Wednesday Skull Session

By Alex on June 22, 2011 at 6:00a
167 Comments
I'd go to UNC tooProbably helped recruit a lot of players to Chapel Hill

Good morning El-dub fans and welcome to your mid-week pick me up here at the Wednesday Skull Session. It's one of those weeks for me where I keep thinking it's one day ahead of when it really is (I thought yesterday was Wednesday, etc.). I'm pretty sure the reason for that is that it has generally been a slow week in sports, I guess something we shouldn't take for granted as Buckeye fans in this day and age.

Oh wait, did I say slow week? Well it was a slow week until news broke late last night that OSU commit Kyle Kalis gave Luke Fickell the word that he was de-committing from his verbal commitment. Kalis was the Buckeyes' highest ranked recruit and filled a position of great need in offensive tackle. To make things worse, he is visiting Michigan this weekend and it seems that Brady Hoke may be well on his way to stealing another player from the Buckeye grasp (Tom Stroebel being number one). 

And that's not all folks. It appears another top OSU recruit is halfway out the door, but this one isn't as shocking. The Twitter world was a frenzy last night with word that RB Brionte Dunn of Canton Glen Oak will also back off his verbal pledge down the road. This one isn't happening right this second, but there have been rumors for a long time now that Dunn will likely go elsewhere if there is a bowl ban, which it appears may indeed happen. With Warren Ball already on board and a stacked backfield already in the fold, the loss of Dunn wouldn't normally be so bad, but the fact that it comes at a time like this hurts that much worse. Oh yeah, and once again Michigan appears to be at the top of the pecking order in this one if he decides not to become a Buckeye.

Anyway, I should probably stop talking because if I type this introduction any longer, chances are another recruit will drop and my computer might fry from the amount of anger that will flow out of these fingers. With that being said, it's time to get over the hump with your Wednesday Skull Session.

Better late than never. Many of us over the last few months have tried to make sense of this Ohio State mess. Most of us, short of Ramzy, have not been able to fully grasp the entirety of the situation or can't seem to get our exact thoughts and feelings on paper. That's not true of everyone apparently, as Dan Wismar of the Cleveland Fan turned around this gem covering the entirety of the current pickle OSU finds itself in and what penalties the school faces. I suggest if you have the time you give it a read, as it echos the sentiments that many of us have discussed on this bog over the last few weeks. Tip of the cap to Dan for this one.

Price is right for Pitt. Ejuan Price walked out the Buckeye door before he even officially walked in, and less than a week after he was released from his NLOI, Price has confirmed that his hometown Pitt will be the college of his choice. This was the anticipated destination for the four star linebacker prospect and I think the situation is a good one as Price will vie for playing time sooner with the Panthers and new head coach, Todd Graham. With a stacked linebacking corps not only on the OSU team, but within his own recruiting class, this is a move we may have seen down the road anyway. Best of luck to Ejuan in his career.

Pryor and Gruden go to work. We mentioned it in a Buckshot the other day, but Jon Gruden's "Quarterback Camp" with TP will air on ESPN next Thursday, June 30, at 9PM. The WWL decided they couldn't wait until next week though, and released this short clip from an interview between the head of the FCA and the former Buckeye quarterback:

Gruden definitely asked all the right questions, and it's nice to hear Pryor apologize again, but I almost wish he was even more upfront with his responses. Drew Rosenhaus will never allow him to spill all his feelings out and I can't remember the last time an athlete was completely upfront, but there's just something about TP that doesn't seem completely sincere and I think coming out and saying more would go a long way. What do you all think?

Buckeye state reunion for TP? Speaking of Terrelle, the supplemental draft is still a month away, but that has not kept the buzz away of his possible destinations. Apparently one of the teams interested in taking TP in the draft is the Cleveland Browns according to both the Plain Dealer and Dayton Daily News.

It seems Jon Gruden has spoke highly of Pryor to good friend Mike Holmgren and with Jake Delhomme and Colt McCoy not the sexiest of choices in the quarterback litter, Pryor could definitely be seen as an enticing option to add some life outside of Peyton Hillis to the Browns' offense. The only question seems to be how he'd be received by Buckeye/Browns fans and I think the result would be a mix of cheers and boos.

Buckeye Brownie, it seems you're the perfect candidate for this one. How would TP be received in Cleveland Browns stadium?

Chapel Hill is burning. If you were extremely busy or living under a rock yesterday, you may have missed that UNC was tagged with a Notice of Allegations by the NCAA. You can read the full document here if you'd like, but in case you're lazy like me, the short version is that the school is being accused of academic fraud, giving student athletes preferential treatment including knowledge of impermissible benefits, unethical conduct, and failure by the institution to adequately monitor an individual triggering NCAA agent legislation, the social media activity of the team in 2010, and possible extra benefits to a student athlete triggered by agent legislation.

