Carson Palmer Is No Fan of That Program
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While in LA for Matt Leinart’s charity bowling event, Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer stopped by KLAC and gave his thoughts on the Ohio State game and playing for a state that worships the Buckeyes:
I don’t watch what I say. I cannot stand the Buckeyes and having to live in Ohio and hear those people talk about their team it drives me absolutely nuts. Now we got Keith Rivers out there and we got Frostee Rucker we finally got a couple of other SC guys. It’s amazing to hear what those guys think about that university and what they think about that football program and Tressel and all the crap I gotta put up with being back there. I just can’t wait for two years from now when SC comes to the Shoe and hopefully we’ll have a home game that weekend and I can go up there and watch us pound on them in their own turf and kind of put all the talk to rest because I’m really getting sick of it and I just can’t wait for this game to get here so they can come out to the Coliseum and experience LA and get an ald-fashioned Pac-10 butt-whooppin and go back to the Big Ten.
Granted, Cincinnati has never been a Buckeye stronghold relative to the allegiances of other Ohio towns. If anything, it’s traditionally leaned to South Bend (though Tressel has had recent success in the Queen City). While Palmer won’t have to worry about too much fallout at the local level, what about all of the Buckeye fans in Central Ohio that are also fans of the Bengals? Does this impact your fanhood in any way or is this just a guy backing his school?
(Via DTI)
237 Responses
I’d like to see Bengals fans run him out of town.
They won’t, because he’s all they got. But they should.
Poe McKnoe - July 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pm - #
This isn’t standing up for his school; this is mindlessly attacking another one. He’s not defending SC, he’s just hating on us for no reason. My Bengals fanhood was dwindling anyway; this is probably the nail in the coffin.
Chris - July 20th, 2008 at 3:58 pm - #
Okay, I need a link to the real story or where that was printed. I can’t find it anywhere. That doesn’t sound like Carson at all - he’s one of the most vanilla QB’s ever. If you have a link to the transcript or something, please let us know. This could be mere propaganda.
Steve - July 20th, 2008 at 4:22 pm - #
I’ve always considered Cincy part of Kentucky anyway. I mean really, Ohio should by all means end at Dayton.
Spivan - July 20th, 2008 at 4:27 pm - #
I hear he sucks cock.
Bobbaganoochie - July 20th, 2008 at 4:42 pm - #
Steve, it’s real. You can listen to the entire Palmer segment on the Petros and Money show here.
Jason - July 20th, 2008 at 4:53 pm - #
Count me in the category of people who think Carson Palmer should shut his whore mouth. Cincitucky isn’t even part of Ohio and he really has nothing to complain about in that regard. It’s not like he lives in Dayton or Cleveland (though Cleveland obviously has its share of fans of other programs). Besides, isn’t he the type that lives permanently in California but has a season residence in the area where he plays? If so, it’s not like he’s hassled 365 days a year in a place where Buckeye fandom isn’t as strongly rooted.
Palmer really lost me on the “what they think about that university” comment. Ragging on the team makes me angry; ragging on the university of the American dream makes me feel, well, “stabby”.
If anyone needs me, I’ll be in my angry chamber.
vico - July 20th, 2008 at 5:34 pm - #
I’ve heard so many rumors about Carson liking dudes I’m starting to wonder if they’re all false.
poguemahone - July 20th, 2008 at 6:14 pm - #
thats fine probably upset he plays on the third or fourth best team in the state well maybe fifth if you throw st.x in there.
cummnatya - July 20th, 2008 at 7:33 pm - #
There are a lot of fans down here that are also Buckeye fans and I guarantee some of them have aren’t going to be thrilled that he’s referred to Ohioans as “those people”.
Brian - July 20th, 2008 at 7:54 pm - #
wow. way to be rational fellas. carson is a great guy, these comments not withstanding. I dont like that he said it, but Im certainly not going to cast him off due to it. when the buckeyes win, he’ll have to eat his words.
bc - July 20th, 2008 at 7:55 pm - #
BC,
I don’t like Palmer or the Bengals to begin with, so how would I be casting him off?
Poe McKnoe - July 20th, 2008 at 9:46 pm - #
Every year when the Bengals come to Cleveland Browns Stadium, the Ohio State Marching Band plays the halftime show.
I CAN’T WAIT FOR THAT GAME NOW!!!!!!
Jeff at The BBC - July 20th, 2008 at 10:43 pm - #
I’m throwing away my NCAA Football ‘04 now.
ShoeWorker - July 21st, 2008 at 12:02 am - #
Hey, thanks for the link. I thought when Carson said: “It’s amazing to hear what those guys think about that university and what they think about that football program and Tressel and all the crap I gotta put up with being back there” that he was referring to the SC guys who are constantly hating on Tressel.
But after listening to it, he was talking about what Ohio State guys say, probably because they have as much pride as any student and fan. And I can’t say I blame him. He’s not from Ohio, he says Cincinnati was somewhat of a culture shock to him, and we forget just how irritating we Buckeyes can be to others with the “THE OSU,” the “O-H,” the wearing our OSU jerseys if we know we’ve got a layover in Detroit, stuff like that. Of course we love it, but it certainly gets on everyone else’s nerves. I no longer live in Ohio, and when other people cheer for their teams, it irritates me a little bit.
I was ready to hate Carson, but after listening to him, it’s really not as caustic as it sounds in written form. He’s as psyched as we are about game, and he’s saying nothing different than if it were a former Buckeye living in L.A.
Who-Dey! And GO BUCKEYES!!! BEAT SoCal!!!
Steve - July 21st, 2008 at 2:41 am - #
I don’t care what you believe he meant to say… fuck that douche-drinker, and fuck you, too. I mean, really. Who gives a shit about what anybody from Cincy has to say. I spent the undergrad years at Miami U and had to deal whith some friends from the rat city. Nothing special about the area, or the people. So please, before you write it off as a local thing… get fucked. It has been pointed out, Cincy is home to the most imbred of Ohioans. If you have Molatovs, and find yourself in the vicinity, throw ‘em.
BABBAGASHUTTHEFUCKUP - July 21st, 2008 at 3:32 am - #
Carson should be smarter and realize that many of “those people” pay his salary by watching him and buying his jerseys. You can bet I won’t be buying any of his stuff anymore. He is in Ohio now not SC, so while he can feel anyway he wants to he needs to be a bit more diplomatic and then talk trash if
SC wins, privately to teamates, not publically where he might piss off fans. He will get some boos and see some signs b/c of what he said, and if he doesn’t play well it will be worse. Maybe he’s upset b/c the Bengals have been sucking it up on the field and the Bucks get better press.
JoseOle - July 21st, 2008 at 7:47 am - #
How dare Carson tell the truth about anything Ohio.
Elno Lewis - July 21st, 2008 at 8:01 am - #
I’m a life-long Bengals fan and I won’t stop being one just because one of their players gets his USC panties in a bunch. There are lots of guys who weren’t fortunate enough to have attended OSU and they are naturally jealous of our success. It’s understandable that Palmer can’t comprehend the intensity of OSU fandom, because in L.A. the fans are so dead by comparison. There is a reason why the old L.A. Coliseum is known as “the mausoleum”.
I doubt if this type of outburst would have come from someone like Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, or the Manning brothers. They’re too busy winning championships.
GoBucks89 - July 21st, 2008 at 8:04 am - #
Let me get this right, aOSU fan- Carson Palmer:
-is Gay
-Shouldn’t play in the state of Ohio
-Should be run out of town
Because he’s sick of listening to aOSU fans (like all of you, mind you) and firmly believes that his ALMA MATER will beat the Buckeyes?
I love it. You guys make a ton of sense.
I think I’d make fun of him for that tie before these comments.
My comments aren’t directed at EW’s writers…just those making the comments.
boilerdowd - July 21st, 2008 at 8:27 am - #
First let me — BITE ME CARSON PALMER YOU UNGRATEFUL SOB!! Next, I hope and pray for all the Bengals Fans who are also OSU fans to boycott games, stop buying merchandise, call and complain to the front office, etc…..
This guy has a good thing going in Ohio and he now he feels comfortable enough to run his mouth?? What a douche!! I hope he loses every game this year and gets run out of town… now we need to win this year and next against USC to shut this A-hole up!
