Guiton, hands down. MVP is not just the best player, or the one with all the accolades. The MVP is also the leader, the team player and the guy you can count on.
Oyster, I respect your opinion. And as much as I love Kenny and all he has done, and it should in no way be undervalued, I think El Guapo has been the MVP. Braxton, Shazier, Mewhort, and Johnston have been fantastic as well, but Roll Hyde has had a SPECIAL season... And honestly, when Ohio State needed him most, #34 has up come up absolutely huge... Just look at Northwestern, Iowa, and Illinois. Also, in regards to the other things you mentioned, he leads: remember when he was pumping up the defense on the sideline and encouraging them to get it done? He always credits the O-line and his teammates, and he has definitely been counted on when they needed a big play. Leader, team player, reliable. They are all deserving, but El Guapo is my MVP.
What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
Yeah I agree...
I think that the MVP should definitely be a leader like Oyster said, but let's also not forget what the acronym stands for.. Most VALUABLE Player.
I love Kenny G as much as the next guy, but Braxton could step in there and give us the same chance (arguably a better chance) to win.
You can say all you want about Jordan Hall, Ezekiel Elliot and Rod Smith and they are all awesome backs, but I don't think they really compare to Hyde.
I still think we would win every game without Hyde, but I have a little bit MORE doubt than with the other 5 players.
The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.
I voted for Kenny based on the job he did when Braxton was out. Not many backups can come in and run the offense and not miss a beat like he did. That's how I see it. I am in no way taking away from the others but just how I feel. If he isn't a choice I say Hyde by a slight edge.
Hands down? As if to simply not consider the dude with 134 YPG (on SEVEN YARDS PER CARRY) and 12 TD's in Big Ten play.
Well, the question was 'Who Is Your MVP', which would indicate your personal choice. In other words, there is no correct answer, it is subjective.
It's only subjective when you don't agree with my factual opinion.
Kenny was the MVP 5 games in, but Carlos has come on STRONG lately
It seems like Braxton is becoming underappreciated by some.
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Fair point, but maybe it is just splitting hairs... All of them are so crucial to the team's success and all of them have been amazing. I think maybe it is just because Hyde has been so strong in big moments. Certainly, Braxton is having an amazing season also. I really hope he stays, no under appreciation from me. He's special.
The thing that still bugs me about Brax is his tendency to get lackadaisical. It's like he wanders off into his own little world at times.
Not under- appreciated, just not as consistent at Hyde has been. Hyde, as other posters have pointed out, has put the team on his back and carried them. Miller is a better QB because of Hyde...not the other way around.
Not under- appreciated, just not as consistent at Hyde has been.
No. underappreciated is pretty accurate. First it was the whole thing with Guiton, now it's this.
Miller is a better QB because of Hyde...not the other way around.
Ummm, no. Teams worrying about Braxton has helped Hyde tremendously.
You help your RB by teams worrying about your passing ability which opens up lanes for the running game and takes guys out of the box, Braxton hasn't really been proficient with downfield passing. Lots of checkdowns, lots of screens, and a once in a while deep ball that he is good at completing but still misses lots of easy throws and has left several touchdowns on the board this season missing wide open guys. Hyde and Braxton's ability to run help Braxton in the passing game, they load the box and they still can't stop Hyde. If anyone's underappreciated its this O-Line and Hyde. Guiton was the MVP through the first few games but Hyde has easily been the MVP since he's been back. I really don't know how to describe Braxton other than he's a great playmaker with a lot of potential but he's a little soft and a little slow. He hasn't proven himself as the leader and quarterback we all hoped he would be but then again Columbus always has high expectations.
but he's a little soft and a little slow.
I can't take this seriously.
I suggest you do, granted the FACTS that he makes his share of terrible reads per game and has improved in terms of toughness but the guy did get taken off in an ambulance when he didn't even have a concussion and did drop a live ball when he thought he had injured his knee... he has improved but he does indeed seem lackadaisical at times.
Yeah, he was the one that called the ambulance.
Carlos Hyde. The power run with Hyde is what separates us from all of the other spread teams.
Carlos - 13 TDs in 130 touches and averaging 7.9 yards/carry
Shazier. Has been strong from the start and getting better every game. The one constant.
Tough call, but I went to RDS as well. Taking absolutely zero credit away from all other candidates. Figure it this way. Think how awful the defense would be if we didn't have him. All other candidates, with the possible exception of Jack Mewhort, would be missed, but I believe we are still undefeated without them.
Hyde - what they said^^
When it's crunch time, he's the go to guy....and has delivered without fail.
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El Guapo. And it's not even close.
Ohio State isn't even close to the same team without El Guapo. I sure hope EzE can fill his shoes next year, because they're big ones. Especially with most of the O-line gone.
I voted Braxton, but I meant to vote Hyde. Damn you, 7 AM!
