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Confessions to a DePriest

Would love to see these two team up in C-bus
Recruiting is an odd game. Expectations are defied, fan bases feel betrayed, and grown men's careers are often effected by the decisions of 17 and 18 year old kids. Critics make radical calls for coaches to be fired and hired based on recruiting results and legacies are made based on how many four or five star recruits a staff can bring in each and every year. All this recruiting talk brings us to a hot topic, the recruitment of Springfield linebacker, Trey DePriest. DePriest has narrowed down his college choices to the homestate Buckeyes and the defending national champions in Alabama, and will decide this coming Friday at 5PM. Common sense would seem to say recruiting is regional and DePriest would be Columbus-bound, but that's not neccessarily the case. Growing up as a Michigan fan, a feeling of love at first sight with Nick Saban (who can sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in a white dress), and a coach with some reportedly questionable intentions in Springfield assistant John Cupps has DePriest thinking about rolling with the Tide, a decision that would shatter the hearts of Ohioans everywhere who follow the Buckeyes and recruiting. It's not just DePriest's decision that would sting so bad. Losing the top linebacker in the state and possibly the country wouldn't hurt as much if the same thing didn't happen last recruiting season. The top linebacker and arguable top player in the 2010 recruiting class, Jordan Hicks of Lakota West, decided to spurn the Bucks in favor of the Texas Longhorns. Hicks, like DePriest, had a unique situation in which he did not grow up in Ohio, had ties to Texas, and his family was willing to move with him to wherever he chose to go to school. After Hicks' decision, many fans were irate that Jim Tressel once again "couldn't close" or "couldn't recruit the Cincinnati area", rather than attributing the decision to external factors JT and the staff couldn't control. If DePriest picks Alabama this year, those same critics are sure to come out again, but if you are one of those people calling out The Vest, try not to act so quickly. Keep in mind that these are two very unique situations and so rarely does Tressel miss on the top in-state prospects. Remember that this class will be among the top five in the nation when it's all said and done. Remember four of the top five prospects in the state, Braxton Miller, Kenny Hayes, Steve Miller, and Michael Bennett, are already in the bag, with it looking more and more like fellow top 10 prospects Aundrey Walker and Doran Grant are on the way as well. Remember there are still great prospects like Andre Sturdivant, Ejuan Price, Connor Crowell, Michael Caputo, and Kent Turene on the board at linebacker. Finally, remember that missing on Trey DePriest will not seal the fate of this Buckeye team in the near or distant future. The Ohio State Buckeyes are the new "Linebacker U". This team is stacked with depth at the position and will be for years to come. After Brian Rolle and Ross Homan leave this year, you have Etienne Sabino, Andrew Sweat, and Dorian Bell. Behind them you have Storm Klein, Jordan Whiting, and Jonathan Newsome. Last year's recruiting class brings us David Durham and Scott McVey. As mentioned, 2011 will bring at least one, if not two or more very good prospects at the position, and all of a sudden the Bucks are once again 10 deep at linebacker, all the while being coached by one of the best at his trade in college football, Luke Fickell. Whatever Trey DePriest decides on Friday, the Buckeyes will be OK. Of course I among many of you all want him in Scarlet and Gray, but remember, this is a program that puts linebackers into the league regularly and is even producing an entire NFL linebacking corps in St. Louis this year. The Ohio State defense continually ranks among the best in the nation and the linebackers are a big reason why. There's a reason Jim Tressel has won five straight conference championships, six straight games against Michigan (and 8-1 overall), four BCS bowl games (five bowls overall), and holds a 94-21 record as head coach of The Ohio State University (229-78-2 overall). I certainly trust in this guy to lead the Buckeyes in the right direction and represent Buckeye Nation the right way on the recruiting trail, no matter what an 18 year old kid decides to do with his college choices, and I hope you do too.

Comments

cowboy on 28 July 2010 - 8:14am.

outstanding article

Bob on 28 July 2010 - 8:23am.

Outstanding article. I believe that Fickell is not only one of the best assistants in college football, but also one of the top recruiters. I hope we don't lose him to a heading coaching job. Maybe it's time to implement a Jimbo Fisher/Will Muschamp guarantee to have Fickell take over the team when Tressel decides to hang up the vest.

Ohio452710 on 28 July 2010 - 8:26am.

Help me out but wasn't Laurenitis a 3 star?

Jay on 28 July 2010 - 8:29am.

Minor correction: Tressel has won 4 BCS bowls. 'Coop won the '98 Sugar Bowl.

jr on 28 July 2010 - 8:44am.

I will never blame jt for not landing frontrunning punks. An ohio boy who doesn't want to be a buckeye can go ahead on his way. He doesn't have it in him like the rest of us.

Josh_Alum on 28 July 2010 - 9:39am.

I think these kids might be scared of the talent breakdown.
As explained in the post, we are lucky enough to have a succession at linebackers. 2 years learning the position, 2 years starting. Alabama has 15 linebackers on their roster, but almost all of them are freshmen and sophomores.
Maybe a guy like Depriest wants to go try to start for 4 years.

Alex on 28 July 2010 - 9:52am.

Fixed. Wasn't counting Cooper's Sugar Bowl. Was Supposed to be 4 BCS Bowls and 5 overall bowl wins

Alex on 28 July 2010 - 9:53am.

Yes James was a 3-star........didn't even get an offer until AFTER his senior season I believe and some fans "bugged out" questioning his offer

Buckeye33 on 28 July 2010 - 10:03am.

“Oh absolutely. Anytime someone is part of your life, even if it doesn’t go well, when you try to get it squared away, you’ve got to continue to be there for him. That’s just the way we do things.”

Maybe JT's comment about Clarett should be forwarded to all recruits & their parents !

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 10:04am.

@ jr
Those are encouraging words JR and if I wanted to play for a great team, I'd like to play for one that had supportive fans. I keep reading that everyone says LB is not a must have, and it may be true. Then people want to criticize the kid for leaving the state and no doubt, I would feel slightly betrayed. This decision is his alone. If he is doing what he feels is best and leaves for Bama then I would support him although I think he would be making a mistake. Beyond which team can best prepare him for the NFL I think he needs to look at the character of the two coaches. When all else is hazy, look at the distinct differences. Saban, is a known liar and a glorified car salesman. Tressel appears to have class and tells it like it is. Now I probably know neither of these two men as well as Trey does by now, but my perception is that Tressel is the man you can trust. If he says something I would expect it to be the way it was. So best of luck to you Trey, and I hope more fans are less like the previous.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 10:06am.

Thank you for this article. Blaming Tressel for missing out on Hicks and Depriest would be like Urban Meyer catching heat for missing out on Sabino or Mack Brown taking heat for missing Shutgarts. It just doesn't make sense. Sometimes you miss a good player from your state. Especially a state where there are a lot of really good players every year. I'd love to get him, but if not this team will be fine.

Kyle on 28 July 2010 - 10:07am.

Tress, Fickell, Hazell and company do an outstanding job on the whole of recruiting. The thing that stings about the Hicks and possible DePriest misses is that as demographics shift and more people, and thus high school talent move south and west, putting the proverbial "fence around Ohio" becomes increasingly important. Tress has done a very good job of this during his tenure. It burns our collective asses to lose the top player in our home state, a state dominated by tOSU and its fans, to any school, much less a recent rival in Texas and the soul less used car salesman Nick Saban and the knuckledragging fanbase of the SEC (eat shit and die by the way).

Nobody should freak out. This class will still be very good with or without DePriest, likely a top 5 (especially if Doran commits out of SVSM). I do think it is fair to get a little upset to lose the top player out of Ohio, and a linebacker nonetheless to another program.

Now if Trey comes out at BW's with an OSU hat eating a bowl full of Rotel we'll all be happy campers.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 10:16am.

Whether he joins the Buckeyes or not, OSU will still keep churning out LB's. But it would be cool to hear the announcer saying "That quarterback was just baptized by DePriest!"

SB97 on 28 July 2010 - 10:18am.

