In All-Time Classic, Buckeyes Conquer SEC Woes

By Kyle Rowland on January 5, 2011 at 3:59a
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Finally.

The SEC hex on Ohio State is over. In an all-time classic, the Buckeyes defeated Arkansas, 31-26, in the Allstate Sugar Bowl. It is Ohio State’s first bowl victory over an SEC squad in 10 tries, a streak that stretches back 33 years.

Amazingly, each of the “Tat Five” played a key role in the victory. None was more surprising, though, than Solomon Thomas. His interception of a Ryan Mallett pass with 58 seconds left as the Razorbacks were on OSU’s doorstep sealed the victory.

After blocking a punt, Arkansas got the ball at the Ohio State 18-yard line. On second down, Mallett was pressured and rushed a throw. In stepped Thomas to swipe the ball, etching his name in Buckeye Lore.

As Ohio State ran out the clock, its fans serenaded the Razorbacks with a mock S-E-C! chant.

Terrelle Pryor was named the game’s Most Valuable Player after he accounted for 336 total yards (221 passing, 115 rushing). He had two touchdown passes and zero interceptions. The Ohio State offense rolled up 446 yards.

For much of the night Pryor made bigger plays than Mallett. The Michigan transfer had 277 yards through the air and two touchdowns. His one interception came at the most inopportune time, though. He was also the victim of numerous dropped passes and a relentless Buckeye defensive line that sacked him four times.

It looked like the game might turn into a blowout after Ohio State took a commanding 28-7 lead in the second quarter. They led 28-10 at the half after Arkansas made a field goal on the last play of the first half.

In front of a pro-Arkansas crowd in the Louisiana Superdome, the Buckeyes set the tone from the game’s outset. After Arkansas receiver Joe Adams dropped what would have been a touchdown on the first play of the game, the Buckeye defense clamped down and forced a three and out.

Once Ohio State got the ball, exciting things were bound to happen. Facing a third-and-long, Pryor found Corey Brown for a first down. A 16-yard run from Boom Herron got Ohio State into Arkansas territory before Pryor made things happen with his legs. Two plays later, Pryor dashed down the sideline for a 34-yard gain. Unfortunately, though, he fumbled the ball as he was being tackled by a gang of Arkansas defenders. The ball rolled into the end zone and appeared to be recovered by Arkansas before Dane Sanzenbacher dove on the ball for an Ohio State touchdown.

In a shocking move, Ohio State attempted an onside kick on the ensuing kickoff. Arkansas recovered, though, and Mallett took advantage of the short field. One play after an apparent 17-yard touchdown was called back, Mallet found Adams with a perfectly thrown ball in the corner of the end zone to knot the game at seven.

The Buckeyes would answer.

Again, facing a potential three-and-out, Pryor found the open receiver. This time it was Jake Stonburner for a big gainer. Pryor then found Sanzenbacher over the middle for 31 yards before Herron went back to work. He pounded out 11 yards on the next play and went nine yards untouched into the end zone after that. Barely halfway into the first quarter, the Buckeyes led 14-7.

After trading punts, Arkansas drove into Ohio State territory where they faced a fourth-and-one from the 30-yard line. Bobby Petrino, being a riverboat gambler, opted to go for it instead of kicking a 47-yard field goal. He also decided to throw a pass instead of using running back Knile Davis. It backfired as Nathan Williams batted down a pass to give the Buckeyes possession.

Ohio State would make them pay.

Pryor found Reid Fragel open for a 42-yard gain on a beautifully designed play. From there, Boom got the Buckeyes inside the red zone. An acrobatic catch by, whom else, Sanzenbacher gave the Buckeyes a two touchdown lead.

Ohio State had a chance to extend its lead to 17 points on its next possession after driving into Arkansas territory, but Devin Barclay was wide left on a 50-yard field goal try.

The Buckeye defense again put the hammer down on Mallett, sacking him twice and allowing the offense to get an opportunity to put more points on the board before the half.

Score they did. Pryor found DeVier Posey open in the end zone on a perfectly thrown 43-yard bomb. The touchdown put the Buckeyes in front 28-7. It looked like they would run away with things, but Arkansas put together an 83-yard drive that culminated with a field goal on the last play of the half to cut the margin to 28-10.  

The Razorbacks would use that drive to give them momentum into halftime. They would keep that momentum for much of the second half.

The two teams traded field goals to begin the half. Trailing 31-13, Mallett picked apart the OSU secondary to get Arkansas back in the ballgame. After a successful two-pint conversion, the Razorbacks trailed by just 10 points.

Things were still looking good for the Buckeyes until Arkansas pinned them back to their own four-yard line on a punt. On the first play, Herron dashed out to the two-yard line before he was met by a group of fired up Razorbacks. They shoved him back into the end zone before he tried to break lose. Unfortunately he was corralled for a safety, making it a one-possession game.

