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11W Sneak Peek: Northwestern

Corey Wooten will miss LiC this year.Will Wooten live up to the hype?

We're counting down the weeks until kickoff by profiling a different Big Ten team each week. We decided to switch up the order to reflect 11W's predicted finish for the upcoming season, which can be found here and we'll also reach out to fellow bloggers for their inside opinion on important matters.

This week we take a look at a team that is off OSU's schedule, the Purple Mafia of Northwestern. Today we invited the fine blog Lake the Posts to help us preview the Wildcat team that is looking to improve upon their 9-4 season of a year ago.

After the tragic loss of Randy Walker, NU has improved in each of Pat Fitzgerald's three season and the way their schedule is set up, there is reason to believe for Wildcat fans that they will continue that trend in 2009.

COACHING: Fitzgerald has it going on in Evanston and the momentum is just starting to build. I asked LTP the importance of having Fitzgerald's stability at the top, after he signed his recent contract extension.

Hmmm...that's somewhat akin to asking what Coach K means to Duke or what JoePa means to Penn State. He is, in a word,everything to the program. Don't get me wrong, he's got a decade of bowl wins to go before being mentioned in the same sentence as the aforementioned legends, but he has quickly become the face of the program. There have been quite a few comparisons to the POTENTIAL of a lengthy tenure of Joe Paterno simply because he's the rare breed who was such a heart and soul of a program as a player and now, having the unfortunate circumstances(Randy's passing), yet fortunate experience (learning on the job at an extremely early age with little pressure), simply puts him in a position to put a hell of a run together.

The stability is already paying dividends as his infectious personality and refusal to make excuses for athletics, academics and character not being a top priority for every player is creating waves in places we're not used to - SEC country. Our first four 2010 commits were from Florida and Louisiana - and when I interviewed the head coach of Olympia HS (Orlando, FL) - home to two separate commits (Trevor Siemian - QB and Rashard Lawrence -WR) it was clear the 6A coaches (highest level) are all aware of Fitz and the positive vibe coming out of Evanston. It is truly impressive what he's doing to up the talent level at NU and win now thanks in large part to team chemistry.

OFFENSE: The Wildcats bring back 5 starters, 4 of them up front, off a team that averaged just over 24 points a game. Second year OC Mick McCall has to replace his top passer (CJ Bacher), rusher (Tyrell Sutton) and 3-best statistical receivers from last year and the returning talent hasn't proved too much in the college ranks.

Senior QB, Mike Kafta has the edge entering fall camp after appearing in 7 games last year, including starts against Minnesota and Ohio State. Kafta set a B10 quarterback record by galloping for 217 yards on the ground against Minny, while also connecting on 12 of 16 for 143 through the air. Kafta gives the Wildcats an experienced running option and showed improvement with his 69.6% completion rate last year, but he has yet to play a full season and you have to wonder if his passing can take this team to another 8+ win season.

Stephen Simmons is the lead returning RB with 178 yards on the ground, a far cry from the production Sutton has given them over the last 4 years. Simmons' size, 5'8" and 175 pounds, may play a role in his 2.9 YPC and the Wildcats will have to develop some backup talent if they expect to lean on any type of run game beyond Kafta.

The Wildcats could be even more green at the receiver position, lead by Hilliard native Jeremy Ebert, who registered 15 catches for 161 yards last year. He is joined by fellow sophomore Charles Brown and junior Sidney Stewart, who combined for 33 catches in 2008. The wild card though is senior Andrew Brewer, who LTP thinks could be the player we all know about by season's end.

On offense I'll go with WR Andrew Brewer. The former QB (he was Kafka's replacement as a freshman when Kafka got hurt) has been the Sidd Finch of NU WRs. The hype heading in to both of the past two seasons has been high, but he's been plagued with a series of injuries. He presents some tough match-up issues as he's a big bodied receiver with speed.

