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#20 Ohio State
5-2, 3-1 Big Ten
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October 24, 2009 12:00 PM ET - ESPN —— Ohio Stadium Columbus, OH |
Minnesota
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It was quite painful to have type "20" next to Ohio State, but it's better than having to type the team's rank for total offense (91). Last week's loss to Purdue still lingers and it's been a particularly trying week, but that is a matter of the past and Jim Tressel's team can go in one of two directions: persevere on and use the loss to spring a final stretch run to Pasadena or crash and burn in the direction of the Outback or Alamo bowls.
Minnesota comes to town this week and the Buckeyes hold a 41-7 stranglehold on the all-time series match-up. The Gophers are solid dogs according to Vegas, but Tim Brewster's squad has a chance on homecoming if the Ohio State offense doesn't get something -- anything -- going.
The Gophers are not coming off such a great performance themselves, as they dropped last week's contest 20-0 at Happy Valley. Minnesota was able to beat Purdue 35-20 the previous week, but good thing the transitive property does not apply to sports, otherwise the Bucks would be in serious trouble. The Gophers will be fighting to stay in the Big Ten title hunt, as their 2-2 record has them in the middle of the pack, but in college football you never know how things will unfold with five games left to play.
The Buckeyes on the other hand, control their own destiny in quest of a fifth straight conference title. If the Buckeyes win out they are conference champions and would earn a trip to the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day. With the performance of the offense, winning out is a larger task than originally seemed a few weeks ago, though games against Minnesota and New Mexico State should give the Bucks a chance to fix up the unit before a tough November slate against Penn State, Iowa, and Michigan. We shouldn't speak too soon as last week's game is a testament to the theory of never sleeping on an opponent, but if the Buckeyes can't get things together quickly, they'll be smelling Bloomin' Onions instead of than the roses they seek in Pasadena.
Opponent
Minnesota's offense is lead by a pair of veterans in quarterback Adam Weber and wide receiver Eric Decker. The deadly combo has annihilated defenses this season as the duo has teamed up 47 times for 731 yards through the air. Weber is a very smart quarterback who has had a rather smooth transition from the Gophers' spread attack from last year to a more pro-style attack that Jedd Fisch brought from the Denver Broncos this season. Weber has only thrown for 1,325 yards and 6 touchdowns this year, but this can be partially attributed to his offensive line not being able to provide him with adequate protection consistently. Decker, on the other hand, has been producing stats like it's his job in 2009, as he has 5 touchdown grabs to go along with his 731 yards of receiving. Decker, a two sport athlete in baseball as well, is a tremendous athlete who is emerging as the conference's best receiver this season.
Decker's batting avg. approaching Pryor's completion %The Gophers have certainly relied on Decker through the air when they need yards the most, but bring a group of running backs that have been somewhat effective this season. Duane Bennett leads the team with 303 yards and 5 touchdowns in the early going and at 5-9/203 comes out of the Maurice Jones-Drew or Steve Slaton mold. Sophomore DeLeon Eskridge is the spell back for the Gophers and has contributed 220 yards and 3 scores on the year. These two backs should see plenty of action as Minnesota will likely try to get a lead and control the clock as opponents have attempted to do against the Buckeyes the past two games. While the combo in the backfield is far from the best the Buckeye defensive line has faced, they are certainly able to grind out some yards when push comes to shove in crunch time.
The Minnesota defense is the weakness of the team, a trait that can be attributed to thin depth. The Gophers have been outscored 163-162 by opponents this year, despite their winning record and are giving up an average of 23.3 points per game. They've given up 164.7 yards per game on the ground and 228.3 yards through the air, numbers that should help the Buckeye offense get back on track as they try to find their identity in game eight of the 2009 campaign.
The unit is lead by Lee Campbell who has tallied 77 tackles (eight for loss) and an interception. He is quite active in both the backfield and in the flats, and should be a name called often by P.A. announcer Bob Kennedy on Saturday. Fellow linebacker Nate Triplett leads the team with two interceptions and has added 71 tackles himself, making the middlemen a strength of the Gopher defense. The secondary is fairly weak, sans Traye Simmons, who jumped right into the Minnesota starting lineup last year after transferring from Junior College. Simmons has 23 tackles and an interception this season and the corner back has proven to be a leader for a veteran clad secondary. The Gopher defense should not underestimate the Buckeyes this week and the lack of production of late could be an advantage for OSU as Minnesota's coaches may not know what to prepare their team to see this season.
Buckeye Breakdown
Ohio State brings a 63-19-5 record on Homecoming to the table on Saturday, but they will need to up their performance big time if they want to avoid losing two straight games for the first time since 2004 (when they lost three straight to Northwestern, Wisconsin, and Iowa). The Buckeyes are 18-2 after a loss in the Tressel Era and will look to push that number to 19-2 this weekend.