Arkansas would add on a field goal after failing to sustain a drive off the free kick.

Leading 31-26, Ohio State punted from deep in its own territory. The Razorbacks sent the house and blocked the punt.

Just when Buckeye Nation cringed at the thought of an epic collapse, Thomas became the unlikeliest of heroes.

The win validates a season that as recently as 10 days ago was called a failure in some circles. Ohio State ends the year with a 12-1 record and Top 5 national ranking. They also beat Michigan for the seventh consecutive season and won their sixth straight Big Ten title.

With the offseason come all the questions surrounding the suspended players. Will any of them go pro? Does it doom any national title hopes the team might have?

Spring practice will be one of the most exciting in recent memory.

For now, though, Buckeye Nation should sit back and enjoy a victory that is over three decades in the making. 

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Buckeye_Mafia's picture

Such awesome-ness right now.  I refuse to go to bed.  And as always, great work throughout the season eleven-dub! 

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SonOfBuckeye's picture

And as always, great work throughout the season eleven-dub!

Seconded.  Thanks, guys.

painterlad's picture

Andy "SEC" Staples is already whinning. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/01/05/sugar.bowl.ohiostate.arkansas/index.html?eref=sihp

Hey Andy, if those grits are so bitter, try washing them down with some good Midwestern beer instead of your usual moonshine.

Go Bucks!!!!!!!!! Wow, four hours of sleep never felt so good.

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craigfling's picture

Yea that is pretty much a d-bag sour-grits article. Whether he's right or wrong though, he's probably correct about the perception and what everyone will say. But who cares - we won.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

F$%& perception.  At the end of the day, it's about W's and L's.  How many teams have lost games due to flu bugs, a rash of injuries, suspensions taking talent off the field?  How many of these games are recorded with an asterisk?

"Sure Kansas State ended up losing the contest but it must be remembered that half their starting D-line was in the hospital taking IV's"

How many?   0.

If they had been suspend there would have been a few days of the talking heads patting Tress on the back and then years of 0-10 vs. the SEC!  0-10!!!!  Not 0-10* (* Ohio State courageously went above and beyond NCAA sanctions and did not allow the "Tat5" to play, creating a competitive imbalance that the Razorbacks took advantage.)

Also, it would have sent the signal to recruits saying, "Come to Ohio State, where you can look forward to extra punishments!"  Think other schools wouldn't have run that line?

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Poe McKnoe's picture

Sounds like he wrote the article before the game and inserted information as the game went along.  Win or lose, he had an article written.

RedQueenRace's picture

I should have read further before responding.

PALM BEACH BUCKEYE's picture

You know what....   they can all bite me.  Even Mark May had to give the Buckeyes props after the game and all the haters can suck it!

fadeproof's picture

Such a bullshit article.....and it's on the SI.com front page too.  Let the kids enjoy their victory, my goodness.  What a bitch.

matti's picture

efff staples people are forgetting one thing in the story. how many times has this happened and esss eee cccceee teams dont report anything like this tOSU offers full disclosure .

RedQueenRace's picture

I figured that article was largely written before the game was even played.

buckeyedude's picture

So Andy says that "Ohio State learned if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Well, does that mean that Cam Newton is going to sit out a few games for his father actively pimping him out to the highest bidder?

 
 

oribiasi's picture

Damn I'm tired today, got to work at 6:00 AM but it feels terrific in Cleveland, even with the 25 F. temperatures.  GO BUCKS!

jack's picture

Loved the outcome, but that was too f*cking stressful for me.

 

Go Bucks!!!

browniebuck's picture

+1. I think I was more pissed off than happy by the end of the game.  Classic Tresselball in the second half.

nickma71's picture

He almost coached his way to a loss. That is a fact. And I still wouldn't trade him for a different coach. He gets it. It is all on him, and it isn't about him.

btalbert25's picture

The safety call changed everything though, you take those 5 points off the board and it's a 2 score difference, not to mention the game could've basically been run out with a long drive.  A bad call changed it all.

BED's picture

That safety was legit.  Herron should've went down on the first tackle.  Then it's forward progress, since he shed it and was tackled by another player, safety.

Far worse IMO was the missed chop block against Heyward on AR's last TD.  That should've been called back and made 3rd and long, not a TD.  Horrible officiating.

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nickma71's picture

Heyward was held all night long. Then that idiot Todd Blackledge is crying about how OSU was getting away with some calls like interference when Arkansas pulled OSU receivers down with frequency when beat.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Wrong. With that interpretation, a defensive player can hold up a RB, push him back 2 yards into the EZ, then let go, and let another player tackle the RB for a safety.

The nice explanation for that bad call: the refs were too cute for their own good on that call.

