Ohio State's Incoming Freshmen Class Has an Average ACT Score of 28.8

By DJ Byrnes on August 21, 2014 at 4:42p
The Ohio State University
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It's become an annual tradition: Ohio State's freshmen setting statistical records on standardized tests. This year is no exception.

42,800 students applied to Ohio State's Columbus Campus, and only 7,000 were admitted.

From The Columbus Dispatch:

The average ACT score improved to 28.8 and the SAT average rose to 1,270. Both are about 1 percent higher than last year. About 62 percent of the freshmen had grades in the top 10 percent of their graduating high-school classes, up from 58 percent last August. 

How good is a 28 on the ACT? According to CollegeSimply.com:

Yes, [it's] extremely good. A 28 places you approximately in the 91st percentile nationally for all students who took the ACT test.

Good news for everyone already with an Ohio State degree: the value on that piece of paper is rising quickly.

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture
He's a smart guy!
Ouch!

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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Buckeye-in-pitt's picture

Bad news for me though as I have a act score of 25 and an sat score of 1200. In the 2015 graduating class. My dad is an alumni though. Anyone know if that will help my case? I'm out of state too

TheBadOwl's picture

Get involved in as many extracurriculars as you possibly can. If you have a 3.6-4.0 GPA that'll help too, but getting that ACT score up around 27/28 will help a lot as well.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

mh277907's picture

Run a 4.3 forty

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William's picture

1) Being out-of-state will help, they want your money. 
2) See if you can get some tutoring for the ACT, a score in the 27-29 range would really help your cause. 
3) Your father's alumni status should help. 
4) It has been said above, but get involved in as many extracurricular activities as you can manage, it will only help your chances. 
 

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dan_isaacs's picture

Meh, you get a 12K scholarship that basically brings the cost down to in-state prices, as long you're in the top half of the class.

(National Buckeye Scholarship:  http://undergrad.osu.edu/money-matters/scholarships.html)

Dan Isaacs

William's picture

The ACT requirement for that is a 28, and the SAT (math+reading) a 1260, so there are other requirements other than being in the top 40% of your class. I qualified for that my freshman year, before I was able to weasel my way into in-state before classes started, of course it was only 8k a year then. 

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brylee's picture

Agree...my son goes to KSU, and his freshman roommate was from out of state.  I mentioned that his out of state tuition must have been through the roof, and he said the same thing...the college just ups the amount of scholarship money...it's all bullshit!

Ohio State Ombre's picture

remember that those numbers are average. people with lower than a 28 get in, its about what else you have on your application. extra-curriculars as well as other things can really boost your chances.

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

You could always start at a regional campus and then transfer after a year or two.  Cheaper and the name on the diploma doesn't change and it never mentions where you started.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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dan_isaacs's picture

Or a community college.  Would save a TON of money.

Dan Isaacs

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BroJim's picture

Don't worry about grades and scores. Try doing some volunteer work related to the area you want to study. 

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RocknRollover's picture

Although from a slightly different time-frame (2002), I only achieved a 22 on my ACT and still got into OSU engineering school.  Important to note that I was out-of-state and both of my parents were alumni, which did help my case.  Might I add that I am a Magna Cum Laude graduate with M.S. degree and an excellent paying engineering job.  In other words, don't let a stupid test get your hopes up.

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PasadenaBuckeye626's picture

I'm an incoming freshman.  Do some test prep.  My test scores increased a lot, and it allowed me to get some scholarship money.  I recommend eprep.com.  Also, don't rely on your dad being a graduate.  I know a family who was heartbroken that their children didn't get in despite their dad being a graduate.  Best of luck to you in your application process.  Go Bucks!

Go Bucks!

Denny's picture

My dad is an alumni though. Anyone know if that will help my case?

OSU isn't in the Ivy League. I doubt a legacy claim will do you any good.

Taquitos.

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ibuck's picture

The Ivy League consists of 8 private institutions. Ohio State and 7 other B1G schools are considered Public Ivies, universities that provide an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

Byaaaahhh's picture

...still not an ivy league school, still wouldn't really be affected by legacy.

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Denny's picture

Public Ivies are in no way the same as a real, actual Ivy – especially culturally, which is where the legacy thing comes into play.

Taquitos.

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ibuck's picture

OK, not trying to say anything about legacy admissions, regardless of what happens in the Ivy League.  

Just wanted to point out that OSU provides a superior education.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

OH_IO's picture

Three years ago when I applied, I also had a 25 on my ACT and was accepted.  I obviously have no idea how they pick students, but I can tell you that my senior year class schedule was rigorous (no double study halls, sir), I played multiple sports and was involved with a few organizations.  Also have multiple people read your essays.  Good luck to you!