IMO there was a pretty big difference between this year and last year. Last year we missed out on some elite talent from the region AND failed to fulfill some positions of need especially on the OL. This year we have done a good job filling out our roster already. So now it is a matter of going after the high value targets. If we miss out on them, we at least have filled the spots already.

Max on 28 July 2010 - 10:23am.

Conversely, I'd love to see Fickell at the OSU helm someday, but would feel a little more comfortable if he cut his teeth as a head coach somewhere first.

Alex on 28 July 2010 - 10:25am.

I agree it's a tough loss, but he's not the top player out of Ohio, Braxton Miller is. Bill Kurelic doesn't even have him in his top 5 in the state (has him at #6), and I have him at #4 behind Braxton, Doran Grant, and Michael Bennett. He is the top linebacker though and I feel that is a position of need. If he chooses OSU it will be awesome. If it's Bama, expect the heat on Ejuan Price, Kent Turene, and Connor Crowell to go up. If Sturdivant (who I have in my top 10 in 2011 for Ohio) gets his grades together he's a big win for us, and Caputo can be a strong STAR candidate if he comes to C-bus as well.

ATL Buckeye on 28 July 2010 - 10:34am.

Alex (and all of 11 Warriors) is doing an excellent job of taming expectations. Second such article in a week where a conclusion has basically been reached for this guy. I think the rest of Buckeye Nation needs to follow suit. Also, get used to more of these top notch players from in-state migrating South.

BrotherBuck on 28 July 2010 - 11:02am.

He's announcing in July and the outcry will be minimal. If it was the first week in February and he picked the Tide all the chicken littles would be crying in their bullhorns.

We would like to have Trey, but we most certainly do not need Trey.

Buckfucious on 28 July 2010 - 11:09am.

Rejection is a tough pill to swallow.

RedGray on 28 July 2010 - 11:18am.

He's announcing via press conference at a public venue in Ohio, isn't that right? Not the best setting to announce he's going south.
Just a thought, I have no idea what he wants to do, but if he feels Bama is right for him, its a good thing he goes there. This is only "bad news" if it was part of pattern showing OSU can't land top recruits anymore - and that it certainly is not. In fact, being loaded at the position may be working against us.
So, here's to hoping he goes where he'll feels is best for him and his family, and lets wish him the best regardless.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 11:26am.

I really think the demographic shift is used too often as an excuse for the Big 10. Folks, people have been moving west and south for 30 years now, this isn't a new situation. Ohio, Penn, Michigan, and Illinois are still pretty huge states population wise. Also, just because there are a lot of people in an area doesn't mean there is a ton of great football talent. New York and New England aren't really considered recruiting hotbeds and there are a ton of people up there.

Is there a demographic shift that could cause a problem? Maybe, but I think it's got more to do with the culture of high school football in the states mentioned. Ohio and Pennsylvania will always be good football states because they have great programs. There are kids bred to play football in the south. I see a similar situation in Cincinnati. Babies wearing Elder or St X gear. Those kids are born into a culture.

All that being said, you want Depriest but losing him to another school outside the conference really isn't that big of a deal. The conference had a little bit of a lull for 3 or 4 years. Last year top to bottom it was a very good league. This year it looks to be pretty tough once again. If the Big 10 goes on a run for a few years with having multiple top 10 teams and bowl success, which it looks like they might, this demographic shift talk will go by the wayside.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:29am.

Hey man, we'll take him since you guys are already crying sour grapes. BTW ,the Tide aren't exactly hurting at the linebacker position either.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:35am.

of course he is announcing in Ohio. I wouldn't read too much into that considering he is from....well...Ohio. He is going to roll with the Tide and the word is they already have a silent commit from him. He spent 3 days in T-Town after he visited Ohio State and he brought his entire family with him. He loves the Tide. I'm sure his Ohio roots is the only thing tugging him towards the Bucks at this point. We would love to have him in crimson and white. He is a great player.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:36am.

Dont be silly. He is a 5 star recruit. I'm a Bama fan and have my fingers crossed big time. He is a special player.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 11:44am.

Lebron was from Ohio! All I'm saying. Plus I think DePriest would look better in Scarlet and Grey or occasionally new uniforms of Black and Grey with little white collars.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 11:49am.

I know it's a shock, but not every great high school player from Ohio wants to go to Ohio State. So, should we get used to great talent leaving Ohio and going south? Not really. It's not as if this year and last year were the first time a great player from Ohio went elsewhere. This team is going to land 5 out of the top 6 players in Ohio, and that's if you include DePriest in the top 6. It just happens that you lose one now and then. We're going to lose great Ohio kids to other schools now and then. Sometimes it will be to the south, sometimes it will be to Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, etc. It's not a new occurance, and it's not a major problem.

Denny on 28 July 2010 - 11:52am.

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 11:54am.

He's a good player but probably wouldn't see significant playing time until he is a junior here, or he'd have to take a reshirt. This isn't a huge loss. If we were to compare the 2 major Ohio Kids that Bama and Ohio were after, the one you could lose is Depriest. Miller would've been a much bigger loss in my opinion.

Ken on 28 July 2010 - 11:57am.

I think that RedGray's point is announcement is in public (businesss) venue, in contrast to his high school (somewhat public) or his home (private). If we get him, fine; if not, oh well.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:57am.

Brian, we were after Miller but never really felt like we were going to get him. I hear a lot of chatter on here about the new liinebacker U, but Bama has a great unit as well. We were in the wilderness for a while so I can't go back 10 years like you guys can but the current unit at Bama is outstanding. They have the best unit in the SEC right now and Depriest will have to wait hi s turn in Tuscaloosa as well.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 12:02pm.

if Bama lands him, we have a shot at the top recruiting class in the nation. If we don't get him, we will still likely be in the top 3 and at worst top 5. We are putting an outstanding class together right now and we will likely close very strong with a couple of 5 stars in addition to Depriest that are virtual locks at this point. I realize this ia a buck site that I wandered onto. The Bucks are also putting a serious class together and if all the pieces fall into place this could also be a number one class. Good luck this year. You guys have a great team. I won't predict any match-up at this point. Bama has a long road to get thorugh the SEC. Our schedule is murder this year and does not set up favorably but we have an outstanding team.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 12:06pm.

Anyone who follows recruiting and calls these kids out for being punks or jerks or too much work is an idiot. I'm sorry, no one on this blog knows DePriest to make that call. Just like no one new Seantrell last year to comment on what kind of a kid he is. Would we like Trey? Absolutely. Do we need him? Not neccessarily. The kid is from Ohio but that's his only tie to Ohio State. He grew up a Michigan fan so likely he never liked seeing the Buckeyes do well. Michigan sucks so what is the 2nd best way to stick to the Buckeyes? Go to the SEC lol. Kids will go where they want to go, and calling the kid a jerk or feeling betrayed won't change any of that. Sometimes a guy just wants to go elsewhere and it doesn't matter who the coach is or what state the school is in.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 12:09pm.

Thank you for the well wishes. Sorry I can' t return the favor. I hope Bama loses 3 games and goes to the "who gives a shit" bowl. Get rid of Nick "eats cock" Saban and then I might think higher of Bama.

Powers on 28 July 2010 - 12:10pm.

at least we wont be losing him to scUM or State Penn if he decides to not be a buckeye

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 12:12pm.

Well, in that case, see you in January for your annual SEC beatdonw.

jfunk in Germany on 28 July 2010 - 12:13pm.

+1, although I've had my heart broken before by players with awesome last names. I can remember a time when I looked forward to being able to yell "Ah Skeet, Skeet, Skeet" and then the punk went and sold dope on campus.

Denster on 28 July 2010 - 12:18pm.

Breaking up is hard to do.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 12:19pm.

That's more like it! See you then and make sure you pull Mark Mays of Saban's cock before the game. Don't want any distractions!

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 12:26pm.

The next time the Bucks beat an SEC team in a bowl will the first. LOL. As for Saban, he is the best coach in college football. Tell Mr sweater vest to loosen up a bit and maybe you guys can get in done in the BCSCG. As for that potential match-up...you better hope we lose a couple and don't get there...but then again I don't think you want the big bad gators again...bet you guys wish Michigan would have gotten that rematch they were crying for instead of getting taken out to the woodshed...again...by an SEC team.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 12:31pm.