Mitch G. - July 21st, 2008 at 8:39 am - #
He can cheer for his team all he wants, but he has to realize where he is. Just because he’s an SC fan doesn’t mean he should be insulting ohioans and OSU. He coudl have at least been a little bit respectful and said he’s not a fan, but he can understand their intensity for OSU.
Perhaps he should have thought of that before he opened his big mouth. Yes, we are a little crazy sometimes, but if you had any sense, you wouldn’t insult your own fans. There are ways to say things and remain respectful, then there are ways to flat out insult an entire fan base, he’s just too stupid to realize it.
I was never a fan of him anyway, and I”m sure as hell not ever going to be a fan while he’s on that team. He should be run out of town, I don’t care what his views are, he shouldn’t be starting shit in Ohio where many of his fans are OSU fans as well. Jersey burning anyone?
Keith - July 21st, 2008 at 8:54 am - #
So, the Bengals have a Buckeye hating QB and the clowns have a homophobic QB. I hate the NFL.
Eric - July 21st, 2008 at 8:55 am - #
He should have just been positive about his school and avoided needlessly attacking somebody elses. But hey, we can always use the karma.
Lee in State College - July 21st, 2008 at 9:55 am - #
Get-the-fuck-over-it! Seriously…have you guys ever listened to your own fans? Granted, USC fans aren’t much different (come to think of it, no fans of any of thr top programs are any different). Has anyone ever thought that maybe what he said was a dig at his own teammates? Even if it wasn’t…GET. OVER. IT! You OSU fans weren’t the most fun to be around in NOLA last year, in case yall didn’t know. And look how that turned out for you
BigTenaintshit(andbyassociationneitherisOSU) - July 21st, 2008 at 9:56 am - #
CARSON PALMER IS JEALOUS of aOSU???!!?!
Last time I checked, USC didn’t get their asses handed to them in the National title game two years in a row.
Not to mention, USC is located in a infinitely nicer part of the country than Columbus.
Also, USC doesn’t have mustached perverts looking at porn in public libraries.
Dave - July 21st, 2008 at 10:13 am - #
Could someone please quote a sentence where Palmer was either insulting and/or derogatory to Ohioans? Because I missed it.
He’s sick of hearing how great you think you are, as is the rest of the country. But it seems like many of you already realize this, so please remove the stick up your collective ass and quit bitching. I lived in Cleveland for 6 years, and the worst thing about living there was the OSU fans. And to disown Cincinnati and to be proud of Cleveland…well, that’s just fucked. The only good aspects of Cleveland are its cuisine, culture, and the Indians (but not this year).
Youarehomersofthworstkind - July 21st, 2008 at 10:21 am - #
It’s funny, his initial commentary, coupled with all of your incessantly idiotic responses just make me a bigger fan of a guy who I never really cared about before. Furthermore, the fact that aOSU fans disown the city of Cincinnati is really helping me look forward to a wedding that I’m part of in the Queen City next month.
Go Bengals!
Boilerdowd - July 21st, 2008 at 10:40 am - #
“Last time I checked, USC didn’t get their asses handed to them in the National title game two years in a row. ”
No, but they did lose to their vastly inferior arch-rival in 2006, thus robbing them of the chance to face OSU in the title game. Then they lost at home to a 40-point underdog last year, thus robbing them of another opportunity to play in the title game.
“Not to mention, USC is located in a infinitely nicer part of the country than Columbus. ”
I’ll take Columbus, thank you. I’ve been to L.A. and Orange County a few times. Nothing special there.
“Also, USC doesn’t have mustached perverts looking at porn in public libraries.”
So if some guy in a USC hat does something bad, that would make you disown them? Get real, sparky.
GoBucks89 - July 21st, 2008 at 10:55 am - #
Thanks, fans of other programs, for stopping by and acting like, well, what you imagine Buckeye fans act like.
Boeckman Fett - July 21st, 2008 at 11:02 am - #
Please. These comments are OSU fans at their finest.
SL22 - July 21st, 2008 at 11:23 am - #
He’s right, OSU is garbage. I think everyone is tired of hearing about them.
Andrew from LSU - July 21st, 2008 at 11:29 am - #
BigTenaintshit(andbyassociationneitherisOSU), I was in NOLA for the National Championship game…..LSU had their own loser racist fans to worry about there. They weren’t all bad, but they were screaming “You ain’t so good now that that (insert N-word) Troy Smith isn’t your QB and how is he doing in the NFL anyway?”
Dave, Dave you are correct, they don’t have “Also, USC doesn’t have mustached perverts looking at porn in public libraries.” Instead they have Matt Leinart having parties in his hot tub getting girls drunk who were clearly not old enough to drink.
Wil - July 21st, 2008 at 11:33 am - #
glad to hear carson palmer speak some true words. yes ohio state is an elite program an elite choke artist like oklahoma. if you dumbasses really want to run off a player who talks bad about ohio state(he is a usc fan for christ sake of course he doesnt like ohio state) youre more than ignorant. to those that are saying we pay this guys salary he should watch his mouth i say he pays his salary with his immense skill if you guys dont want to put up with his mouth then someone else will. Go Trojans Go Dawgs Go Palmer Fuck Ohio State
PS: Cant wait to see you choke away another big one
Peace BS all ohio state blog SEC is the fucking best and you know it
kyleuga - July 21st, 2008 at 11:52 am - #
KyleUGA - You’re grammar.. it’s.. it’s amazing. You inbred fuck. I’m pretty sure Deliverance wasn’t filmed in Ohio.
Joe - July 21st, 2008 at 11:56 am - #
Ouch- Truth hurts…
Truth - July 21st, 2008 at 11:57 am - #
Rewind…. Ohio State looses a ton of guys and makes it back to the national championship. Florida looses key guys and falls… not only falls, but falls to Michigan in the Bowl Game need I remind you? Yeah the SEC is awesome lets see how LSU is this year after loosing a few people. While your busy sucking during your lame rebuilding process, OSU is consistently in front of the pack.
This season we win it all and no SEC team will come close to stopping the Buckeyes.
BucksInsider - July 21st, 2008 at 12:03 pm - #
I played big ten football and i hate to say it but its not what the pac10 is. I know guys that play for SoCal, UCLA, Oregon and Oregon St.
LP - July 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pm - #
hey im a uga fan and we are not rebuilding. I dont like florida either but i do think they are far more legit team than you. my team is stacked and if you do get the chance to play us in the national championship it will be the third straight defeat for osu in the national championship at the hands of an sec opponent. We are better at offense and defense than you next year we return a premeir runningback and quarterback and most of our o-line including the young stud sturdivant. We bring back a handful of experienced receivers head by senior massaquoi and also have a potential impactfreshman receiver in AJ Green. Oh and the defense loses only two starters. And the people replacing them have a lot of experience. lomax wynn and marcus houston will be more than ample replacements for marcus howard. we lose johnson at safety but now start 2 5 stars in cj byrd and reshad jones. we bring back 2 cornerbacks with 2 years starting experience. We are stacked at all levels of the defense. we have an insane dt combo of owens atkins and westin. oh and our linebackers are better than yours (i know youre not gonna like this statement). yes laurinaitis incredible and freeman is a decent talent but what about that other outside linebacker spot i mean terry really or a young overrated moeller. We have two potential all sec and all american hopefuls in curran and ellerbe and dent in the other spot and this g.oup has depth too. Anyways how i see it my team is better in all aspects then yours next year. Not to mention florida is better than your team too. i mean do you really think all of those top prospect secondary players florida has are not going to be leaps and bounds better in the second and third campaigns. very few corners excel in the first year but they are often dramatically better each campaign thereafter. florida struggled because their secondary struggled and that was because they freshman and sophomores. The corner squad will be good at florida next year and that is the only weakness they are projected to had so florida has a much better offense than you and you have a little better defense. Advantage Florida. you know if ohio state played more than one or two hard opponents a year they might be better prepared for a NC.
kyleuga - July 21st, 2008 at 12:36 pm - #
LP - Though I respect your opinion and have no room to talk since I didn’t play BIG10 or pac10 ball, but I would like to know what you are basing that opinion on? Are you talking about talent? Atmosphere? Tradition?
J.B. - July 21st, 2008 at 12:44 pm - #
I miss the old days when folks acted like gentlemen, and spoke well of their opponents. The level of discourse in this country is in the sewer.
That said, Cincinnati doesn’t favor South Bend as much as it seems to favor Kentucky. And as a Steelers fan, I’m privileged to find anything Carson Palmer has to say perfectly irrelevant. Win something, then you can talk.