If their fortunes are to turn around, the coaches will have to do something to help the meager offense along. The struggling unit is averaging just 157 yards on the ground (48th nationally) and 174 yards through the air (101st nationally). The key to the offense lies in Terrelle Pryor's hands and if the sophomore signal caller can put it together in his head and translate it to his arm, the Buckeyes will be just fine. That moment has yet to come yet and if there was ever a time for a player to step up their game it would be this week against a team he torched a bit last year.
This week?The Bucks will once again be without Dan Herron on offense, leaving Brandon Saine and Jordan Hall as the only backs who have seen action this season. Jaamal Berry is out again with a lingering hamstring injury and it seems he will likely redshirt. Jermil Martin will be the third back once again, but in a tight game, don't expect to see him too often. Saine's importance to this team cannot be overstated and expect Tressel to go to him early and often, as he will try to limit the number of times Terrelle Pryor has to pass the ball. Saine only carried the rock seven times in last week's loss, probably a big mistake as the junior was quite successful when running in the first half. It seems the coaches forgot the run existed once their lead was gone, straying away from standard Ohio State football. This cannot happen again, but it should prove a little harder this week with five of the top eight linemen banged up.
While it was thought that the defense might be enough to carry this team to the league championship, feelings on that front have chilled a bit. Do not take away anything from this unit's performance this season, but it was just not possible to endure the wear and tear they have the last few weeks and single-handedly win every game while the offense struggled. Ranked 9th nationally against the run (87.86 yards/game) and 37th against the pass (196.71), the Silver Bullets should still be a handful for a sometimes sputtering offense. The Buckeyes did make some big plays last week despite the fact that their front four was not able to get to the quarterback as often as in previous games, but were forced to blitz defensive backs, particularly Kurt Coleman, in order to create pressure in the backfield. The tactic did prove to be effective and if it wasn't for an overturned call on a phantom forward progress call after Coleman caused a fumble, the Buckeyes may have come out on top in West Lafayette. Regardless, expect Coleman to continue collecting footballs.
Prediction
The Buckeyes need to improve on offense and cannot afford baby steps when dealing with the development of Terrelle Pryor and the rest of the unit. Whether you like it or not, the Buckeyes are going to sink or swim with TP at the helm and the only way for this team to reach its goal of another conference crown is for the coaches to put the players in position to succeed. Growing up is going to have to come fast, and while there may be some pains along the way, the next two games against the Gophers and New Mexico State will be the Bucks' chance to seize an opportunity to turn the ship around.
Some expect the Buckeyes to come out damaged and play a lackluster game. Some expect the team to come out angry and explode on the Gophers, making it rain all over Tim Brewster's parade. It's certainly been a roller coaster ride this season and it will be interesting to see which team comes out to play this weekend. Vegas is calling for an 18 point game and we think they are right on the nose.
Ohio State 28, Minnesota 10






Comments
As per JT's presser related to the Buck's offensive identity:
"I think the biggest thing and the most obvious thing is, you cannot be wonderful, but don’t turn it over and you can maybe survive..."
Fine. So be it. Then freakin do that JT. Run the ball, play action, maybe even a few option looks. And a safe pass over the middle every now and then wouldn't hurt either to loosen the defense up.
As JT's has said, you have to do what's best for the team. Then that means running TP more, period. Forget trying to mold him in to an NFL QB. He's not going to be a QB in the NFL anyway, no matter how good he gets. (He'll be a damn good WR though...)
The safe pass over the middle really only loosens up the LB's who've been spying TP and shutting down the runs around end. Of course, a few deep balls would REALLY loosen up the D, but that wouldn't be safe TresselBall...
Shotgun 5 wide
Trips
Quads
Double TE's and throw to them
Bubble screens
Throw over the middle
Zone Read Handoffs, and keepers
REPEAT
I would spread the field!
We will need the O-line to have a much better game than the last two weeks, doesn't matter what offense you run if they can't block.
However, if they are going to keep blocking average then move the pocket like all the other teams in CFB.
If both MSU and OSU win out, don't the spartans get the rose bowl nod as the team furthest in time from having last played in pasadena? Or is that rule gone, in favor of the BCS comparative rank?
If Pryor could make a read downfield and the complete the long pass I'm sure it would happen more often. As it is I'll take 5 yard dump offs, at least then he might be able to roll outside every once in a while.
Agreed with the 5 wide. It may have been garbage time but do you think any corner is going to be able to stop Posey all game long?
Stay out of 1st and 15 or more.
If you win the coin toss freaking defer so you get that defense on the field lathered up and the crowd into the game.
Option pass to Posey, Option pass to Posey, Option pass to Posey.
Head to head tie breaker is above that one.
