Pryor's Guardian: QB Will Stay at OSU
Willie Burns, Terrelle Pryor's godfather and legal guardian when he attended Jeannette high school is saying the quarterback will finish his career at Ohio State.
Willie Burns said he spoke with Pryor two days ago. While they did not discuss specifics about Pryor’s football future, Burns said Friday he doesn’t think the quarterback will leave for the NFL until after his senior season.
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The 63-year-old Burns says Pryor will only turn pro “if somebody pressures his butt bad.” Pryor lived with Burns while he was in high school.
This sounds nice and all, but we're still hearing Pryor will have a difficult time escaping a full season suspension based on mounting allegations.
UPDATE: Burns now disputes the AP report saying: "He's his own man. If he goes pro, it's on him. If he stays, it's on him."
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If OSU wants to really make a statement to the NCAA and media.... They should kick Pryor and all his cohorts off the team effectively immediately. That'll show everyone you're serious about cleaning up your reputation.
I think their punishment is sufficient unless we hear facts that state they have done other illegal activities. Right now those facts don't exist. The facts around Pryor are still unknown but there is an awful lot of smoke around that fire that is said not to exist.
The selling of memorabilia is not that big of an issue.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
OSU is fighting perception right now. And with the USC rejection of an appeal, the Buckeyes are staring down some nasty penalties to be level with USC.
I just think it's best to part ways with pyror and others that remotely taint the programs name. This year is obviously lost, so start the process of rebuilding for the future.
Stop reading mgoblog dude, and come back to reality with everyone else.
Let the punishment fit the crime - whatever that may turn out to be.
"It seemed like a good idea at the time."
You know why USC got nailed so bad? Pete Carol and Reggie Bush were gone before they could face the music. TP staying put may actually help Ohio State. Tressel lost his job over it. They can increase the suspension for the Tat5, then maybe some of the other sanctions won't be so bad. Maybe they lose 1 bowl. To make up for last year's bowl.
Time out everyone. So far, there has been a reasonable answer to everything Pryor has done (car wise) (not tatoo wise; but he's not alone there). And since the Tatoo penalties have already been assessed, its possible there will be no more penalties.
We have to be very careful and not confuse as fact, all the crap that the national media has been spewing about Tatgate. Look at this <cue dramatic music> huge SI Cover story. What new things did we learn? Factually? Nothing. The only allegations that were new would not stand up in court because A) It was all hearsay from 1 anonymous source or disgruntled former individual or B) waaaaaaay past the statute of limitations. Any allegation that occurred prior to the birth of current players is less than relevant and just an attempt to smear. And that only IF there is solid research and reporting on the issue; neither of which occurred in the SI piece.
WHat happened to the press not publishing something unless there was background from more than one source? Have the mainstream media been scooped so many times that they now make shit up like the tabloids in the can't beat'em join 'm theory? I was more than underwhelmed by the SI piece. I was angry that that drivel, which couldn't have gotten past the editor of my high school newspaper moderator/editor (OK it was St Ignatius, so we do have high standards) was allowed in a name publication like SI. I'm in the wrong business. If George Dohrmann walked into my local watering hole (Sullivan's in Lakewood-best Irish bar in Ohio), I would gladly serve the 30 days in jail if I could beat him bad enough to prevent him from ever being able to publish the kind of character assissination based on lies that he did this past week.
I'm done. My blood pressure is already 200/150. Have a great weekend everybody. The Bucks will be back. Its never as dark as its seems.
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The NCAA ruled that it was 5 games. You don't add to it.
If more comes from the NCAA investigation then you act, and TP is gone then.
vacuuming sucks
Who cares about the tat5? You should worry about your program. Pryor is a cancer, get rid of him and show the NCAA that progress is on it's way, maybe lessen the sanctions.
Really? Kick a player off the team (or out of school) in the hopes of reducing the overall sanctions? First of all, I hope that isn't how the NCAA operates. And if it is, I'd take the heavier sanctions in a heartbeat. You're talking about a player who was willing to return when he didn't have to and face his punishment, who still apparently intends to stick with his commitment to the team even though virtually no one would blame him if he didn't. That guy's a "cancer?" The only thing Pryor is a cancer to is Michigan's "defense."
Uh, everyone tore up the wolverines defense so that's not saying much. I didnt comment with any low blows since this situation has gone past the funny stage, so you can be courteous also.
T Peazy has consistently shown he has no regard for tradition, rules or anything that doesn't involve his ego(IE. Him commenting on quitting football since he wasn't ranked the best qb in the big 10). Wasn't he just caught driving another car with dealer plates in December?
He doenst belong at OSU, UM, Penn State or any other program with a shred of decency. He is the team leader and face of your football team and his antics should scrutinized, not given a pass since he's won 3 times vs Michigan.