Joe Fox - July 21st, 2008 at 12:47 pm - #
Nice Kyle. Could your dad beat up my dad?
Greg Oden's Tonsils - July 21st, 2008 at 12:48 pm - #
How about this one…. Carson Palmer is a professional. Is that how professionals behave? Calling out Jimmy T? That guy just logged many miles promoting a book that’s proceeds go directly to an OSU library refurbishing fund just so our buddy would have a nice place to go ‘batin.
blahhhhhhhh - July 21st, 2008 at 12:49 pm - #
kyleuga, are you retarded? I’m just asking because I think it would be wrong to make fun of handicapped people.
But you are correct when you say “hey im a uga fan and we are not rebuilding”
You are definitely not rebuilding….you have to be a championship team to reload or rebuild…..Georgia has never been mistaken for a championship team. Enjoy living in mediocrity.
Wil - July 21st, 2008 at 12:51 pm - #
everyone needs to chill out, seriously
Bob - July 21st, 2008 at 12:53 pm - #
Where is KJB with his “LOUD NOISES” comments?
Wil - July 21st, 2008 at 12:56 pm - #
Waaah. I can’t believe you guys are getting worked up because a pro athlete, not tied to Ohio St., talks about how he dislikes tOSU. Get over it. I think you’d find a lot of people tired of OSU after watching them get doused the past two seasons in the BCS championship game.
Besides, Carson Palmer is a stud QB. You would be stupid to “get rid of him” because he dislikes Ohio St. That’s just dumb. But, considering the source, it would be appropriate.
Matt - July 21st, 2008 at 12:57 pm - #
RE: Kyle UGA…Who cares about UGA, other than you obviously. tOSU has a game with USC…this story is about a USC grad. The tOSU season is made or unmade by that game. Looks like tOSU does not actually have UGA on the schedule…turns out. So IF your team makes it through the SEC, awesome, talk to you then. If not, prepare another long-winded, off-topic and essentially worthless post.
Thanks guy.
COB - July 21st, 2008 at 12:57 pm - #
And what Palmer fails to acknowledge, in that limited Trojan mind of his, is that SC and their mostly bandwagon fans are truly insufferable…Living out here in L.A., you’d think that SC football was God’s gift to mankind…But just wait…The moment they go 8-4, all eyes will turn to the Lakers or Dodgers…
TJD - July 21st, 2008 at 1:03 pm - #
Wow, this subject touched some nerves.
CL - July 21st, 2008 at 1:10 pm - #
Can you just sense the fact everyone is hungry for football season? Carson shoots his mouth off a bit and it lights a fire storm of discussion.
I just want some live football to talk about.
Corey - July 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pm - #
Last time I checked the national championship runs through the SEC title game, not the Big 10 or Pac10. So suck on that.
I don’t blame Carson for hating OSU, anyone that lives north of Cinci is obviously a douchebag. The rest of the region knows it, so you guys should catch on eventually.
Willie - July 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pm - #
1. OSU has won more NC’s than Palmer.
2. Palmer leaves Steelers /Bengirls playoff game after going down like a girlyman.
3. Palmer’s mother dresses him funny. Who wears a searsucker jacket in this day and age as pictured?
Juannie - July 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pm - #
I’m sure Paul Brown (founder of the Browns & Bengals) & former Buckeye coach is rolling in his grave.
I wonder just how much money Carson’s big mouth just costs the Bengals? I for one, will now NEVER give a dime to anything Bengals until he is no longer with the team. I’m sure I’m not the only one & I will be rooting for them to lose every game he plays in in 2008-9.
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 2:13 pm - #
My mistake, he was a coach of the Browns, you know, the one that won them 5 straight championships & 3 of their 4 NFL championships.
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pm - #
Who cares?
bob - July 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pm - #
i mean seriously, does it matter?
bengals suck and if osu beats usc they’ll go to the NC game again this year, due to playing a cup cake schedule full of sorry ass non-conference teams and pathetic in-conference opponents.
college football is so f**ked up
bob - July 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pm - #
BWAHAHAHA! “me thinks thou doth protest too much.”
Is it too late to get rid of Ohio all together and just go back to 49 states? Indiana and Kentucky could use some more space set aside for their state-park systems.
texast - July 21st, 2008 at 2:24 pm - #
Willie, I have plenty of family who lives in SEC country and they are ALWAYS telling me how the South is behind when it comes to trends, news, and education. I don’t think we (people north of Cincy) need to “catch on” to anything. But here is some news for you “the war of northern aggression” is over, you lost…..it’s a shame that some of the kids that play for SEC schools don’t know that they would be treated equally (no matter their skin color) up here……sure everywhere has their ignorant racists…..certain areas in the south just seem to have more.
Wil - July 21st, 2008 at 2:26 pm - #
It is so nice to be hated by every other school and their fans. The best part is that because our school is so large, we have annoying fans in all parts of the country to make sure all of America is made aware of OSU pride. IDon’t forget people that fan is short for fanatic.
As for Carson, he is entitled to his opinion, but I have temporarily rescinded my fan status of the Bengals. His comments are the last in a long line of embarassments on and off the field. Call me when they fire Marvin and get rid of Chad and stop drafting loser scUM players.
Kyle - July 21st, 2008 at 2:30 pm - #
Wow, never knew Buckeye fans were a bunch of sissies. Someone speaks out against Ohio State and it’s like he ran over your dog. What a bunch of pansies. The dude went to USC and he’s speaking out for his school. I don’t see tOSU fans getting bent out of shape when their former athletes call out the UM program. But, I guess if I lived in Ohio all there is is tOSU so maybe I should cut you all slack becuase that’s all you have to look forward to in Ohio.
I’ve got family in Ohio, and I’ve always liked the place (outside of the horrendous weather and the insect infestation). I used to think highly of people from Ohio, this just shows me how wrong I was. Looking forward to LBJ leaving the state in a few years. He’s from Ohio and he doesn’t even want to stay their. I think that’s pretty much par for the course for anyone whose been outside of the state. Why stay unless you have too?
Trey - July 21st, 2008 at 2:30 pm - #
This is absolutely AWESOME. Thats what you pompous morons need to hear from time to time.
Phil Jones - July 21st, 2008 at 2:31 pm - #
I can’t speak for the rest of Buckeye Nation, but Carson sure put me in my place. Now I’m hungry for some John Morrell sausage because as Carson says, “It’s bigger than the bun.” Whatever that means.
Kyle - July 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pm - #
“The” reason Palmer spoke out on you Buckeye fans is proven in your comments here. For such a prestigous college, it’s football fans are nothing more than arrogant, delusional a-holes. I live in central Ohio and feel the same way he does. I can appreciate being a loyal fan; but you guys are ridiculous. You’re not “the” only college football team around. And when somebody speaks out on the Buckeye 24-7 hype that goes on during “the” fall you guys are so shocked and surprised, like everybody is supposed to respect you for just being “The” Ohio State Buckeyes. If “The” Buckeyes played a real schedule of non-conference opponents, people might have more respect for your program, especially since though “The” Big Ten is full of pathetic football programs any more. Wake up and earn it….
Todd - July 21st, 2008 at 3:11 pm - #
Carson Palmer’s win/loss record in NFL: 32-29
OSU’s win/loss record during same timeframe: 41-9
No wonder people in Ohio aren’t that impressed with you, Palmer. Win, then run your trap, not the other way around.
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 3:13 pm - #
If the Big Ten is full of “pathetic football programs” …
Then why on earth are so many big time programs LOSING to those same Big Ten Teams?
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 3:15 pm - #
Listening to Carson’s comments in context, along with the rest of the interview, you can tell that he was nudging his teammates a little. He was also on the radio with a big SC Alum and radio personality (Petros’ father is also one of the leading football alums around as far as activity); of course he talked a little trash. Being an SC man myself, I can definitely say that the Thundering Herd is absolutely ready and chomping at the bit for this matchup.
We should all take pride, both Trojan and Buckeye fans alike, in the fact that this is the only decent matchup in college football in the first month of the season. (I can’t say much else good about the rest of an early OSU schedule, its yearly romp through Ohio underlings). This sort of thing, the cross-sectional rivalries is what make college football so great. NFL fans would only be so lucky to have a match up like this with so much on the line in back to back years. Oh, that’s right, there season means nothing, just ask your friends Tom Brady and the Patriots. It’s going to be two great years of football.