Thankfully for the Wildcat faithful, they do return 4 starters from the OL and get back the services of Kurt Mattes, who played in 12 games during the '07 season, but sat out last year due to an injury. They are a young group, with 3 sophomores in the projected starting lineup and only Mattes as the lone senior. This group must be allow the offensive unit some time to gel in their early season OOC game and must stay healthy, if NU is going to appear in another bowl

DEFENSE: The defensive side of the ball will with out a doubt be the strong point of this football team. They bring back 8 starters from a group that allowed just over 20 points a game, the fewest in Evanston over the last 7 seasons.

The Wildcat D-Line led the conference in sacks last year and are lead by DE Corey Wooten, who should push for All-Conference honors again, after earning a first team selection a year ago. The 6'7" 265 pound senior recorded 10 sacks and 6 TFL's last year, but tore his ACL in the Alamo Bowl and decided to return for his 5th season. They will have to replace 2 starters on the line, including DT John Gill, but the Wildcats gave up just 3.6 YPC last year, the lowest ever in Evanston and LTP thinks sophomore Vince Browne can help fill the void.

On "D" I'm going to go with Ohio native Vince Browne. Corey Wootton gets the deserved pub, but those in the know, know Browne is an absolute beast. He got dinged up a tad last year, but when he's going full throttle (simply watch the tape of him against Ohio U last year) he's got the potential to be a great one.

The linebacking corps returns MLB Nate Williams and Quentin Davie, both juniors who saw significant time last year. Williams got his chance late in the season and averaged 9.2 tackles when he started. Davie had 3.5 sacks and 6 TFL's from his outside spot and might have a chance for post season honors. The other outside sopt will come down between sophomore Ben Johnson and ND transfer Aaron Nagel.

The secondary returns in tact and could battle for top honors in the B10. Senior safties, Brad Phillips and Brendan Smith are the leading returning tacklers, with Phillips having the fifth highest Big Ten total last year with 109 stops. They will be joined by Sherrick McMannis and Jordan Mabin at corner. Mabin was a freshman All-American last season, while McMannis lead the team in balls defended. Fitzgerald brought in former Wisconsin DC Mike Hankwitz last year and it paid instant dividends. With all the retuning talent, this unit will be one to watch in the 2009 season.

KEY GAME: October 17, at Michigan State. Northwestern could open up 5-1 or 6-0, if they can take care win road games at Syracuse and Purdue, while taking home games against Towson, Eastern Michigan, Minnesota and Miami, OH. They miss OSU and Michigan, so a victory in East Lansing could put them in the top tier of the conference.

BEST-CASE: Once again we go back to the local expert:

BEST case is 10-2 although everything would have to fall into place. Realistic best case is 9-3 and anything less than 8-4 - with our schedule - would be a disappointment. Less than 7-5 would be disaster-ville. Our non-conference schedule is Towson, Miami (OH), @Syracuse and Eastern Michigan. We thankfully don't play "you" and unfortunately lose Michigan this year. We get Penn State and Wisconsin at home. Couldn't ask for a better schedule.

WORST-CASE: For me, this is one of those teams that could go 8-4, but just as easily could go 6-6 or 5-7. After the MSU game, they are home against Indiana, Penn State and Whisky, followed by road tilts at Iowa and Illinois. The schedule sets up pretty well for a successful season, but if the offense doesn't click right away, they could struggle starting in week 3. If the offense never clicks and the defense sustains a few injuries, NU will hoover around the .500 mark.

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BuckeyeChief on 23 Jul 2009 - 7:58am #

Sidd Finch, LMAO!

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BuckeyeSki on 23 Jul 2009 - 9:03am #

No Nerds on the schedule makes this painful to read........

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Josh_Alum on 23 Jul 2009 - 9:19am #

I've got a lot of respect for NU, but jesus we seem to play our best games up there. I can't explain it, it's always cold and windy, and all of a sudden we look like a top 5 offense. Must be some buckeye fans buried under the field from back in the day.

