The Dirty Thirty…
Arrest them!… or what rival fans cobble together when they haven’t managed a win in the biggest rivalry in college football for 1719 days (and counting).
The scholars at Michigan Against the World have taken it upon themselves to celebrate the Worthington arrest by profiling all 30 arrests of the Jim Tressel era. Being Michigan men, their strength is shown exhibiting term papers instead of taking part in the great traditions we enjoy. Such as getting drunk and watching our favorite team beat down their favorite team.
They are kind enough to break the numbers down by year, which only serves to illustrate the fact that 23 of the 30 arrests came during Tressel’s first four years on the job — also known as the last four years of Cooper recruits filtering through the program.
They go to great ends to point out that Cooper, despite coaching for 13 years, had 10 fewer player arrests than Tressel’s seen in eight. This is largely misleading for two reasons. First, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that the players Cooper pulled in his final three seasons had anywhere near the character (or talent) of the players he recruited during his first decade. Then there’s the whole issue of rising arrest rates in general. I don’t have data available, but I don’t think I’m going out on a limb in assuming the Fulmer Cup of 2008 features a little more offense than a hypothetical Fulmer Cup of 1998.
But carry on charting, graphing and citing, boys. 30 is a long way from 1719.
(Via DDN Buckeyes Beat)
* A retaliatory list would be forthcoming if I didn’t have 11 kids to feed. Instead, all I have is this.
23 Responses
In sticking with your theme and the photo above. The number 30 holds other significance, it is twice as many rushing yards as Michigan had last year against OSU. 24 carries for 15 yards!
“But carry on charting, graphing and citing, boys. 30 is a long way from 1719.” Is one of the best lines you have had in a while.
Corey - 08/06/08 @ 3:10 pm - #
Its is getting pretty bad up north when they have to talk about off field issues. Maybe next they can write how their helmets are “the coolest”.
Tressel does a great job of dealing will kids that get in trouble. Every program has kids get in trouble, because boys will be boys right? I think they now have the coach that got pac-man’s career started. Had that guy went to Ohio State he would have been in trouble and it wouldn’t of been covered up.
tampa buckeye - 08/06/08 @ 3:27 pm - #
Was Maurice Clarett arrested before we kicked him off the team, or after?
Because I’m pretty sure that’s padding the statistics if so.
Jeff at The BBC - 08/06/08 @ 3:27 pm - #
Hey, isn’t West Virginia currently third in the Fulmer Cup right now?
Christ, the guy who recruited those kids must be a douche.
Jeff at The BBC - 08/06/08 @ 3:43 pm - #
If you can’t beat ‘em, make yourselves look stupid.
Spivan - 08/06/08 @ 4:26 pm - #
Well, a few points…
1. Arrests and convictions are 2 different things. There’s a reason why, in a job interview, you can’t be asked if you have been arrested.
2. I agree with Jeff, the stats are being padded with people like Clarett (and I don’t have time to fact-check all his other claims)
3. The article spends just as much time poking at OSU fans as saying anything relevant, so it’s hardly even worth the read
4. Google/Yahoo! and others use citation statistics, so every link to that blog strengthens their authority in the search engines’ eyes. Something to think about
Chadwyck - 08/06/08 @ 4:33 pm - #
One thing I did find funny about that page was this.
Seems even a die hard scUM fan knows they can’t beat tOSU.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/hlidd/michigancantbeatosu.jpg
(Go ahead and edit this post if you want the pic to show or change the link)
Spivan - 08/06/08 @ 4:46 pm - #
That’s a funny article. Shows that they are feeling a little inadequate.
however, the part I find insulting is the pic (looks like a prom photo) from TP with a 2002 Vette. the implication is clearly that Ohio State provided TP with the posh ride.
Please. Ohio State football has a budget larger that many developing nations. Don’t insult me with the idea that we would provide TP with a USED Corvette.
Dinger - 08/06/08 @ 4:50 pm - #
It’s like a little kid reaching for a candy jar…REACHING
- Apr 16, 2008 - There’s nothing figurative about Ray Small’s fall from grace — he wears it on his back. As part of his punishment for a mystery transgression, the Ohio State receiver this spring was stripped of his No. 4 and given No. 82. The mystery transgression was rumored to be bad grades.