I'm not saying he wont', I'm just saying it's not a huge loss if he goes elsewhere as he won't see action for a couple of yearsw and we have other very talented LB's ready to sign as well.

Mike on 28 July 2010 - 12:32pm.

I'd completely agree with you that Saban is the best coach in college football if he weren't playing with a stacked deck. It's a little different winning championships when you can sign five extra 4* players every year and kick the ones you don't like out of school. I'd love to see how he'd do with the Big Ten's over-signing rules. I think his teams would definitely be good, but national championship good? I don't know.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 12:35pm.

All of the more reason he should stay in Ohio. I don't believe anyone is crying but I can assure you the stain we have worn through 9 bowl defeats by the SEC sucks. How is it going to feel this year when we beat you and you have to wear the title as the only SEC team to loose to the Buckeyes in the Modern Bowl Era? I sincerely hope it is a beat down and foot never comes off the gas. We have had our humpble pie, nows its time for you to have a slice.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 12:36pm.

So are you really a Bama fan or are you an ESPN anal-yst? Come on, you are Jesse Palmer aren't you? Talking smack for the Gators?

By the way, look up and see who is at the top of the list for most BCS games played. We may have lost two MNC (that's what we call it around here instead of BCSCGESPNSECSUCKSDICK), but guess what, we still have as many MNC as Bama. It must be nice to win the only game you have played in in the past what 20 years. How much did you squeal when Colt McCoy went down?

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 12:40pm.

The SEC is tough but I don't see any team down there running the table and being a sure fire number 1 team. Bama has the best shot, but I still want to see how their defense looks before I annoint them. Florida may come in ranked high but they aren't going to be a top 5 team. Georgia and Tennssee won't get it done either. On the west side of the conference LSU has tlaent but they have for the last couple of years too, so I'll believe it when I see it with them.

If Ohio State makes the BCS title game it they won't be playing an SEC team this year. It'll be a Big 12 team, Va Tech, or as much as I hate to say it Boise State.

I do agree that Saban is probably the best coach in college football, the problem is, he never stays the course. So while he's worth it when he's there, the fall out is never good when he gest bored and leaves after 3 or 4 years.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 12:41pm.

Interesting point you bring up about him doing it in a public place. Now we have to ask, "What is his motive?" If he realy is a diehard Michigan fan, maybe he wants to hear all the Buckeye faithful booing. Then again, if he feels the Buckeyes are the best place for him then maybe he wants to share that joy and excitement with the rest of the fans? Best of wishes to him.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 12:44pm.

IloveRolle, that's cute...anyway...Bama won the game and that is all that matters....Bama's defense would have adjusted to Colt and there would have been no difference. Colt wasn't going to stop our running game and the Bucks won't be able to either. Don't make me laugh when talking about the Tide and the Bucks and national championships...we're back baby and we aren't going anywhere so get used to it. We have a recruiting machine that is second to no one. The reason why espn loves the SEC...because it is superior to the Big Ten...I'll get back to you after we tune up the black shoes the second week of September in Tuscaloosa...Hate the gators...but did enjoy watching them hammer the overated Buckeyes. Seriously...you guys will make it back to the BCSCG, but only because a junior high team could naviagate the Big Ten these days.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 12:47pm.

Brain, Saban is not going anywhere..he is treated like a god at Bama. Trust me I have been following the program since the Bear and he is the first coach to even be mentioned in the same breath. I agree with you about running the table but one loss and the winner of the SEC is in. Don't be so sure about the gators and the top 5. They are going to be very good this year. Don't count them out. The only game staring at them where they won't be favored is October 2 in Tuscaloosa.

iball on 28 July 2010 - 12:47pm.

With Homan and Rolle leaving, it seems like it would be the perfect time to sign a s a buckeye.

iball on 28 July 2010 - 12:48pm.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 12:50pm.

I quote "if Bama lands him, we have a shot at the top recruiting class in the nation. If we don’t get him, we will still likely be in the top 3 and at worst top 5."

Thats all these high caliber recruits are to Saban and the SEC following. They want to be recognized and to be considered the best. They likely don't care about the kids future but to them it's all about the perception. You what they call that? Inferiority complex. Since you guys lost the war some 160 years ago, you're "The south will rise again" motto has been waived around in many different venues. Football is just the latest but not the last.
We want depriest because he's an Ohioan. I also want to see him treated right and get a great education. I think he can do great things for himself and for the university. We don't want him just to be considered the number 1 class in the nation.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 12:50pm.

The has only been one person in this thread that has made a comment that was negative abuot the kid. No one is crying, and there are no sour grapes. In fact, it seems most people are ok with the fact that a kid from Ohio has decided he wants to play somewhere else. Only one person said he didn't want him. Everyone is in agreement it would be great to have him, but if he's going elsewhere then so be it, we'll be fine with or without him.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 12:53pm.

give me a break. you guys want him because he will help you win football games.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 12:54pm.

Bamamat
The reason why espn loves the SEC…because it is superior to the Big Ten…

Really the Bigten leads the BCS Bowl series 8-6 in bowl matchups. Why don't you go find another category that caters to your favor?

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 12:55pm.

Already admitted as much. I also said it wasn't the sole objective.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 12:58pm.

Irricoir, how have the Bucks done against the SEC in bowl games....answer is 0-9. Chew on that one for a while.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 12:59pm.

Because Bama is the only team on their schedule that is very good. Just like last yeah tey lost to the one good team they played. I know it's hard to believe but your league was 2 deep last year, and probably won't be as strong at the top this year as they were last year.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 12:59pm.

As for Saban no going anywhere, ask LSU how that mentality worked out for them.

sam on 28 July 2010 - 12:59pm.

How is Mike Doss not in the question on the right? Just sayin...

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:01pm.

fair enough,

pam on 28 July 2010 - 1:01pm.

wow, I didn't know that. is it really 0-9? thanks for telling me, otherwise I would never have known this shameful fact.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:05pm.

Yeah like every Buckeye doesn't know that. But you are the one with all of the conference smack talk so keep it in the conference. Now if you want to talk teams talk teams. Which is it? You can't have it both way can you? You guys spend so much time riding the coattails. Aren't you supposed to be wearing the coat now?

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:06pm.

Brian, the SEC West is going to be very competitive. As for a drop off at Bama...don't bet on it. We have had the top recruiting class in the nation in 2008 and 2009. Those kids will be taking the field in full force this year. Two deep? Granted the East is down, but the West has Bama, Arkansas and LSU who will all be in the top 20. The East will have Florida, Georgia and S. Carolina who will all be in the top 20 with maybe the exception of USC. Saban will not leave Bama until he retires. Keep in mind that he left LSU only to go to the NFL and he found that he didn't like it. I don't believe that he wants to wind up like Spurrier who left FL and really damaged what could have been a great college coaching legacy. I almost...and I mean almost...feel sorry for Spurrier.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:08pm.

Bama can slug it out with any team in the country...don't you agree? I was being friendly until one of your bucknuts got cocky.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 1:09pm.

What's your point? Most of those games were lowly bowls or in a year where Ohio State didn't have much to gain by winning a bowl game. There are quite a few Outback/Citrus type bowls in that 0-9 record. One thing I can say, this particular Buckeye team will be a beast, and I only hope they meet up with Bama or another SEC team.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:11pm.

Hmm who leads between the two teams for "Unauthorized distribution of textbooks and coaches spending the schools money at Titty Bars or scholarships lost or hell, I can go on for many of sentences but I am getting bored. We self report the smallest of issue but haven't gotten a death penalty like your storied program. It's amazing you guys have pride in that retched school. Then again you probably take pride in the fact that you have all your teeth as compared to your inbread family tree, you filthy mouth breather. South Eastern Cheating, where if you aren't cheating you aren't trying!

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 1:11pm.

Outside of Florida and LSU, what "hard schedule team" are you playing? Georgia State? San Jose State? Duke?

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:13pm.

I concede you didn't start this tirade. Normally, I am the passive and complimentary type. Just defensive about the Buckeyes and I have no argument for 0-9. That is such and old and tired road.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 1:14pm.