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iball on 23 Jul 2009 - 12:59pm #

Also, NW is usually terrible, that could be it. No offense nerds.

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Mike on 23 Jul 2009 - 1:08pm #

I love what Fitz is doing with the program. It's always exciting seeing a young coach who is such a part of the program's history and culture driving the team upward. I don't want them to ever beat us, but I'm rooting for the nerds in every other game this year.

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Bobby Hull Wannabe on 23 Jul 2009 - 1:16pm #

Onfield talent and good academics don't have to be mutually exclusive. NU's got a good story to tell, but until they can have a true homefield advantage, it's tough to see them consistently in the top tier. Chicago is a Bears town. Not like Columbutucky where every redneck can throw on a nut necklace and then burn couches/cars when they win.

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winteringand on 23 Jul 2009 - 1:18pm #

minus 2004

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buckeye on 23 Jul 2009 - 1:56pm #

OSU hanging 50+ on you year after year still stings, huh? Move along son, this is a website for schools with real athletic programs.

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BuckeyeChief on 23 Jul 2009 - 2:03pm #

Hey Bobby Hull, We're not all rednecks, so maybe you can find some other racial slurs to throw out there. I am Hispanic if that helps, and randomly throwing "Redneck" out there is a slur.

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Bobby Hull Wannabe on 23 Jul 2009 - 2:26pm #

And generalizing the NU fans as all nerds is ok then? Double standard. And redneck is not racial. Or at least never meant to be. Grow a pair.

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Bucksfan on 23 Jul 2009 - 2:57pm #

Bobby, Bears fans are one of the worst groups of sorry, sad, delusional, and violent idiots on the face of the planet Earth. I find your comparison mind-numbing. Just like a Northwestern fan to liken Columbus to Kentucky...which are 110 miles apart, and separated by a River. Better repeat American Geography 101 at NU. Meanwhile, we'll be buying our tickets to Evanston and prepare to kick your @sses up and down your own field while we chant O-H-I-O around your sorry excuse for a Big Ten stadium.

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Bobby Hull Wannabe on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:06pm #

I'm a Michigan State fan. And where did I compare Bears fans to NU fans? I just said they can't attract the local football fans in Chicago to see a game at Evanston. Unlike in Columbutucky where there is no pro football sports franchise.

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Bobby Hull Wannabe on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:15pm #

I'm sorry if I offended. I mistook this as a forum with people with thick skins. I love the Big Ten and it's constituents. I made a comment about liking what was going on in Evanston and you guys jumped on me for teasing you guys a little, yet you have no problem mocking NU's program. Sorry for sticking up for the little guy. I for one like NU in this conference if for nothing else providing a little diversity and giving us an xcuse to roadtrip to Chi-town. Once again, I apologize if my jokes were too much (I'd certaintly assume it gets much worse when Big Blue comes over here).

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pam on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:21pm #

And if there were, the 'Shoe would still have 105k on Saturdays. The lack of a pro team is not the reason the Buckeyes get so much love in Cols. No NFL team would want to compete with that kind of fandom.

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buckeye on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:44pm #

If you think Columbus resembles Kentucky, then you must not have been in/around East Lansing in awhile.

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Bones on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:45pm #

Chief, the word Redneck describes an attitude or person that is narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary. For example, someone from OSU claiming the NU grads and students are "nerds." As such, the term "redneck" as used by Bobby Hull seems appropriate given the current crowd.

Now on a second note, Buckeye mentions "this is a website for schools with real athletic programs." I ask you, what an athletic program entails? A program can only exist in an institution where there is a greater agenda. To speak to you so an OSU fan can comprehend, NU's agenda is to educate young adults to allow them to acheive there greatest potential in this world. In order to do this, Northwestern only lets in individuals that have proven their committment to higher academics and learning (see Jason Wright, Eric Peterman, and Patrick Ward...). OSU recruits kids that have no intention of graduating (see Ted Ginn, JR., Carlos Hyde, Maurice Clarrett, Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Kosta Koufas, BJ Mullens...).