The not nice explanation: the refs were necks . . .    

JT's picture

+1

Who coaches our special teams?  That punt was a painful moment last night - felt like being a Browns fan until the D made the pic...

tampa buckeye's picture

That safety call made it a much closer game.  

Nik's picture

yeah, but i think it was the right call.  He got loose, and there hadn't been a whistle before that.  I do think they should have called it forward progress before he even got to that point, but can't really argue that one, as it's pretty subjective

The_Lurker's picture

The defender lost hold of  Herron when he fell, which is the only reason Herron was loose and he was swarmed before moving forward, though he had one lateral step. The whistel already should have blown while he was being pushed backward into the end zone. If this is allowed, then everyone who pushes someone into th end zone should just let go and let their teammates tackle the ball carrier.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

+100

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

SilverBullets's picture

This is exactly what I thought and the point that Blackledge missed when explaining it.

What's to stop every defender to push backs 5 yards into the end zone, let go, and then tackle for the safety?

RoweTrain's picture

I agree with that last statement.  Just because Boom was stronger than that fake Maualuga, Arkansas gets a free safety.  The ref on the opposite side of the field was spotting the ball at the two as Boom kept getting pushed back but of course didnt have the nuts to speak up.

The_Lurker's picture

And did you notice how on the next kickoff the Hogs tried to push Jordan Hall 15 yards backward into the end zone? Hey, why not? It worked once.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

oops. I repeated this point (above) before seeing you'd already made it.

tampa buckeye's picture

The line judge on the far end had it marked at the two yard line watch the reply.

Nik's picture

I hate to nitpick, but that pass on 4th and 1 was actually batted down by big Cam Heyward if I'm not mistaken.  He might hunt you down if you say otherwise

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

You have no idea how much easier our team has made my life in Fayetteville, Arkansas for the next year.    Now I get to behave graciously in victory instead of the boorish taunting I would have recieved in defeat.

It was also nice that the Razorbacks basketball team lost to Texas 67-37 last night.

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Irricoir's picture

I'm gettign a new tag for my vehicle. I'm thinking I'm going to put something on it in rememberence of this victory and drive around Alabama with it. Any suggestions?

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Buckeye Scottie's picture

I know it won't fit, but maybe a bumper sticker, in response to all the Mallet crushing Buckeyes signs that ESECPN constantly panned to:

My BuckNuts just broke your Mallet

buckeyedude's picture

How about "FU SEC"? And I agree Scottie: How many friggin times did they show the "mallett" crushing a nut? Sick.

 
 

yrro's picture

All I can say right now is f*** bourbon street and f*** hurricanes. Never felt so sick after drinking before, and the shuttle to the airport leaves in 30 minutes. Ar least it's a victory hangover. Can't imagine combining this feeling with losing. Go bucks!

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Sounds like you picked up some of those Razorback social skills.  Be gracious.  Come home.  Go Bucks!

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SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

How about Mr. Dane Sanzenbacher? What a ball player that kid is, and I loved how he embraced the moment in the post-game wrapup, yet he did so with such class and humility. Ohio State is going to miss him, on and off the field. Also, I know this particular field is a little crowded (maybe not with Austin Collie's injuries), but looking to the future, could you imagine if he were drafted by the Colts? That's a harmonious marriage right there.

The_Lurker's picture

I'm a zombie today, after getting little sleep and drinking a whole bottle of champagne after the game. Self-inflicted wounds, but still feeling great overall. It's just never easy, is it? That game gave us a chance to really put a stompin on the Hogs and showing how good we can be. I'm not surprised Tressel put away his toys after the half, and bad field position contributed to some of the play calling, but I am just so damned impressed with our defense.

Injuries? No problem. Guys stepped up. Tired from being on the field the whole second half? Not an issue. Cam Heyward played with the heart of a champion, despite being cheap-shotted and held a few times. Ross Homan's blitz forced Mallett to provide Solomon Thomas' most significant contibution as a Buckeye (so far). Damn. Feels great to be a Buckeye this morning.

Kurt's picture

Is no one else frustrated with the offense once again!?  The play-calling was an absolute shit-show.  The defense, despite playing with so much youth, bailed out the offense AGAIN. 

The_Lurker's picture

A little frustrated, but some of it was dictated by lousy second-half field position. Their punt team was absolutely killing us. Some of it was just Tress being Tress and putting away his toys. As someone stated earlier, it's the best and worst of Tresselball in one game. Bottom line...scoreboard.

Kurt's picture

Ironically the playcalls made as a result of field-position were the worst. 