In addition, former assistant John Blake is being charged with providing false and misleading information to the NCAA, failure to cooperate with an NCAA investigation, marketing athletic abilities of athletes to an agent, and receiving outside income that he did not report to the university. On top of that, alumna Jennifer Wiley is being charged with refusing to provide information to the NCAA and providing multiple extra benefits to student athletes.

Um, yeah, you read that correctly, and what UNC is being charged with is A LOT worse than what the Buckeyes are being charged with. As Ramzy pointed out on Twitter, what OSU did appears a lot worse thanks to the media feast that was held in Columbus following Tatgate, but in terms of penalties, the Tar Heels are likely to get it a lot worse. If you're a Carolina fan, Stewart Mandel does have a positive for you, in that your coach may survive this thanks to the fact that he didn't get or keep any records of emails concerning these allegations

The Ultimate Insult for Greg Oden. To wrap things up, if you didn't catch this TMZ camera man mistake our friend Leg Oden for LeBron, take a look here for a good laugh:

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Denny's picture

I'd love to hear more from Pryor as well, but until the NCAA statute of limitations is up, I don't want to hear a word. There's no need to rouse the angry NCAA beast. If he really is contrite, he'd be wise to not talk about things and get OSU in more trouble.

As a Browns fan, I can honestly say that Browns fans are mentally-unhinged enough as-is; nobody would want Pryor. There's already enough OSU spite within the Browns fanbase (see: the fact that OSU is much better recently than the Browns. See also: Second-Round Draft Pick Brian Robiskie). Also, one time he said a nice thing about not booing LeBron in Ohio Stadium and a bunch of derpery happened because many Browns fans are children, brain-wise.

Taquitos.

Scott K's picture

If the Browns can get him for a 3rd round pick, I'd take him in a heartbeat.  He's got so much upside, regardless of what people tend to think.

I think if he goes to the right team, where he can develop for a couple of years before having to play, he could be very good.

As someone pointed out, Browns or not, once a guy comes in and starts producing for your Pro team, anything that's happened in the past is forgotton. 

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Denny's picture

Somebody pointed out yesterday that the Browns have a lot of picks stockpiled in next year's draft, especially in the fourth or fifth round due to their trade with the Falcons. I don't know if Pryor's worth a third, but a fourth maybe, a fifth most definitely.

Taquitos.

Scott K's picture

Sure, even better if you can get him for a 4th or a 5th.  But with his (possible) upside, no way does he last past the 3rd round.  The NFL is starving for qb talent, and although Pryor is far from being a finished, polished product, someone will definitely take a flyer on him. 

Can someone say "Raiders"?

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

GoBucks713's picture

Al Davis is going to take him in the first round.

-The Aristocrats!

Normal Buck's picture

I tend to agree.  Unfortunately for him, I think the right team would be somebody like the Edmonton Eskimos. 

RBuck's picture

Question: I read something a while back that Pryor may not not even be eligible for the supplemental draft. Forgot the circumstances. Also who/what determines that? Anybody?

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Scott K's picture

I believe to be eligible after the deadline you have to have had a change of playing/eligibility status.

He's forgone his eligibility, therefore he can apply for the draft.  I think this is about it...

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Normal Buck's picture

He's hired an agent now too, so, if he wasn't before, he would seem to be now. . .

Scott K's picture

Read the Wismer article.  It's a good one.

 

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

Doug T's picture

By hiring an agent Pryor becomes elligible. The Dan Wismar article is a great read thanks for sharing.

RBuck's picture

Thanks fellas and I do feel a little better after reading the Wismer piece.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Irricoir's picture

As far as Pryor being contrite, I don't care anymore. Nothing he can say will take away the doubt in my mind. He said his peace. Leave it at that. Time heals the majority of wounds. Let's see how he conducts himself at the next level, for Ohio State will always be mentioned with anything he does in the future. If he can rebound from this and grow up and represent honorably, then I have no problem offering forgiveness. I am just a little jaded from hearing too many apologies already.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

UNC can keep that trailer trash miss piggy look alike....but as other on the inter-nets say, and i doth quote..."DAT ASS..."

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

beserkr29's picture

I thought it before, but scanning Mandel's piece on UNC confirms it:  Guy's a complete tool.  Foamed at the mouth when talking about Tressel, ripping him for everything that was even rumored to have happened.  UNC?  Lighthearted fun.  What an idiot.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

amen!
like I've said all along, these "journalists" are selective in who they go after.

unbalanced.

journalism is a joke nowadays.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

per Oden / LeBron ---- I feel bad for Oden ---- he can't catch a break with the knee injuries, and I think he's probably a good kid. It's gotta be tough, but maybe he can fully recover and play a few healthy seasons.....I hate when everbody piles on and makes fun of him for looking older.