Bama won't even play Georgia this year. Arkansas won't finish in the top 25, bet on it. Seriously, you are using South Carolina in your arguement?

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 1:14pm.

South Carolina gets ranked every year at the beginning of the year and ends up being a 4 or 5 loss team. Georgi gets talent but never seems to really put it together. LSU has a ton of talent but I don't believe Les Miles knows how to coach/manage a game. I don't see the SEC being much different than it was last year. The oly thing I'll give credit for is that a team like Arkansa may sneak a big win in against one of the big dogs. I can totally see a 2 loss SEC champ this year and it's not because of how great the talent is dstributed but because there are some holes and vulnerabilities of the top teams. Just having the top recruiting classes doesn't mean the guys are going to step right into their roles and be great. There's a thing calle experience that also helps in football. Ask Florida how that works, I think they said the samething heading into the 06 season.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:17pm.

Brian ,I'll take my chances with this years edition of the Tide. We have the best running back combination in the country. Trent Richardson is our number two and he has all american potential. We have an outstanding offensive line and a solid qb. Our front 7 maybe the best front seven in college football. Our secondary is the queston mark but we have returning all american Mark Barron back there and 4 and 5 star recruits falling off trees. Are we unbeatable? No, but it is going to take a great team that plays a great game to beat us. There is a reason why we will open the seasnon as the consensus number one team in the country. But between you and me...my pick to win it all...Ohio State...there I said it. Why? Your schedule sets up very nice and I believe you will be in the NCG and that you have a good enough team to win that game against whoever else is left standing.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:18pm.

Simply put for speculations sake. If Bama and the Bucks played it would be interesting, all records aside. I think that your qb is overrated and has always been surrounded by talent to keep him unbeatedn. You have the best two rb's in the land. Your defense is expected to be good but unproven. Is Marcell Derius going to play this year? He is the only true talent I saw in your spring game other than the newcomer Fitzpatrick. Has Julio Jones found his hands yet? He has a ton of potential but he looked horrible last year and during the spring game. Hightower should be good but what have we seen of the others? I wasn't impressed. Your strongest attribute is against the run. Check recent history and see what our conference is known for and how good we are against that. At 0-9 I would claim victory but I think we'd be competitive.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:20pm.

Irricoir, I could buy and sell you and your brood so no need for the stereotypes. I live in south florida these days in the wealthiest country in the USA. I have many Ohians that live along side of me and when I go to their homes I root for the BUcks with them. Don't be so nasty when you are trying to exhibit class. Otherwise you would never fit in with the people here should you decide to move.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 1:20pm.

I started this to get a little mid summer juice going. Really, this is just fun!

But to seriously place Bama's schedule so much higher than OSU's, it really isn't that much harder of a schedule.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 1:25pm.

Mike Doss was great but I would put Chris Gamble above him. He shut down Andre Johnson in the MNC.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:29pm.

irricoir, now thats better. Gmac is a game manager. He won't make a good pro if that is what you mean. Dareus is about to be cleared. The defense will be outstanding and as for the spring game they looked great against the best Tide offense I have seen in 40 years. The position rankings came out and the linebackers are rated number one in the SEC and the Line is rated number two. Kirkpatrick is a budding star and mark barron is an AA. Hightower is coming off an injury but is 100%. Jereel Harris is an outstanding talent and so is Nico Johnson. Kerry Murphy is a stud and can play inside or outside on the Line and Josh Chapman may make everyone forget about Cody. The frout 7 is going to be outstanding. Oh and how could I forget all sec pick courtney upshaw. The Tide will be loaded on defense. And as for our running game...we shredded the number one rushing defense in the title game last year and this years additon should be improved with Richardson getting more carries.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:29pm.

Bamamat

I can be hospitable and don't typicaly result to stereotypes. When insults start flowing or trash talk is engaged things are said and things happen. You can thank your SEC teammates for the sour responses. If you had never taken the bait we would be at this point. In turn, I fired back.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 1:32pm.

I'm not doubting Bama's talent at all. I think they 'll be a good team. I think maybe you underestimate Ohioh State's schedule a bit. Miami is going to be a tough foe, and at Iowa and at Wisconsin are likely going to be matchups against top 10 teams on the road. I think this is Ohio State's toughest schedule in a while really.

Olentangy on 28 July 2010 - 1:32pm.

+1

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:40pm.

Brian and the rest ,I think you misunderstood me when I said your schedule was favorable. I didn't say easy...the big ten is a brutal conference. Bama has to play 6 teams coming off bye weeks against the final 6 SEC opponents. They get Florida this year albeit at home. The road game against a very potent arkansas offense makes me nervous. They travel to s carolina after the Gators which will be a dangerous game and they travel to LSU which is never a picnic. We also play Penn State. Not saying you guys have an easy road just like the way your schedule sets up. I always look at it this way...a top notch team should win their home games and I look at the road for potential landmines. I like the way your schedule sets up. I would worry about Miami if that were on the road but you guys are better and should handle them.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:41pm.

Yes Brian those will be two very tough road contests that the Bucks will need to win. I think the bucks are very good....i'm picking them to win it all...what more do you want?lol

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 1:42pm.

For Bama fans to bow down Bitch! LOL

pam on 28 July 2010 - 1:45pm.

I come to this blog to get my daily fix of Buckeye news. If I wanted to read about 'Bama, I would go to one of their blogs. I realize that this discussion involves an Ohioan that may be going to 'Bama or tOSU, but I won't be visiting Tide blogs to give my opinion on where he should go. Is it too much to ask to let us have this respite from the "0-9" and SEC chest thumping?

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:46pm.

Ignore that dude. We're getting somewhere.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:48pm.

Yeah, I don't doubt you'll be good. Honestly, and I watched that game, I wouldn't be too keen on your rushing performance. I saw a Texas, who isn't known for great defense, play you guys extremely well for nearly the first half. Colt going down and the back up going three and out the entire half set them up for failure. Injuries are a part of the game and thats not to say that you couldn't have done it with Colt in the game. You guys played a much better game against Florida than you did Texas. Much better.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:49pm.

Rolle, if we run the table in the SEC...and we could...my pick changes...if Bama makes it to the BCSCG...The Tide Rolls. I just have my doubts that they can win all 12 regular season games for the 3rd year in a row. If we make it there...we win...again!

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 1:51pm.

Come on. just having fun! Bama is a very good team. I would be very concerned if we had to face them in the MNC.

poop on 28 July 2010 - 1:53pm.

It works out sometimes. Most of the time 3-star players play like 3-star players and that's why people panic. I'm not panicking over Depriest though. We've got plenty of depth and it's quality depth. Next year we better start looking at some linebackers.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 1:54pm.

If our offense finds rythm and can manage some decent drives then I would not pick your rushing attack to do to us what it did to Texas. I am telling you that are defense is for real. Check the stats. Our offense has to uphold it's end of the bargain to make it competitive. I would give you the edge on offense and say its a draw on defense. I do believe Richardson is a stud and better than ingram. I haven't seen the consistancy (yet) on offense to make me think we can keep our defense on the field an appropriate amount of the time against Bama, sad to say. I do need to see the proof out of your men that did not start last year. I understand they have playing experience but until they are starters it is just hype. Thats goes for us Bucks too.

southbaybuckeye_ITS on 28 July 2010 - 1:55pm.

what about dustin fox though?

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 1:59pm.

nice chatting with you guys. I think we can all agree on this...can't wait until the pickskin meets the toe. Should be interesting and hopefully we meet in the NCG! Irricoir, your analysis is right on...One of the reasons I like this years edition of the Bucks is because of the way TP played in the Rose Bowl. Seems like he is ready to bloom...no pun intended.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 2:00pm.

