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Troy Open Thread

Onward!

After a hellish two weeks that consisted of moving, an ass-kicking project at work, an ass-kicking of my favorite team last weekend and my pets heads falling off, I'm ready to settle back in and hopefully watch the beginning of a new era of Buckeye football.

If Pryor does get the start and manages to play a majority of the game (or at least a majority of the game while it still matters), I have every reason to believe that his natural talent will make a lot of the other problems disappear. The line will start to groove, receivers will break open because of the pressure he exerts on defenses and the time he can buy in the pocket or on the run and the running game will positively blow up. Especially if the pistol/read option is run on a regular basis.

There is still so much football to be played and there's something to be said about the contagiousness a truly dynamic player brings to the table.

Outside of Pryor, are there any youngsters you've been dying to see more of on the field? What about the over/under on the number of Trojans in the flyweight category that have to be helped off of the field?


There's not much in the way of marquee Big Ten out of conference games this weekend, though Michigan State welcomes Notre Dame to East Lansing (3:30PM, ABC). Not exactly two Goliaths, but Sparty has a great chance to turn that "little brother" rubbish around by beating the team that waxed the Wolverines last weekend.

We'll also find out if Iowa is (somewhat) for real this weekend as they travel to Pitt. The Hawkeyes have taken care of business out of the gate, despite the turbulent offseason. It's a reflection of how far they've fallen since that Orange Bowl appearance that Pitt, sorry Pittsburgh, is a barometer game -- especially when you consider the egg the Panthers laid against Bowling Green in their opener. A noon start on ESPN2, this is the game you'll most likely be peeping during commercial breaks in the Buckeye game.

National games of note:

  • #6 LSU travels to #15 Auburn in this week's marquee game. Even with the question at quarterback heading into this season, the Tigers have pretty much smacked-down everyone they've played (albeit all warm-up games) and finally get their first true test of the season. If this game even comes close to living up to the drama of Matt Flynn's last second heroics last year, it'll be worth taking in. (7:45PM, ESPN)
  • Georgia fans will finally experience the thrill of boarding an airplane to go see their team play when they make the trip to Tempe to see their #4 Dawgs take on Arizona State. It's the first game outside of SEC territory that the Dawgs will have played in Richt's seven years at the school and was a topic of much discussion by fans of each school all summer, but the game has a lost a little bit of its luster thanks to UNLV's win over the Sun Devils last weekend. (8PM, ABC)
  • Daggummit's Seminoles host #17 Wake Forest and at least in the Coaches Poll, the Noles are ranked for the first time since they ran into Wake last year and took one on the chin 24-21. Florida State has feasted on two FCS teams (Western Carolina and Chattanooga) to get that 2-0 mark, but enter the game as underdogs. If your football coming of age years were the 90s, like mine, this is mind-boggling. But it's also a testament to the fine job former Ohio coach Jim Grobe has done at the school. (7PM, ESPN2)

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dave on 20 Sep 2008 - 9:00am #

Let the Pryor to Posey era begin!!

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flipbuckeye on 20 Sep 2008 - 9:21am #

I voted for Other in the poll. Ryan Pretorius will score first.

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Chris on 20 Sep 2008 - 9:32am #

Thank God it's finally "next saturday" so we can hopefully get the taste of last week out of our mouths. I guess that's the only good thing about the USC debacle compared to Florida and LSU - we don't have to wait 8 months to get back on the horse.

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Seth on 20 Sep 2008 - 9:49am #

It's actually Georgia's first trip west of Arkansas since 1967. Not kidding one bit. Nineteen sixty-seven.

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Poe McKnoe on 20 Sep 2008 - 11:12am #

flipbuckeye,

Offense stalls in the redzone and Pretorious gets the first points? I have no reason to argue.

It'd be nice to see the Buckeyes put up over 50, which should not be too tall of a task. Ofcourse, hopefully Troy doesn't score 50+.

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Poe McKnoe on 20 Sep 2008 - 11:15am #

Hey, remember when everyone was freaking out about Wisconsin almost losing to UNLV last year? Proof that the Big Ten is awful? Well they might be right, Arizona St (arguably one of 2 actual contenders for the PAC-10 title (haha yea right, someone besides USC?) actually LOST to UNLV.

Arizona also dropped one to New Mexico State...Now ESPN asks "How good is the Mountain West Conference?" NO SPIN ZONE.