I don't know why the NCAA continues to allow this type of stuff to happen. More importantly, I would like an explanation why the NCAA has not taken action against OSU due to the following:

Allegations Maurice Clarrett made and were supported by Robert Smith
Troy Smith taking benefits
17 of 57 credits that Sammy Maldonado accumulated at OSU being conidered "legitamate" by the university of Maryland upon his transfer
The illegal benefits given to Marco Cooper, Curtis Crosby, LeAndre Boone, Fred Sturrup, B.J. Barre while attending OSU.

You've got institutional problems associated with your so called athletic program. Clean them up, try to win without compromising the university, the state of ohio, or any individual associated with the "program." Then you can talk.

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BuckeyeSki on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:48pm #

MSU getting pounded by 35+ in their own house by tOSU.....now THATS funny

John L. Smith blow up at halftime '05....now THATS funny

Ringer getting like 24 yds on 86 carries against the bucks...now THATS funny

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Mike on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:52pm #

"Redneck" actually is a slur against working class men of scotch-irish descent. You don't call a hispanic guy or a black guy a redneck. It has to be someone who is pale enough to burn.

It's just a much more politically accepted slur than most :)

Not that I fucking care what you call me.

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buckeye on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:54pm #

I always find it amusing when some dolt selectively chooses some "facts" that he reads on the internet in an effort to support his conclusion that OSU has institutional problems, all the while ignoring the results of the NCAA investigation into the same. Keep trying.

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Bones on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:55pm #

Don't back down to the rednecks EVER.

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BuckeyeSki on 23 Jul 2009 - 3:57pm #

Dantonio picked up something in Columbus that he'll NEVER get in East Lansing....a crystal ball.........

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Bones on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:01pm #

What you call "finding stuff on the internet," is what people in the real world call "research." I know you don't have to do a lot of stuff like that where you work. OSU has found away to get by the NCAA investigations. Must have some good lawyers doing your laundry. Personally, I'm shocked an NU grad would do that for you.

Also, what's a "dolt." It's an Old English word for a foolish, but I doubt you know that.

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A Bag of Doritos on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:03pm #

congratulations, you've pointed out the hypocrisy of the NCAA! you are the first one to the party! the punch is to your right and the exit is the back button.

also, you two are the first people to ever insinuate that the term redneck can be applied to anyone but a cracker ass cracker. the term's etymology is in describing poor ignorant whites, its current usage is in describing poor rural ignorant whites, and i am guessing its future is going to be in describing poor rural whites...unless of course african and latino populations learn how to get some bright red sun burn on their necks from doing some back-breaking physical labor under the sun or asians start being stereotyped as ignorant and lacking intellectual curiosity.

PS - good lord you are a douchebag.

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A Bag of Doritos on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:06pm #

is there not a law of the internets that says when you call out someone else's grammar that you inevitably make a mistake yourself?

....foolish is an adjective not a noun. you can't be "a foolish"

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BuckeyeChief on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:10pm #

Do we all call them "nerds"? I don't, and BTW, if we all did, Craig Krenzel would fit the bill. So I don't have thick skin because you use racial slurs? I know the definition of the word and it's origins, and I also know people use it as a SLUR. Talking trash about beating us in 04 and taking our Rose Bowl trip away back in the day is one thing, but throwing around slurs to down a whole fan base? Pure genius.
Maybe you can point out that some of us call out SEC fans and the like on their educational system, and reference old posts. That would be awesome.

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BuckeyeChief on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:11pm #

Big Blue= NY Giants
Go Blue= Michigan Wolverines

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Bones on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:19pm #

Did I ever say that redneck was not a racial slur? What I said was redneck refered to someone who is "narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary." When you dubbed NU fans as "nerds" you were being narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary. As a result, you a result you are a "redneck."