Truthfuly, I live in Bama but my heart is in Ohio. I hate the fans here that will spout 0-9 just seeing me in my gear. It irritates me that for no other reason than riding the high right now that with out provocation they would do that. Hell Bama is only responsible for one of those bowl losses if I am not mistaken. I wouldn't want to play any other team in the championship game because it would be viewed as a tainted title by the people here. (Side note: I have seen a lot of mouth breathers here, and retract my earlier statement since I can not prove you were one of them lol.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 2:04pm.

irricoir, haven't lived in Bama for a long time but as a kid growing up with Bear Bryant as such a huge figure it became a lifelong passion of rooting for the Tide. Sorry if I offended anyone, but there is a lot of pressure being the fan of the defending champs and it makes me say things I wouldn't ordinarily say.lol. I didn't realize you lived in hostile territory! Are you in Tuscaloosa? I lived in the Mobile area as a kid.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 2:07pm.

That is the problem with a question like that. We love them all.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 2:16pm.

you wouldn't have said anything offensive if you weren't goaded into it. I just thought it would be nice to get into it since we have a few more weeks to go. Sorry.

I do hate everything that is Florida but not the same for Bama. I just don't like Saban. He is sketchy and has let down some teams in the past. I live in Louisville, Kentucky and have seen what happens when a coach who builds up a team just up and leaves. It would be a shame if the same happened to a storied program like Bama.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 2:28pm.

no worries, just an annonymous blog...i'll be watching the Bucks very closely..I have a few freinds from Ohio and they love the Bucks and I always end up over at their house for the big ones.

Max on 28 July 2010 - 2:29pm.

Mr. Opportunity, Wil Allen

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 2:34pm.

BTW, saw Brian Rolle play quite a few times in high school. Great player. He played at the same high school as Javaris James who is the cousin of Edgerin James who also played there.

Brian on 28 July 2010 - 2:35pm.

I loved Mike Doss and Antoine Winfield. 2 of the smallest guys on the field, but hit harder than anyone else. Guys didn't forget getting layed out by either of them.

southbaybuckeye_ITS on 28 July 2010 - 2:38pm.

I love Donnie Nickey too... just bc he beat Lendale "man titties" White's ass.

southbaybuckeye_ITS on 28 July 2010 - 2:39pm.

Kurt Kitner prob doesn't remember it, but bouncing your head off the turf will do that to ya.

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 2:42pm.

After Laurinaitis many of us were worried about the middle linebacker. Rolle stepped in and took the job. I believe he deserves some praise. Damn good player! as are the James boys.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 2:55pm.

The Edge is a good man too. He does a lot for that community which is very poor. I see him around the area every once in a while. He has another cousin at a local high school who is a 3 star corner who is headed to possible Iowa. I see a TE play quite a bit as well that is headed to Ohio State that plays at the kids school as well. Heinerman(sp) he is like 6 "5" and has great hands. If you guys can get him to fill out he is going to be a stud TE.

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 3:06pm.

You stoked my interest, what? A buckeye whooped Lendale? Got a link?

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 3:08pm.

I like Zack Dumas for this hit and this hit only. Especialy given whom the opponent was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Sam on 28 July 2010 - 3:12pm.

who can sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in a white dress

Ketchup popsicle?

Irricoir on 28 July 2010 - 3:34pm.

25 Most Hated Teams-How the hell is the 2002 Buckeyes not on that list. Reading chat there is no one outside of Ohio that likes the Buckeyes, or I have been lead to believe.

BuckeyeSaab on 28 July 2010 - 3:37pm.

Man who poops in his own shoes has some effed up issues.

Gus on 28 July 2010 - 3:53pm.

Hot article!

IheartBRolle on 28 July 2010 - 3:58pm.

Never heard that one before?

Matt on 28 July 2010 - 4:14pm.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c...

at least we made honorable mention.

JT on 28 July 2010 - 4:24pm.

+1

JT on 28 July 2010 - 4:32pm.

Rumor on Bucknuts that DePriest and mom traveling to Columbus tonight/tomorrow for another meeting - any truth?

gbm on 28 July 2010 - 4:43pm.

I agree with iball, now would be a great time to sign an amazing talent at LB and let him redshirt a year and then tear up the Big11 for 3-4 years. Only problem is we still have Sabino, Klein, and Bell. Two of which are ready to rock for the mentioned 3-4 years right now. With Homan and Roll leaving after this year it would seem like an ideal time to sign if I was a 5 star kid.

Alex on 28 July 2010 - 5:25pm.

I believe it is indeed true.....from all the info I have gathered I would guess (key word), that Trey is being classy and telling JT in person that he is going to Bama....there is the chance though that he is giving OSU one last chance to make a pitch and/or committing to JT in person...we will have to wait until Friday to hear

chad on 28 July 2010 - 5:29pm.

ScarletBuckeye is reporting the same thing. I don't believe he would go to campus just to tell JT that he is going to Bama. He might be going there for one last quick visit or to give his verbal.

Good news IMO.

poop on 28 July 2010 - 5:32pm.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...

No one beat anyone's azz. Lendale was being Lendale (a classless punk) and Donnie took offense. They scuffled (along with others) and it was broken up. Lendale was cut by the Seahawks this year by his boy Petey and also failed a drug test. Looks like Karma is cashing that check.

Bucksfan on 28 July 2010 - 5:41pm.

'Bama is 0-2 against the Big Ten this decade in bowls, including losses to Michigan and Minnesota. They're also 1-2 in BCS bowls. You're talking an awful lot of shit for a fan of a team that went 4-9 in 2003 losing to Hawaii in the finale, 6-6 in 2004, 6-7 in 2006 losing the bowl to OK St., 7-6 in 2007, and losing the Sugar Bowl to Utah in 2008.

Ohio State hasn't had a losing record in over 20 years, and Bama has had 2 this last decade, plus a 0.500 season. Ohio State is 5-3 in BCS bowls with a national title and a Heisman, but with 7 conference titles in that time. Bama is 1-2 in BCS bowls with a national title and a Heisman, with 2 SEC titles. It's not even a contest.

Just because Ohio State hasn't beaten an SEC team yet doesn't mean the rest of the Big Ten has been having any troubles. Even with Ohio State's 4 losses, the record is Big Ten 15 - SEC 14 in bowls in the BCS era. There is no fucking way we're going to let you say you're better when you aren't. So piss off.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 28 July 2010 - 6:02pm.

Right, because no Ohio player would announce he was going to a team down south while still in Ohio....at a press conference....on television... for an hour.

Bucksfan on 28 July 2010 - 6:16pm.

Sorry...miscounted. It's Big Ten 16 - SEC 15.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 28 July 2010 - 6:18pm.

In all honesty, I will be heartbroken if he does not come to tOSU. He is wearing my high school alma mater's jersey in that pic for crying out loud!

To my knowledge the only other player from Springfield South High (now Springfield High) to play for the Buckeyes was Dee Miller.

I mentioned on here before that I went to high school with his mother. She was in the flag core when I was a member of our drill/dance team. So for me, its a little personal and I hope he comes to Columbus.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 6:20pm.

bucksfan, that was then and this is now. Bama is back and don't even go into history with me. Sure Bama had a rough patch but how many national championships do the bucks have and how many does the Tide have? Of course you know the answer. Things are different now and the big red elephant is awake in T-Town. Only God can save the Bucks if we do happen to meet. So piss off!

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 6:22pm.

bucksfan ,still hae that 0-9 record for your bucks in bowl games hanging around your neck and 0-3 against the Tide. So again...piss off!

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 6:29pm.

bucks are 0-9 and I didn't miscount that. 0-3 against the Tide. Chew on that one. The next one you guys wiin will be the first. Sooner or later it has to happen....right? Cubs fans have been saying that for years.

southbaybuckeye_ITS on 28 July 2010 - 7:15pm.

11w first all day troll??

Kyle on 28 July 2010 - 8:34pm.

Flag corps = no hotties.

chad on 28 July 2010 - 9:28pm.

Damn Kyle.

Bucksfan on 28 July 2010 - 9:40pm.

Alabama is 0-2 against the Big Ten in bowls...chew on that! They've never beaten Michigan. Chew on that! They have a losing record in bowls this decade. Chew on that! They have a losing record in BCS bowls. Chew on that. They lost to an unranked, non-BCS opponent at home in November of 2007...louisana-monroe. Chew on THAT!!! Just like Oklahoma and Pittsburgh, the Tide are the only other school to lose to a BCS buster. Chew on THAT!! You talk about Ohio State's embarrassments?! HAHA!!! We never lose to pee-wee teams like your sorry squad.