 

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I can't believe Pryor wore a backwards hat. "thug life"

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

yea? "southbay", wearing your hat backwards looks awesome --- everybody should do it, right?

if it were 1989 maybe

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I agree, it would be much easier to pull your head out of your butt if you hat were on the "correct" way.

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

wow, that doesnt even make any sense....but keep up the snarky and cynical comments...theyre really in-depth. get over it.

 

Irricoir's picture

TOS thank you for taking the heat and attention off of my conservative views lol. Just let it go man.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

BuckeyeSki's picture

Let the man dance

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

no problem....finally someone that isnt piling on, thanks

Irricoir's picture

I really appreciate what Pryor said at the end. I don't know the honest reason for leaving or if he did in fact tell the truth. I had a weird feeling about what he said at the beginning like It was ringing true with me but when Gruden asked if he was ready to leave that behind, Pryor looked at Gruden right in the eye and stated that it wasn't fair to his team to bring the extra pressure and scrutiny to them with his presence. I felt very comfortable that what he said at that moment was heart felt. I hope he continues to mature and grow from here. I am not worried about the damn hat you guys keep bickering about, would it have looked more professional in an interview to remove it? Yes it would have.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

exactly my point "Irricoir" --- thank you.

that's what Im saying --- it just doesnt look right in what is essentially an interview.

he needs to show he's matured --- who can argue with that?

and, youre right about what he said at the end --- it's a positive step --- by looking Gruden in the eye...hope its genuine.

I want to see this kid succeed and suprise a lot of people. I think he has JUST as good a chance as the #1 draft pick (sCam Newton) .... it may be a few years of development, but TP can do it

Jason Priestas's picture

I said it yesterday, but it's worth saying again: do not discuss politics on this site. That includes posting photos of presidents which could reasonably lead to follow-up comments on policy, etc.

If you are going to post a photo of a president, it better be from the 18th century.

We let a lot of things fly in the comments, but political talk of any kind is something I have zero tolerance for.

BuckeyeSki's picture

My apologies Jason. I was going for humor not politics, but can def. see where that could lead to increased shenanigans. I'll take my picture to the back of the bus

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

ALEXANDER HAMILTON SUCKED SO BAD!

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

he did manage to end up on the $10 bill though

.... ok , who are the NBA draft experts on here --- I want to know if Lighty and Diebler have a chance to get drafted ---- Im thinking Cavs in the 2nd round for Lighty

RBuck's picture

Yes and thank you. Maybe part of the site banner should say " No preachin', No Politickin' No Peddlin'. 

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Buckeye in Athens's picture

And with that, I'll retire my TR pic. 

The Vest-er's picture

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

The Vest-er's picture

And WHIGS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

Nappy's picture

As I was driving in to work this morning I heard on Mike and Mike some more piling on. As they were coming back from commercial the annoying voice-over guy said that OSU Compliance had called off the investigation into the used car purchases for the sole purpose to keep from uncovering more violations. Normally I don't get worked up over this type of stuff but this PISSED me off. It's one thing to report rumors of potential violations, but it's a completely different beast when you imply that a school is basically turning a blind eye to potential violations. Especially in light of the UNC NOA that was just released. Not only that but 2 separate investigations found NO WRONG DOING! It's official, I'm boycotting the WWL in speculation stories.

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

Nappy --- I know what you mean .... yesterday I went to S.I. . com

and the headline was "Ohio State drops review of player car purchases" ... misleading headline --- implying that OSU just dropped it on their own...the headline should have been more similar to ESPN's, (surprisingly), about the Ohio BMV finding nothing wrong

the media does subtle things like that, which a lot of people dont notice, the uniformed football fan who's just glancing headlines may get the wrong idea

Denny's picture

Listening to talk radio was your first mistake. 

Taquitos.

Nappy's picture

Touche

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

but I bet taking that d-bag George Dohrmann for his word would probably be the smart thing to do ... take him for every word he writes as the truth

Denny's picture

I'd provide you a link so you could read up about cognitive ability, but reading an article about cognition without actually thinking is about as helpful as buying a pair of shoes to run a marathon and then never training. 