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Kurt on 20 Sep 2008 - 11:27am #

Hahahaha, great point Poe!

That's right Jason, I hope to see what should be the turning of a page in Buckeye Football. Let's all hope that the catastrophe which was USC will turn out to have been the bottom of the barrel...

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Kevin on 20 Sep 2008 - 12:05pm #

Interested to see mroe of Pryor this week. Good luck against Troy Buckeye fans. I'll have to catch the rebroadcast of the game when it is on BTN as I'll be watching Penn State-Temple.

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Dan Isaacs (most of these were typed as lowercase letters.) on 20 Sep 2008 - 12:09pm #

Boom!

Let's see some risk taking on D!

Let's see TB holding a clipboard!

Let's see LBiC throw the ball 40 yards downfield!

Let's see Ray Ray continue to meet his freshman expectations!

Let's see Mike Adams @ LT!

Let's see a sack!

Let's see tOSU with more points than the other team when the game is over!

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ck on 20 Sep 2008 - 12:37pm #

I would just like to see some emotion in this game. I don't doubt we can win (hell, that's what we do - we beat the teams we're supposed to). But how we win is more important than the actual win. We need to get some swagger back.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:02pm #

I'll have a Samuel Jackson!

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:17pm #

Well that was nice. Two things:

1. LiC drops back for the 1st time today, and who do we see chasing a Trojan towards the QB? Ben Fucking Person. Deja fucking vu. He really, really sucks.

2. Boom looks better - much better - every week. Another reason to ask why he wasn't kept in the OU game to keep finding his groove. Yes, I know all the reasons why we had to play them all that week, etc...

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MSP on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:23pm #

3rd and 11, Ben Person sucks again.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:33pm #

Is it just me or does Robo really have a bum shoulder?

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:34pm #

Wow - even though that 3rd down ball was incomplete, you can tell already he's better than Boeckman AT EVERYTHING - at least the ball was thrown where ONLY Robo could catch it, instead of, well, you know, just ANYBODY when Todd flings it.

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MSP on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:34pm #

Thanks for the effort, Robo.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:35pm #

So, question...I heard the TV cronies float the idea that Tress was starting TP just to give TB a rest...What are the chances that this TP action is a one week deal? I'd much rather see him play for the rest of the year, but what if Tress is just letting his bruises heal for a wee? You know what, I'd rather not know the answer to that question. Aaaand, I'd rather see us stop their damn run game.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:36pm #

Sorry I meant 2nd down. I'm a little behind the action on the DVR.

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Poe McKnoe on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:38pm #

Hey we're on pace for 28 points!

Too bad Troy average 30-some against BCS schools last year...

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:39pm #

Lol, El Cab, so what you're saying is that Robo didn't catch that b/c he's totally not used to catching a ball in stride? That he's used t the jump ball, was waiting for the jump ball, was ready for the jump ball and SHIT TP THREW IT PAST ME NOW WHAT ARGGGGHGHGHGHG....

Aaaand we got a sack. Nice.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:44pm #

Jebus, how shitty/injured IS Robiskie, anyway?

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:52pm #

Can someone please match Pryor's effort on this team!

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:53pm #

can we carbon copy coleman and then have two colemans and no russels on defense?

the guy who dropped 40 gabillion INTs last year comes up with THAT?!

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GoBucks89 on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:53pm #

I continue to be unimpressed by the play of the seniors on offense. Now it's Robiskie with the mental error on going out of bounds on his own, not to mention the nonchalant one-handed attempt to catch that long ball from TP. Time for the young receivers to take over.

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harold on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:53pm #

Robiskie is not giving any effort and shold be benched until he gets his head out of his ass.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:58pm #

I swear the next person that says OSU is getting 'out of character' penalties is going to get slapped. We've been getting lots of dumb penalties for a looong time now. Just b/c Tress is squeaky clean does not mean his team plays penalty free. We get too many damn penalties all the damn time, and after awhile that starts to become your characteristic than being 'uncharacteristic.'

TP TD TP TD TP TD THAT IS SURPRISINGLY NOT ALL THAT EASY TO TYPE PROPERLY!

Brian H you are now forgiven for your dumb penalty. Please carry on.

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aaron on 20 Sep 2008 - 1:59pm #

was it a long ball or a catch and run?