If you are coming out to Los Angeles for the game this September, be sure to drop by the The Menlo Bar, on Menlo and Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., across the street from the Coliseum on game day. We’ll be there nice and early. Can’t wait to see everyone.
Fight On!
keith15 - July 21st, 2008 at 3:16 pm - #
As someone who was having a hard time finding reasons to continue rooting for the Bengals, I can honestly say that I no longer have any. Fuck Carson Palmer. He’s an SC guy, and I get that. I don’t expect him to like the Buckeyes but have a little fucking respect for the people who cheer for your awful team because they are, for the most part, Buckeyes. September 13th is a big game, and I expect SC guys to talk some shit, but don’t degrade the team, coach, university and most importantly, the FANS! Braylon Edwards hates Ohio State too, but I’ve seen him numerous times on the Best Damn Sports Show and he gives Ohio State respect even when talking smack. The hell with Carson Palmer and anyone else who is calling Buckeye fans irrational for calling Carson exactly what he has turned out to be, a dousche.
Tyler - July 21st, 2008 at 3:18 pm - #
Big time programs….. you mean like Appalachian State, right?
Todd - July 21st, 2008 at 3:22 pm - #
& Here’s something else about the uninformed people spouting off about Ohio State’s “easy schedule”: SOS ranking-
2007 #39, 2006 #35, 2005 #3, 2004 #9, 2003 #13, 2002 #23, 2001 #23, 2000 #3, 1999 #6. I would bet that there may only be one or two teams that would have better SOS’s over those years.
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 3:25 pm - #
Yeah, It must suck to be a Florida Fan. Florida lost to the team that lost to Appalachian State.
How about how Washington almost beat USC last year, but got beaten solidly by OSU? Do you think Texas A&M thinks Penn State is a weak program?
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 3:29 pm - #
Youngstown State, Ohio University, and Troy…hmmm. Well, I guess you do play USC too. I guess 3-1 non-conference ain’t bad.. especially when you are playing such tough competition.
Todd - July 21st, 2008 at 3:36 pm - #
Buckeye algebra —- who lost to who that we beat…
Todd - July 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pm - #
Sweet Christ the power of EDSBS! Has there ever been this many comments here for one entry?
I like having all these people from around the country coming here and telling us how insignificant OSU is. Then why are you here? I for one don’t care what some hotdog deep throat specialist has to say, but I do enjoy the scorn of the entire country. It let’s me know OSU is doing something right.
Greg Oden's Tonsils - July 21st, 2008 at 3:42 pm - #
[/shitstorm] now guys?
poguemahone - July 21st, 2008 at 3:45 pm - #
7 Bowl teams.
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 3:45 pm - #
“who lost to who that we beat”
TODD’s strawman tactic to make everyone forget that he was critizing OSU’s SOS.
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 3:47 pm - #
Buckeye haters are so clever. I know it never gets old to bash tOSU’s non-conference schedule (as EVERY Buckeye hater has proven) or the fact that the SEC is great (an original argument) and the Big ten is weak (haven’t heard that before) but I’m literally astonished they are now attacking the actual state of Ohio. Wow. That’s actually hilarious.
And I thought this should go without saying, but it doesn’t matter where you’re from, even if you are the president of Mensa, the second you use the word “ya’ll” your opinion becomes irrelevant.
Tyler - July 21st, 2008 at 3:47 pm - #
Ohio State is great program and I always find myself rooting for you guys against Michigan but let’s not get way ahead of ourselves. USC under Carroll have shown for the most part complete dominance in College Football. Yes they lost to a bad team like Stanford who they were supposed to beat but didn’t OSU lose to a team they were supposed to beat also. The loses were to conference opponents unlike Michigan’s loss to A-State last year.. Ohio State seems to back in to the BCS Championship year in and year out partially because the way the Big Ten set’s up they’re schedules mostly ending all they’re games around Thanksgiving. Like Michigan/Ohio State game is in November and the Pac 10 last games are usually the first weekend of December meaning USC/UCLA game is played around then so any loss or even a non-covincing win by Pete’s boys means the big ten winner might get into the BCS Championship by default. Because they did not play for 2 weeks and can only gain points and not lose any in the BCS Standings. Let’s make the Big Ten play there last game OSU/Michigan game in December on the same date as the final Pac-10 game. Also SC has year in and year out played a tougher schedule then most teams and they even play the tough games on the road like going into the SEC in the begining of the season and they undefeated in the last 5 years down in the south. Ohio state? Please they would not even dare play two tough out of conference games in the same year.. Like SC’s motto “Any Team, Anytime, Anywhere”
DodgerRob - July 21st, 2008 at 3:58 pm - #
Todd, some “Big Time” programs that lost to Big Ten teams in recent years:
LSU (to Iowa 2004)
Florida (to Michigan 2007)
Tennessee (to Penn State 2006)
Auburn (to Wisky 2005)
Arkansas (to Wisky 2006)
Alabama (to Michigan 1999 (?))
(that’s half the SEC - Vandy, Kentucky obviously have their own losses to BXI, I did all the counting for you, and you can thank me later)
Ohio State also knocked off defending champ Texas, Big 12 champion Kansas State, the 2nd most loaded Miami Hurricane team in history (Vilma, Wilfork, Andre Johnson, McGahee - all-pros up and down both sides of the ball) and aNotre Dame team that took the best USC team of the past 25 years down to the wire in South Bend. So yeah, the “elite team” argument is beating a dead horse. SEC teams, that’s another issue entirely.
poguemahone - July 21st, 2008 at 4:02 pm - #
ohio state sucks. they’ve proved it in the last two big games. SC will again show us what we already have seen time and again… that they are not big time caliber. period
mike - July 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pm - #
“ohio state sucks. they’ve proved it in the last two big games. SC will again show us what we already have seen time and again… that they are not big time caliber. period”
Proof that Mike is a Mensa member.
Tyler - July 21st, 2008 at 4:18 pm - #
How about they play the USC-UCLA game in Edmonton if you want the OSU-Mich game in December?
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 4:22 pm - #
DodgerRob, 1st of all Michigan lost points and dropped out of the #2 spot while not playing any games in 2006. 2nd have you ever heard the phrase out of site out of mind…..the people who play last have the best chance of making it to the game…..if they lose it’s they’re own fault….no Big10 team has lost the last game of the year and made it to the championship game….only Oklahoma has done that. 3rd the Big10 has already put in motion moving their games back so the last games of the year will be later by adding an off week back in…..so double check what you are talking about if you’re going to run your mouth.
Wil - July 21st, 2008 at 4:35 pm - #
Im just trying to stop the civil war. Just because Carson Palmer says something doesnt mean you should attack Cincy. If there is one thing that most Bengals and Browns fans can actually agree on, its that we both love the the Bucks!
BC - July 21st, 2008 at 4:56 pm - #
I think this is the most excitement about something Carson Palmer has done since he left SC.
Dinger - July 21st, 2008 at 5:12 pm - #
Dude this entire thread is hilarious. Thanks for the laughs everyone.
I don’t care if VY comes in yapping about Tennessee Vols. NFL is NFL and College is College. If VY dogs the Titans that is a different story.
Also I love how Poguemahon goes all the way back to 2003 and 1999 to find Big10 wins over the SEC. I don’t think anyone thinks the Big10 was bad back in 1999 or 2002. We think they are bad NOW as in the LAST TWO YEARS.
Volbound1700 - July 21st, 2008 at 5:13 pm - #
“I think this is the most excitement about something Carson Palmer has done since he left SC.”
It’s gotta be better than this:
http://www.trojanwire.com/football/carson-palmers-cornhole-classic.php
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 5:20 pm - #
BC, you took the words right out of my mouth. We’re all Ohio-ans here. I’d love to hear what Joe Thomas or Kellen “I’m a soldia” Winslow thinks of Ohio State…probably isn’t pretty. I can’t believe how flat-out mean some of you have been towards the Queen City. It’s not a trash hole, it’s certainly not Kentucky, and there’s a lot of Ohio pride there. They might be a bit of a rogue entity compared to some of the other major cities. But half of Toledo is comprised of Michigan fans, and no one claims Toledo is not part of Ohio.