Did anyone notice the long pass play to Fragel?!  Or the drive that ended (abrutly) in a field goal?  The pass to Fragel was brilliant, faked the zone-read handoff, the linebackers bit hard on the run as Fragel ran right behind them and was wide open.  On the the fg drive Tress suddenly decides to go with read-option looks.  The offense was a hot-knife through butter until we get to the 30 and he decides to have TP just drop straight back without and play-action.  Yep, drive sputtered.  And that was the end of any designed running for TP...oh well, except for that beautiful qb plunge. 

Listen, we need an offensive coordinator badly.  If Fickell leaves we're screwed.

buckeye33's picture

You saw the momentum changing like the field was tilted. The play calling was truly questionable and why Herron and not Pryor on 4th and inches.  As they were getting ready to punt I was reliving the Giants/Eagles game of a few weeks ago. But in the end I guess we are all happy today.............BUT WHY CAN'T THEY EVER MAKE IT EASY !!!!

Buckeye Black's picture

Giving it to Herron was the right call, he had the first down easily, if not for the fumble.  Tressel ball makes games exciting, and I for one had a ton of fun last night watching it at my Arkansas friend's house.  Go Bucks, 6-3 in BCS games, unreal.

The_Lurker's picture

Previous lost Boom Herron fumbles before last night - 0.

(Per Rob Oller.)

I was cheering for the made first down before I realized he'd lost the ball.

Kurt's picture

Was giving it to Herron on the 1 yard line the right call too (ended in a safety - refs aside)?  Wasn't the play right before the fumble also a give to Herron up the middle?  Whether it worked or not, it's a ridiculous call when Arkansas and everyone watching knows it's coming.  Sure, you'll argue execution! I don't give a shit, the odds of executing something the defense knows is coming are immediately reduced, good playcallers send in plays that defenses don't see coming, thus reducing the necessity of perfect execution.

nickma71's picture

A hand off is the right call. A play where linemen pull leaving huge gaps is not.

Kurt's picture

When Arkansas has 10 guys within 4 yards of the line of scrimmage... unbeliveable.

btalbert25's picture

Like Arkansas deciding to pass on 4th and 1 with a 6'7" QB?  That wound up working well for them, especially when everyone knew a run was coming and likely would've worked.

Dean's picture

Hard to criticize that play-call.  That's standard strategy on your own goal-line, to the extent that to call anything else would have people flipping out regardless of the outcome.  Yeah, it ended up with a safety, but the odds of a safety are much higher with other plays (outside runs or passes, anything involving time-consuming trickery).

theDuke's picture

Any time I see a tag line like "moral superiority" I stop reading.  And also, great work there TP,  but my MVP goes to Hayward.  Dood is gonna get PAID!

theDuke

BuckeyeSaab's picture

I agree, Hayward was playing lights out.  And all that pressure was getting to Mallet.  You could tell in his throwing motion when he was hurried the ball was heading into the dirt.

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KenK's picture

photo of the year. no. question.

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buckeyedude's picture

Cam's cool, and I love the dude(in a brotherly way), but this is still my favorite pic.Ohio State wide receiver Dane Sanzenbacher (12) dives on a fumble in the end zone for a touchdown against Arkansas during the Sugar Bowl NCAA college football game at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans, Tuesday, Jan. 4, 2011.

 
 

Kyle's picture

There are no moral victories.  F*ck the talking heads at ESPN and the national punditry who heap mountains of praise on the SEC and one Cam Newton yet turn a blind eye to their numerous "youthful transgressions and ethical lapses."  Eat a dick.  Or two.

 

Punching Mark May is worth going to jail for.

 

I have a total man crush on Dane Sanzenbacher.  My fiancee thought I was going the gay way last night as I gushed over his awesomeness.  No homo.

 

Great win.  Thanks to this great senior class who got OSU back into the W column in bowl games with huge wins in the Rose and Sugar Bowls. 

The_Lurker's picture

So all Tressel needs now is an Orange Bowl win to hit for the bowl cycle. Go Tress!

Buckeye Black's picture

And the BCS National Championship....

Ethan's picture

Did you forget about that win in Glendale in 2003? He's already got a BCS National Championship

The_Lurker's picture

True... Tress got a 2-for-1 special in that game.

tomcollins's picture

There was no game in Glendale in 2003 [/nit].  Nor was the game we won in 2003 a National Championship Game.  It was the Fiesta Bowl/National Championship game.

nickma71's picture

That is right. There was no national championship game. The BCS rotated who gets to host #1 and #2. You think ESPN will talk about the 6 or possible 7 SEC bowl losses this year? I really like Texas A&M to handle the mad hatter, and I like Oregon a lot more now having watched Aurburn and Arkansan play this year.

btalbert25's picture

After watching Stanford the other night, and knowing how Oregon handled them, perhaps the Ducks are much better than I first thought.  I really think they have a shot. 