He isn't given a pass. He's suspended for the first five games. If some allegations ring true, then I agree that he should get the boot. For now, he'll serve his punishment and regain his position.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
Here's the thing. Someone inside the family can call aunt Martha a fat ass, but YOU can't. It's like that.
Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.
I can be courteous, but I'm not going to. You are a cancer to this conversation.
It doesn't matter if Pryor has no regard for tradition, he has no obligation to care about things that matter to fans. Of course, we would all love him to, but really all he has to do is keep his grades up, play well and not get into trouble. Since he couldn't manage the third one, he's suspended for five games this fall, nearly half the season. I hardly call that a pass.
Blu,
TP is certainly not given a pass around here. We can't have two days go by that TP isn't called the worst thing to ever happen to OSU. Besides, it's a bit hard to make final judgments on the kid because the allegations against him involving cars, etc are just that (so far). Yeah, he's said some dumb stuff and he certainly has done some immature things, so we'll certainly scrutinize him. But it just hasn't been long enough and we don't know all of the details to make final judgments about anyone involving Tatgate. Finally, we 11W-ers can be civil and courteous with you TSUN-ers, just ask M Man.
Man, Goblu you are so right. Like I agree with everything that you have said about Pryor. He obviously doesn't care about his grades or winning games. I mean if he wants to quit football just because someone didn't rank him as the best QB, who needs him? It's not like he's super competitive and puts the team on his back. I bet his teammates hate him and his foot injury in the Sugar Bowl was just to get attention from the media about how much of a badass he is. If only the Buckeyes had upstanding young talent like Tate Forcier, whose grades would've have made him ineligible, so we never would've heard about him getting the unicorn jumping through a rainbow tattoo.
BTW, that was a sarcastic remark just in case you didn't notice. I just figured you liked to take everything you read at face value and without context or noticing sarcasm.
Oh and did you guys hear that Donald Trump is getting involved in the NCAA investigation into OSU too? He's claiming he found a birth certificate belonging to Greg Oden that says he's actually 50 and played basketball professionally back when the ABA was still around.
re: doesn't belong at any program with a shred of decency- too late for that :( but I can definitely see where you're coming from. unbelievably, I'm still somewhat on Terrelle's side. Just because he makes terrible, immature descisions off the field doesn't mean he's the antichrist. I'd personally love to see him finish the year strongly as the starting quarterback of THE Ohio State University.
Yes, and as it turns out GOBLU, his mother is paying $298/mo. for it, sir. So I think you owe TP and his mother, an apology.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Says the fan of a team who Pryor has killed the past three years. UM fans love bashing Pryor because they're still bitter he picked OSU, the better program.
Pryor winning vs Michigan is a blip in the historical line...
This rivalry is measured in centuries, not one decade.
Well if it's a blip, then it's a pretty big blip.
Troy Smith is the only other OSU QB who's beaten uM 3 times in a career.
So, already Pryor's in the record books. And if he keeps his eligibility and earns the right to play again this Novemeber, he could have the record all for himself.
The last bits, of course, are pure speculation at this point...
"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever. David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel
So what kind of allegations are you hearing about? Brutus hasn't been wrong yet and I would be (delightfully) surprised if he was somehow not 100% on his feelings after what he heard.
Amen, brother. I would love to be wrong and have you all call me a dick for posting false information instead of being a dick for posting bad news all the time. We'll see. I hope TP is able to beat this mostly because at this point, i just want to give everyone a big F-U, especially SI. I'll remain hopeful but there's a little too much smoke right now. Then again, Newton survived when it looked like the sky was falling around him so maybe Pryor will do the same. Sounds like there's some bad blood in the locker room right now, so if he manages to make it through this, Fickell will have his hands full just getting everyone to get along.
The mere thought that we just lost one of the greatest coaches in OSU history to a NCAA infractions and the qb at the center of those infractions somehow survives blows my mind...I hope to never see him in scarlet and grey again. If that means SI is proven right I don't care.
Well, when you put it in those terms, that's a hard point to argue against. But that means Posey, Adams, Thomas, and Boom should never wear the scarlet and grey again either. Based on the information we have right now, those guys are just as culpable as Pryor for the events leading up to Tressel deciding to cover things up.
Pryor especially because of the auto allegations. But regardless, rest-assured I'll never reflect years from now "oh man, if I could've only seen Boom, Poesy or Adams play one more time..." Nope, I'd rather have JT.
Yeah, I struggle with this too. I kind of feel that Pryor shouldn't play again, but can't but make the logical conclusion that that means the rest of them shouldn't either. I guess that's what I want. Of course, if we do that we lose ~90% of our production from last year. Whatever the official number is, it has to be around 119th in the division.
Would never call you that, you have always been straight forward and cool. I was surprised to see the positive twitter comments from two players.
GoBlu.....go blow it out the other end pal. Worry about your own train wreck of a program. Who says this year is lost? You best check yourself, OSU doesn't rebuild, they reload my friend.