Poe McDone - 08/06/08 @ 4:54 pm - #
I love it. They’re hate speaks volumes about how pissed they really are that they can’t beat us. This guy is a double serving of d-bag. scUM fan and Patriots fan. Really? Maybe it’s just a little crush on Tomy Brady. Either way, this guy score negative man points.
I can’t wait to see ol Dickrod rack up a dirty thirty(+) of his own in the next 5 yars or less. That guy recruits every thug in America. Just look at the current WVU roster.
secondly… anyone notice how many times he called OSU “Ohio” in other. Moron. Or maybe he just really hates the Bobcats that much.
Dave K - 08/06/08 @ 5:10 pm - #
Larry Harrison has something to show you…
http://media.www.dailycollegian.com/media/storage/paper874/news/2005/02/10/Sports/Michigan.Athlete.Charged.With.Indecent.Exposure-1558208.shtml
Loudon Peppermilk - 08/06/08 @ 6:48 pm - #
30 arrests since 01…pretty tame to PSU’s…what was it, 57 charges since 02? ATTN: UM blogosphere, please tally all D1A and study the found data. Honestly, I would be interested. I should mention that it is an enormous waste of time and nothing you ever point to that is backing for the “Miami of the north” argument, is strictly compensation for losing. If you honestly look at it, you will agree. Also, UM fans should brace themselves for a little “we must ignite this couch” mentality from their new recruits.
COB - 08/06/08 @ 8:11 pm - #
Not to defend the Michigan site, but Clarett was still on the team when he got arrested. His car was in the parking lot at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center and he called the police from a telephone in Tressel’s office.
Brutus - 08/07/08 @ 8:55 am - #
Brutus, was he arrested though? I thought the incident at the WHAC was just his car being broken into and him embellishing what was stolen. I could be wrong (I’ve tried to erase him from my memory) but I don’t think he was actually arrested for that.
Tyler - 08/07/08 @ 10:10 am - #
Isn’t this what “we” (some OSU fans) were doing to Michigan in the Cooper years? Just a sure sign of futility in the rivalry. Shoe, meet the other foot.
BrotherBuck - 08/07/08 @ 10:22 am - #
1719? Not bad for sq. footage on a doublewide!
bigeazy - 08/07/08 @ 12:50 pm - #
“Being Michigan men, they’re strength is shown exhibiting term papers instead of taking part in the great traditions we enjoy.”
And “you’re” strength is shown via incorrect grammar. Back to my term papers…
Chris - 08/07/08 @ 12:58 pm - #
Tyler - In April of 2003, Clarett was charged with lying to police about the value of the stolen items and was charged with misdemeanor falsification of the police report on the theft. Clarett pled guilty on Jan. 14, 2004, to the reduced charge of failure to aid a law enforcement officer. He was ordered to pay the maximum fine of $100 and did not serve any jail time.
Brutus - 08/07/08 @ 1:14 pm - #
Good catch Chris. Hopefully you realize that it’s one thing to not know the difference between “their” and “they’re” and another thing to have a grammatical error when composing at 1AM.
At any rate, it’s fixed now. May Shakespeare have mercy on my soul.
Jason - 08/07/08 @ 1:34 pm - #
I often hear people (Carson Palmer and Michigan fans) say that Ohio State fans are arrogant and crazy and they think OSU is the greatest place on earth. Now, I only graduated Cum Laude from college but last I knew, fan is short for fanatic and that definition is: an enthusiastic devotee of sports. With that being said, aren’t we only doing what were supposed to be doing? I was wondering what Michigan’s focus would be after losing Carr, now we know.
Lastly, I can’t wait to see their QB run the spread offense when his area of improvement is speed. Bucks 4 ever!
Carence - 08/07/08 @ 1:42 pm - #
Very true, Jason. Very true. I was just givin’ you the business. A little chin music about something that’s obviously trivial. And I’m sure Billy Shakespeare doesn’t mind, either.
(By the way, I actually spent a fair amount of time trying to decide whether it was intentional. I couldn’t decide whether it was a simple case of typing too fast or if you were deliberately “playing to type” by creating a beer-swilling, grammar-bending persona to contrast with the bookish, can’t-see-the-forest-for-the-trees UM student.)
Chris - 08/07/08 @ 9:27 pm - #
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