Oh yeah... Is it reasonable?

741's picture

Apply for the 2nd semester.

ChicagoBuckMD's picture

Apply early!

"Why be around average?" - UFM

JakeBuckeye's picture

If you are denied, apply for the spring semester of that same academic year. Spaces open up. I was denied admission to go to OSU in fall of 2013, but I re-applied directly for Spring 2014 and was accepted.

Denny's picture

This is probably the best, most aggressive advice I've seen here. Take advantage of spring semester drop-outs and get in that way.

Taquitos.

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Shangheyed's picture

If OSU is the way you want to go, and can't get in... go to a good 2 yrs college and SHOW them with your grades you can do it... will save you some coin as well(make it a 2 yr program around C-Bus and is almost like you are there... except will not have 800 students in your Econ 101 course).

ToetotheFace's picture

ACT score is heavily overvalued and biased towards speed. It really is nothing more than a random school information test. Good GPA is in my opinion just as good if not a superior indicator of ability, plus things like community service and other after school programs will boost your value. It may devalue your ability to get some scholarships, but with those factors + a good essay on your application and an alumni father will help you a lot.

Trust me though, don't feel bad about a 25. I got a 27 which isn't much higher and I take all AP classes. The ACT is nothing more than general school knowledge, and is horribly biased towards speed(even more so than the SAT), I had to guess for about 1/3 of the test because of time constraints. I know this because I got a near perfect 99% score on the P-ACT which is a very shortened version of the actual test(that I still couldn't finish). I graduate the same year and have gotten interest from tOSU in both email/mail, my ACT score isn't much higher, I haven't done any program fully other than community service, and my 3+ gpa is nothing special though it has come from very hard classes(which I didn't put enough effort in). If someone as lazy as me, who doesn't have an incredible record of accomplishments can get interest, I'm sure you can easily if you put effort in to it.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

GPA is a measure of how much effort you put into school, not how smart you or how much ability/potential you have.  But if you want to get any kind of decent scholarship money, you have to have a good one.

In high school, I aced every test and had zero motivation to do homework or projects or to study in general and as a result, had a horrible GPA.  I also got a 31 on the ACT and when I joined the Army, my GT score on the ASVAB was 130 which is the maximum you can attain.  I would probably have less student loan debt (read: more scholarship money) now if I had put more effort into school, but I never really valued the concept of "busy work" so for me it was a struggle.  I was also pissed that the new GI Bill pays 100% tuition/fees, and also pays a housing allowance and a book allowance.  I got it for my last of 4 years of college after having to pay everything out of pocket for the first 3.

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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ToetotheFace's picture

You missed my point. What do you think I am? I already self admitted that I am a very lazy person. My GPA score is nothing special, I don't study, I have failed a class(an honors class, because of a missed 10 page paper), have trouble focusing on busy work, etc. I can tell you though it annoys me when people act like I must have gotten a lower score because I don't like those types of test, when really I have scored 99% multiple times, though I put little value in that fact towards how capable I actually am. However, trust me when I say getting As in classes like AP Physics and AP Chemistry that are almost solely test based(I know because that is how I passed with As in those types of classes without doing much homework), is FAR more valuable than getting a 33 or whatever on a general skills test that is basically giving you a bunch of non specific random questions, that almost totally rely on speed and how far you have gone with your classes.

The whole concept of standardized testing is pretty stupid(not to say there isn't value there, but I don't like the shift in usage that has happened), especially now that they are doing it at the lower level and forcing pointless numberline systems that have to be memorized in order to preform on the math sections, but I don't want to get in an argument about that.

I looked up the ASVAB and it has been shown to correlate extremely highly .95+ with reading ability.  The ASVAB is more or less a measure of literacy. It doesn't seem very relevant, I was merely trying to give my point of view on what the kid asking had already done, considering I am doing the same things right now. GPA obviously reflects work ethic, but it also reflects understanding of courses that often provide a more realistic setting to the skills you will need in college and beyond, though even it is still very very loosely reflected. However I think it is every bit as legitimate as the test, it measures ability/potential as well as work ethic, and as I have already pointed out there are many flaws in those tests and getting a bad score is nothing to worry about, especially given how many other indicators of ability college's will look at.

Rav747's picture

I was an out of state student as well. 

well, what do you want to major in? If you plan to major in Bus, Eng, pre law/med, health sciences, you will have a hard time getting in. However, if you plan on doing Agri, English, Philo and "so forth" you wont have a problem. 