Ethan's picture

I never said it was the NCG. And as for Glendale vs. Tempe, to-may-to, to-mah-to. They won the Fiesta Bowl, and as a result the BCS National Championship. He doesn't need to win another one to complete the BCS bowl "Grand Slam +1" as far as I'm concerned. 

The_Lurker's picture

+1.

Tress has the ring, plus the Sugar, Rose and Fiesta. Orange gives him the cycle in my book.

Buckeye Black's picture

I was just saying he won't have an Orange Bowl ring if they play there and it is for the title. Technically it isn't the Orange bowl, regardless his accomplishments speak for themselves.

The_Lurker's picture

Right, but if it's for the title it isn't the Orange Bowl. It's possible Tress could get an at-large invite there in the future. I'd rather be in the NCG again though, of course.

PALM BEACH BUCKEYE's picture

Tress Won another Fiesta Vs Kansas State after the 2003 Season.

741's picture

Fiesta Bowl victory vs. Notre Dame (2005) as well. Last Fiesta Bowl in the superior Sun Devil Stadium venue... Santonio's last game as a Buckeye... Hawk beating down his future bro-in-law... The silly half OSU, half ND jersey...

jfunk's picture

That half-jersey was a crime against humanity.

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buckeyedude's picture

I know what you mean. Here in Toledo, there are so many UM fans that some businesses sell flags, that have "A house divided," across the top, with one half blue and the M on one side, and one half Scarlet with the "O" on the other half. Nauseating.

Just pick a frickin' team already.

 
 

gravey's picture

That team, in my mind, was the best Tress has had.  It's a shame they dropped those two early ones without T. Smith at QB.  That D and that O was insane by the end of the season.  I think they would have beaten Vince Young/USC either one handily at the end of that season.  It sure was sweet to see them beat the snot out of a pretty good ND team.

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Arkansas is a great team and played a great game.  They just had the misfortune of playing the only good football team in the B1G.  I hope Nebraska can elevate the level of competition in this league.

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RedQueenRace's picture

Both Wisky and Iowa were good teams.

btalbert25's picture

Fragel is a beast.  I know Stoneburner gets all the love, but damn Fragel is a great TE. 

Buckeye in Athens's picture

Yeah definitely, his catch and run made him look like a future star. I hope we begin the season in double tight end sets, because we need those two play makers on the field. Stone burner may be known for his receiving abilities, but Fragel also hasn't missed a pass that's come his way.

Kurt's picture

It wasn't anything to do with double tight end sets... it was play-action, baiting linebackers with Pryor's threat to run...

Buckeye in Athens's picture

Yeah, I know the play last night wasn't in a two tight set, but I'm saying next year I hope we run more of them just because we have two excellent tight ends who deserve playing time.

tomcollins's picture

It was awesome because the fake had Pryor naturally looking right at the TE, which totally had the LB convinced that TE was doing nothing.

Kurt's picture

Yea, I know that shit is genius.  Watch other offensive coordinators with a clue.  And so why doesn't Tress incoporate this shit into our offense!?  When we ran zone-read looks, whether using it to run (they stuffed 1 run) or throw it worked wonders. 

buckeyedude's picture

I just love the fact that Ohio State stole another kid out of That State Up North. All 6'8" of him!

 
 

BuckeyeSki's picture

Mark May looked like he wanted to kill himself when he was surrounded by Buckeyes in the after-game interview. I loved EVERY MINUTE of it!

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE's picture

Someone should have shoved him off his chair!  That would have been classic.

Joe Beale's picture

I loved the fact that Mark May got booed when he tried to ask the captains a question in the post-game interview last night.  Classic!

Denny's picture

The Fragel quick-pass is now in my favorite plays cache. Shocking when they called it, and it couldn't have been called at a better time.

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DaveCHS's picture

I'll bet that this Sugar Bowl win will be vacated eventually. The NCAA did it's job to protect the good ole' boys that run the Sugar Bowl. They got the game and money and superstars that they wanted.  Pryor and the boys will all go pro.  Then the NCAA will go back and "discover" new violations (that everyone already knew about before the game) by Pryor and company and declare that they really were ineligible for the game after all, so the win doesn't really count.  Bet it happens before the next bowl game.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if we get suspended from bowls for a couple years as punishment.  Then the NCAA can continue the charade that it's all about protecting the student athlete and maintaining the integrity of the college football system.

O-H Kee Pa's picture

Really? This is all you could think of saying the morning after?

 

The difference between us and USC? We don't lack institutional control. Some dumb college kids fucked up. It happens from time to time. All I know is that I'm going to be rocking my Sugar Bowl champs hat real soon, and there will be ZERO moral dilemma.

buckeyedude's picture

Did Reggie Bush or Cam Newton(or his dad) ever apologize? Just curious.