Taquitos.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

Denny ---- shut up already...youre not a comedian...youre not funny...keep up the OSU/Tressel-bashing --- you come off as a fool on a pro-Ohio State site ... and you're "attack the messenger" and deride the messegner tactic is very transparent --- Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals --- Im sure it's on your bookshelf

Irricoir's picture

True statement at the beginning. It won't end and all you will do is fuel another response TOS. I don't agree with all of your statements but you are fighting a battle that will drag on and much like the media you will get piled on. I suggest a little more temperament and less political talk. Denny doesn't come off as a fool, a jester maybe, but he is very intelligent. When I think of Denny MAtt and William (And a few others) urging each other on it reminds me of Scut and Grover..


 

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

thanks...agreed -- they remind me of 11 year-olds

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

it's ok to disagree with people without resorting to calling people "11 year olds" or "spineless" etc. This is only the internet.

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btalbert25's picture

Irricoir, you and I have had some disagreements, but it's always been respectful.  I know the sarcastic tone of Denny aggrivates you, but at the same time, he's never told you to shut up, leave the site, accused you of being anti-OSU or anything else.  This new guy in 2 days has pissed off more people than Denny and Matt combined the last 6 months. 

I said it yesterday and I'll say it again.  We can disagree and still remain respectful.  Quit the name calling and bashing of others.  No one here has said they agree with everything Dohrman said.  No one here has said everything ESPN has come out with is correct.

The only think anyone has said, is that there is no conspiracy by SI and ESPN to overthrow Ohio State.  You may not like the tone of some guys, but you can either not address their responses, or be a smart ass back, and not call people names and tell them to go somewhere else.

I never thought I'd see a day where I'd rather be dealing with Bamamatt and all the K-state guys who were trolling on here, but man compared to this guy, they aren't so bad.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

this look likes somebody telling me to "shut up" hmmm":

 

JakeBuckeye on 21 June 2011 - 7:23pm # Shut up. Please.

 

furthermore, it is merely your OPINION that SI or ESPN has no agenda, not some unanimous conclusion like you want it sound like.

I like how you insert the word "consipiracy" in there, too ... no conspiracy ... it's a pretty reasonable common sense explanation that a lot of people agree with.

 

my advice to you, "btallbert25": grow a thicker skin when somebody else has a different opinion, you and Denny are quick to stand up for ESPN and SI, and quick with the snarky, smart-ass remarks, but maybe grow a thicker skin and quit whining.

btalbert25's picture

I routinely have a difference of opinion with people on this site.  Ask Irricoir.  The difference is, I can be respectful on a regular basis.  Something you haven't been at all.  You are right, it is just my opinion, but I haven't personally attacked you for yours.  I haven't called you a rat, spineless, or anything else for that matter.  Someone did tell you to shut up, after several posts where you were calling people names and offending half the website.

I believe it's you who needs the thicker skin.  I'm simply requesting that you keep things respectful, and not throw a fit, start calling people names, or demanding that people go elsewhere just because the have the audacity to not agree with you.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

disagree---Denny and William and BTAlbert25 have nothing but snarky remarks.

I didnt personally call anyone on here a "rat", get your facts straight, I categorized the left in general as "rats".

You can bitch and moan all you want  --- but it's people like Denny that get upset because I bring up a different viewpoint. God forbid I point out the obvious about Dohrmann.

And, you "btalbert" seem to be so bothered by the "new guy" making remarks.

Again, GET OVER IT! ... so not everyone on here agrees with you ... you, and Denny, and whoever are not always right. Youre not the smartest guy in the room. Im not saying I am, Im just offering different opinions, that are strong, but theyre not that offensive. Again, if they are --- get over it and grow a thicker skin.

Nappy's picture

Guys, its the internet.  Chillax.  Not everyone agrees with everyone.  Thats ok, but be an adult about it. I dont care if you've been reading this site for 3 days or 3 years, take the high road. Internet pissing contests just make all parties look like dumbasses.

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Matt's picture

Guys can we stop fighting?  I don't like fighting.  My parents used to fight, and then my step-dad tried to make out with me.

Nappy's picture

-1000

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Irricoir's picture

And your a moderator? Please...

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

William's picture

Irricoir, I respect you a lot on this site. Your posts are usually civil and well thought out but in this case Matt was just making a harmless joke, I don't think that necessitates anyone questioning him as a moderator.

BuckeyeSki's picture

+100

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Denny's picture

You're projecting. I never said that I'm upset.

Taquitos.

William's picture

Disagree- this blog usually never experiences such volatile comments except for when one of the PSU trolls (Scrappled, or M1EK try to rile us up) You on the other hand are insulting OSU fans,  your brethren and its rather disgusting. If you can't be more civil, leave. Its really that simple. I'm sure Bucknuts would more than welcome you.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

I'm insulting OSU fans? No way --- that is "Denny" with his smart-ass comments about Tressel; and, it is insult to immediately jump to the defense of ESPN and George Dorhmann of SI --- that is the insult.