Cleveland has no major college sports, so you hook up with Akron, Ohio State, whatever it might be. Cincinnati has UC, Xavier, Miami (even Dayton a little bit)…all are still in Ohio, and all represent Ohio in some way. The Cincinnati Reds were the first Major League baseball team. There’s Skyline Chili and Graeter’s ice cream, which gives it character. Just because it’s not rooting for Ohio State top to bottom in the southwestern region doesn’t mean they aren’t part of Ohio, and it doesn’t mean kids from Cincinnati don’t go to Ohio State…I’m one of them.
Steve - July 21st, 2008 at 5:23 pm - #
We think they are bad NOW as in the LAST TWO YEARS.
Then why doesn’t the SEC have a winning record vs the Big10 in bowls in THE LAST TWO YEARS?
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 5:26 pm - #
SEC vs Big 10 in Last 2 Years = SEC is 3-4 (0-1 in reg season).
How about last 3 years? SEC = 4-6. (0-2 in reg season).
If you’re going to say you’re an SEC fan & that the Big 10 sucks over the last 2 years, you should at least have the nerve to have a winning record against them.
TexasBuckeye - July 21st, 2008 at 5:46 pm - #
Ohio St. fans have been described as “hands down, the most insufferable pricks in the nation” Don’t ya’ll understand that outside of Ohio everyone hates you guys?
Brian - July 21st, 2008 at 7:18 pm - #
osu football fans > kentucky basketball fans
bc - July 21st, 2008 at 7:29 pm - #
Funny thing is, I really didn’t have to go back that far. I just didn’t include the pastings of Vandy, Kentucky, et al. and other bad SEC teams by the Big Ten.
poguemahone - July 21st, 2008 at 7:34 pm - #
i wish they had bcs games up north cause all those pansies in the sec would get their asses handed to them in this weather.
kevin - July 21st, 2008 at 7:40 pm - #
i’ve been a bengals fan for years, thought palmer might turn things around so i thought. then i hear his comments about osu,and osu fans. i hope someone breaks his other leg up and sticks it in his ass. wile he’s laying on his back BRUTIS can put his buckeyes (nuts) in his mouth. go BUCKS palmer and sc SUCK!!!!!!!!!!
brutis - July 21st, 2008 at 8:17 pm - #
Laughing my @ss at these comments. Carson hit the nail on the head about these toothless mofos. Did you recover from the buttreaming by LSU yet? Or the Gator @ss stomping? HAHA.
kongdong - July 21st, 2008 at 8:27 pm - #
Hey, before you call the S.E.C. pansies… maybe you guys should beat them at something first. Must be rough losing to the gators in 2 national championships and the another S.E.C. Lsu… better luck next year?
ha yea right. Lets face it, the way things have been going i wouldn’t count on it.
Bigten= most overrated league ever - July 21st, 2008 at 8:29 pm - #
All,
I am born in raised in the little river town of Cincinnati- had never heard of this site, but came to see what yall were saying about this. I have a few comments.
Firstly, no true Cincinnatian cares about Ohio State. That’s how it has always been. True you can encounter random transplants and band wagon fans occationally, but the all the college sports coverage and conversation in this town includes UC, Xavier and the CLOSEST Big Conference football and basketball program, Kentucky. Not OSU.
I think it stems from the fact that people here don’t care about anything that is going on in the rest of Ohio. There are major cultural differences, and these places really have nothing more in common than an imaginary state line that keeps part of the city as a technical part of Ohio (part of the cincy area is in OH, part is in KY).
Point of the story is that no one cares about this from actual Cincinnati. In fact, we think it’s pretty funny. Someone called the local sports guy Lance today on his radio show from Xinia (sp?) which i’m guessing is up in Ohio somewhere all up in a hissy fit about it and he though it was hilarious. If you are pissed about this you should be cheering for the Browns anyway… WHO DEY.
In the words of Cincinnati’s own sports talk king Andy Furman, “Just remember everyone, a buckeye is nothing more than a bald nut”.
KY8 - July 21st, 2008 at 9:25 pm - #
First off Tyler, if you’re going to tell people which words they can and cannot use, you may want to spell them correctly.
It’s Y’all. It’s a contraction for you all.
Also, that Mensa smack is sooooo fresh.
I have sweet visions of VY doing the Texas two-step all over the horshoe….at night.
And reading these comments reminds me of the many classless OSU fans outside the stadium that night. Atleast when y’all came to our house and beat us, we had the common decency (sometimes known as Southern hospitality) to say congrats and invite you for a beer at our tailgates.
My 61 yr old mom had a bottle thrown at her in the shithole that is Columbus.
Ah, those Midwest values.
Tyler'sDaddy - July 21st, 2008 at 10:11 pm - #
KY8-
Furman got fired over 2 years ago, so who cares what he says? and PLENTY of REAL Cincinnatians care about the Buckeyes. Judging by your name, I’d venture to say you are from Kentucky. Lord knows no REAL Cincinnatian would root for that Hillbilly outfit. But……I will agree, no big deal, and I cant wait for the Bengals to Stomp the Brownies this year. But I also cant wait for the Bucks to stomp USC and for Carson to eat his words.
bc - July 21st, 2008 at 10:11 pm - #
KY8 - You must live in a cave. I actually watched the Ohio State vs. Penn State game last year in downtown Cincinnati at a sports bar and it felt like I was in Columbus. There were tons of passionate Buckeyes fans there and it was a great experience. To make comments that nobody cares is ridiculous and completely false.
BucksInsider - July 21st, 2008 at 10:24 pm - #
105 comments!? What is this, MGoBlog!?
Poe McKnoe - July 21st, 2008 at 10:28 pm - #
LSU and Florida has 4 NCs lifetime, between them, Buckeyes HC Woody Hayes had 5 of his own.
OSU and LSU are 1-1 in their only 2 meetings. It not always as bad as it seems.
lsu/florida4ncstotal - July 21st, 2008 at 11:23 pm - #
I honestly don’t see why such a big deal is being made of a random Pros comments. Granted he’s on an NFL team in Ohio, but he both went to USC, and I sincerely doubt in his contract it requires him to root for the Buckeyes.
Gomer - July 21st, 2008 at 11:43 pm - #
This is pretty funny. Obviously all you OSU fans are already nervous about having to go to the the Collisium. When was the last time OSU even beat a big time program. All the Big Ten teams get hyped up because one or two beat up on the rest and then they get it handed to them in their bowl game. The last two years Ohio State has gotten killed in the national championship game leaving many people wondering if USC should have been in the national championship game instead. The big Ten is obviously overrated if anyone has watched OSU lose horribly to Florida and LSU while USC has pounded Michigan and Illinois (who OSU managed to lose to). Those games are perfect examples of what will happen to OSU on september 13
nick - July 22nd, 2008 at 12:25 am - #
Just being real. Carson was right. I mean OSU only plays 1-2 real teams a year.
Keep inflating your record and getting blown out in the title game…its cute.
Chad Johnson - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:13 am - #
aOSU, Jeffrey Dahmer’s original stomping grounds.
BuckeyefanAreCarson'sBitch - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:14 am - #
Buckeye murderers are weak. Name one of them that’s won the Heisman.
Orenthal James - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 am - #
yeah, i don’t give a shit about what carson palmer thinks about Ohio State. furthermore, i don’t really give a shit about what anyone thinks about Ohio State. drink all the haterade you want, it doesn’t matter. we’re going to be at or near the top of college football for a long time to come whether people like it or not.
bitch about the big ten, bitch about the strength of schedule, bitch about the NC’s, bitch about everything till you can’t bitch anymore. it doesn’t mean one damn thing, especially since we’ll continue to win virtually all of our big 10 games and most of our OOC games.
bup bup bup - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:47 am - #
Carson palmer is a douche so is everyone from cinci. The only person ive ever met is a bum just like the man behind center for the bengals team that just continues to circle the drain. Carson Palmer is the final bit of the turd we r ever gonna c from SC Carson said “Now we got Keith Rivers out there and we got Frostee Rucker we finally got a couple of other SC guys” ya nobody is ever gonna hear those names ever again int the NFL. This is just just a cry 4 help for him to get out of cinci the shittiest team in the AFC north - yes they r worse than the Ravens.
akrowdy - July 22nd, 2008 at 2:07 am - #
“Buckeye murderers are weak. Name one of them that’s won the Heisman.
Orenthal James - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 am - #”
My name is, Andrew Lee, and I’d kill to be OJ for a day.