 
 

btalbert25's picture

Can the NCAA vacate a BCS victory?  I thought the BCS was a different entity and they would hve to vacate it.

O-H Kee Pa's picture

In terms of the NCAA record books it can. Whether or not the individual bowl governing bodies go along with it is a different story.

btalbert25's picture

Gotchya.... I think it's irrelevant anyway, it's not getting vacated.

O-H Kee Pa's picture

Right. In no way are we even close to getting any sort of hammer dropped on us by the NCAA.

SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

Also, the NCAA did not find and report the violations, Ohio State University did. And even so, this wasn't a case involving drugs or agents or boosters. Just like AJ Green, the guys will serve their due suspensions and move forward

PALM BEACH BUCKEYE's picture

Too much Crack last night???

btalbert25's picture

So DickRod is fired again.  I wonder how many times he's cried the last 2 days.

ERIC OSU's picture

Rich rod fired "again" according to Joe schad.

dmurder's picture

Bring on the recruits that are playing in the under armor game today.

That victory should help us snag Grant, Vaughters, Gorman, and maybe Clowney!

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

bcWEcouldn'tGOfor3's picture

1.) Mark May surrounded by Buckeyes and being forced to acknowledge their accomplishments should be turned into a "Priceless" commercial.

2.) If The SEC loses their next two games, they will have a worse bowl percentage than the Big 10 and no one will talk about it.

3.) Anyone notice how the suspended players are now skirting the issue about returning?  I think Tressel made the right move by having them promise they would return...because if they don't, it makes them look all that more d-bagish for going back on their word. Nice move Vest.

4.) If the suspended players come back and the buckeyes get through their first 5 games undefeated, that may be the best thing to happen to them. Pryor, Posey, Adams, and Boom only playing a 9-game (potentially) season!  Could work in our favor.

O-H Kee Pa's picture

I know people are making a big deal out of Pryor simply saying "Alright" in response to Holly Rowe's "Will we see you next year?" But, Pryor clearly said later that he has a lot to learn on and off the field and that he's not ready for the NFL. Boom and Posey are also confirmed as coming back. I'm not worried about any of them. It seems as if Brewster is also leaning towards coming back.

It's also ridiculous how people are STILL saying that we prevented the Big Ten from going 0-6 this bowl season.

Ethan's picture

I think Pryor thought she said "We'll see you next year", rather than "Will we see you next year". Granted, he has a penchant for saying dumb things ("everybody kills people..."), but given the obvious pain he was in, coupled with the noise of the Superdome and the rush of emotions he was surely feeling, and I think he just misheard her. 

Adams seemed the most non-committal about returning next season of everyone. I still think at least one of him and Boom goes pro. And quite honestly, if Boom leaving means none of our stable of RBs decides to transfer, I wouldn't be upset about it at all

BED's picture

Right.  It was super loud, and he was clearly in a lot of pain.  The "alright" to me seemed more like a Tressel-ized version of "f*ck of b*tch, my ankle hurts, stop talking to me."

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
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Dean's picture

I also saw somewhere (here? Yahoo?) that though Adams was hedging, Boom said he was coming back and he was going to make sure the others did, too.  Good move, Boom!

O-H Kee Pa's picture

Honestly, even though Adams played a fantastic game, I wouldn't mind starting to break in Hall and Norwell more.

Tommy's picture

We'll have the first 5 games to do that.

buckeye33's picture

Where was the naked bootleg with option to tight end.? Last play before the punt should have been Pryor !!!  Even the commentators called for the play.

Dean's picture

Pryor was hurt, doubt he could've done much, and, not knowing the extent of the injury (they didn't really look at it, they just wrapped it up and sent him back out), I'm certain Tressel didn't want to risk it, he just put Pryor back in to reduce the risk of a fumbled snap or handoff.

osujake9's picture

If the commentators were calling for it don't you think Arkansas coaches would be smart enough to see it coming? I thought running up the middle was smart because there were plenty of Ark players around the outside waiting for Pryor and everyone thought he'd be getting the ball.

Kurt's picture

Yea, even more reason for the bootleg because at that point TP had run for over 110 yards, they would've gone straight after him and he'd have been able to make another easy pass to the tight end. 

dmurder's picture

Doesn't matter if they know its coming, did you see how many people he made miss last night. lol...

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

Kurt's picture

On passing plays that break down where TP improvises.  I'm talking about called I-formation Dave play calls.  My life would be fine if I never saw Dave again!

Bucksfan's picture

Honestly, I do not look at them wrongly if they go back on their word.  I'm not sure it wasn't just a stunt by Tress and the players to save face in the public forum.  They won't look like d-bags to me if they bolt after saying they're coming back.  The NCAA is the d-bag.  It's America, these are poor kids...staying in college makes them no money right now.  The university would welcome them back as students at any time to complete their degrees anyway.