So, anyone who does that --- is the one who is really insulting.

I will not leave, "William", sorry, get used to it --- I have strong opinions and I call it like it is. And, it is: ESPN and SI have partial agendas that are not sports-related. Agree with me or not, I'm free to say that. Grow a thicker skin. Don't cry and ask me to leave like a spoiled little brat. Instead get used to it....I have a different opinion than you.

William's picture

I have no problem with your opinion. I do however have a problem with your attitude towards others. Then again you probably are suffering from a Napoleon complex and feel the need to belittle others in order to make yourself feel well. Trying to compensate for something I presume?

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

see, that's exactly what I'm talking about ---- you trying to get away with the little snarky, smart-ass remarks, i.e. " Napleon complex", "compensate"....grow up! Wow!

Yea, you don't have a problem with my opinion --- BS --- that's why all you, and your like Denny, etc. have done nothing but b*tch and whine like a couple little toddlers. My attitude?

I would say the ones with the attitude are the ones making smart-ass comments like the ones you must made.

You're weak. Your attempts at humor are weaker. Get a life, William.

The only ones "belittling" are Denny and you with your (? COME ON MAN, THAT WASN'T NEEDED!)remarks. Pathetic.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

boom. /napoleon'd

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

really really really  mature...what are we in 4th, 5th grade? really impressive

 

ahhaa

Matt's picture

Cause homophobia is mature?

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

typical tactic of your kind: anyone that diasgrees with you MUST BE  a: homophobe,  or a racist

so predictable

Matt's picture

"The only ones "belittling" are Denny and you with your --- remarks. Pathetic."

Oh you meant gay in the happy way, my bad

Matt's picture

skinny comment

Matt's picture

skinnier comment

Scott K's picture

lol

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

it's not meant to be impressive.

 

however, I am assuming that you might be in 4th or 5th grade. out on summer vacation or some bull. stop telling other people to grow up and follow your own words. are you the pot or the kettle?

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Nappy's picture

TOSU banned from 11W since...

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

wow, some of you people are worse than a bunch of little girls....b*tching and whining and complaining....how pathetic

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

SouthBayBuckeye_Its

 

get a life.

Bucks's picture

I don't know if I have checked 11w once over the past 24hrs w/o some form of argument going on. Past that, it hardly seems worthwhile to complain about another person & their comments when you choose to one up them in your comments as well.

Past that, 11W staff has chimed in & said it was time to stop with this.

 

Can we talk Buckeyes?

 

 

Denny's picture

Yais. Peanut butter, flour, melted chocolate: Delicious thing, or most delicious thing?

Taquitos.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

thank you, "Bucks" ------ it's "Matt" and "SouthBay" and "William" piling on and trying to bully my comments. agitating too. "Denny" has (temporarily) stopped, but the aforementioned names --- man, like I said --- GET A LIFE! Matt, Southbay, William.... get over it --- and move along and get a life.

This is a football forum, not some forum for you to whine and moan about other people to no end

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

no one's trying to bully, you just won't drop how right you are and how everyone is a spinless liberal communist espn lover.

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

wow -- way to put words in my mouth....communist?

 

it's YOU who wont stop -- I was fine, then you must have been bored and decided to antagonize because youre really mature, and wont shut up .

get a life SouthBay

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

where does one purchase a life?

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Denny's picture

I know a guy. He's got hook ups in Eastern Europe somewhere.

Taquitos.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

in eastern europe, life purchases you

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Jason Priestas's picture

I have to agree with William. You need to settle down a bit. Usually people take a bit to get to know how commenting flows on a site and what's normal, etc. Perhaps you could stand to do the same.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

I am "settled down"

Im just stating my opinion. Its reasonable.

Nappy's picture

Your opinion is, your tone is not

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William's picture

Irricoir I appreciate the comparison to Scut and Grover. Greatest holiday movie ever right there.

Irricoir's picture

It is.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

biggy84's picture

Good article Alex! The Wismar article was very good too. I agree that the media coverage has been unprecedented. The media also seems to think it's their job to shape public perception instead of reporting. Tabloid sports is getting worse.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

While I can appreciate a half naked hottie as much as the next young blooded male-hetro-Buckeye, I'm slightly disappointed that it has shown up on this site.  I'm not trying to be an a$$hat but you have female readership on this site and we don't need to play into the male stereotypes out there.  I come to this site for the news, insight, commentary, and the opinions of Buckeye fans as well as 1 Michigan fan.  I would like to suggest that we refrain from posting half naked people on 11w.  Just my opinion and I don't mean to offend by my comments.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

agreed. full nudity it is!