Hyde. Without him, we may have 2 losses.
Hyde single-handedly won the Northwestern game, so I agree with you. If "O-line" was a choice, I may have chosen that one though.
Definitely Hyde. He's the only one of that group who I haven't yelled at the TV and said "What the heck are you doing!", plus I think he's handled a bigger adversity than the rest of them. Some might say that's a reason for him not to be the team MVP, but when your a young kid and you have what some might call excessive discipline thrown at you it's a lot easier to just give up instead and believe the narrative instead of buckling down and throwing the world a big double barreled middle finger salute with your actions on the field.
I wanted to vote for the entire O-line, and Mewhort was the closest I could get...
Ditto! Without our oline I don't see any of our talented rushers being as good. Brax and Hyde both are amazing. And both are freakish beasts. But the war is won in the trenches!
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True. If O-line was a choice, I'd have picked them.
The O-line has been the reason for both Hyde's and Braxton's success. Without Hyde we would have lost to Wisconsin, Northwestern, and possibly Iowa. Hyde and the O-line just beat them down and ate the clock. We also would be lower in the polls and not even sniffing a chance at the MNC without Hyde. We did operate without Braxton for three + games and did not miss a beat on the O.
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We played three games without Hyde also. The only consistent has been the o line.
Like the vast majority, I went with the handsome one.
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I didn't see my name up there...
El Guapo es muy, muy valioso.
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Johnston got a few votes. Is Tressel following 11W ?
"Woody would have wanted it that way"
No disrespect to El Guapo, but his offense line and receivers are the reason why he is in this position. He is running behind the best offensive line in America. The receivers have really picked up the slack blocking too. Guys like Evan Spencer, Philly Brown and Jeff Heuerman are getting hardly any pub for the job they've done blocking. Have you seen the holes El Guapo has been running thru? Holes the size of Texas. Untouched at times!
Shazier. He's basically been the only consistent performer on a D that has been wildy inconsistent throughout the year.
Viva El Guapo!
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Sniffing 1000yds with two games left. Rode pine for first three games. El Guapo. That is all.
I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.
That really is amazing. Not only missed the first 3 games, had limited action in several others because of blowouts and has the chance to pass the 1,000 yard mark before halftime on Saturday. Absolutely remarkable.
Hyde has delivered every single time we needed him to. There really isn't a bad pick on that entire list and arguments can be made for all of them but I think when needed, Hyde has carried this team on his back.
Hands down...El Guapo!
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Just ask yourself which combination you'd rather see against a top defense:
A) Hyde and Guiton
B) Miller and Hall
It's a tough call, and obviously the best combination is Miller and Hyde, but if necessary I'd take combo A, and that's why I voted Hyde MVP.
I get that the O-Line makes this offense go, but Hyde has been stopped for a negative gain just 1 time. He's been hit in the backfield or at the line of scrimmage a lot. For every gaping hole the O-Line has provided there's Hyde punishing and dragging guys for 10 yard rips. Still going with Hyde.
Does anyone else feel like they can predict the %'s in the polls? I feel like there are some pretty varied opinions on this site, but when I click the "vote" button, I am only surprised but the results 1 in 5 times. I'm often within 2-3% which I think is odd.
I usually have the same experience. This morning was different, as I cast my vote for Hyde, and it showed him as having 100% of the vote at that time. I was surprised a bit, until I looked at the "total votes" and saw that mine was literally the first vote cast. Haha
I should have totally commented, "FIRST!!!"
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Neither Braxton nor Kenny can be the MVP- simply because it has been proven that each can win when needed. We would not be undefeated with Braxton, but we also most certainly would not be undefeated without Kenny. This situation precludes either being the MOST valuable.
Mewhort has been great, but I'd have trouble singling out one lineman as the MOST valuable. If the whole O-line could win, that would be my vote.
Shazier has been very valuable, but honestly I don't think i can say that we've won any of the games we've won because of our defense. We've had some games where the defense performed very well, certainly, and some games where we won DESPITE the defense. I just don't think the defense has done enough that I could say one player from the defense is MVP.
Cameron Johnston has been awesome. If this were a completely defense and field position focus team, like 2002, there is no doubt at all he'd be my MVP. This year's team, though, is winning on offense. Just a sick, sick offense. Certainly Johnston has contributed to field position and made both the defense and that offense's jobs easier. I just can't vote MVP for a punter on a team winning by offense.
Hyde has been ridiculous. He continually gets yards when he shouldn't and puts the team on his back. Buuutttt, were we losing with Hall? Was Hall performing that much worse? Would Elliott perform worse? I think Hyde is an awesome beast, but again losing him doesn't sink us and I think that is kind of a requirement for MVP.
So who is my vote? Well, that's the thing. For me it is the offensive line. Since I can't vote offensive line, for me it is Ed Warriner. If I can't vote for a coach? Then I'd probably just forget to send in my ballot because this is a team full of valuable players, not a team dominated by one super valuable player.