In high school I was not super involved:

joined a bunch of clubs(never involved) and did volunteering here and there just to get my required hrs

played varsity sports 3 years

2.6 gpa 1360/1600 sat(older one)

Applied to 8 schools and go into them(including osu), but chose U of I Urbana Champ for their Engineering prog because that's what my parents wanted me to do. Failed out! 

Went into Comm College, did well and applied to OSU and a bunch of other schools and OSU was the only one who gave me a second chance due to my crap grades at U of I. 

Lets back up a bit. A recruiter had come to my college and i sat and heard everything she wanted to say. After she was done almost all the students just left, so I went up and told her my case and she took my name, number and email address. A week later a get a call from the dean of admissions(sadly, she is no longer there) and she was super nice. 5 days later I get my thick packet :) 

 All you have to do is stand out from the rest. Call/email admissions, talk to them. Talk to recruiters when they come to your high school or college. 

Ohio State gave me a second chance. Got 3 degrees(Finance, Bio and Japanese), currently a 3rd year co pilot of SW Airlines. So, I am living my dream and I have OSU to thank for that. So, if you see a guy in uniform walking down the terminal with an OSU and  a block O sticker on my bag, say hi.

All the best!

Sorry for the long response and being over dramatic, but I am a little too passionate about anything OSU related. 

What can i say, I bleed scarlet and grey, all day errryday :) O-H..

MichiganBuckeye222's picture

In 1987 I had a 2.2 coming out of high school.  My SAT was 1200...

i applied for for summer session and got in.....not sure if it SPS easier to get in for the summer session....good luck.

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buckeyedude's picture

Does this mean the fans are smarter too?

 

 

chemicalwaste's picture

I wish that was the case, but nope.

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BTBuckeye's picture

It's really hard to get accepted to main campus. I got an associates degree at a community college and then transferred to  tOSU. Still have to work my a$$ off to get into Fisher though. They never would have accepted me otherwise! Y'all are too smart. I am terrible at standardized test, but got an A- in Finance 620. The Chase!

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shadybuck's picture

Transferred after 1 year of community college in 05/06, the transfer standards were almost alarmingly low... but I'm not complaining, got me that piece of paper now and that's all that matters

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Shangheyed's picture

That is how you do it Shady well done getting the degree you wanted, maybe took an extra move on the chess board but you indeed came out the better for it.

Oldschoolbuck's picture

All I can say is I'm really glad I attended when I did; I don't think I'd be accepted today. 

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chemicalwaste's picture

I was thinking the same thing. I'd be borderline with a 27 and 1200. Might still get me in, but it would be close. But, I'm in so we're rolling.

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Hitman61's picture

Entered in Fall 1979. Graduated Class of 1983. I can't recall what my ACT score was but I KNOW it wasn't near 28.8. Suggestions to high school kids and previously mentioned in this post, if you don't get accepted in Fall semester as a Freshman, visit a community college or OSU branch for some general education classes. Transfer in later. GO BUCKEYES!

LebBuckeye

ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Do they have a comparison chart anywhere of the B1G schools to show average ACT scores?

[Edit] Found this:

B1G schools (ACT) - these are ranges:

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/theact/a/big-ten-act-scores.htm

IVY schools (ACT) - for comparison (though Ivy's tend to favor SATs):

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/theact/a/act_side_x_side.htm

FWIW: SEC (note the lower scores on their range):

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/theact/a/southeastern-conference-act-scores.htm

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

The state of Mississippi has some low standards, relatively speaking.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

ChicagoBuckMD's picture

Holy shit Northwestern! Their middle 50% is 31-34! Maybe we'll catch up to that in 50 years?

"Why be around average?" - UFM

ToetotheFace's picture

I'd judge the schools more by the quality of their programs/professors, and the accomplishments of their alumni than a pretty flawed standardized test.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Northwestern has around 8,500 undergrads. Ohio State has more than 57K.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

How old is the story about Big Ten ACT scores?

ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Fair question - I looked for the year myself without much success.  I will guess this is 2011 or 2012 data since it usually take a few years for these sets to complete, but this is a totally uneducated guess.

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

PasadenaBuckeye626's picture

As an incoming freshmen,I take full accountability for this score increase

Go Bucks!

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funtubs's picture

Congrats! I remember last year they told us we were the smartest classes by the numbers ever at Ohio State, and you guys beat us.  No doubt the school is improving its academics every year

THE's picture

I graduated high school in 99 and from OSU in 04 (super senior)...I had a 28 ACT back then and thought  I was Albert Newton or some sort of rocket surgeon. Now I'd be in the meaty part of the bell curve. 

One of the things I'm most proud of is how OSU has academically improved over the last 20 years. It used to be anyone with a pulse got it and now it's highly competitive.