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:03pm #

Aaron, are you asking how the TD came? I'm assuming here you don't have access to the game?

Rather than wait for the answer...TP sensed some edge pressure, stepped up and to the right about 2 steps, kept his head downfield and caught Hartline on the post, about what 30yds and takes 2 steps into the endzone. So, yes.

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Anonymous Internet Person on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:03pm #

LiC may never lose another game in college!

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MSP on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:06pm #

Any info? What is Small in trouble for this week?

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:06pm #

Yeah, I have no idea where Small is.

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Poe McKnoe on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:10pm #

Downfield. Downfield. Downfield.

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jbenz on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:12pm #

I also came here to find about Small.

I'd rather hear that he has a mild injury than hear that he is in trouble AGAIN.

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Poe McKnoe on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:17pm #

Good tackles...all around.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:18pm #

Teh awesome. And now the announcers are talking about how Troy has more speed than us.

aaaaand even though this has looked pretty easy, we're letting them hang around.

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KE on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:18pm #

I just this minute signed up for the BT Network now that Brighthouse is finally carrying it. It came on, and I got to see that miserable backfield work that led to a Troy TD. Maybe I should get my $1.99 back,

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Poe McKnoe on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:22pm #

I want to see some Lamaar 'Flash' Thomas...

Think we settle for a field goal? Uh, probably.

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BucksfanXC on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:22pm #

Meanwhile, NW is beating Ohio 9-0 heading to half. We might have to watch out for those Wildcats

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BucksfanXC on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:28pm #

16-0! Wildcats at halftime. Boy that makes us look bad

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aaron on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:29pm #

ya im in the army and not in the states and im an avid buckeye fan and no way to see the game

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:34pm #

I think you've gotta just tip your hat to that kid from Troy on that TD, it was a hell of a run. That's the hell of defending the spread, of course. Even the very best defenses will get burned from time to time.

It's also why DickRod's teams will very dangerous in a couple years.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:35pm #

whoops forgot the "be"

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chuckr on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:38pm #

The QB formerly known as Big Head Todd and the Boeckmans, shall now and forevermore be known as, Big Head Todd and the Backups!

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:40pm #

Aaron,

Where you at, who you with?

El Cab,

Yeah, it was a hell of a run, but we seriously missed 3 tackles on that guy from 3 of our best defenders-Freeman, Washington and Coleman all tried to arm tackle.

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chuckr on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:40pm #

Has anyone heard whats up with Small?

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MSP on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:40pm #

Good coaching having Dane Sanzenbacher (5'6"?) out there on that hail mary jump ball.

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aaron on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:41pm #

im with 2ID...stationed outta fort lewis, washington...but from what i understand it doesnt look like we are doing to good against troy?

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:43pm #

If there is a brightside... Pryor still continues to impress! If we couldn't say he was the real deal last week, he's definitly proving it now!

Halfway through his first start he has looked fantastic. He definitly throws the ball very well. He had one bad pass ( Come back route to Sanz - Part of the bad throw may have been forced by lack of a throwing lane though ). His only other bad play came at the end of the half were he tried to do too much, not to make another excuse for him, but at least he's showing effort!

I may being going out on a limb ( Remember this kid is a Freshman ), but I think he is slowly going to change this team for the better as we enter Big 10 play. He is simply embarrassing the Seniors as far as Leadership and Effort...There is NO way that they can allow this kid to simply look like our one shinning star!

On the other side of the ball, Hines continues to impress...I think he had every tackle in the first half.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:45pm #

I'm going to be very, very angry if Boeckman gets ANY more snaps today.

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Rob on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:47pm #

A. Russel must be benched. Horrible!

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:48pm #

Yo, Dirty. But that's what I meant about the spread - Freeman can't keep up w/ that kid and it all goes bad after that.

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flipbuckeye on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:52pm #

For anyone who can't watch the game like me, here's live streaming audio coverage (it's amateur radio but better than nothing):
http://sc9.spacialnet.com:2451...

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:54pm #

Aaron,

I spent a partial summer as a cadet w/ a 2ID bn in Korea, Camp Hovey. Good times. We look uninspired, I think, and even though TP has had some very nice flashes we're not scoring enough to keep this offense of theirs off the field.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 2:58pm #

WHO THE BLOODY HELL TAUGHT COLEMAN HOW TO CATCH A FOOTBALL???!!!