Mewhort has been great, but I'd have trouble singling out one lineman as the MOST valuable. If the whole O-line could win, that would be my vote.
I was just going to post again on this saying the same thing. After thinking about it, if they did it as a whole O-Line, they would get my vote without even thinking about it.
The O-line are the MVPs of the team and Mewhort is the MVP of the O-line.
I understand what everyone is saying about the o line as a unit...but mewhort gets my vote anyway. He's the anchor of the unit, the leader, and has just been as dominant as any other lineman in CFB. Think about it...we have two qbs that have put up solid numbers. Our running game has been humming along using several different backs. I know el guapo has held the rb position down since he's come back...but I can't downplay just how easy his o line is making it. I love the big uglies...and Im giving the head hog the love here.
Also, look at the difference during the illinois game. With mewhort, the offense rolled along as is expected. When he was out, the offense struggled a bit to get anything consistent moving. That's an illustration of how valuable he really is to this team. Can't oversell that enough...with mewhort holding down the left side, the offense was what we expected.When he took a few series off was when the struggles came and the offense stalled. Hyde is a beast...but I'm sure he would be the first to tell you that without mewhort and his merry band of maulers he wouldn't be going anywherem
No way Hyde should get it. I mean he had his first rush for a loss against Illinois! Inexcusable!
Like it or not, Coach Meyer did suspend Hyde for off field actions. Actions that the head coach determined were not in line with the values he wants for his players. Based on the 3 games, it wasn't just for show either. That needs to be considered in naming the MVP in my opinion.
74% of voters don't care (or took into account, but still voted correctly).
For me, it is Kenny G. Without him, not sure how those games would have gone. Miller could have played in the last two, but still Kenny G got the job done. Hyde, well....this is what we expected of him. I also take value away from him for off field issues.
I voted for Guiton, and I look at it this way: Most valuable player, to me, is the one player that we would not be undefeated and staring a potential MNC/B1GC straight in the face without. When Braxton went out, Kenny not only kept this team winning, but did so without missing a single beat. Hyde has been unbelievably valuable as well, and he would be up there too, but I guess with the depth at running back, and considering Hyde wasn't available as an option to KG as he has been for BM, KG had to do more with less to keep us alive. Just an opinion!
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I hope the Cam Johnston votes are a joke.. The kid is a good punter, but do you honestly think he's the most valuable player on this team?
When a team rushes as well as we do, it's usually the O-Line. My vote's for Mehwort just for that reason. I'm using him as a metonymy for the line.
Upvote for the word "metonymy."
Everyone on that list has contributed in important ways, but often at different times. It's hard to compare when some players had to sit out some games with injuries or other issues.
If I HAD to vote now (I don't, and neither do you), I'd say Shazier, for consistent excellence, or write-in for the entire O-line.
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It was a tough choice but I had to go with Shazier.
Miller/Guiton are each having good seasons but proved that the offense can be run with either one of them. Mewhort has also been very valuable, along with the entire o-line.
Hyde has been dominant, and has given us what we all were hoping for after last year's breakout. I believe El Guapo is performing better than any other back would perform in his role, however with our stable of backs I think most of that production could be filled. The offense would still put up a lot of points and the team would still have a good chance at being undefeated.
Shazier has been explosive on defense. Behind a solid D-line, he has been able to play all over the field. He wreaks havoc when he blitzes and has some insane closing speed. He has been the MVP simply because without him, the defense would be much less dynamic. The coordinators wouldn't be able to dial up as many blitzes, and losing someone who can make plays sideline to sideline is crucial. None of the other LB's could step into his position and solidify the defense like Shazier does right now.
Hyde has been the most outstanding player so far this year, but Shazier brings more value to the table at the time.
Feel like the question should have been asked setting Carlos Hyde aside.
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Choosing between these players is like choosing which of your kids you love the most.
I voted for Kenny Guiton because I think he's been an outstanding leader on the field, on the bench, in the locker room, and off the field. He's been the epitome of an unselfish team player, and I think he'd easily be able to be a productive starting QB for a few other B1G teams.
When Braxton has had to miss games and playing time, the offense doesn't lose anything at all. There's absolutely no concern when Kenny comes on the field. How many other CFB teams have ever been able to say that about their backup QB?
I think Miller, Shazier, Hyde, and a few others are also worthy of being an MVP, and Hyde is making a strong case with his play on the field. However, he was suspended for 3 games earlier in the year. That's not the kind of leadership you want to see.
IMHO, Guiton's value is immeasurable. I know he isn't a starter, and I know a lot of people will disagree with me and will lay out very good reasons for their disagreement (a lot of which have already been made), and I respect that. The bottom line is, he's the first person I thought of and for the reasons I mentioned when I saw the poll.
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