Drivin > Disco > Drivin.
To the people in the bathroom, how's it going in there?

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Golden Buckeye's picture

My Quad this year got an ACT of 34, 33, 31, and a 30.  #GoBucks

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Buckeye1996's picture

Well my bicep got a 32, 32, 33, and 35 :)

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11UrbzAndSpices's picture

Holy crap, are you using synthol?

Not stopping until I have more Helmet Stickers than M Man

Buckeye1996's picture

Seriously though, my degree is like a fine wine. It gets better with age. Keep pumping those standardized test scores and I'll have the equivalent of an Ivy diploma..ha.

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teddyballgame's picture

Those standardized entrance exam scores are up across the board though.  It's not uncommon at all for parents these days to spend money on prep books, practice exams, personal tutoring etc.  It used to measure more than just your ability to prepare for what is now a very predictable test at this point.

Buckeye1996's picture

That is true. The same for the GRE. I remember when I took the GRE at some college in Columbus. Can't remember the name. Anyways, I didn't study a lick. It wasn't something I thought you had to do...lol.

To make matters worse, I couldn't find the testing place, and when I finally did, I got there right when the door was shutting. We were told that if the door was shut, no test and you lost your registration fee.

That was back when we had the bubble sheets and a pencil. Not THAT long ago if you can believe that.

I did well, got into grad school and the rest is history.

 

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brandonbauer87's picture

I managed a 29 in the fall of my junior year, 2003. That was the second highest in my class by the time graduation day rolled around in 2005. My miserable 3.3 GPA got me laughed out of a few scholarship attempts. I was more concerned with girls, cars, and sports. I took the pride of my high school to a trade school to earn an automotive certificate and associate degree. I'm now one of 5 automotive technicians in the country to be master certified for Honda and Acura. 

Some days, I still wish I would've gone to OSU instead. 

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Buckeyeneer's picture

Wow. That puts me at below average. I had a 28 in 1998 and I think the average for the freshman class back then was around 22.5 or 23.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

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Tim's picture

So adjusted for inflation (everyone getting good at taking standardized tests), you'd probably be getting a 32 or 33 today.

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hit_the_couch's picture

They might have changed the ACT format. I kbow they did with the SAT.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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Buckeyeneer's picture

@Tim & Hit: I was talking to a couple of buddies about this yesterday and the first asked if there has been grade inflation on the test like there has been on GPAs in many schools. The second who works in academia, noted that the ACT has been reworked in recent years so its hard to judge past scores from current scores. One of them sent me this link ( http://www.act.org/newsroom/data/2013/pdf/profile/Ohio.pdf ) which seems to suggest (if I'm reading it right) that at least over the past few years this things has been consistent based on overall scores.

Anecdotally, my mother-in-law is a guidance counselor and regardless of test score inflation, she says based on what she has seen, OSU is much harder to get into than it was a decade ago.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

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hit_the_couch's picture

7000 of the 42000+ applicants were admitted. Is that a misprint? Thats only about 16%. Sure its not 7000 enrolled out of the probably 20000 that were accepted? Acceptance rate is normally around 52% for main campus.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

rock flag and eagle's picture

Yes, DJ Byrnes made a mistake.  The article states that the incoming class is 7000 students.  The university accept many, many students that turn down OSU.  Every school accepts more students than they enroll.

KE's picture

My 1270 SAT and diploma from a tiny Ohio farm town got me into Cornell in 1974. It's amazing to me that my SAT is now the OSU average. The times do change.

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FitzBuck's picture

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

ACT must be an easier test these days, right.....right?

northcampus's picture

1.  OSU alums from a generation ago bragging about the current test scores increasing the value of their own degrees should understand that the 21st century OSU grads make the alums from the 20th century look like neanderthals, which isn't great news unless the older crowd plans on staying in the exact same role for the rest of their lives.

2. The last 3 years at OSU, main campus has had 27k applicants (2012), 35k (2013), and now 43k (2014).  If any high schoolers are concerned about possibly not getting into their fall freshman class, please consider the branch campuses or Columbus State.  If you want to be part of OSU from the start, the branch campuses are a great way to transition to main campus while still being an 'OSU student.'  For those who want to be in Columbus from the start, Columbus State has something called 'Preferred Pathway' which is set up to streamline you into transferring into OSU after 1 or 2 years at CSCC (you can pick either option).  When I was at OSU, myself and all my roommates took classes at CSCC and they were a cheaper/easier way to knock out credits.  All my CSCC classes were filled with OSU students.