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:01pm #

argh punt. we HAVE to score, they are moving the ball on us awfully well.

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BucksfanXC on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:03pm #

Our D is again having to bail us out of close games

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:05pm #

Again, play calling is horrible! Pryor shows he can throw, but you don't call a pass play the entire series?

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:09pm #

dangit we cannot blitz for the LIFE of us. why can't we ever get to the qb? i've been moaning about how we don't blitz enough and play pressure D, but when we DO we get no effect...so why blitz? Omg...tackle someone on first contact!

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:09pm #

I don't know if our D is bailing us out. Troy's stupid mistakes ( A lot of them coming form the coaching staff ) is bailing us out.

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BucksfanXC on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:11pm #

Big stop!

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:11pm #

FINALLY an open field tackle.

JB, I hear you...Our D has a couple nice takeaways, but is getting killed on those screens. We have to make tackles at the point of first contact, and they're getting six, seven yards after contact. And our 3rd down defense has been rough too.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:14pm #

Yes more blitzes, yes better tackling, PLEASE. Is it me or does Malcolm seem to be having an off day? He's gotta jump on one of those routes sooner or later, no?

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:20pm #

El Cab,

Is he in a spot to jump that, or do they have him playing that off-nickel sort of spot against their spread?

Hey, look, TP makes an off-throw...but when you let a guy's arm cool down, that's what happens. How many throws has he had in the last 45 minutes?

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BucksfanXC on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:24pm #

We need to capitalize on field position. They are owning us in ToP

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:25pm #

I don't know, Dirty, that's why I asked.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:26pm #

Didn't we own some other team in TOP last week?

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Jason on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:26pm #

Posey time. Sending a message to the Brians, I hope.

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:26pm #

First play should be a shot in the end zone....

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MSP on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:27pm #

Nice pass and catch. Whew.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:27pm #

HA SECOND PLAY JB say it next time too, you're obviously good mojo.

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Jason on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:28pm #

Way for Robo to respond. And the above comments are on the money -- the Boeckman era at Ohio State could be coming to an end.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:30pm #

Wow. This kid is so, so good right the hell now.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:34pm #

lol, AWESOME TV work by the crew, with 1113 left in the game "We'll have to find out later why Ray Small has not been in at all."

You think?! It only took you 3/4 of the game to figure that out?

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CJ on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:41pm #

Where in the world is Ray Small ?

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:43pm #

There you go El Cab, Jenkins jumped one.

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BucksfanXC on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:47pm #

Wait a minute....where's Ray Small? I haven't seen him all game. He's nowhere to be seen, like a ghost or something.

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:48pm #

Ummm.... Who's Todd Boeckman?

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Jason on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:49pm #

Four TD strikes in his starting debut. DAAAAAAMN...

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Rob on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:49pm #

TDs not FGs. Nice! That's what elite teams do.

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:53pm #

Dude, Rob, this is NOT an elite team.

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Jason on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:54pm #

Not quite yet, but if Pryor gets his groove-on, they could become one in a matter of weeks. Madison will obviously be huge.

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MSP on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:55pm #

I like seeing Sabino in there mixing it up. Great hit earlier on kickoff coverage too.

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Jason on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:58pm #

Yeah, would have been great to get some of the freshmen in for more time against OU, but we'll take what we can get.

New poll up on the right -- may be the most lopsided results ever in an 11W poll, but...

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 3:59pm #

Jason, I agree that TP makes the dynamic of this team very different and can do a lot to 'make up' for bad oline play, but against an elite DLine TP would face an entirely different kind of pressure than he got today, and an entirely different talent level in the secondary. Just ask Troy Smith what playing against an elite level team is like in the MNC. And TP's presence does not do a damn thing to shore up our shoddy DLine play.

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:00pm #

I agree Jason... I said it in a previous post, but I really think that Pryor's Leadership, Effort and the sheer Energy he brings to the offense will propel this team back into an elite team when all is said and done.

You saw how well our D reacted after the first TD strike in the 2nd half. We finally have LIFE under center and I really think this entire team will "come to life" in Big 10 play!

4 TD's is great, but that lack of mistakes it whats so shocking! He came out and was cool calm and collected and really won this game for us!

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dirty6 on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:00pm #

Alright ya'll, nice hanging out with you today. I'm headed out, gotta make the drive back out to the country. Until next week...Go bucks!