BuckeyefanAreCarson'sBitch - July 22nd, 2008 at 3:06 am - #
Hey Nick…when was the last time Ohio State beat a big time program? They beat the Pac-10 champ in 2002, beat an all-time Miami team in 2002, Big-12 champ KSU in 2003, Michigan in 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007, Notre Dame in 2005, #2 Texas in 2006 in Austin.
There are more than 2 big time programs in this country. Do some research before you post an asinine paragraph like that.
Steve - July 22nd, 2008 at 4:12 am - #
This is fantastic!
I needed these laughs tonite.
Let’s get 1 thing straight. Cleveland is the most patheticaly boring city on the planet.
The reason SC fans are not as hardcore as osu fans is because we live in Los Angeles.
We have lives and things to do and plenty of extra curricular functions to keep us busy.
We’ve got Sunset and Hollywood, Venice Beach and Santa Monica, Disneyland and the studios, San Diego 2 hours away, Mexico the same, San Fran only 6, VEGAS only 4. We’ve got mountains and beaches and deserts.
And beautiful women. Many home grown, but we also get the best from the rest who have escaped from holes like Cleveland.
What does Ohio have? - Trees. Albeit pretty ones. But trees.
We live in a constant party. Unlike those who reside in Ohio, particularly Cleveland.
I understand why you are so die hard for your school. Because outside of that football team, there is nothing to care about in Ohio.
Well, outside of Canton and the HOF.
I sadly stayed in Cleveland once. Went to the hub of bar hopping activity in downtown on a Monday night.
1 bar open, less than 30 people inside. And this was the busiest spot! Found one other bar, maybe 10 people. Asked them where to go to have fun in the city. A girl yells out, “Go to a strip club.”
Freakin’ pathetic. I end up going to one cause I’m goin’ stir crazy in this town and I can’t even touch the girls!!!
They’re not strip clubs. They’re DON’T TOUCH ME clubs.
How do these places stay open?!
Cleveland, the worst town in existence.
I can go into any number of clubs in LA on a Monday night and find 400 or 500 people partying.
This is why osu fans act like coked up, rabid dogs when the spotlight points out all the deficiencies of its alma mater. You guys are going stir crazy and have only your football team for relief!
We Trojans simply laugh when you bring up Stanford or Texas. As if those games erase the 11 national championships, 7 Heisman trophy winners, 151 All Americans, etc, etc.
Keep it comin’. We can take it. At least when we lose a game its by 3 points or less.
At least we play good teams and not push over 1-AA’s.
And as for Keith Rivers and other SC players in the pros. There will never be an all home grown NFL team, so quit your whining and dreaming. Be happy you’ve got SC alum on your teams. They’re good.
The Bengals are lucky to have Rivers.
Just take a trip down to Canton and count how many SC players have their mugs busted.
Count ‘em- 11. the osu - 6.
As for Carson’s comments, the guy was in LA talking to SC fans and answering a question ASKED him.
He didn’t offer up the comments out of thin air. And he was simply venting about having to put up with the SC bashing he gets from osu fans.
Boycotting Cincy because of what he said? Are you for real? Blaming the QB for the team’s losing? Calling him a wimp cause he tore is ACL AND MCL, all the while still completing a 66 yard pass, the longest in Bengals playoff history?
Calling him gay? These comments can not be coming from college graduates, so I can only assume most of you can only claim denied applications to THE university and not actual attendence.
Hate USC all you want. We don’t care.
But don’t hate on a great player because he says he can’t wait to see his school beat your school.
What’s next?
Changing french fries to freedom fries?
Oh yeah, its Ohio. Should expect this way of behaviour from a state that would re-elect bush.
Fight On!
Oh yeah,
The SC song girls bury the the osu cheerleaders, the Bengals cheerleaders AND the Browns cheerl…wait, the Browns don’t have any cheerleaders.
That whole, no one goes out to party in Cleveland thing is starting to make more sense.
Not a single looker in the state. They all ran for the rays, the smog and the traffic of LA.
Ladies…Start your whining!
USCwillBEATosu - July 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 am - #
You do realize tOSU is in Columbus, not Cleveland don’t you? Wow, you can go to a club on a Monday night and there will be 400-500 peole there. That’s a positive why?
Sure, California has some nice areas. I bet you live in a house that’s worth $500,000. Very impressive. That same house here will cost $125000, and we won’t have to worry about it burning down in a wildfire, getting swallowed by a mudslide ore breaking in half by an earthquake.
L.A. A nice town if you want to riot and loot. A great town if you’re a serial killer. Nothing like the sunshine and smog of L.A.
At least they have a great pro football team………….oops. that’s right, they couldn’t support them. There is just too many things to do in L.A. to support the NFL.
Enjoy your life in L.A. until you get washed out in the Pacific when the state breaks apart from the big one.
MIKE66 - July 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 am - #
Carson is dating Johnny Bench.
Orlando C. - July 22nd, 2008 at 8:58 am - #
How pathetic is your life if you troll the fan sites of other schools looking to talk shit anonymously? About the time I think of posting on a USC, LSU or any other school’s fan blogs, I know its time for me to find a new hobby.
I can’t wait for September 13th.
Oh and Carson, I’m sure having realized he has stirred up the hornets nest of the MOST passionate and large fan base in all of sports, has backtracked and is now trying to play the respect card. Too late bro.
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2008/07/22/osu_fb22.ART_ART_07-22-08_C2_02AQHNP.html?sid=101
Kyle - July 22nd, 2008 at 8:59 am - #
“Not a single looker in the state.”
Funny, I thought there were more Miss Americas that were from Ohio than California.
Halle Berry? From Cleveland.
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 9:24 am - #
“But don’t hate on a great player because he says he can’t wait to see his school beat your school.”
How about I hate on him for being barely over .500 as an NFL starter? Nah, I am just hating on him for calling me “those people” & all of his other insinuations about me. It had nothing to do with the other comments.
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 9:27 am - #
“The reason SC fans are not as hardcore as osu fans is because we live in Los Angeles. We have lives and things to do and plenty of extra curricular functions to keep us busy.”
I have 6 children. How’s that for some “extra curricular function”?
So Carson just “got a little fired up”, eh? I guess we should just file this away with all the examples of former OSU players in the NFL who go on rants criticizing other college teams’ coaches and fans. Oh wait, I can’t think of any examples of that. Never mind.
GoBucks89 - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:03 am - #
“At least we play good teams and not push over 1-AA’s.”
Like Idaho (1-11)?
COMBINED RECORD OF USC’S OPPONENTS LAST YEAR:
77-86
COMBINED RECORD OF OSU’S OPPONENTS LAST YEAR:
88-76
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 am - #
most refreshing bash of THE Offender State I have ever heard!! your entire state is a fraud.
THE only reason you guys are so good is b/c there is no other relative college that plays football in your state. you are the only game in town! the closest thing to “competition” is Natti!
annoying wraps your fan base up in one word.
IMO, University of Miami has 6 national titles. not 5.
Beezer - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:18 am - #
“IMO, University of Miami has 6 national titles. not 5.”
http://buckeyefansonly.com/notcalled.html
Funny, the photographic evidence in the link above REALLY makes it hard to believe that anyone could question a PI call.
“b/c there is no other relative college that plays football in your state.”
There are more D1A college football teams in Ohio than ANY other state except Texas. Even Florida & California have one less.
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:29 am - #
Although all of this constant bantering is truly funny and I honestly believe most are doing this out of pure folly, eveyone must keep certain facts in check.
1. Attacking someones place of residence is the hallmark of a weak mind. Plenty of positives and negatives about anywhere you choose to hang a hat.
2.You can not call yourself a true buckeye fan , then turn around and attack Cinci folk. Being a true Buckeye means embracing all things belonging in the Buckeye state(yup- that river town is in this state).
3. OSU fans are similar to other rabid fans around the country, no need to apologize, and no need to hypothesize that the reason we love them is because our geography sucks. All school’s dig there local schools based on tradition, familiarity, and RESPECT. OSU is a fine school academically (as is USC, Michigan, Florida…etc). Which makes Carson Palmer’s comments that much more inane because…..
1a) Ohio people are upset with Carson because he disrespected US as Ohioans. If he doesn’t dig the OSU vibe that is no biggie (he IS from SoCo). But why refer to us as “those people” like we are the idiots of the valley? We simply have nothing to prove to Carson or anybody else.