After the week that was, I can't wait to get this game started. I'd like to think it's one of those games where we just unload on every gopher we see and take out some serious frustration. We'll know what we're made of on Saturday for sure.
I absolutely agree on spreading the field. When the line is having struggles blocking, you have to spread them out and make them take some of the blitzers into coverage, then Pryor needs to find some quick reads (not lock in on one read, of course) and make some quick throws and let guys like DP and DC make some plays.
Go Bucks!
They don't play each other this year.
I'd like to see our offensive line not get stupid penalties and put a body on somebody to give TP at least the time for one or two reads. The second and third and longs are not helpful.
Durrrr...It helps if they play each other when figuring in the head to head. My bad. I would say MSU goes then, if they win out.
If ever there was a game to rebound with, its against Minnesota.
Smart Football Rankings predicts a big Buckeye win (24-10):
http://www.smartfootballrankin...
Big 10 Predictions for final standings:
Penn St. 7-1 (11-1)
Iowa 6-2 (10-2)
Purdue 6-2 (7-5)
Ohio State 6-2 (9-3)
Wisconsin 5-3 (9-3)
Michigan State 5-3 (7-5)
Minnesota 3-5 (6-6)
Northwestern 3-5 (6-6)
Michigan 2-6 (6-6)
Indiana 2-6 (5-7)
Illinois 0-8 (1-10)
Wouldn't life be dandy if we won out and played cinci in a bowl?
My hopes:
Win out
Beat scUM
WIN THE BOWL GAME!
Really? I thought the Tressel Ball passing game has turned into all deep routes, with no intermediate or short passing to speak of.
http://www.bigten.org/sports/m...
This is correct. There is no in-between. Either run Beanie up the middle or throw deep downfield.
I meant that's how it was last year.
Not to take anything away from what you wrote, but we've beaten and played Cinci before and their conference gets no national love. I would rather play a good program, with deep tradition and national respect than play Cinci.
Currently, Cincy has more national respect than we do. We might not gain much respect for beating them (the media will do their best to discredit a team we beat than credit us for the win), but might as well be the ones to bring them back down to earth.
RATHER BEAT AN SEC TEAM!!!!
O MAN WOULD I LOVE TO BEAT SOMEONE FROM THE SEC!!!!
That would pretty much make my whole offseason.
agreed
Maybe Louisville can do that for us.
Thats a BIG if.
About it being hard to typ "#20" next to Ohio State, Ireally believe nothing the Bucks do for at leats the next 5 years or so will be good enough. National perception really couldn't be any lower. Funny thing is there may be 3 or 4 teams who are far more dissappointing.
I'd just as soon beat a Big 10 team.
I love how everyone is so happy and willing to tell a 19 year old that they'll never reach a goal. Have you all ever had a goal in your lives? I don't mean to be a jerk, and i know it sucks to lose. But to say that there is no solution, and he should just settle for less than what you believe you can be is an insult not only to him, but an insult to yourself for believing in impossibility.
The journey to being great at anything is never a straight line to the top, even great companies have had years of mediocrity, and they found the answer. I hope that Pryor finds the answer, but I would never say that a college sophomore should abandon his dream because he falls in an embarrassing fashion. I think having that mentality speaks more to the life of the person saying it, than to the person that it's said about.
BTW, I love this site
Sorry, that was in reference to him moving to WR, or TE.
The good news is there will be chances to earn some cred back. Penn State, Iowa, to some degree Michigan and then a bowl game this season.
Next year it's the U early in the season at home in what should be a heavily-hyped affair.
Nice. So it looks like if both MSU and OSU win out, MSU will be 9-3 and OSU will be 10-2, and will get the nod to the Rose Bowl on the basis of it's winning percentage for both conference and non-conference games. Should be one of the most dramatic finishes in Big 10 conference in a while.
When Georgia lost to LSU sportcenter had a graphic saying that Georgia has lost to the last 5 or 6 top 5 teams they played. Then the host says, but there's no shame in that, as there were top 5 teams and they aren't easy to beat. I thought , this is not the same logic they use for Ohio State. I think Georgia is by far more disppointing than Ohio State and even this year where they aren't that good, people still have a better perception of them.
when was the last time you were nervous about playing Goldie Gopher? wow - the mess at Purdue lingers doesn't it? hopefully we get a good chance to right the ship tomorrow.
Buckeyes 24
Minnesota 3
Agreed...
The future is bright...! Sophmore slumps happen time to time.
I would say he deserves some criticism but so doens't the coaching,
o-line, and the unrealistic fans.
I am hoping to see a calm, aggressive approach to sat game, i would
love to see a stellar performance, and silence the critics.
But, i will settle for a balanced attack, with poise and composure.
I couldn't agree more!