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BuckeyeSki's picture

/Larry Flint'd

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Irricoir's picture

I see your point. I can tell you I certainly didn't mind looking though.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Pam's picture

I don't mind. But I prefer that my pic hadn't been photoshopped in a UNC bikini instead of a tOSU one.

NW Buckeye's picture

Pam, you are a treasure.  I always enjoy your comments. 

Pam's picture

Thank you kind sir

Nappy's picture

I always pegged you as a redhead. 

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Pam's picture

I was one back in the '80's

NW Buckeye's picture

Hey Pam, I know that you post on the Dispatch site and were quite critical of the original car story by Jill RipEmOff.  Have you had any more exchange with any of the reporters there?  I do know that Ken Gordon refused to call out any of his colleagues for shoddy journalism.  The latest story pretty much proves they were full of hot air.  And, they did not even bother to post it in the sports section like the original.  What is your take?

 

 

Pam's picture

When the story came out that Thad had indeed paid for his car, I wrote to all three and asked why they couldn't have waited until the BMV info had come back. One of them did respond saying they didnt' know how long it would take, so they went with it. I blasted him and did not hear back. I wrote to both the Sports Editor and the Editor and heard nothing. My take is neither wrote back because they would have a hard time defending the reporters but didn't want to diparage them either.  I don't know if you know that Ken is moving from sports to features where the reporters are from. Probably why he didn't call them out. 

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

Can we bust out the ban-hammer soon?

 

*BSD'd

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

ohh yeah, let's all tattle - tale and getting somebody banned...for what? the ones doing the whining are you...the little libs who cant take a differentiating opinion, and then say Im insulting ... meanwhile, you are the ones trying to insult --- get over yourself.

get over the comments and move along! wow

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

ohh yeah, let's all tattle - tale and getting somebody banned...for what?

 

for being a complete ------ of a troll.

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Denny's picture

Spent like 15 seconds trying to make a portmanteau out of 'Summers Eve' and 'Troll' but couldn't do it :(

Taquitos.

tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

oh no oh no --- somebody just did some name calling ---- "-------" and "trolll"

oh ok --- i see, its fair when you have a double standard apparently.

name call all you want, but Im not going to b*tch about it like you "southbay", youre a hypocrite.

 

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

merely based on my interactions with you.

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Jason Priestas's picture

Banned.

Not so much for the differences in opinion or the tone (though that was annoying), but for this after me warning people twice to stay away from politics in the last two days:

the little libs who cant take a differentiating opinion

There are no liberals or conservatives on this site. Just Buckeye fans.

 

Nappy's picture

Thank you , kind sir.  Maybe he can figure out how this site works and comes back capable of having an intelligent, politic free conversation.

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BuckeyeSki's picture

But you gotta admit, he used quotation marks LIKE A BOSS!!!

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Nappy's picture

I think you meant "LIKE A BOSS"

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

and "I think you meant "LIKE A BOSS""

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Jason Priestas's picture

Doubt it. Literally w/in minutes, there was a new account registration for the following username: 11Whiners.

William's picture

Wow and we were told to get a life.. Anyway thanks for banning them.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

:)

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Irricoir's picture

He was an anoying little cuss. I admit that. It isn't like he wasn't baited by the normals. Yes, he did not heed your warning about politics, but everyone telling him to take the high road could have done it themselves. Multiple folks felt the need to respond and fan the flames. Maybe they can't be banned based on that but they should take a hard look at themselves. People saying stupid sh1t, doesn't demand a response.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

William's picture

People could just not say stupid sh*t in the first place. People asked the troll to calm down and be more civil, only when he refused and insulted people did it get ugly.

Irricoir's picture

True William, read some of the comments posted in response to him. I feel like the people responding to him were equally trolling. Snarky comments to an obviously emotionally unstable guy is only going to provoke more unstable comments which are the same comments that everyone is groaning about. He was encouraged to make more of them by the responses he received from some of the regular posters here. Who is to blame? The idiot that can't filter his thoughts and post a responsible comment or the guy that knows this about him already, and pushes him to continue on. Both are equally to blame in my opinion. You among some others need to look at yourself and see where you may have been able to help the situation. 

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Nappy's picture

I never once bashed him or anyone else on this site and I did tell him to take the high road.  If you have an opinion, share it, but if you're acting like a douche be prepared to accept the consequences of acting like a douche.  It only takes one idiot to bring the regulars together.

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Irricoir's picture

What are "the consequences" you speak of? Who are you or any of us to administer those consequences? I think Jason did his job well and folks like him are responsible for monitoring these boards and taking care of folks that need it.