2b) Carson’s classless comments can be illustrated by this point. Not only did he berate the fans in this state, he berated a bunch of young men between the ages of 18-23 trying to make the most of their opportunity to be scholar athletes. As a former college football player myself, I would think Carson would understand the pressures felt in a big time program…..and he committed the cardinal sin of being a fellow athlete….never attack the dignity of younger athletes. Hell, he probably hates all the high school players in the area too. Why, because they root for Ohio State? They’re not from LA. What is it Carson? You are truly a weak human.
3)c What does it say when a respected pro quarterback takes a shot at a quality man like Tressel that is trying to spread the word that football and winning are only one part of being a complete person on this planet. Tressels philanthropic works with Fellowship of Christian Athletes as well as the multitude of other organiziations should earn him nothing but admiration and respect. However, Carson Palmer respects no one and does not think before he speaks. Jim Tressel will be remembered for his legacy.Carson, what will be YOUR legacy? Did you unite people? Sad.
Lets be real, his comments were not the worst things ever said by someone on this planet. But to not support young men (in your profession) at any level is not only heavy handed, it is unwise. Carson should clarify his words or eat crow on this one.
Everyone else using profanity and getting all worked up should breathe deep and relax.
OSUGRAD93 - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:40 am - #
“there is no other relative college that plays football in your state. ”
I’d like to comment on this again. Not only are there EIGHT D1-A programs in Ohio, but there are about 10 pretty big time football schools from 3 of the 6 major conferences surrounding the state - Louisville, Kentucky, Pittsburgh, Penn St, Michigan, Michigan St, Notre Dame, Indiana, Purdue, & West Virginia. (no offense to fans of Indiana, but I hesitated including that one). These are all schools that you could drive to from Ohio and return in probably less than 2 hours.
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 am - #
& before someone starts scoffing at the MAC, I’ll list these names:
Charlie Fry, Jason Taylor, Charlie Batch, Antonio Gates, Ben Rothlisberger, Michael Turner, Chester Taylor, Troy Brown, Byron Leftwich, Randy Moss, Chad Pennington, Daunte Culpepper, & Asante Samuel all played in the MAC. These are just the players I thought most would recognize, there are many more that I didn’t list.
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 11:10 am - #
Well Carson’s legacy is being the heisman trophy winner.
Let’s look at the numbers. USC has 6 straight 11 win seasons (a bcs record), 6 straight bcs bowl games winning five of them ( a bcs record), six straight top four finishes (a bcs record). In the last six years they have had three heisman winners and two national championships. Overall the last five years they have lost 6 games the largest was by seven points. You can compare those to OSU and you’ll see that they USC has the advantage.
nick - July 22nd, 2008 at 11:13 am - #
Let the backpeddeling begin, from Ken Gordon article in the Dispatch:
“But I really do respect the Buckeyes, and I know their fans are passionate, too. I hope they all understand I’m just looking forward to a big game for my school against a very tough opponent, and that it’s all in the good fun of a rivalry. You don’t have a real rivalry unless both sides are great teams.”
I have no problem with him supporting USC. It is the fact that it was ‘those people’ supporting ‘that program’ & ‘that coach’. No respect and a lack of class.
Scott - July 22nd, 2008 at 11:19 am - #
good thing games arent played by paper advantages
BC - July 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 am - #
I am a buckeyes and Bengals fan. I have been since I was a little kid. That being said, I live in Columbus and just graduated from OSU, and I can’t stand many of ‘those fans.” I mean the type that scream OH in the middle of the road on a Friday night in April. Its not for the baseball team. I have gotten to the point where I have been rooting more for Arizona State the past 3-4 years(transferred from there) because I am embarrassed that people will think i am like ‘those fans’ when I say I like the Buckeyes.
At first I was pissed that he said that, but I can only imagine how annoying it would be to be from a true powerhouse like USC and having to hear people tell you that your alma mater sucks and that OSU is better.
Tony - July 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 am - #
“You can compare those to OSU and you’ll see that they USC has the advantage.”
I dunno, Ohio State hasn’t lost to a 40 point underdog in any game I remember.
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 12:11 pm - #
USC = Douchebags
OSU = Assholes
wow - July 22nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm - #
“I dunno, Ohio State hasn’t lost to a 40 point underdog in any game I remember.”
Has aOSU ever been a 40 point favorite? LOL
I do know that Stanford has a winning record vs the Suckeyes.
BuckeyefanAreCarson'sBitch - July 22nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm - #
Tony you are clearly not an OSU fan. Please give all of your scarlet and gray clothing to a real fan and move out of the area. Its called passion and you sir clearly don’t have it.
I think as a fan you have to respect people’s point of view and the varrying level of passion. I don’t think I read anywhere where an OSU fan said USC sucks. That is a rediculous statement. USC is a top 3 program if not the top program.
I have a visceral and violent reaction to asshole commenters from other schools talking shit about OSU. You can’t win a college football argument because college football fans are irrational partisans. Period.
We’ll find out who is better on September 13th and I look forward to a great game. Let USC fans and alums talk shit if they want to. If you want to underestimate OSU and JT, do so at your own risk.
Kyle - July 22nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm - #
To MY Daddy:
Thank you for correcting me on my misspellings of a redneck slang word. Although I don’t (a contraction of do and not) recall saying anyone could not use the word, (
Tyler - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 pm - #
Carson should not have criticized the Buckeyes!
He Will Regret his Comments!
U.S.C. and the Cincinnati Bengals are worthless anyway!
Rick - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:09 pm - #
Let’s try again.
To My Daddy:
Thank you for correcting me on my misspelling of a redneck slang word. Although I don’t (a contraction of do and not) recall saying anyone could not use the word (only that their opinions would not be taken seriously), I will make it my solemn duty to never make such an erroneous mistake again.
I also remember VY coming into the ‘Shoe on that night in ‘05 and Beating a very good Buckeye team. I also didn’t forget Troy Smith doing the same thing in Texas a year later….at night. How have the post VY Longhorns faired since then? Well don’t worry, I’m sure another Vince Young will come along soon to get you back to the title game.
As for what happened with your mother, I think I can speak for the majority of Buckeye fans in offering you and your family a sincere apology. Unfortunately, there are those who are classless, beligerant a**holes who give the entire program and fan base a bad name (and I’m willing to bet that most didn’t even attend the univeristy, funny how that works?). I do remember meeting many classy and informed Longhorn fans in ‘05, and have heard great stories from Buckeye fans who praised the southern hospitality shown to them in Texas in ‘06.
Why people come to this OHIO STATE blog and criticize us for being passionate about the Buckeyes remains a mystery. You see, there are a few words in our fight song we take very seriously, “Our Honor Defend”. Carson attacked our team, our university and us as fans. We retorted.
Tyler - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:24 pm - #
TexasBuckeye, good work and keep dropping the facts. It’s a strange coincidence how the anti-Buckeye rhetoric stops once facts are presented.
As for you Tony, the fact that you are embarrassed to call yourself a Buckeye says everything we need to know about you. As one of “those fans” let me just say, from the bottom of my heart, suck my balls.
Tyler - July 22nd, 2008 at 1:36 pm - #
hilarious!
Bengals Owner Mike Brown on Carson Palmer’s statement about Ohio State:
“I don’t know if he knows my dad coached them to two straight wins over USC, 33-0, 26-12. If he wants to make something out of it, he knows where to find me.”
bc - July 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm - #
I, for one, agree with Mr. Palmer. Kudos.
Chris - July 22nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm - #
TO:
Mike66 - I’d rather die from a riot, earthquake, smog poisoning, wild fires, mudslides or serial killers over boredom! And the price of real estate simply shows that California has more money; therefore more free time to party. And the simple fact that you have no clue why a 500 person packed club on a Monday night is a good thing is ample proof of how lame Ohio is.
Kyle- 1 click on ESPN led me to this site. Believe me I have a life. Why do you think I posted at 6AM. And I just read Carson’s comments. He ain’t back tracking bro. That’s called telling like it is. No where did he deny or refute his comments. And he pays respect to the team and that’s not good enough for you? Please all of you take a vacation out of the state and try to relax.
Texasbuckeye - Your name dropping of Halle Berry only proves my point for me. Got the heck out of town the second she could. As for Miss America, had to do some research, but Cali and Ohio are tied at 6-6. And check out Miss Columbus from 1922 + 1923, Mary Katherine Campbell. What a looker! And if you had the ability to reason, you would realize that “those people” he is referring to are the ones that he has had to put up with giving him crap over the years. And as for the opponents records, note that you failed to list the actual teams played.