Bucks' fans have got to let "national perception" go. first, the media hates everybody and does all it can to stir the pot. in doing so "two-faced" and "hypocrisy" are standard operating procedure.
second, just exactly WHO is national perception? will we be happy if ESPN praises us? Sports Illus? who is it exactly that we want to say good things about us and we'll be satisified? of course, the truth is that the media is widely varied and we'll never have 100% of the media saying nice things about us. ever. if we won a NC somewhere a media-nik would say it wasn't against a good team, or that team was hurt with injuries, or something.
we need to let it go. who cares what everyone else thinks? if somehow our natl perception were keeping an undefeated Buckeye team from the NC game while a three loss SEC team jumped us maybe we'd have a gripe. it isn't. in fact, I haven't even heard anyone say Iowa can't go because they're in the Big Ten.
in the end, if we win meaningful games against good opponents we'll get respect. and if we don't, we don't deserve it anyway do we?
I got
Pryor 18-28 217yds 2td's 6 att 64yds 1td
Saine 15 att 111yds 2 td's
tOSU 35
Min 6
Pollsters care what everyone else thinks. National perception affects the human polls.
We all know these people don't watch every single game, so when it comes to submitting their rankings they just turn to ESPN.
Who would we face? Who would you want us to play? I don't know much about the bowl process, but if we wanted to be matched up with an SEC team, wouldn't it have to be a middling one, like in the Capital One bowl? How much respect would we gain from that?
Unless we were to somehow sneak our way into the Sugar Bowl with an SEC team...
Whatever offense they ran in the 4th quarter should be the offense period. Hurry up offense is the way to go it keeps the defense on their heels. You have to throw to the backs and tight ends and make the linebackers atleast think pryor might throw it to them. That will open the run for pryor. If a team is going to cheat 8 in the box you have to test them deep. We have too many good wrs to not try down field with that defensive front.
This team should be avg 40 points a game if the coaching staff could just let them play. I'd even be in favor of TP calling his own plays.
You gotta give him a pick in there, c'mon
not even being negative, just realistic.
this scenario feels very michigan v. appalachian state.
nothing to gain & everything to lose!
DO
NOT
WANT!
He diff has a pick that is a give me!
(lol) i was pointing out the good things not that he will be sacked 2 times
and throw an Int
Pryor 18-28 217yds 2tds 6 att 64yds 1 td 1int 0 fumbles 2 sacks
If we don't make the BCS I don't care. If Ohio State plays LSU in the Capital one bowl and wins, yeah, I think they'd get plenty of respect. If we get into the BCS who knows who we'll end up playing this year. It could be the year we draw Boise State or TCU, and a loss to a team like that in the BCS would be much worse than making the Capital one bowl.
The worst for me was how USC was almost counted out this year in C'bus because of injury's. But Beanie's absence in L.A. last year was hardly mentioned outside of Buckeye friendly sources.
I really do believe Beanie would have made a big difference, not saying we win at SC, but defintely a better showing.
OSU has had chances to earn back respect, and we actually did vs. SC this year, but it's turd's like last Saturday's that spoil it.
I think even if we beat those teams, I will do more to discredit them than to earn any cred back. Like iball said, it's a perception about us that we could have only gotten rid of with a win against USC. All the more reason we need a playoff system in place. There'd still be something to play for this season. Win the Big 10, get in the playoffs, and make some noise. Would be awesome. Instead, we're stuck with what we have.
meant "it" will do more... not "I". I'm not doing anything to discredit them. :)
Thank you good sir, Im all about quality posts LOL
I think the gopher mascot should mock Jim Tressel calling plays with a head set and play sheet.
Yeah, I know, but it would be a top 10 team we COULD beat. Really, I was in a "went to bed at 1AM, was in the gym at 6AM/ half asleep" mood when I wrote. Really, I would love an Oregon in the Rose/ LSU or UGA in Cap One or Outback Bowl...would love to get the SEC Bowl Game monkey off our back.
OT, but I caught Herbie on the "Herd" today (did anyone go watch live? did you egg Colin?)...and he BLASTED the O-line (sort of in Pryor's defense) saying they are "big, fat and slow" and the most under-achieving unit in NCAA football...he kind of reminds me of Randy Quaid in Major League who has given up on the Tribe to the point that he hates them.
Why is Bollman still employed?
What happened to the advisor we brought in?
LeBron and Shaq both have Pryor's back. That's a pretty good support team.
My prediction: Pryor goes the F off tomorrow, and begins the drive to Pasadena!
http://www.daytondailynews.com...
Keith Uecker? I may be wrong, but I don't think he can actually coach per NCAA regulations.
It was basically putting a bandaid on a severed limb. Bollman should have been gone after last year.
Offensive captain for Minnesota: Kicker Aaron Pettrey.
You mean the media would act the way you Buckaroos do when you degrade every ranked team Cincinnati beats, all the while you are getting your backside handed to you on a platter by Purdue?