Alabama actually only has 7 legit national titles (AP) out of the 13 they claim. The others are either retroactively awarded, or were given by non-mainstream publications. For example, the 8-2-0 1941 Tide team finished 20th in the AP, but was awarded a national title that they actually recognize by Football Thesaurus. To show I'm not biased, Ohio State claims 7, but 5 are legit. So, chew on that!

How many Heismans? 1? Woops...OSU has 7 of those...soon to be the most of any school. BCS game appearances? Ohio State has 8, with a winning record...soon to be the most of any school (USC). Chew on that!

jr on 28 July 2010 - 9:46pm.

Brian you need to read what I wrote again, I was hating on jordan hicks

Bucksfan on 28 July 2010 - 9:49pm.

Alabama is actually on probation RIGHT NOW. Remember those text book related offenses? Yeah, they're in trouble through June of 2012. So, the Tide won A national championship, but your football team is on probation, your coach is running a farm system by oversigning, your players are talking to agents at parties in Miami.

Colt McCoy didn't play? What? And you're talking shit? HAHA!!! If Colt McCoy didn't play in the 2009 Fiesta Bowl, Ohio State would have beat the shit out of Texas, too. So, lucky you.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 28 July 2010 - 10:04pm.

You said it, I didnt.....

ATL Buckeye on 28 July 2010 - 10:43pm.

Bamamatt- I happily accept your well wishes. Don;t really get that from SEC fans. Please don;t let the 'lifeless' fans who would like to argue or get into chess matches not cloud your thoughts. Hard to argue against SEC dominance lately.

PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 28 July 2010 - 10:47pm.

The coach in waiting BS splits loyalties.... make him Asst. Head coach along with Hazel.

Anonymous Internet Person on 28 July 2010 - 10:49pm.

Dayum...

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:17pm.

bucksfan, 0-3 against the Tide. Can't believe a buckeye would have to resort to Michigan to fight his battles.lol. The Tide is back and the universe is right again. Can't forget that tail whipping that the Bear gave that embarrassment of a coach Woody. Sad exit he had anyway....good luck this year and see you in January for your anuall SEC beatdown!

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:22pm.

Bucksfan, Bama has 32 bowl wins which is the all time best...Chew on that....

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:23pm.

The buckeyes have a fine program...tried to be nice but some of these guys...welll..you know...good luck...should be a great year in C-bus!

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:27pm.

5 legit my ass...if you have 5 then we have 13...you have 3...which is far short of the 8 legit ones that we claim....0-3 my man...0-3...and if you play us this year it wil be another trip out to the woodshed for the Chokeyeyes.

bamamatt on 28 July 2010 - 11:29pm.

"players don't come to alabama to win heisman trophies, they come to win national championships"

-Bear Bryant

Ttownman on 28 July 2010 - 11:36pm.

Alabama only has mostly freshman and soph LB's b/c St. Nick coaches 'em up for the league after only three seasons. So the juniors always get drafted b/c St. Nick always advises players who can get drafted to declare for the draft. "The" Ohio State University has to make do with second tier SEC walk on scout team recruits. And as for an all OSU linebacking corp at St. Louis, well, that speaks for itself. Also, Penn St. is "Linebacker U", not the 0-9 vs. SEC in bowl games Buckeyes. RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

poe mcknoe on 28 July 2010 - 11:36pm.

best hit ever

poe mcknoe on 28 July 2010 - 11:43pm.

Tommy Boy

poe mcknoe on 28 July 2010 - 11:44pm.

You have internet access?

Ttownman on 28 July 2010 - 11:46pm.

Keep dreaming. In the event OSU makes it to the title game it may or may not be the Tide who represent the SEC in the NC game, but it is safe to say that whoever it is would produce another (yawn) woodshed beating of OSU on the national stage. Oh and by the way, live up the conference championship for another season......Bo Pelini sends his regards.

chazz on 28 July 2010 - 11:47pm.

does a Trey verbal mean that we have heard the last from bamamatt? I understand his passion for his team. Are we any less verbal and passionate about the Bucks?? But let's keep that here and not troll on a Tide site for crying out loud. I visit other sites and have had to "defend" the Buckeye Nation every now and then, but NOT as a troll. Just saying. Keep it classy fellow Buckeyes or it will come back to bite us. Go Bucks!!!

Ttownman on 29 July 2010 - 12:04am.

Oh my, bringing the War between the States into this? You really are desperate. SECondly, at Alabama, every player has a grad student tutor....don't care about their future? Really? Get familiar with a program before you trash it. Typical yankee.

Brian on 29 July 2010 - 12:40am.

I never pull for a Big 10 team to win but Ohio State. Unlike you all in the southeast, I cheer for one team, not 12. After reading your mindless drivel, I'm going to cheer my ass off for Penn State when they travel to T-Town as you call it. Somehow I just think they are going to pull that game out. Joe Pa's shorts will stay clean but it'll be Bama shitting the bed in that game.

Bucksfan on 29 July 2010 - 3:12am.

bamamatt, you're the most two-faced poster I've ever seen on any site. You also don't have your stats right. Alabama is TIED with USC at 31 bowl wins. Secondly, Ohio State had no control over the Big Ten limiting their teams to ONLY the Rose Bowl until the late 1970s. Can't go to bowls if the league doesn't permit it.

Bringing up games that happened over 30 years ago is hilarious. On one hand you say "that was then, this is now," then you bring up a bowl from 1976. Which is it? Whatever fits your argument for that moment, I guess...just like all SEC fans.

Don't worry, I'm not fooled by your southern gentility. I've had enough experience with your kind over the last 4 years that I simply don't buy into a mythical "southern hospitality," and your swiftness to dish out rhetorical SEC SEC SEC, 0-9, 0-9, 0-9 chanting is all the validation I need for that.

German Buckeye on 29 July 2010 - 5:29am.

here, here....

jaxstor on 29 July 2010 - 5:49am.

his team will be on probation soon enough

German Buckeye on 29 July 2010 - 5:59am.

Everyone is gifted - but some people never open their package

buckeyedude on 29 July 2010 - 8:00am.

If he chooses Alabama, I would think it would have a lot to do with the depth at linebacker Ohio State.

buckeyedude on 29 July 2010 - 8:08am.

I bet he'll get plenty of playing time his frosh year at Bama.

buckeyedude on 29 July 2010 - 8:10am.

I think you just took Musburger's line. He's going to be pissed.

skillet on 29 July 2010 - 9:41am.

Wow...I thought it was our SEC little sisters that had such a childish hatred. The unflattering references to Saban are not only childish and pitiful...they're just wrong. You may want to do a little homework and look into the way he handles his players on and off the field, academics, community....well documented by others than the parasitic hacks that give syndicated NFL commentary
I can certainly understand the envy, but some of your comments are completely unfounded. Plus...fans of a top tier school like OSU whining that another school recruits unfairly? Come on. Pot meet kettle. It's a given any major program bends the rules as much as possible. Does Saban? Sure. Does Tressel, Paterno, Stoops, Brown...etc...you better believe it. So dry out your panties and beat your chest over your teams accomplishments...but don't cry and scream "You cheated!" like my 5 yr old every time you get beat .

skillet on 29 July 2010 - 9:55am.

LOL...what an idiot.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 10:16am.

What's that you say?...Can't hear you....there's a crystal football in my ear.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 10:18am.

Great let's play the what if game...what if that ref would not have thrown the bullshit flag for pass interference after the gatorade had been dumped on Larry Cokers head...you guys would still be searching for your first NC since 1968....where in the world do you guys get the notion that college football revolves around C-bus?

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 10:19am.

Yes...either way...I will go away...actually enjoyed talking to you buck fans about your fine football team.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 10:23am.

get bent dufus. 0-9 and doing fine! I saw that Bama had 31 but thought the wiki stats were outdated and didn't appear to include last years bowl win...if so...I stand corrected...Any fan base the worships a cretin like Woody Hayes and slams Sabam is comical...

pam on 29 July 2010 - 10:49am.

