You're not really living unless you have or have had a "Tech problem". For the Texas Longhorns, it's all about their less-pedigreed kin in Lubbock and
according to emails sent from OSU president E. Gordon Gee to Big Ten commish Jim Delaney, Texas president Bill Powers would welcome a call to discuss said problem.
The emails were obtained under a successful Dispatch public records request for correspondence related to Big Ten expansion
1 and portray Gee as the Talleyrand-esque player we always knew him to be:
"I did speak with Bill Powers at Texas, who would welcome a call to say they have a 'Tech' problem."
And in an earlier email from Gee to Delaney, Gee correctly foresaw things accelerating in the expansion arms race:
Gee's initial e-mail to Delany on April 19 said that he is "of the mind that we control our destiny at the moment, but the window will soon close on us. Agility and swiftness of foot is our friend."
Delaney's response to Gee's first email confirms
Teddy Greenstein's April scoop that was widely ridiculed when it was thought to be bunk in the days that followed. The Big Ten is accelerating the process and given the
seismic rumors of yesterday, that's a good thing.
Hats-off to the Dispatch for getting their hands on the emails
2. I'd love to see a dump of all of the emails, but might have to wait until Sunday when they can go out with the Ricart insert.
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Love you, state employees.
And I agree completely re: the importance of traditional media. Takes traction to get that info, and print media, as floundering as they it may be, still has that traction.
In other words Jim, CHOP CHOP!
A move by Texas (and/or A&M) to the Big 10 would be like a big middle finger to the SEC! I say, Texas, Texas A&M, and Nebraska to the Big 10 making 14--- That would be great to have 2 big boys join the team and Texas keeps a rival.
aaaannnnnnnd they'd still be able to play the red river game because it's so early.
seriously i am sick of hearing about this nothing will happen till atleast 2012 so please back to talking of the usual... miller going to redshirt in 2011? and talk of scums greatest football coach ever the wiesel!!!!!
I would say that is incorrect. The teams that join might not PLAY in the new super-conference, but they will have to join soon for this to happen.
Better get a bigger bucket to boot in. This is THE story, m.i.c.
Wrong. There will be definitive conclusion to this by the latest, mid season.
USC findings not being released today....big suprise....
No way I want Tech. The Texas legislature will not allow Texas to leave without A&M. That's fine, I'll take the Aggies. But Tech is out in the western Texas and the population there is in the central and eastern parts. They don't care about Tech and likely will not mandate them to take Tech with them.
Tech without Leach is just Baylor without the Academics.
I still say we stay close to home. Pitt, Mizzou at first. Give ND another chance and, after they say no, flip 'em off forever. Go after Nebraska to make an even 14. Everyone could still play a couple of warmup games, a round-robin in division and a few out ot division games.
link?
never mind, I found it: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/f...
Seems sketchy, though, goodness only knows if it will come out today, next week, or ever.
I don't get why they are forcing Tech on anyone. Tech could still end up in the Pac 10.
no way... Texas is the big Prize--- not ND. Texas and Nebraska bring so much to the table that Pitt and Mizzou cannot.
The PAC-10 doesn't want Tech, it just is willing to take Tech if Texas comes with it.
I still think it will be Mizzou, Nebraska, and Rutgers for sure then figure out the last two among Syracuse, Pitt, Maryland, Notre Dame (they're in if they want in), and maybe, maybe, maybe Georgia Tech....I just don't see Texas coming up here...They'll be in the Big 16 which will be the pa
the pac 10 and big 12 combined basically giving a boot to Baylor, ISU, Kansas, K-State, Nebraska, and Mizzou
Hmm, some guy named Luke argues this very thesis in the forthcoming "BUCKEYE BATTLE CRY: 2010 - Edited By ElevenWarriors.com's Jason Priestas." On shelves in July. Pre-order today! /shamon
This is a very fine book. I suggest you all buy one for each member of your extended family.
I'd rather not expand if it means adding Rutgers, Syracuse, and Maryland. The big 10 would be considered a bigger joke adding crap than it is now.
Syracuse
Penn State
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Missouri
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
Kansas
Old Pac-8
USC
UCLA
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon
Oregon St.
Stanford
Cal
+
Old West
AZ
AZ St.
TX
TX A&M
OK
OK St.
CO
BYU
B16
Syracuse
Penn State
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Missouri
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
Kansas
The B10 wants NYC. I suspect proximity makes for more Rutgers' fans, than Orangemen, in The City.
The B16
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
UM
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Missouri
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
Kansas
Rutgers: DO NOT WANT
In your scenario I think that the OSU bracket would likely be the toughest. I see Nebraska routinely winning theirs Wisconsin. If TTUN becomes relevant again they should win theirs. I hope it doesn't shape up like listed. I'd hate to see Michigan have a stronger grasp on this cobference than they once had. I say we don't make it easy for them. In our bracket Rutgers may be the perenial bottom dweller but depending on what Kelly does with ND any of the three could take the bracket any year. Though, competition does produce a stronger team.
Agreed +1
*and wisconsin winning theirs.
better than getting Cuse though......
Not sure about that. The Basketball they bring would likely be better than anything Rutgers brings. Speaking purely about football you would be correct sir.
Braxton Miller's mother accused of assault, more to come.
better basketball for worse football??
I don't want this to be the ACC 2.0
I hope that wasn't the "family emergency" yesterday....