So, to the Tat6...THANK YOU FOR THIS WIN!  Couldn't have done it without you.  You have Sugar and Rose Bowl wins, 3 Big Ten titles, 3 wins over Michigan, and are 1-0 vs. the SEC.

YOU OWE ME NOTHING.

Dean's picture

Well said.  The only thing that really gets me exercised is when schools break the rules, upsetting the little bit of competitive balance the rules maintain.  These guys make way too much money for the schools for it to be reasonable to get really upset over them trying to boost their and/or their families' living standards a little bit.

 

I can't even be too annoyed at Cam Newton, though I do think the fact that his dad was asking anybody for money should cause Auburn to be investigated -- does anyone really believe that a parent who wants money for a commitment is going to let their kid go somewhere for free?  I don't think it means Auburn did pay, just that it ought to be seriously investigated.

Irricoir's picture

I don't agree with the rules or its findings but rules shouldn't be made to be broken and if a mans word isn't enough and he has no integrity, what has he? Can you trust him? Our world has really pushed so far beyond decent values it isn't funny. Joke on me all you want about being old fashioned or the moral police but when I say something to someone they know I am going to do exactly what I say. I am proud of that. My comment is in regards to what you said. I am not casting judgment on you or them but I personally, would be disappointed if they were not men of their word. Personal character is as important to me as physical accomplishments. They owe no one anything except Jim Tressel. As honorable as he appears I would be highly surprised to see them turn their backs on him after giving them their word. The media tried to portray Tressel's decision as dangling candy in front of the Juniors faces. I believe that JT didn't want them to leave, go pro, and face zero accountability. By letting them play, he was ensuring that they would return to take that punishment. That was an honorable decision but it is being portrayed by the haters as something evil. Shame on them. I also think it showed poor class for the espn crew to start asking Pryor about the infractions and returning for his senior year facing suspension not 20 minutes after they secured the victory. They spent two hours before the game talking about it. Interviewed him before the game and asked him about it. They should have been allowed to bask in victory instead of trying to bring them back down. There was another time and place for those questions. I have been Pryor's toughest critic on how he handles interviews and the press. He did it flawlessly last night. If he maintains that demeanor I will be pleased.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Another Jason's picture

I completely agree.  I think the deal was the best possible solution to the situation, and I would not want to be one of those guys sitting in an interview with an NFL team trying to explain why I broke my word to my coach and how that doesn't make me untrustworthy.  Character is a big deal in Roger Goodell's NFL and after Vick, Roethlisberger, and countless Jets incidents, teams are going to be extremely wary of taking a chance on someone who could so easily lie to a coach.

I wonder if ESPN will even mention it when they all come back?

Bucksfan's picture

I'm with you.  This topic isn't without controversy, and that stems from a range of opinions in both directions.  Most people think the NCAA rule is stupid.  Ok, then what's the problem in breaking a stupid rule?  I agree it's a rule and rules are to be followed, but rest assured that these kids ARE going to pay for their consequences in one way or another.  If they leave for the NFL, then they are giving up a senior season, regardless if it's half a senior season, and all their friends.  That's something they all wanted, but now maybe it's in their best interest to move on.  If they stay, they have to sit and hear about their suspension for the next year...then actually live out the suspension...all while they're not getting paid.

All I'm saying is that if they want to avoid all of that, I'm not going to feel they cheated Jim Tressel.  Jim Tressel makes $4 million a year (that we know of) to run what amounts to one of the best free NFL farm teams in the country.  The reason these kids can't go pro until their 21 is because the NCAA successfully lobbied for legislation that protects its right to field a lucrative amature football product.  That basically holds post-high school kids hostage if they want to play football in the NFL.  They HAVE to spend 3 years doing something, but it can't be playing professional football.

I realize honor is important.  But it's a dishonorable system in a huge way.  So what is honor, then?  How do you define it?  This scandal has a major fanbase finally talking about it intelligently, instead of judging other schools.  I love Ohio State, but I also see it for what it is - about as big-time college football as you have anywhere.  And it utilizes the talents of amature athletes like the rest of them.  I'm glad we have a coach like JT to teach these young men how to be adults.  That's certainly not required to run a winning team, but it is something to be proud of.

The_Lurker's picture

TP sounds like a man sticking to his word about coming back:

(From Cleveland Plain Dealer story)

"I don't think I'm really ready for the NFL," Pryor said. "I think I've got a lot of learning and better decision-making I have to make on and off the field.

"And I think even off the field, I think I need to grow up a little bit more and mature as well in that standpoint. So I just have a lot of growing up to do. And we'll take steps. I talked to Coach Tressel and we have a plan going down and I have to follow it exactly how he put it."