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:03pm #

I agree with Dirty that this is NOT - yet - an elite team.

I also agree with Jason that they're getting close to being one. Camp Randall will tell all.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:03pm #

So long, Dirty.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:04pm #

Where's my buddy Tom?

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BC on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:05pm #

sounds like a great kid. Gonna be fun to watch him develop

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J.B. on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:09pm #

Exactly BC! His interview was as good as his performance! Not only did he do great on the field, but he is proving all the people that gave him bogus crap for his delayed signing that they didn't know what they the hell was going on.

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Deuce on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:17pm #

Does anyone know a site that shows extended highlights of Buckeye games?

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Jason on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:35pm #

Deuce, ESPN has some video footage with their recap:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/...

The Big Ten Network will probably have something up soon as well:
http://www.bigtennetwork.com

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Deuce on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:39pm #

cool, thanks man.

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Kyle on 20 Sep 2008 - 4:55pm #

Again the defense struggles, and with the spread. WTF? Wasn't that supposed to be our best unit? They need to have a players only meeting and do two things 1) IGNORE WHATEVER HEACOCK CALLS 2) get the fundamentals right and play like a warrior and just for fun GET SPIELMAN ON THE PHONE!

Anybody start firejimheacock.com yet? If not please do!

I do like what Pyror gives us. Kid is a straight baller. Troy Smith with height and a little more speed?

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Buckeyeblowoutwin on 20 Sep 2008 - 5:08pm #

Observations:
(1) Pryor is the real deal, but will still have struggles this year and at time this O will still be shut down.

(2) Defense still has major issues

(3) Major issues at WR still - nice grabs by Hartline today though

(4) Boom clearly gets the nod over Saine - only breathers for Boom until Beanie gets back, at which time Saine sits next to Mo Wells

(5) I do not like our chances at Whisky in all honesty. But, at least we keep it close, And who knows, TP could make it happen there

but we can still win the B10 with that loss at Camp Randall - who knows, maybe 7-1 in league and BCS bowl win and we can start to change conversation nationally about this team. these long off season conversations about our losses have hurt as much as anything, and having an off season of positive results to talk about can help ... lets get some positive momentum back

go bucks, glad to have a W today

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Jason on 20 Sep 2008 - 5:24pm #

Here's extended highlights from the BTN:
http://link.brightcove.com/ser...

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Kurt on 20 Sep 2008 - 5:43pm #

Is anyone else disgusted with the play of Mr Laurinaitis and Mr Freeman?! I swear they have honing devices to search out their blockers! They just gobble up blockers, maybe they should've been tightends of fullbacks, I dunno...not linebackers who're supposed to be searching out the ball carrier!!!

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JMIK on 20 Sep 2008 - 5:47pm #

Two questions. Do we have a RG on this team? Why do our Lb's drop back so far on running plays?

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Tom Blogical on 20 Sep 2008 - 6:38pm #

Kyle:

Pryor is Troy Smith on bionic stilts.

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Brian Robiske on 20 Sep 2008 - 6:46pm #

Sorry guys, my shoulder really hurt today. I will try harder next week.

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Devier Posey on 20 Sep 2008 - 7:02pm #

Brian,

you are a pussy. They should play me.

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Jake Ballard on 20 Sep 2008 - 8:11pm #

Seriously, Brian you are a pussy. Throw me the damn ball. Or Posey.

Also, I have pretty hair.

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Alex Boone on 20 Sep 2008 - 8:33pm #

Once I get done with my post-game meal of five Chipotle burritos, I'm going to shave the word "Pussy" into your hair, Brian. I'm such a prankster!

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flipbuckeye on 20 Sep 2008 - 11:58pm #

After seeing the highlights, I gotta say Pryor's passing mechanics aren't exactly pretty but hey at least they result in catches that aren't INTs.

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Poe McKnoe on 21 Sep 2008 - 10:04pm #

This Ohio State team needs to file a report for Missing YAC. Yards after Catch. Hell, how about yards per carry. There is no space to operate. Even Troy can turn a short pass into a long gain. Ohio State? No.

Though Robiskie's 89 yards TD would have helped...o, wait.

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Chaoscrusader on 22 Sep 2008 - 4:16pm #

FYI - In reference to the picture, I do believe that is an AFV nocked out during the Battle of the Buldge with a German soldiers in the forefront in attack mode.

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