptions didn’t help out Miller at all this practice. Graham got the nod to take his snaps before Miller, and that’s about the most notable thing I can really say about him. Graham struggled a lot, throwing lazy passes or completely missing open assignments down field. You can see what the coaching staff likes about him: He’s big, and has a great arm. But his passing still needs work. His red-shirt season last year was his time to master the playbook, but he still looks lost when he’s under center. I don’t expect to see a lot from him at any point in his stay at Ohio State, but he certainly does have the tools to compete.

Last but not least, drum roll please, Braxton Miller. The perennial favorite of most to eventually take over the starting QB position at some point this season found himself taking snaps behind everyone. Miller is certainly talented and has the upside that makes coaches drool, but he needs some seasoning. His passes were mainly short throws, but he did eventually showcase his arm with a great completion to Posey. I was even fortunate enough to catch a glimpse of his scrambling abilities and I couldn’t help but be impressed. No one denies he has the talent and the ability, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we didn’t see Miller start the season. Miller still needs to develop his ability to pass in the pocket and to get rid of the ball quicker. It also appears he has a nasty habit of occasionally throwing into coverage. It’s clear that none of the before mentioned QBs have Miller’s talent, but Miller still has to get the play book down and become a more effective leader. At this point, look for Bauserman to most likely continue getting first team reps unless Guiton or Miller can separate himself from the bunch.

Besides the QB battle, today’s practice also seemed to be aimed at torturing Buckeye nation with the loss of DeVier Posey for 5 games this season. Posey made plays look easy and he made it clear what the Buckeyes will be without for their first five games. It didn’t matter who was throwing it to him, Posey was coming down with the ball and making plays down the field. It was a message to the younger receivers that they would need to step up this season because Posey’s loss was felt as early as today.

While the offense had its moments, the defense shined today. The offensive line had a lot of trouble containing the defense whether it came down to pass protection or run blocking. The defense is going to have to be the heart of this team this year because of the offense’s lack of experience. But without a doubt the defense has some great talent. Dionte Allen is looking like a guy who can make some plays; he was typically the one drawing the assignment of Posey. Doran Grant was also playing very physical and tough in the passing game, at one point even knocking down big-bodied T.Y. Williams.

In the running game, Hyde and Hall look like they’re going to be getting the majority of the snaps for the offense in an effort to replace Dan “Boom” Herron. Both made some spectacular plays, running around defensive lineman and through helpless defensive backs. If there is one position the Buckeyes have depth at, it is definitely running back. Hyde, Hall, Jaamal Berry, Rod Smith, and Herron, once he serves his five game suspension, will be a great combination of players to have in the backfield.

Overall it was a very intense practice speared on by chants from coaches of “don’t let them dictate our tempo,” or “make a play for once in your life.” But these intense chants created an atmosphere that was competitive, and the team will need it if they hope to find some answers for the various position battles going into this season.

 

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dmurder's picture

"In the running game, Hyde and Hall look like they’re going to be getting the majority of the snaps for the offense in an effort to replace Dan “Boom” Herron."

I thought berry was looking like the top back? I guess there is a lot time to see what happens.

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

CLT Silver Bullet's picture

I feel discouraged everytime I read that Bauserman is getting the majority of the snaps with the first team, especially when this report reads of Miller essentially as the 4th string QB!  Also, I have been expecting to hear about Berry becoming more of a feature back with Hall split out wide, which can still happen, but not the information I was expecting to hear at this point.

From everything I have heard, the DLine looks nasty.  Big Hank has been getting lots of praise and should be a huge force this season.  I really think the defense is going to be a top 10 defense and if we can protect the ball we should be fine.

Any other WR's (Smith, Reed, Brown) looking strong so far?

Denny's picture

'Miller is certainly talented and has the upside that makes coaches drool, but he needs some seasoning.' 

Mrs. Dash?

Taquitos.

Scott K's picture

Shake n Bake

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Roger's picture

Alas, I have no agility or speed analogous seasoning reference.

Danny's picture

Reed and Brown showed some speed today and caught some passes for a short gain. Smith showed he could be explosive, but he was mainly used as a decoy today. I'm really excited about Smith's potential, though. They'll find some creative ways to use him this season. If T.Y. Williams learns to use his body and create some space, he could be a threat as well.

dmurder's picture

The fact that they are using a freshman as a decoy is a good sign.

Stonebrunner looking consistent?

Have you guys really got a chance to see braxton use his legs. I keep hearing that the d-line is nasty, and pushing the o-line around. Has that forced any runs of notice?