Why do the penalties OSU faces have to be level with USC?? 2 different deals, 2 different outcomes. If the NCAA is impartial. Which, of coursre, we know they're not. Plus, the person this is really about is gone.
If no new allegations come out from now till Aug 12, the rulings better not be as harsh as USC.
Punishment should fit the crime. Selling stuff is petty.
"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever. David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel
Don't forget, selling stuff is not the crime. The crime is lying to the NCAA about knowledge of program violoations. Still different than USC, but only "better" in that hopefully we don't get judged to have the violation caused by a lack of institutional control.
right, and the guy caught lying is gone...
"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever. David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel
...and he didn't run away to the NFL, he resigned in shame. tOSU and USC are very different cases.
"I 've got an El Camino full of rampage"-- Sterling Archer, codename: Duchess
You guys are completely in denial about how serious OSU is facing in penalties... I'll come back when you get hit with 2 year bowl ban and 30 scholarship reductions.
Keep supporting players like Pryor, clarrett, Troy smith and others that take illegal benefits.
GOBLU, get lost you douche bag. Come back in November for your annual beat down.
I don't think GoBlu did anything to deserve some of the comments he's been recieving. He wasn't uncivil and he wasn't a troll, so who cares if he has a different opinion. Difference in opinions make the internet go round.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
+10000
don't piss and moan over some bro because of his username. Some of the comments GOBLU is getting are fucking hateful, ignorant, and completely unwarranted. Sheesh.
Agreed.
I apologize for my somewhat mean post to GoBlu. But, I still don't see the need to go to your rivals site to stir the pot.
30 scholarships and 2 year bowl ban? That's USC's penalty, precisely because they were hit with lack of institutional control. Unless other information comes out, there is no case to make for lack of institutional control. Tressel covered up violation(s) of players, and paid the price. Sorry pal, whether you think we're/i'm in denial or not, that's the truth. You have to PROVE it with a paper trail. Where's the proof? SI's article doesn't cut the mustard. Will OSU vacate wins because of Tressel playing ineligible players? Yes. Will there be a bowl ban this year? Probably. Will they lose scholarships. Perhaps. But again, to assume that the penalties will be the same just makes an ass out of u, not me. Now, will the NCAA come down hard on OSU to make them an example, even if the crimes are less? That's the worrying proposition...I'll say probably.
Yes I'll keep supporting MC, who ended up destroying his college career all on his, but NEVER faced NCAA sanctions. And even after almost completely destroying his life, he's back trying to rebuild it and live right. Would you still support him if he'd chosen uM? EVERYONE recruited him pal.
Yes, I'll support TS, who after taking that $500 handshake and almost destroying his college career, turned it around, became an outstanding teamate and citizen, and had one of the best seasons in CFB history. That's why he won the heisman, taking 86.7% of the first place votes, a record that has not been broken. And punked uM 3 times.
And yes, I'll keep supporting TP until further evidence warrants otherwise.
Why? Because these are young men. 18-23 year old dudes at the time. Young people make mistakes. They should be allowed to learn and grow from those mistakes. Are you perfect? Never made any mistakes in your life? If so, I'll just call you the blue kettle.
The bottom line is this. More than anything, and I think this was always a strength of Tressel coached teams and I hope it continues: THIS IS A FAMILY AND YOU DON'T TURN YOUR BACKS ON FAMILY.
It's funny. Those guys never played together, yet are a combined 7-0 vs your boys. Coincidence?
"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever. David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel
Let's also not forget that in EVERY CASE of questionable conduct, tOSU self-reported. Hardly at all the behavior of Mike Garrett and USC. Cases are so different, they make last years tOSU football team and the wolverweasel football team look like identical twins.
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The blame on Pryor is ridiculous.
He has been a money quarterback for OSU--perhaps the best ever. The number of times he has bailed out the team on 3rd and long and 4th and long (Iowa) is ridiculous. Everyone who is attacking him now loved him on all those plays.
He has also been a pretty upstanding citizen. We know every bad thing he has ever done or said because he is so closely scrutinized. And when you look at the list of his sins (Vick comment; feuding with Herby; selling memorabilia for tatoos) it is pretty darn minor. Many a good, respectable, upstanding person did a lot worse from 18-22. And all of this car stuff looks like it is nothing. His mom bought him the darn car on a monthly payment plan. And getting a loaner car from a dealer is common. The dealer was probably more generous with the policy because it was TP but it is pretty difficult to declare this an NCAA violation.
In addition, it is not in the interest of the program to attack Pryor. Why would the next big time recruit go to OSU when he knows the fan base might turn on him for the slighest mistake?
And it is not in the best interest of this season to attack Pryor. We need him back. We need to beat Michigan this year. Maybe Braxton Miller will be better than Pryor or maybe he is the next Zwick.