For below, don't give me the Craig Krenzel excuse. He got a 3.97 in molecular biology, but he also got better grades due to his affiliation with the football team, and he got it at OSU. I'm not saying he's an embarrassment like the rest of the group, and he probably could have gotten through NU with some hardwork.

3.97 from OSU=2.0 at NU, it's called a curve.

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pam on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:26pm #

"OSU recruits kids that have no intention of graduating (see Ted Ginn, JR., Carlos Hyde, Maurice Clarrett, Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Kosta Koufas, BJ Mullens…)."

It is hard to know what Mo Clarett's intentions were considering he spent one season at tOSU an didn't not return after being suspended from the team for one year. There are quite a few kids that had every intention of graduating: AJ Hawk, Bobby Carpenter, Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurianitis, (both Jenkins and Laurianitis came back to school although they were considered high picks in the '08 draft)Troy Smith, to name a few. As for the BB players, that is on the NBA who made the stupid rule that a player has to be 19 or one year out of HS resulting in the one and dones which every major program has.

Did you not know that the NCAA did investigate Mo's allegations and found nothing to support his claims, in fact they called tOSU "a model of compliance"? Funny, it was all over the media except for ESPN of course who chose to listen to a big mouth, lying punk.

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BuckeyeSki on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:30pm #

BIG BLUE!!!!!!!

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pam on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:31pm #

Then join the Ivy League. Their football teams stink, but they are the only conference whose players can be truly called "student-athletes" Get off your high horse and stop comparing who has the better math club. NU does. Happy now?

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A Bag of Doritos on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:37pm #

did i ever say you 'said' redneck was not a racial slur? no, i said insinuated, which you did when you signed onto Bobby's use of the term. you lose.

also is your statement re Krenzel part of:

What you call “finding stuff on the internet,” is what people in the real world call “research.”

or speculation?

i am guessing the idle speculation of a friendless turd. but, hey, maybe i am wrong.

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buckeye on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:39pm #

Merriam-Webster's definition of "dolt" classifies the word as a noun meaning "a stupid person." Great research skills you have. Like I said before, keep trying.

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Corey on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:41pm #

Who hijacked my post? Remember to play nice around these parts, all opinions are welcomed.

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A Bag of Doritos on 23 Jul 2009 - 4:56pm #

how about them wildcats! and the guys at Lake the Posts!

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Mike on 23 Jul 2009 - 5:31pm #

Dude, get over yourself. I always see "Nerdwestern" as a term of endearment, being a nerd myself. It sort of sums up how they'll always have some trouble competing in football because the focus of the school is more on academics than athletics. Personally I don't think this is even a bad thing if no one takes the mess too seriously.

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iball on 23 Jul 2009 - 5:50pm #

I just said NW sucked at football because they suck at football. Then I said "nerd" and someone took it as a slur.

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buckeyebrowny919 on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:14pm #

FUCKIN' ANARCHY, bro!!!

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buckeyebrowny919 on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:15pm #

and i apologize for the f bomb...got into it a little too much

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Brian on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:19pm #

While you are lecturing us with you intellect could you please tell me if someone at OSU found away to get them out of it, or a way?

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Brian on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:23pm #

Well, he never said NU fans were nerds, he said no nerds on the schedule, I'd say that was refering to the football team. Anyway, I get to deal with plenty of Chicago people when the Cubs come to town and play Cincinnati and I'll say that Nerds may be part of the population of NU fans, but rednecks most certainly are another significant part.

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iball on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:25pm #

Now I am thread jacking:

I am sick and tired of all the sympathetic BS going out to Erin Andrews. Yes, it was wrong what happened to her, but all this crap about how no one sees her as a talented reporter and intelligent woman and she has been disgustingly objectified is just plain BS. The whole reason she got the friggin' job is to be OBJECTIFIED! You really want me to believe she's just better than anyone else at repeating information into a microphone that someone else has told her? Gimme an effin break, she's just a hot body for drunk dudes to look at while they're watching a game. It is what it is, just frickin' own it.