You guys could tell that he was an obvious distraction and very unstable but certain regulars chose to continue the pi$$ing match like kids on a bus, "Yes you are. No I'm not. Repeat x 1000". If only they would critique themselves as much as they did the other dude.

You are right about that Nappy, I can't remember ever feeling like you did anything that wronged another.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Nappy's picture

I think we all could use a good look in the mirror from time to time. The vast majority of us can carry on a disagreement while remaining civil.  This guy could not and got called out for it.  Consequences = banned. 

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btalbert25's picture

C'mon man, even when he was given polite suggestions to relax, he snapped back with, get a thicker skin, grow up, get a life, or you love and believe everything ESPN and SI say.  The guy was looking for arguments and was bound to get banned eventually.  A few people may have made some comments he didnt' like and got him to really go over the edge, but that's his problem. 

 

BuckeyeSki's picture

Hey, hey, hey, I only needed a picture, thank you very much

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Irricoir's picture

I agree with you. He had serious issues and felt the need to respond to every single post. it was clear to anyone with a high school reading/comprehension level (maybe less) that the dude has issues. Even I chimed in, and tried to get the guy to rethink the way he attempts to communicate. Hell, he even provoked me to defend someone that I don't like. Go back and read what I posted. I said things in a way as to not challenge the guy where many others were directly more confrontational. Just because you have little ramifications for what is said on the internet and almost zero accountability (unless speaking about a president) doesn't mean that anyone should suffer diarrhea of the mouth. He conceded but immediately went back to his ways with the newest troll post against him. Trolls, I love them. There were no trolls in the wild west. You ran your mouth, you had to back it up. There was no "freedom of speech", I can say what I want and you can't touch me mentality then. I know it isn't that day and age but it would be nice to revisit. Keyboard bravery is fricking retarded and so is being an e-thug tough guy. (Not implying that you are any of the above)

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Irricoir's picture

Anyhow, I wont contribute anymore to his "Legacy". He's gone and it's the right move. I won't contribute further to him remaining a specter around here.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Nappy's picture

Fantastic idea, I was just thinking the same.

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William's picture

Irricoir, you should definitely petition Merriam-Webster to add E-thug in their latest edition.

Denny's picture

"BeeTalbertTwentyFive" ---- no you "C'MON MAN"!!

Taquitos.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

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Irricoir's picture

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

BuckeyeSki's picture

Kill them with love (or fire)

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

"how bout a bumper sandwich, booger lips?"

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Irricoir's picture

Better yet.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

BuckeyeSki's picture

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tOSU_owns_scUM's picture

based on WHAT? your wishful thinking and constant complaining.

so much for free speech, not when you have a bunch of little b*tches on here, ("Matt", "Buckeyski", "William", "Southbay.."

NeARBuckeye's picture

Chill out, you're gonna have an aneurysm at this rate.

Trust me. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

he thinks i'm  a "b-star-ches"

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BuckeyeSki's picture

sounds like one of those "tylenol pills" you buy from "Persian guys" at a Miami "Dance Club"

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

the one that called you "dude bro"?

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GoBucks713's picture

hate to troll you southbay, but it called you a "b-asterisk-tch" HAHA. I wonder if that was actually that d-bag michigan fan froma few weeks ago.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

damn, you're right.

 

i'll pay your troll toll. no worries.

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GoBucks713's picture

I think the rape scene went well, Charlie.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

now would be a good time to showcase my sweet karate moves.

 

 

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Denny's picture

Prescient. 

Taquitos.

Bucks's picture

Glad that is over for now! I'm sure he'll be back. Still somewhat laughing at him thanking me after I as well let him know to relax. *Scratches head*

 

Wow, the UNC deal is a pretty insane read! Can we reschedule our hearing until the afternoon after theirs?

 

"the short version is that the school is being accused of academic fraud, giving student athletes preferential treatment including knowledge of impermissible benefits, unethical conduct, and failure by the institution to adequately monitor an individual triggering NCAA agent legislation, the social media activity of the team in 2010, and possible extra benefits to a student athlete triggered by agent legislation.

In addition, former assistant John Blake is being charged with providing false and misleading information to the NCAA, failure to cooperate with an NCAA investigation, marketing athletic abilities of athletes to an agent, and receiving outside income that he did not report to the university. On top of that, alumna Jennifer Wiley is being charged with refusing to provide information to the NCAA and providing multiple extra benefits to student athletes."

 

That better get the next 3 months coverage constantly w/SI Covers, Wetzel & Co, etc.

(Yes, I'm aware that won't be happening).

 

Nappy's picture

It's days like this that I love the internet

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Denny's picture

Gotta figure out a way to get paid to be the guy who points out typos in people's internet signatures. 