I can play the what if game...............what if the ref would have ruled Gamble in bounds (which he was) or called PI (his jersey being nearly ripped off) giving tOSU a 1st down and winning the game in regulation?

Ohio State football revolves around C-bus. Big shock there. I imagine in T-town it revolves around the Tide. I don't this for sure because I don't go on Tide blogs.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 10:54am.

Brian I only wish I were your bookie!

blazers on 29 July 2010 - 10:55am.

c'mon dude. just as much depth at bama. they have been cranking out LB's the last few years.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 11:00am.

Brian...or you could be so depressed by game time after your bucks lay a turd against the canes earlier in the day...that...well...you couldn't care less at that point...and also...now I am really scared of PSU because you will be cheering for them...Bama will handle Penn State...They have no QB and Bama will win it in the trenches..Bama has a very physical team up front.

BuckeyeBrad on 29 July 2010 - 11:22am.

bamamatt, no need to go away, I enjoyed your insight when you weren't getting pulled into moronic fights....good to get an outsiders opinion once in a while, we are very OSU-centric here obviously....not a Bama fan at all, but respect what they did on the field last year and what they are poised to do this year.....would love to sewttle this on the field in the MNC come January!!

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 11:57am.

Exactly my point...The Bucks won and that is all that matters...just like the Tide won and that is all that matters. Thanks for helping me make my point! I wandered on here and probably wont come back but man you guys are making this very entertaining for me....BTW...from what I hear Deprest will be a buckeye...he made one last trip to C-bus yesterday and I bet that he signs with the Bucks...I hope not because we would love to have him but wherever he goes I wish the young man luck.

Bucksfan on 29 July 2010 - 11:59am.

skillet, go crack open another cold one and shoot something off a fence with your cousin.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 12:01pm.

I keep getting sucked into the childish exchanges. I do really respect the Buckeye program...I mean seriously...how couldn't I? Would love to see the Tide make it to the BCSCG but that is a long way away at this point. What is MNC an abbreviation for? Obviously the NC is National chanpionship but have never heard that before. Not a surprise that I would encounter rabid buck fans on a buck blog,lol BTW I have also enjoyed the information that many who have insulted me gave me.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 12:05pm.

Hello fellow Tide fan! You are wordsmith to say the least.RTR!

NW Buckeye on 29 July 2010 - 12:13pm.

The M stands for Mythical. There are those who believe that the championship is not real unless there is a tourny leading up to it. i.e. a playoff system that produces a tournament winner. Many want to trivialize the season for the sake of a tournament. Hence you would get an RNC, or in my mind a TNC. I will leave it to you to decipher the inits.

Enjoyed your posts. Good luck this year.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 12:20pm.

good luck to the bucks..should be an exciting year for buckeye nation. you guys have a seriously good team this year. If Pryor plays well you could win them all plus one.

NW Buckeye on 29 July 2010 - 12:30pm.

Skillet,
Agreed, Saban is a good football coach who may not deserve all the name calling. However the press he gets for oversigning recruits - you can reference numerous articles - justifies some of the criticism here. Mind you, not enough to ramble the way some people do, but hey, this is a Buckeye site, and for the most part the posters here are not going out of their way to ramble on an SEC site like we see your "SEC little sisters" do on multiple OSU blogs (check out the Dispatch Buckeye site). But I do agree with you that some of the accusations and name calling here are uncalled for. What I did find tacky was the reception bamamatt got from a few posters when he was for the most part being very civil in his initial posts.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 12:43pm.

Saban follows the recruiting guidlines by the NCAA and does what the SEC allows. Hes a great recruiter..always has been...he had great classes at LSU...He pretty much has the state of Alabama locked down, recruits GA very well, and we also pull from other border states and get some big recruits from the Florida panhandle. This is very rare that we are seriously in the game for a recruit this far northm Ingram only came because his family knew Saban from Mich State. I hope we get Trey...he is a great player...but I don't expect to develop a pipeline of Ohio for our recruiting base...Tressel pretty much has the state of Ohio locked down and high school footballl in Ohio is unreal...everyone knows that.

NorthRunningBrook on 29 July 2010 - 12:54pm.

From the Buckeye Scout site recruiting board...

"TheShu wrote: I think HotMic has said, "Good luck at Alabama Trey" about 50 gazillion times now. Does anybody really have any doubt about Friday's announcement? I don't even know why a formal announcement, in a HS gym, at a local eating establishment or wherever, is even necessary for ANY kid. Just call the coach of the school you want to go to and tell him you'd like to accept his offer, and tell the others you appreciate it, but no thank you, you've decided to go elsewhere, and call it a day. It's between you, your family, and those coaches, and really nobody else. High school kids making media announcements about where they intend to play college football. Really shows the path this country has gone down. Whatever happened to humility? Even if he were going to OSU, a simple, "Thank you Coach Tressel, I'd like to accept your kind offer," would be enough. I'm not ripping on Trey BTW, just the state of things in sports. While I'm interested in seeing who's coming to play for the Bucks, it's out of control."

TheShu has it right.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 1:00pm.

yeah, I don't like the spectacle that it has become. Sitting there at the table with the hats...some even go as far as picking up the hats of the programs they are dismissing to act as though they are going to put them on before choosing their school. If I were lucky enough to get an offer from either of these two schools, I would certainly appreciate both programs offering me a chance to play there. Not saying Trey will show disrespect to either but I have seen some kids get carried away with it...and of course some have their entire entourage standing behind them. Besides...Trey can still change his mind after tomorrow anyway...However..if he chooses the bucks that will be about it...on the other hand as a Tide fan I wouldn't be sure until signing day....we lost Keenan Allen ,5* recruit, in the 11th hour last year.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 1:06pm.

Meant that if he choose the Tide tomorrow I wont be sure till signing day...if he chooses the bucks he sticks with them for sure imop

NorthRunningBrook on 29 July 2010 - 1:18pm.

Having a public announcement is bad enough but to then act like a douche is beyond the pale.

Brian on 29 July 2010 - 6:22pm.

I don't care about the QB situation, they have a good offensive line and 2 stud RB's to go up against your 9 new starters on defense. I don't care what their star rating is, replacing 9 starters is never easy. They'll have a hiccup early and I wouldn't be surprised if Penn State makes it a game. Not to mention Penn State has a good D. Penn State just may surprise you all.

Brian on 29 July 2010 - 6:25pm.

One word in that paragraph is exactly why people hate SEC fans. SECondly, I'll stick with cheering with one team, you can cheer for 12.

Brian on 29 July 2010 - 6:28pm.

"Any fan base the worships a cretin like Woody Hayes and slams Sabam is comical…"

I think that says much more about you, then it does Ohio State fans. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the typical fan who loves Woody Hayes, but I guess you are basing you argument over 1 incident and didn't educate youself about other things the man did. I bet you didn't think Saban was so honorable when he was whooping Bama's ass on the field and recruiting a few years back.

Kalamazoo Steve on 29 July 2010 - 6:59pm.

Shouldn't these Bama fans be hosting agent parties instead of trolling our sites?

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 7:16pm.

woody had far more than "one" incident. He was on a short leash already when he imploded. I guess you are quite as well read on the subject as you think. As for Saban at LSU, he did a good job while he was there too and I didn't think he was doing anything wrong. I'm not some fan looking at everything from crimson glasses. The Tide program had its problems in the early part of the decade. You have to understand that the program was always looking for the next Bear Bryant and fans would never let that go. It is exciting to have a coach that is winning and recruiting again. As for him leaving...every coach will leave eventually...just a matter of when....I predict Saban will stay for a long time and I already posted why...you crack me up anyway...you seem like a knowledgeable fan so act like it and don't resort to childish name calling like some of these other jerk offs on here.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 7:24pm.