And yes, Ohio State is the shit at football. Go type a thesis paper on that, Nerdwestern!

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pam on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:43pm #

She lost any credibility which was almost nil to begin with, when she asked Tim Tebow if Superman wears his PJ's. I nearly puked.

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Poe McKnoe on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:43pm #

Hey, remember when Matt Stafford and #3 Georgia went down 31-0 against Alabama at home? I do, it's on ESPNU, and then Alabama got destroyed in the Sugar Bowl?

SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D-bags.

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pam on 23 Jul 2009 - 6:46pm #

'She lost any credibility which was almost nil to begin with, when she asked Tim Tebow if Superman wears his PJ’s. I nearly puked."

Some how this ended up under the wrong post.

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buckeyebrowny919 on 23 Jul 2009 - 7:01pm #

i am in love with Andrews...just thought i'd state that...although i did just regurgitate after finding about that Tebow/Superman comment...and her body...handcrafted by God and some special computer program

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Dozer on 23 Jul 2009 - 7:08pm #

I find this post hilarious. Of course we're nerds at Northwestern. Most of us are proud of that. Our football team are nerds. We're proud of that, too. Eric Peterman was an industrial engineering major, and he just signed with the Bears. That sort of thing happens at Northwestern ALL THE TIME. But you know what? It happens at other schools all the time, too.

I don't get why so many people seem to think athletes have to be stupid. The folks here who take offense at the term "nerd" to describe NU are really embarrassing me, because it's about time that we start acting proud of the fact that a bunch of nerds can finish the regular season 9-3 and come within overtime of beating Missouri. I've talked with a lot of the Northwestern players in my time as a student, in class or through the marching band (yeah, I'm a band geek). They're smart guys.

But what really hurts me is that it seems like OSU fans celebrate the fact that their players aren't nerds. Guess what-- some of them probably are. You don't think you have any nerds on your team? Of course you do! There are an awful lot of us in the world, and we don't all spend our time at the computer looking awkward.

Why celebrate ignorance? This goes for everybody. Accept the fact that some football players are, indeed, smart people, and that it doesn't make them worse athletes.

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Anonymous Internet Person on 23 Jul 2009 - 7:18pm #

Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the geeks, for they will inherit the earth.

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Sam on 23 Jul 2009 - 7:19pm #

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

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Luke on 23 Jul 2009 - 7:41pm #

I don't disagree entirely with his sentiment, but obviously I disagree with the rationalization. She may have gotten a foot into the industry as a result of her looks, but she happens to be fairly proficient at her job.

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BuckeyeChief on 23 Jul 2009 - 8:17pm #

Dozer, great post. I really wish you guys would've pulled off that Mizzou game and that we would've finished off Texas. Can you imagine the shit storm that would've caused for the big 12?

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Mike on 23 Jul 2009 - 8:18pm #

I dunno, she's definitely as famous as she is because of her looks. What do people think of when they hear "Erin Andrews"? They think "the hot chick on ESPN."

I don't know I've heard anything particularly insightful coming out of her mouth about football. She does the little personal interest stories no worse than anyone, but that's about all I've seen.

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Mike on 23 Jul 2009 - 8:19pm #

Of course, none of this means she deserves to have some A-hole posting naked pictures of her on the internet. But hey, welcome to celebrity.

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Sidd Finch on 23 Jul 2009 - 8:24pm #

Bring back Lisa Gurrerro (sp)!!!!

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BuckeyeSki on 23 Jul 2009 - 8:48pm #

I agree dozer...when I said 'no nerds on the schedule' it wasn't a slur or insult, just what I refer to NU as. NU being arguably the smartest/most prestegious (academically wise anyways) team in the B11. So what if you suck at football, right?