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

Danny's picture

Stoneburner caught a few completions for big gains in 7 on 7s. I saw no indication that they were trying to get him the ball more, though. Maybe they were working on other things with him, but when he got a chance to work in the receiving game he didn't disappoint.

Braxton did have two nice runs as well. When his receivers weren't open, he did a nice job of tucking it under and making plays with his feet a couple times. We'll still have to see how he handles taking hits when there's finally some full-contact, but what I saw out of him looked promising.

 

biggy84's picture

I would like to see Guiton win the qb battle. He really impressed me in the spring game last year. I would think that if the staff intends on Miller playing at some point that Guiton would ease the transition better. Bauserman and Graham have totally different styles that would represent different protection schemes.

Shaun's picture

The QB order for snaps has been Bauserman, Guiton, Graham, Miller since start of Spring. How is it a surprise that Braxton was taking snaps after Graham?

Another Jason's picture

My thoughts exactly.  This just seems like a seniority thing to me.  Don't read into it.

Buckeyejason's picture

Nothing suprises me anymore with who's going to play where, and start etc. This qb thing really scares me right now. You can't win with a shitty qb, don't care what anyone says.I really wish we developed qb's and OL's better than we do.

Gotta love J.Hall, the guy looks like he's 5'7"..wasn't highly touhted and just balls out.J.Berry will make take a couple kick off's back this year at least.

BUCKEYES BABY!

BacknBlack's picture

 

 

Thanks for the practice reports guys, have looked forward each day to the updates.

The silver lining to Tressels retirement is the open QB battle. If JT was still running the show Bauserman would be the starter, no discussion.

yrro's picture

I think people need to have a little more faith in our quarterbacks. We aren't in a bad situation - all of the guys have several years in the program. I don't expect any of them but Miller to eventually win a heisman, but any of the three should be able to hand the ball off to our massive stable of running backs and make an occasional throw. The line should be decent this year, so it shouldn't take much to be above Big Ten average.

Bucksfan's picture

Well, put me in Guiton's camp.  He showed up Pryor in the spring game in 2010 when Pryor struggled on his first drive, then Guiton came out for the other team and marched right down the field for a TD.  I know that all the QB's threw TD passes in the spring game this year, but I like KG.  I don't know what you mean by having a lack of experience.  He's been around long enough...this is his 3rd year.

So, if no one else is going to tout him, I'll gladly take up the honors.  Team Kenny.

BoFuquel's picture

Brax couldn't take a strong hit in HS. The B1G will kill him. Give him the red shirt, let him run the scout team for a year. Then he will shine. Let's take our chances with Tic, Tac, & Joe.

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

The talk of the D-line being nasty makes me nervous.  Are they that good or is the O-line a weak spot (again)?

Johnny Ginter's picture

the eternal question

tampa buckeye's picture

The oline has atleast 3 future pro's so ya the d-line is pretty damn good.

Buckeyejason's picture

Adams, Brewster...? Shugarts is a long shot to get drafted.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Roger's picture

What? Shugarts is a 3rd to 5th rounder by most scouting services.

buckeyedude's picture

and Mewhort. ;)

 
 

Bucks's picture

I could *somewhat* handle Bauserman under center if the line was stout. Thus far, the line is getting beat (and beat badly) & immobile QB + mediocre O-line = bad.

theDuke's picture

I would like to be quoted for saying this, so someone please do the honor.  Me: "This is going to be a top 3 overall defense in the country this year in terms of yards given up and points against."   

Mark it on your calendar and get back to me around, oh, I suppose Tuesday, January 10th 2012 will do.  

theDuke

Bucksfan's picture

Dude, no.  Don't even dare suggest this team is going to the national championship.  Crazy talk, even for ultra Buckeye homerism that's crazy.

theDuke's picture

You would have said the same thing in '02... right? Remember that D? NASTY And we all know what Defenses win...

theDuke

Buckeyejason's picture

Shugarts 3rd-5th round? The guy can't even get the snap counts right. Boren and Browning didn't get drafted, doubt Shugarts goes higher than 7th-8th at best.

Mewhort hasn't started one game yet and he's already a future pro...lolz. I hope all our guys get drafted, but history isn't on our side with the big uglies.

Oh I almost forgot, how come no mention of Curtis Grant, isn't he all world,guarenteed 4 year starter, and 1st round pick?(sarcasm font).Heard he's been gettin ripped by Vrabel every practice and looks terribly lost...I know I know its only his 4th practice.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Roger's picture

Boren and Browning were not prototypical tackles. That's why Shugarts will get drafted if he stays healthy.