Brian, stick to the buckeye stuff because you are cluesless when it comes to the Tide defense. Our secondary is the only question mark and if you knew anything, you would know that. They had 4 players make the all sec preseason team. Our front 7 is the best in the SEC this year. Every football analyst out there pretty much agrees with that. Our secondary is a question mark but Mark Barron was an all american last year and we have Dre Kirkpatrick and Burton Scott at the corners and a very hard hitting safety, Rod Woodson that will fill in nicely. We will be very stout. Our linebackers will be better this year than last as we upgrade significantly in talent on the outside of the 3-4 scheme. We played over 22 guys last year on defense so the "returning starters" meme is being overplayed by clueless people. As for PSU, anything is possible I guess...but I don't believe we lose that one and I would be surpirsed if bama wins by less than a touchdown. Arkansas on the road scares me more than that game...if you want to talk football be serious or get lost.

José A. on 29 July 2010 - 9:13pm.

Bama 'backers in the NFL? really haven't been impressed since kevin greene. oh, wait, he went to that other hick school in your state didn't he?

pam on 29 July 2010 - 9:28pm.

I guess I am a lot less accomodating than some of my fellow fans. Coming on a blog dedicated to the Buckeyes and calling one of the most revered and beloved coaches in CFB history a "cretin" referring to the Buckeyes as the "Chokeyes" (never heard that one before), banging the 0-9 drum that has been beaten to death and then depending on the poster become all "Ohio State has a great program" I don't give a damn about 'Bama and I really don't give a damn about Nick Saban. When I come here I want to be able to read and comment about the Buckeyes, Jim Tressel or anything other topic pertaining to MY team and MY alma mater. Your "well wishes" don't ring of any form of sincerity IMO. To me you are just a troll with good grammar.

bamamatt on 29 July 2010 - 9:42pm.

I usually don't talk football with women but I know you Ohio gals are a pretty hearty bunch if you know what I mean. So for you, i'll make an exception. As far as I can tell this is a blog that requires no Ohio driver's license to post so I'll do so freely until I am blocked if I please. I came on here because I was interested in the depriest situation and I gave a friendly well wish to one of your pals on here which was met with a very rude response. No worries though...its an annonymous blog. BTW I worked with an alumni from The Ohio State University and she was as dumb as dog shit..could never figure out how she got a degree until now.

pam on 30 July 2010 - 9:56am.

Sexist and a troll. Nice

Brian on 30 July 2010 - 10:05am.

Well obviously I'm wrong since preseason predictions always pan out.

Brian on 30 July 2010 - 10:10am.

Funny that a Bama guy is going to comnet on academics. A shot at women, cool man, what kind of of people are you going to bash next?

cowboy on 30 July 2010 - 10:39am.

wow lots of comments/concerns about where a 17 yr old decides to go to college. I wish the kids would just decided where they want to go, call the coach and let them know. don't like all these press conferences and stuff. the big winner will be whoever gets Curtis Grant

bamamatt on 30 July 2010 - 10:41am.

Brian, I guess you are the resident "football expert" on this board?lol. As for academics, Bama ia a fine institution academic wise. Never forget that Michigan turns their noses up at The Ohio State University academic standards. Just playing with Pam...Here you go Pam since you never heard the "chokeyes" I will let you have one from the Auburn fans....Pay Role Tide!

pam on 30 July 2010 - 10:48am.

The funny thing is I know more about football than most men I know. Too bad ol' matt doesn't talk to women about it, he might learn something. The other thing I find funny is how many people claim to know, work with or live near tOSU alum that are as dumb as shit. The people that make those claims are either UM fans or SEC fans.

Brian on 30 July 2010 - 10:51am.

I never claimed to be an expert, just said preseason projections don't pan out a lot of the time. Don't know why your brought Michigan into the conversation, it's not secret they are a superior academic institution. Just as Bama is inferior academically to Ohio State.

bamamatt on 30 July 2010 - 10:51am.

Sorry Pam but you will have to skip this post because you don't want to read about Bama football....so stop reading.....NOW....ok brian now that I have that taken care of I will address your prediction of the demise of the Bama team this year...Penn State will beat us according to you....The Auburn fans are predicting the same....as are the Gators....LSU.....Arkansas....every once in a while an ole miss person comes along saying they have a shot....I guess that means the best we can do is 6-6 or maybe 7-5 if we get some breaks....What is the address of Coach Tressel's office....I will go ahead and have them ship the crystal football today...Oh and we will go ahead and show up for the Penn State game anyway....just for fun! Sure we could lose a couple of games but then again so could the bucks. I would say that Miami has a better chance of beating the bucks that day than PSU has against the Tide. Miami has a better team than PSU this year...but I am a realist and don't believe the bucks will have a problem...but anything is possible.

bamamatt on 30 July 2010 - 10:55am.

Maybe you do Pam...maybe you do....just busting chops. I bet you look very cute with the buckeye on your cheek on gameday! As for my presence here...I have certainly ingnited this thread...read how many posts it has relative to the other threads...iI bet the author appreciates the traffic....

bamamatt on 30 July 2010 - 11:06am.

Superior....that is debatable...but I will give you that according to rankings of that sort OSU ranks a little higher but it isn't like you guys are Yale or something...you are a state university just like Bama....just wanted to point out that no one views The Ohio State as an academic powerhouse so you guys can relax on the academic meme....of course preseason predictions don't always pan out....Ohio State could bust as well...but I don't believe they will....a disastor for them would be to lose 2 games...same as the Tide....My point is that you don't know what you are talking about and neither do some of the media types....They have 8 players returning on defense that either "started" or were on the field as often as the "starters"....we have others as well that were in the rotation....Bet you never heard of Jerrel Harris...don't worry you wll...We have 4 defenders on the preseason all sec team...that is a solid nucleus for a defense that has "question marks"

Brian on 30 July 2010 - 11:13am.

First of all, If I were a betting man, I'd take Penn State because I think they will make the game much closer than the line will be. I think they have a pretty good shot in that game, I do think they could pull the upset, but I never said it was a guarrenntee that they would win the game. I never said that Bama was going to have a demise, all I've stated is I could see them losing 2 games this year, and that the SEC could have a 2 loss champion this year and be left out of the National Championship game. So not sure where you got that I think the Demise of Bama will happen this year.

If you've read most of my comments I said no doubt Bama will be a good team, but that they may have some experience issues. I'm not naive enough to think that those 9 new starters didn't get playing time last year, or that they aren't very talented. Our defense probably ended up playing 22 throughout the year last year too. It's different when you all the sudden are "the man" as opposed to coming off the bench. So could they have a hiccup or 2 along the way? YES. Since Penn State is their first big game, there is a chance, Penn State could be the team that can beat them. I'm not predicting a Penn State win with ease, Penn State is probably going to be 4th best in the Big 10 this year, but they have a solid team and could surprise Bama.

Brian on 30 July 2010 - 11:16am.

Everything you say is right, you are from the south so obviously your team is always better and anything anyone says contrary is wrong. Thanks for correcting me and they media types(who worship SEC football by the way).

Brian on 30 July 2010 - 11:19am.

Never said we were ivy league, just pointing out that they are better since you brought academics to the debate to begin with.

bamamatt on 30 July 2010 - 11:27am.

Ok so Bama would be a preseason pick to finish 5th in the Big Ten? I don't care about point spreads....Bama will be a double digit favorite in that game...so I couldn't care less if PSU covers the line or not....Example of my point about returning starters....Courney Upshaw was not a "starter" but recovered the fumble against Texas with 2 minutes left...he was on the field during crunch tme and is also a preseason all-sec....Dareus is not considered a "returning starter" yet Kiper has him in the top 7 on his big board...I don't worry about the question marks with our recruiting machine...Last year our "big question mark" was our offensive line and we ended up with one of the best units in the country after replacing virtually the entire unit including two all americans....We are loaded for bear...I won't predict another unbeaten because of the law of averages...someone will get us...we have won 24 straight regular season games....but it won't be Penn State...you said all I needed to hear....4th best in the Big Ten is not making me nervous on our home field...which will be absolutely raucus by the way...their new qb is going to have a baptism of fire and they will not run on us. Our front 7 will be very physical and very fast.

bamamatt on 30 July 2010 - 11:30am.

Stop whining about the media's love affair with the SEC....4 straight BCS crowns is why they are talking about the league...Bama will finish in the top 5 and play in a BCS Bowl.

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