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Sam on 23 Jul 2009 - 8:57pm #

I just don't buy into this "SHE TOOK THE JOB TO GET OBJECTIFIED" garbage. How sexist can you get? Did Herbstreit take his job to get objectified?

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Bucksfan on 23 Jul 2009 - 9:27pm #

Actually, the term redneck was originally attributed to "country folk," and its name comes from the fact that they generally worked on farms - hence the sunburn and the possessing of a red neck.

These days it means hillbillies. Ohio has its fair share, but c'mon. NU is a great school, but Ohio State is a top-20 public school. No, it's no Northwestern, but it also has 40,000 more people than Northwestern. It's apples to oranges. Don't you guys need to do fairly well in analogies in order to get an acceptable SAT score for NU? Pretty lame for you guys to chant your righteousness when you've beaten us once in Evanston since, what, 1950?

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pam on 23 Jul 2009 - 10:02pm #

Pat Fitzgerald is one of the classiest guys in CFB. I wrote him a note a couple of years ago because I appreciated his commnets after the tOSU. They lost big, but he said it is always great to come to the 'Shoe. He wrote (handwitten) me back on NU football stationary thanking me for my note. I never expected that.

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iball on 23 Jul 2009 - 10:44pm #

I didn't say "SHE TOOK THE JOB TO BE OBJECTIFIED", I said the reason she GOT the job is to be objectified. Meaning looks are 99% of the reason she was hired.

Im sure there are plenty of other young women who have worked hard to qualify for a position in television journalism. But apparently ESPN was looking for someone more "UF dance teamish".

Quit fucking sugar coating it, and quit calling the wrong person "sexist". I didn't make the rules.

Sam, you are WAY off-base.

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Sam on 23 Jul 2009 - 11:21pm #

Of course her good looks helped her; she wanted to work in freaking television, after all. Looks also helped Herbie and Jesse Palmer get their jobs, but being qualified journalists didn't hurt. Andrews being pretty doesn't make her any less deserving of the respect and decency afforded to everyone else.

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Sam on 23 Jul 2009 - 11:25pm #

I mean yeah, duh, she's good looking, but that doesn't make what's happened to her any less disgusting or her situation any less pitiable.

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Sidd Finch on 23 Jul 2009 - 11:44pm #

Lee Corso is a pretty boy. It's the only reason he's employed now.

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QCWildcat on 24 Jul 2009 - 1:23am #

None taken.

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bup bup bup on 24 Jul 2009 - 2:48am #

sorry iball, totally agree with sam on this. it's tv, of course looks play into who gets hired where. but there's a huge difference between being subtly objectified by people at home in their living rooms and having some nut take video of you naked in a hotel room.

erin andrews isn't an idiot; i'm sure she was aware of the fact that people would be ogling her every time she's on tv or the field. but what happened to her was WAY over the line, but if you can't see that you're probably beyond convincing.

bottom line: just because her looks helped her get her job in no way lessens the shittyness of what happened to her.

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bup bup bup on 24 Jul 2009 - 2:50am #

i will say this though: you're a giant hypocrite if you're outraged by this but up until now every time she's mentioned you've gone "AW YEAH ERIN ANDREWS UNF"

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Bucksfan on 24 Jul 2009 - 4:54am #

That's tight.

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Bucksfan on 24 Jul 2009 - 5:01am #

Yeah, and that Georgia squad struggled with Michigan State, who the Buckeyes crushed in East Lansing as if it were the last football game they would ever play.

One of these days, Alice, one of these days...we'll get them.

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chuckr on 24 Jul 2009 - 8:18am #

ScUM fans don't come here often these days. Their fans understand that you have to beat us before you can talk smack to us.

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The purple people eater on 24 Jul 2009 - 11:23am #

This has to be the dumbest post I've ever heard. Let's stop embracing the "Yay, we're a bunch of huge nerds" mentality. Yes, nerds are academically gifted; however, they are also extremely socially akward due to spending more time studying, jerking off, and playing video games than doing group activities like banging girls and playing sports. While I maintain it's great to be intelligent, why celebrate being socially inept?