Gobucks89 - You actually believe that not a single Ohio State player in the NFL has hated on another school? BWah! And, please, 6 kids. So you’ve had sex 6 times. If that’s all you’ve got to brag about for fun in your town, I rest my case.
Wow - I couldn’t agree more!
Simple fact- USC has dominated college football recently and it began on Carson’s watch. He has been playing in Cincinnati all this time. Ohio State’s performance during this time pales in comparison to SC’s. This is not to say that Ohio State “sux”. Getting to the big 1 twice in a row is impressive. So is winning a Heisman.
But you attack a guy for defending himself and his alma mater? Give me a break.
I just have one question.
Will osu fans finally shut up IF USC beats them.
Hmm. I wonder.
Fight on!
And for all of you buckeyes who come out for the game. Pack everything you own, cause you’re never going to want to leave LA!
USCwillBEATosu - July 22nd, 2008 at 3:40 pm - #
“Gobucks89 - You actually believe that not a single Ohio State player in the NFL has hated on another school? BWah! And, please, 6 kids. So you’ve had sex 6 times. If that’s all you’ve got to brag about for fun in your town, I rest my case.”
Hmmm….humor deficit alert. Oh well, I’ll just sit here and wait for you to tell me which former OSU players you had in mind as examples of this kind of thing. After all, I’m in Columbus and I obviously have nothing better to do.
GoBucks89 - July 22nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm - #
“Texasbuckeye - Your name dropping of Halle Berry only proves my point for me. Got the heck out of town the second she could. As for Miss America, had to do some research, but Cali and Ohio are tied at 6-6.”
—-OK, so Ohio & California are tied. I was responding to someone’s comment about how there was not one good looking woman in the state. It’s BS, isn’t it?
“And if you had the ability to reason, you would realize that “those people†he is referring to are the ones that he has had to put up with giving him crap over the years.”
—I don’t believe so, and it seems neither did Palmer, look up his retraction, he knows what he meant.
And as for the opponents records, note that you failed to list the actual teams played.
Do you WANT me too? OK, if you insist. (see posts to follow).
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 5:13 pm - #
USC:
+20 ASU (10-3)
+32 ILL (9-4)
+21 Org St (9-4)
-7 Org (9-4)
+7 Cal (7-6)
(this ends the teams w/ win rec’s)
+17 UCLA (6-7)
+18 Nebr (5-7)
+7 Ariz (5-7)
-1 Stanf (4-8)
+33 Wash St (4-9)
+3 Wash (4-9)
+38 ND (3-9)
+28 Idaho (1-11)
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 5:19 pm - #
OSU:
-14 LSU (12-2)
+31 Wisc (9-4)
+20 PSU (9-4)
+ 11 Mich (9-4)
-7 ILL (9-4)
+16 Purd (8-5)
+7 MSU (7-6)
+32 YSU (7-4)
+51 NW (6-6)
+18 Akron (4-8)
+19 Wash (4-9)
+45 Kent St (3-9)
+23 Minn (1-11)
4 teams w/ losing records vs the 8 USC played.
TexasBuckeye - July 22nd, 2008 at 5:21 pm - #
What I noticed in that list is that USC beat Illinois by 32 and Ohio State lost by 7
tom - July 22nd, 2008 at 6:48 pm - #
What is so wrong with what he said. If an Ohio State Alum said something like this, you wouldnt jump on him. Heres espn’s take on it
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=undefined&categoryId=2459789
nick - July 22nd, 2008 at 6:58 pm - #
Finally someone speaks the truth about an overrated program in an overrated conference.
HOWEVER… you can’t deny that Tressel recruits top talent. He continnualy out recruits top programs like USC and Michigan and Florida and other SEC schools. He just got the top QB recruit in the nation so Palmer better watch what he wishes for. Also USC is becoming increasing vulnerable on the offensive front.
Anton - July 22nd, 2008 at 8:13 pm - #
the buckeyes could beat the bengals
cincy man - July 22nd, 2008 at 8:32 pm - #
“What is so wrong with what he said. If an Ohio State Alum said something like this, you wouldnt jump on him.”
As long as you’re fantasizing, why not say “If an OSU Alum threw a hand grenade into the ESPN offices…”? The point is that OSU Alums, as proud as they are of their school, don’t go around trashing other programs. Carson Palmer is ripping us because of our school pride, and yet his defenders say he’s just showing school pride himself. It’s one thing to say “I love the Trojans”, it’s another to rip on a school that’s never done anything to him, other than demonstrate the same kind of school pride with which he now defends himself.
One more thing, it takes a lot of brass to talk about how overrated the Big Ten is when your school plays in the Slack 10. USC has a cakewalk to the championship every year without exception. I sincerely hope that Neuheisel is able to resurrect UCLA because there needs to be at least one decent team in that conference so USC can at least break a sweat once a year.
GoBucks89 - July 22nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm - #
I mean besides September 13th that is.
GoBucks89 - July 22nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm - #
Guys…simmer down. Carson had a smile on his face the entire time he was giving the interview. In fact, part of the time, he was reading off a script. Sure, he is a big USC fan (of course), but he has no major ill fillings towards OSU.
These comments were intended for internal entertainment only. But somehow, they leaked out.
Coach B - July 22nd, 2008 at 9:36 pm - #
Id rather cakewalk to the national championship and win than cakewalk and get embarassed with the whole country walking. And he wasnt attacking OSU and all their fans, he was talking about the fans that give him a hard time. What are people in ohio so priveledged they can talk shit and not expect anything in return?
nick - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm - #
watching* (walking)
nick - July 22nd, 2008 at 10:21 pm - #
OSU Serious! I wish SC played Kent St. or all the tech schools the Big 10 and the SEC play. Both are wack. SC ROCKS, FOR THOSE WITH ANY QA CHECK OUR RECORDS, WE ARE THE THE #1 FOOTBALL FACTORY, OUR WEATHER IS GOOD OUR BABES ARE HOT AND OUR FOOTBALL KICKS ASS. PALMER SPEAKS THE TRUTH.
GO TROJANS - July 23rd, 2008 at 12:14 am - #
Hold on Anton, there is no way Tressell out recruits Pete Carroll. Pryor might of been the best qb recruit last year but he was not the best high school qb. Matt Barkley was the only junior ever to win the gatorade player of the year and he has already committed to USC. SC has I think its seven, down from ten, blue chip running backs on its roster. They have two Parade National Players of the Year in Sanchez and Mustain. Last year was a “down year” in recruiting because they didnt have many scholarships because they gave so many to this years senior class. USC lost three first round draft picks on defense and they will have four more this year in Malaluaga, Cushing, Moala (who most experts have as the best DT in the country), and Taylor Mays if he comes out. Mays is 6′4”, 225, and runs a 4.33 40. And then theres sophomore Everson Griffin. He had 6 sacks as a freshman while playing as a backup. Hes 6′5”, 265, runs a 4.46 40 which is probably faster than beanie wells. Carroll had 4 straight years of having the best recruiting class in the country. USC’s back ups would start for most top 25 teams. Why would anyone want to go to Columbus, maybe lose a few national championships, when they could go to the warm weather in LA, win some national championships, and have a real shot at a heisman
nick - July 23rd, 2008 at 1:26 am - #
Let us not forget; Palmer’s brain has probably been seriously fried the past few seasons due to his close proximity to Chad Johnson’s noxious fumes that emanate from his piehole on a regular basis. Plus, Cincy loves their Pac-10 washed-up QBs. Akili Smith, anyone?
deejay - July 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 am - #
My reaction? Meh. It’s all in good fun. Who cares?
Here’s what Mike Brown had to say:
“I was going to talk to him through you (the media),†said Brown with a grin. “Tell him – he might not know that my dad coached at Ohio State and beat USC two years in a row, 33-0 and (28)-13, and if he wants to make something out of that he knows where he can find me. He thought he was in friendly waters – and I think he was – but he just didn’t understand the outreach and it got back here. I don’t think anyone takes that seriously, and if they do they shouldn’t. It’s just having fun.”
Tom Blogical - July 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 am - #
When exactly did Mike Brown become a beacon of wisdom?
Brian - July 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 am - #