3.  Getting into OSU isn't going to be any easier.  I know students who were denied or wait-listed in 2013 or 2014 and these kids have older siblings who are either current OSU students or recent grads (one friend graduated summa cum laude from OSU IN 2011 and her sister didn't get into the 2013 freshman class).  As state funding continues to decrease and OSU continues to strive to increase their metrics, more and more Ohio students will be denied.  Unless your family OSU alum is someone with deep pockets, that network isn't going to help you.

4.  OSU has to have an incoming freshman from every Ohio county, as well as someone for every major they offer.  Most kids can't do anything about the county they live in, but if you intend on applying to Fisher or another highly competitive program, consider a less popular major at the beginning (you can always change once you get in).

5.  Like someone above posted, run a 4.3.  No matter how much OSU or ND or Michigan or Duke brag about their incoming student metrics, you'll always have a place at one of these schools if your gifts are more physical than mental.  OSU admissions counselors love to mention the student's 'holistic body of work' when someone calls them out on why a 'typical student' with a 28 ACT didn't get in while an 'exceptional student' with an 18 ACT did.

Go Bucks.

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hit_the_couch's picture

Columbus State has something called 'Preferred Pathway' which is set up to streamline you into transferring into OSU after 1 or 2 years at CSCC (you can pick either option).  

'Preferred Pathway' means get your AA or AS and you're guaranteed acceptance in about 10 schools in Ohio including tOSU. Myself and a number of others I know didn't get an AA/ AS and were still accepted into tOSU.

I tell anyone and everyone I can not to waste their time completing the AA/ AS as some of the credits won't transfer directly to the chosen (or accepted) tOSU degree program (in the path that CSCC lays out). It will save one time and money to contact department advisors at tOSU and find out what classes are needed.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

darbnurb's picture

So it seems that freshman are not actually any more intelligent.  It is that tOSU has a greater pool from which to select.  

Buckeye414's picture

There is an international component to your point. It has become a place that sees a significant amount of East Asian enrollees that paid full price. I almost got run over by a hello kitty more than my fair share of times.

-Go Bucks!

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Buckeye414's picture

I received my MBA from Fisher College of Business (FCOB) and I worked with a lot of the undergrad students there and I wasn't surprised to see all the top level recruiting for the Fisher undergrads.  A lot of times the MBA's mooched off of opportunities stemming from big time (read McKinsey, Bain, BCG) companies coming in to recruit the undergrads. From the perspective of understanding the concepts of business as a value metric for future success there is no better time to be a Buckeye at FCOB.

-Go Bucks!

Buckeye1996's picture

I think I agree with all of your points except the first one. As a neanderthal, I help the 21st century graduates in many ways. So yes, I'll stay in my role and throw spears at *ichigan graduates and provide deer meat for my fellow OSU grads.

Freshman's picture

Just moved in today. Proud to say I'm part of this class.

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ExpressiveBuckeye's picture

CHERISH IT!!! Honestly thats the best advice I think any Alum can give. I remember my move-in day like it was yesterday and often wish it was yesterday.

You are about to embark on the best 4-10 years of your life (depending on how well you do in classes). After that its all down hill...

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

pjtobin's picture

I never took any of those tests. So I have no clue of what to make of them. I am proud that our students are doing well. Could it be that highschool is better preparing these young minds? My dream is all three of my kids go to college. Any school! OSU would be my choice for them. After reading these comments they have a long road ahead it seems. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

scarpenter614's picture

I graduated from tOSU in 2009 and I worked at Subway most of the time I was there.  I kept hearing about all the incoming freshmen and their high ACT scores, which is fine, but you would never know it by the way they order a sub.  Maybe it's the difference between book smart and street smart.  Maybe your bucket of smart is only so big and the more book smart you have, the less street smart you have.  But they were some of the dumbest people I've ever seen, at least when it came to ordering and paying for a subilicious five dollar foot-long.  I never understood how in the world these same kids scored that high on a standardized test.  

Earle's picture

Maybe they just aren't sub smart?

Italics are for emphasis.

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BeijingBucks's picture

Just DBAA... Be a blowfish instead

 

 

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AndyVance's picture

As others in this thread have stated, don't fret if you are not accepted to main campus your first roll of the dice. Attend one of Ohio State's regional campuses, do well, and you'll be in Columbus in year two. The Land Grant mission still applies, and Ohio State is getting better every year. As President Gee always said, we're moving from excellence to eminence.

Bucki78's picture

Whatever you do, go to college!  I told myself I'd take a year away then go.  Needless to say I never went.... I live ok, but I wish I'd taken the opportunity and done it now.  There is no doubt in my mind that I would've been doing better for myself and my family had I went that direction.  Stay the course kid, you'll do fine wherever you may end up.  Best of luck getting into OSU though, hope you get in!

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