I vote no because if Bryant Mckinnie (Miami) or Mike Williams (Texas) didn't win, then I doubt we will ever see a lineman win the heisman. I used those to names because while in college, they were dominate and they never allowed a sack.
In my short life I've seen some amazing lineman, Pace being at the top of the list.
If he couldn't win it ... no one can.
Pace tops them all, so no. And he was dominate when the Big 10 was very dominate. If that wasn't so, it still wouldn't happen because the position isn't "sexy".
The hype factor is way to big in deciding who win the Heisman. It's hard for talking heads/coaches/fans to hype up someone who does not pass, catch, or carry the ball. That being said, you can see that NFL GMs think otherwise by the number of lineman taken in early rounds of the draft. I've noticed that d-lineman are getting more attention, so maybe that will lead to o-lineman getting some love, but right now I just don't see it happening.
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I don't think the voters are smart enough or ballsy enough to pick a lineman. Ever is a long time, though, and maybe things will change in the 22nd century.
IMO, unless the college game somehow reverts back to the way the game was played in the 1980s & 1990s (more focused power, pro-style, less spread), an offensive lineman will never win the Heisman.
College football has almost completely transformed into a run & gun, spread & misdirect league where skill position players are always in the spotlight mostly because of the big numbers they're able to put up. No matter how well an offensive lineman performs (zero sacks, pancakes, etc.) the stats give the media something to chew on, analyze, and sell to the public. Today's offensive linemen are primarily tasked with maintaining a block long enough for a bubble screen or a QB read option, not pancaking their opponent to the ground, down after down after down.
Exhibit A) Skill position players (and even some defensive players) are sexy and exciting, which is probably why Danny Wuerffel beat out Orlando Pace in 1996...
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I'm sure Gary Danielson had SOMETHING to do with Wuerffel winning the Heisman
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Heisman is a popularity contest. If Orlando Pace or John Hicks couldn't win the Heisman then I don't think it'll happen. I hope I'm wrong since those guys deserve more chances than players that are hyped up by ESPN
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes
If Hicks & Pace weren't worthy, I'm not sure if anybody else who's played in the past 4 decades would be.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
I'd even be surprised if a pure defensive player ever won again, honestly. Even WR have a tough road to get the statute. Unless you're a QB or RB, the odds are really against you these days.
*Edit: I just looked through the list again and realized the three defensive players who won also played in another phase of the game.
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I concur with the idea that the burgeoning offensive numbers make it less likely that an offensive lineman would even be considered again, much less win. Even QBs who don't put up crazy numbers can barely get looked at any more, even if, like Andrew Luck (who lost out to players whose teams "did more" offensively), they're considered excellent pro prospects.
Take Alabama last season, the top team in the country and a team whose strength was probably its offensive line. Katherine Webb would probably have gotten Heisman notice before Chance Warmack.
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Lets see if a defensive player ever wins again before we start talking offensive lineman...
If Joe Thomas, Orlando Pace, and Lou Groza couldn't win it, then no one will.
Never is a LOOONG time, folks. It's bound to happen eventually. O got screwed and should've won it, but the voters weren't as smart then. Oh wait...
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I think Clowney is the best chance of any lineman winning it, offense or defense. He has the hype, the stats and the ess ee cee.
But, I know this kid in Columbus who sure as hell will give him a strong run for his money.
When I voted No. I was thinking offensive lineman. I think if Pace didn't win it it would be really hard for someone else to do it. Now a defensive lineman does have more of the "stats" power if he has a lot of tackles and sacks. If someone like Clowney goes off and has an incredible year like we have never seen then I think a defensive player has an outside chance. With that being said there would have to be not too many dominant QBs or RBs that year as well. So I think the odds are really low that we'll ever see it happen.
Pretty good chance you were thinking offensive lineman because the question was
"Will an offensive lineman ever win the Heisman Trophy?"
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Somewhere between never, and no chance in Hell.
I think a kicker/punter has a better shot at winning a Heisman than an offensive lineman.
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