Let's pull together as a Buckeye family and show TP some love.
+1,000
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Imma wait & find out the true reason behind Tress leaving before I start givin all this love away.....but that's just me. I do think you have very, very, valid points, but I'm not sure we know the whole story. Maybe we never will....
Yeah, some people I ran into today started railing on the buckeyes, and I started to argue, but it was tough. In the end, we know that the players are guilty, tress is guilty, and we just don't know the full details of why he resigned, maybe it is because the program was corrupt. We just don't know.
Abe has to agree with most of what you have said in the post. Minor infractions and since when can a student athlete not have an opinion about something? Lots of other students/athletes find trouble the whole time in school. I also agree that TP is on the edge of being the most successful QB at OSU. In terms of big plays, clutch plays and wins he is easily near the top.
I hope TP does come back and plays a little with Miller at QB. Put them both on the field and then split Pryor out. College athletics is all about exposing a mismatch. Having Pryor on a LB all alone is the definition of mismatch.
Beware the sound of one hand clapping.....
I remember Dane Sanzenbacher bailing out TP with a few of his spectacular catches and falling on a fumble TP made in the Sugar Bowl, in the end zone. Just had to say that.
But, I agree Greenbriar: I think OSU Nation needs to unite. The Haters want OSU to fail, and I think recruits are going to be watching closely, to see how OSU fans, alumni and the team responds to adversity. Are we going to bicker and argue amongst one another? Which is what the Haters want, or will we unite?
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Mr. Burns may want Terrelle Pryor to remain enrolled at Ohio State. However, its not his call.
Based on known facts, Mr. Pryor and his fellow playmates in the Tatoogate Scandal should be expelled from the University immeediately. Simultanesouly, the Franklin County Prosecutor and Ohio Attorney General Michael Dewine and the Federal Bureau of Investigation should launch investigations as to whether or not there is any validity to allegations of a drugs for memorabilia linkage within the scandal. If such a linkage is confirmed, all involved parties should be indicted on the appropriate felony or misdemenor charges.
It is time to put the charade of a clean Varsity Footbal Program on hiatus and clean-up the mess caused by Messers. Tressel, Smith and Gee along with a horde of (edit: not needed) athletes who need to be severely punished for their misdeeds.
I hope the NCAA gives the OSU football program a Three Year Death Penalty!
Marty, you are a turd.
theDuke
Wow, another expert weighs in on the subject. Hey, clown, the FBI has already done their investigation. There is no one who could have kept these kids out of jail if the FBI had turned up anything drug related with them in their investigation. The result of the investigation related to the players was notice sent to OSU that Rife was in possession of personal items pawned for money or tats. Do you really think the feds would turn a blind eye to drug trades? Add to that the mandatory drug testing of the football team and you have a pretty big net that would snag virtually any violators. Seems like you just want to jump on the SI lynch wagon and spread your twisted thoughts.
Most pdobably you are a troll as your profile indicates you have been registered on this site for less than a day. Go spread your venom on another site where you can conceal your identity a little better. And, keep in mind that when you post such hate and disgust on the web someone is watching. No telling when they will come knocking on your door to question you about your racist comments.
Troll
Is this your way of getting off? trolling other teams boards? Thats the best you can do with your life? Make up proclamations based on half truths and then try to say thngs on the internet you would never say to our face?
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I agree with all the aggressive comments, but everytime I see this picture, I think that kid is kind of tough. He may not fight, but he might trap your moms in some small room and torture her ass.
You're a Hater, Marty. We know your motives.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Marty, where did you go? Your profile has been removed. What a troll......
I said it on that page about an "apology to whoever that guy is"... win 2 BCS games without Pryor and then maybe we can talk about something. He gets the grades in the classroom and does the thing we all have asked of him, WIN damnit! I'm with greenbriar here, lets show #2 why he joined the buckeye fam.
theDuke
Pryor was all academic big ten right? Which means he's smarter than Cam "I can't write my own paper so I'll just put my name on yours" Newton.
Guys I know most of us are Tressel fans, including myself, but this is hilarious:
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/90438-Tresselball.-IN-MS-PAINT.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
Damn dude, that is funny as shit!
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Awesome! Almost pissed myself at Flight of the Navigator
Fan of bacon since 1981
Over the past couple of days I have noticed a big shift in the overall opinion of TP. When Tressel resigned, a lot of fans were coming down hard on the suspended players for getting the program in this mess. Now, after reading a lot of comments on this post, it seems that people are coming to bat for TP.
I can see TP as Col Jessep...
"Son, we live in a college football world that has fields, and those fields have to be guarded by men with freakish athletic ability. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Joe Bauserman? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Tressel, and you curse the Tat5. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Tressel's resignation, while tragic, probably saved the university from further NCAA sanctions. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins football games. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that field, you need me on that field."