ToledoBuckeye's picture

I hope we see a little bit of of that Troy Smith maturation.

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn." - Woody Hayes
 

gwalther's picture

Wherever "jakebuckeye" is: i apologize for (most of) my sh*t talk on pryor. Dude just gave us a Sugar Bowl win over an SEC team, after a Rose Bowl over the Pac-ten champ. Also, his MVP speech was contained the most polished statements he's ever made (the apology). I still wish he'd keep his mouth shut a little bit more...but he's done more than enough on the field to earn my respect for his playing abilities.

 

Class of 2008

matti's picture

great game on to next year and the loss of the stupid spread punt formation that thing has to go! these are the buckeyes you would think we could line up regualr, block and be able to have two gunners go down the field at the snap and get to the returner.

btalbert25's picture

Tressel seems to really like Pryor, and that's enough for me to like him.  How many times in 9 years have you seen Tressel do a "vest bump" I think he's a pretty good judge of character, and you can always tell when a coach and player have an icy relationship, these 2 obviously don't.  I'll trust the guy who spends 5 or 6 days a week with him more so than people's perceptions based off of a few comments.

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RBuck's picture

Breaking news!

This just in: Generalisimo Ricardo Rodrigio is still fired.

(for you older guys and gals)

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

jfunk's picture

+100

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

bcWEcouldn'tGOfor3's picture

Has anyone seen any commentating by Herbie on the Buckeyes win?

He seemed to be reluctant to talk about the game during pre-game festivities.

Was that all stemming back from the Pryor vs Herbie smack talking?

 

Just wondering.

Irricoir's picture

I heard him pick the Buckeyes to win a close one and he actualy had some positive comments to say about Pryor pre-game. Maybe he is offering an olive branch.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

hangonskokie's picture

Yeah, TP & Co. made stupid decisions and I would not have had any right to complain had they been suspended for this game and we lost. But the NCAA made it's decision. Given a five game suspension next season, how could Jim Tressel in good conscience  override a penalty issued by his superiors and tell these guys that missing five games during their senior season isn't enough. Jim Tressel, if you haven't noticed, isn't a guy who likes to draw attention to himself, and although no one would've blamed him for sitting said players, he seems like the man who accepts the consiquences (heavy or light) imposed by his superiors without a word of discontent - after all, overriding the NCAA's decision would've been to step out on a limb and put himself in the spotlight no doubt earning him the personal accolaids of fans and media who wanted to see an example made - but, as we saw from last night, it would not have helped the team as a whole achieve its goals.     

Oh yeah, and to think that anyone in America besides Kirk Herbstreet would've given Ohio State any kind of credit for benching the five suspended players for the game is total BS. We would have had to sit through the entire offseason hearing it from SEC Fans, Razorback Fans, and everyone on ESPN that Ohio State blew the big one, again... with little a mention that we sat five playmakers for integrity's sake.

 

hangonskokie's picture

...And, as for Gold Pants, maybe they should start giving 'em out for wins like this, rather than for beating that MAC school up north. Frances Schmidt's famous phrase rings true now more than ever when applied the fabled mystique of the SEC... even Ryan "The Legend" Mallet puts his pants on one leg at a time.

Powers's picture

anyone just see jim rome? what a piece of sh*t. gives absolutly nooo credit. None to our defense making plays or pryor just how we tried to give it away and ark didnt make the plays to win it.

Colin's picture

Yeah I saw it, pretty much said we were trying our best to give them the game and that Arkansas lost only because that blocked punt was returned for a touchdown. No credit at all. I dont know what else to say about it but...what a douche.

Ethan's picture

Jim Rome has always been a huge tool. Anytime that guy is on TV, he makes himself seem like even more of a prick. Fortunately, there is youtube

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uczUKTwgqeY

ToledoBuckeye's picture

What did you guys think of Cam last night?  I thought it was by far his best game since last year's Penn State game.  I thought he was being chopped or held almost every play and they still couldn't stop him. 

I think he may have played his way back into the 1st round of the draft.

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn." - Woody Hayes
 

Colin's picture

I figured they would've given a defensive MVP or something because he would've won it automatically, absolutely amazing game.

I think he was still projected to go in the first round either way, just really late because of the drop off he had this year. But I think this game might have jumped him up to the middle of the round.

tampa buckeye's picture

Something lost in last nights game was the back ups on d got a lot of action.  At times looked bad but at times looked better then the starters.  Next year Moeller is back and Sabino will get his shot at linebacker.  I'm pumped for next year. 

On to bball season.

Colin's picture

Yeah, it was really mind boggling why I saw so many backups in at one time, and it wasn't even just the secondary. Defensive line, linebackers were all subbing in and out constantly.

Truth be told...I didn't like it at the time. Too many unproven players in at critical moments.

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