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buckeyebrowny919 on 24 Jul 2009 - 11:29am #

wait...did you just hit on herbie?

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iball on 24 Jul 2009 - 1:20pm #

What happened was shitty, and whoever did it deserves to be in jail. Thats not my beef. Jesse Palmer and Herbie played football at a high level and yes, looks were part of the reason they were hired too. I just wanted someone to acknowledge the fact that if you are given a job even mostly because of your physical appearance, then that is a form of objectification. I wasn't being sexist, I was being a realist.

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Juneau on 24 Jul 2009 - 1:57pm #

Nerd is not synonymous with jerking off and being socially awkward. We don't walk around looking and acting like Steve Urkel. Northwestern produces engineers, scientists, doctors, lawyers, journalists, actors, producers, speechwriters, politicians, and countless other successful and well-rounded individuals...and so does tOSU (though perhaps not quite as famously or often).

NU is a great school with smart kids and what has been and is once again turning into a reputable football program. If you want to jerk off all day and play video games, maybe go somewhere with less homework, because we don't have time for that shit.

Pardon my French.

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Juneau on 24 Jul 2009 - 2:00pm #

Also, since when is "banging girls and playing sports" the pinnacle of social interaction?

You forgot beer pong.

(But no really, if that's your definition of being socially capable, then good lord you're in for a few surprises when you grow up.)

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Scooter on 24 Jul 2009 - 2:18pm #

Or you can finish the regular season 9-3 and be the strongest academically and one of the top teams in football as well.

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Anonymous Internet Person on 24 Jul 2009 - 2:39pm #

"group activities like banging girls..."? WTF??

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Dozer on 24 Jul 2009 - 2:44pm #

purple people eater, I think you missed my point.

Of course Northwestern is a "nerd school." Why should I deny that? It's part of our brand identity. It's what makes us who we are. It's what puts us in the same class as Caltech and MIT. Why would we deny such a big part of our identity?

And why should we pretend that the nerdiness stops when you enter Ryan Field? Of course we have nerds on our football team! Does that somehow invalidate a winning season? We're nerds, and we still beat Ohio State in 2004. Does it not count because some of those players didn't go to the NFL?

There are plenty of athletes in this world who are socially awkward and aren't "banging girls," or if they are, it's after a fun and exciting night of watching "Doctor Who." They don't all go to Northwestern, either. I would be shocked if it turned out that there wasn't a single Trekkie on the Ohio State football team. Believe it or not, people can have multiple talents and interests. Nerd and football player are not opposites.

Nerds are a pretty big subset of the population. Statistically speaking, there's a strong chance that at least one of us ends up playing football.

Besides, since last November, nerd is in.

http://network.nationalpost.co...

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Dozer on 24 Jul 2009 - 2:46pm #

(And to clarify, because it was poorly worded: Going to the NFL doesn't mean you're not a nerd, either.)

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Joe on 25 Jul 2009 - 1:18pm #

"There are plenty of athletes in this world who are socially awkward and aren’t “banging girls,” or if they are, it’s after a fun and exciting night of watching Doctor Who."

New or old? Donna is the best new companion, and Sarah Jane is the best of the old ones. Rose must die.

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SEC on 28 Jul 2009 - 10:22am #

This type of statement is the same statement as: if she didn't want to have sex (be raped) then why was she dressing that way? Jesus get it together man. She does a great job REPORTING. That's her job to report the news, and not to give us insight into the game of football or basketball.

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SEC on 28 Jul 2009 - 10:41am #

Haha now she was put on tv to be objectified. Thats a classic example of what Erin Andrews isn't. Lisa was a terrible reporter but hot as hell who choose to do playboy. Completely opposite of what Erin Andrews is.

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