Hasn't Syracuse been pretty good at Football in the not so distant past? Rutgers has had one really good year and a few mediocre years mixed in. I'd take my chance on Syracuse's history, over Rugters who has about 4 seasons worth mentioning in their entire football history.
it's been about a decade
Our Dayton correspondent stepping up in the clutch!
They were, when McNabb was still in college...
mcnabb to marvin harrison..... so 10 years ago or so.
Will there still be a Big 12 after the Big Ten, Pac10 and SEC get done with them? Doubtfull. How many bowl bids does that conf. get?
Its true, sad story. Went crazy on her whole family.
http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/C...
Sad, she seemed perfectly fine during the press conference yesterday...wonder what spurred this
Damn bitch is crazy.
Ugh. The Pac is trying to move before USC completely collapses. At that point, there won't be a reason to watch that league. Hold out and see what the SEC can offer!!!
I would like KU to join the Big 10. First of all, I live in Kansas City and Lawrence is less than 20 miles from my house. I would buy KU season tix for that Ohio State ticket. The Jawhawks would boost the basketball in the Conference and the Football team is only 2 years removed from an Orange Bowl victory.
I hear that book had some mighty fine proofing done in said chapter.
The Big 12/Pac-10 merger makes a ton of sense...but I will be really surprised if Stanford and Cal sign on to taking TT and OkSt. The way they split up, it is effectively two conferences in one, with the old Pac-8 staying together and the 'Old West' (h/t SCARjoe)...that's about the only selling point I can see to making Stanford and Cal buy off on it.
What I can't believe is that the ACC is standing idly by, watching all this and not preparing for the possible fleecing of their own conference without making an obvious move themselves. If they were smart (and sometimes I wonder), they would immediately invite UConn, Syracuse, Rutgers and either West Virginia or East Carolina. It would establish the ACC as a big money conference by connecting BC to its old rivals and create that two conferences in one setup:
Old ACC (kind of):
Maryland, Virginia, UNC, Duke, NC St., Wake, Clemson, Va Tech
Old Big East (kind of):
BC, Syracuse, UConn, Rutgers, WVU, FSU, Miami, Ga Tech
You could put ECU in the ACC group and move Clemson down to the Old BE group if WVU is too much to stomach for the Duke and UNC types (and it might be), but I would assume UVa and Va Tech have to stay together. But no matter what, the ACC is missing out on a big opportunity here if they aren't thinking about these things. Also, what a great MBB conference this would be!
By the way, I still believe if the Big Ten truly wants the 'New York market', they do whatever it takes to get ND. ND would deliver that market long before Rutgers, Syracuse or UConn would.
Well, the SEC would OFFER academic standards well below those of Univ. of Texas, which will be a very compelling factor in the process. Also, the SEC probably doesn't want TT + TAM anymore than the BT does. That leaves the Pac 16, which sounds more promising in theory than it would be in reality, but then UT (fighting B12 revenue sharing) and the Texas legislature will have only themselves to blame.
I agree the Pac 16 conceot makes lots of LOGICAL sense, but it wouldn't strengthen the Pac's financial position on a per-instution basis. They would be going from dividing 10 pie slices to 16 on the assumption that a Pac 16 Network would be able to muscle its way to relevance like the BT Network did. Let's keep in mind that it was touch-and-go for the BT Network for a year or so, and the BTN had more loyal, lucrative college sports markets compared to west coast. Would Texas insist on keeping their own big share as a condition of Pac 16 membership? Even if they don't, throw OKSt, TT, TAM, Colo in the mix - not that enticing. Meanwhile, you can sell Fox Sports in the BT, SEC, ACC, BE markets - you can't sell the Pac 16 Network, though.
Similar principles apply to ACC: sure they expand, but they'll lose by addition on a per-institution basis. They're already struggling enough with their 12 pie pieces. Good luck with 14 or 16.
To clarify: the Pac 16 would have a strong population base, which appears attractive, but their strongest base for a potential Pac 16 Network would be Texas. Outside Texas, you're trying to sell 24 hrs. of Stanford, UCLA, CAL, etc. to cable companies at high rates, then the cable companies would have to offer it as regular programming in markets where the base of support might be good in total numbers, but very poor on a per household basis. In contrast, selling 24 hrs of BT in Ohio to the average viewer/provider is much easier.
At least she didn't sleep with Delonte West......
ALL STANFORD ALL THE TIME!! THE PAC47 NETWORK!
Getting bigger and better and so forth.
wonderful.... she has a mental illness. Sad for Braxton... I hope she doesnt want to start a rap career.
Or ill. Having someone in my family that has been in and out of pyschiatric hospitals (and been arrested), I know about erractic behavior and how they can be fine one day and lose it the next. Ususally it is due to the person not taking their meds. I hope she gets the help she needs.
Actually, it would acknowledge what is already true. The Big Ten needs more relevant teams on the national stage to get respect.
+1
Tim Spencer's kid committed today.
http://recruiting.scout.com/2/...
Nice pickup and a very solid week on the recruiting trail.
I can't see Texas coming to the Big10. The only scenario I can see at this point is the Pac10 moving quicker and pilfering first. We could still pull Nebraska, Missou & Notre Dame. Fulfills the 'big ticket' even though I personally wouldn't stomach ND being in our conference very well. I could care less how much money they can pull and/or how good of research/academics they have. Their football is like adding Indiana, only dillusionally more popular.
I would truly love to have Nebraska. Am ok with Mizz. When talking of strengthening the conference though, ND is hardly synonymous with that. Can see the punch lines now.