Taquitos.

Nappy's picture

There is, send me your account info and I'll be sure to deposit a hefty sum for pointing out "aRound"

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Matt's picture

At least TOSU distracted us from the depressing crater that is Ohio State 2012 recruiting.  I miss him already.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

side note: the number 1 on her bikini looks like... well .....a streak.

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GoBucks713's picture

They actually poop tar down there, from down there.

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btalbert25's picture

Thanks for the Banhammer. I like to come on this site while I'm working and make a comment between calls.  I enjoy everyone's POV on here and appreciate the fact that we can disagree and still remain civil.  Everyone has a style of their own, and I typically don't get bothered my much discussion on the internet.

That being said, I was going to take a few days off from 11W until that guy did or said something to get banned.  I knew it would happen sooner or later.  Glad it was sooner though, the discussions and writing on this site are top notch and I seriously look forward to checking in.  Somedays I'm on quite a bit, some days not at all, but I enjoy it.  This site really does have a good community, and I'm glad it's not like what you read on local news, newspaper, and national sports comment section. 

RoweTrain's picture

Not to bring my personal life into this but I just got shit-canned by my girl of 4 years today (naturally, she's lost her mind) and this is the first time all day I've been able to laugh (some beers have helped). But I thank every single one of you for that. Pam's photoshop comment started it off, Jason banning that guy kept it going and Nappy's new sig was classic. Thank you again. I love this site and am thankful to be apart of it. Go Bucks!!!

Buckeye in Athens's picture

Really sorry to hear that, Rowetrain. 

I completely agree - it's the community here that keeps me coming back and reading every comment. I would assume you probably just don't want to think about it too much, so here are some good links to distract you: 

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/2010-football-torrents/623355-2011-al...

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/2010-football-torrents/621409-ohio-st...

Pam's picture

I am glad I could make you laugh, but sorry to hear about the girl. Want me to talk to her?

Denny's picture

I read this as the feminine version of 'want me to drag him out of here, kick the shit out of him?' and I love it.

Taquitos.

BuckeyeChief's picture

You know, Ken Gordon did actually trade some e-mails with me a few years ago; amongst the funniest was the Tajh Boyd situation. I asked him what happened; he responded by saying "He texted me he was coming here. You ask him, you live near him!"

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BuckeyeChief's picture

Man, that sucks; my last month in review:

macho man dies

Tressel resigns

I didn't make Senior Chief

My car DIED

I have a staph infection

(Ultimate) Spider Man got killed today.

Did I ever tell you about my first week on my first ship?

I checked in Friday night; the Tribe lost game 7 on Saturday. I spent Monday-Friday puking. (Ever had dry heaves?). My at the time girl friend who was at Dennison DUMPED ME ON A PAY PHONE IN MY FIRST PORT.

One thing I've learned is that it can always get worse, so enjoy the bright spots while you can.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Buckeye in Athens's picture

I am so sad I missed this conversation today! Why have there been so many fights recently? I bet the locker room is more united than we are in the face of adversity. One potentially bad recruiting year and some penalties from the NCAA shouldn't make us turn on each other. 

Denny's picture

Probably has to do a lot with everybody not taking their 'normal amount of drugs'. It's too hot outside for the normal amount. We're all antsy.

Taquitos.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Yeah, I took a helluva day off the site to work away from the interwebs and to go buy comics. Wow is all I can say. Wow.

Does he get an award for being the 1st official ban?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Nappy's picture

Not only was he the first official ban, it only took him 2 days to do it.  Thats impressive.  Or sad.

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BuckeyeSki's picture

The troll force was strong with that one. He had enemies arguing in defense of one another, and literally stepped on the toes of every regular poster here

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btalbert25's picture

I can handle a troll, but the constant name calling and belittling was getting on my nerves.  The Southpark anger management/blind liberals pick was hilarious and he reminded me a lot of that guy.  I was laughing out loud on that one for sure.

JozyMozy's picture

>checks elevendub

>139 comments

>ON A SKULL SESSION

I just wanna say that I really admire the regular commenters and their ability to stay civil, even in the face of one of the more socially ignorant jackasses this side of youtube commenters. 

 

to idiots that just learned how to use the internet and pick a fucking fight with every contrasting opinion posted: just stop. go post comments on SportsNation, Gregg Doyel's "hate mail" pieces, SI columns, wherever- go to some other dim, remedial corner of the interwebs and puff your chest out there. You can find plenty of other commenters on the same level as you. lots of potential huckleberries. 

 

p.s.- I'LL FIGHT YOU

BuckeyeSki's picture

That might be platinum Denny

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