Five Things: Barrett's Big Debut Leads Buckeyes Past Navy

By Chris Lauderback on August 31, 2014 at 2:15p
Barrett became just the 2nd Buckeye QB since 1950 to start a season opener.
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With variables such as a rare season opener away from the Shoe, being forced to face an offensive scheme they won't see again for years, if ever, and breaking in a freshman starting quarterback in game one for just the 2nd time in 64 years, it was expected Ohio State would encounter some turbulence. Despite a few bumps including surrendering 370 rushing yards, the Buckeyes still had more than enough talent to run away from Navy in yesterday's 34-17 win. 

The win sets up a Saturday night clash in Columbus as the Buckeyes welcome Virginia Tech to the Shoe. Before we turn our heads to that more conventional foe, we take a look back at five things from yesterday's 17-point decision over the Middies. 

THERE'S A NEW J.T. IN TOWN

With Braxton Miller's injury giving J.T. Barrett just 10 days of preparation, the kid who had yet to take a collegiate snap made some mistakes but the pros far outweighed the cons as he completed 12 of 15 throws for 226 yards and two touchdowns against one interception. And while he won't be mistaken for Miller on the run, Barrett's 50 yards rushing paced the team, giving him 276 total yards of offense, or 65% of the team's total output. 

Barrett got off to a bit of a slow start which was aided by the offensive line's sluggish performance in the face of Navy's consistent pressure. He took a sack on the 2nd possession after holding the ball too long in a collapsing pocket and nearly threw a pick-six two possessions later on a ill-fated screen. Following that near miscue, he found Dontre Wilson for 30 yards upon reading his progressions but on the next snap, he made a ridiculously bad decision and got picked off at the goal line. On the next possession, though it was a terrible play call, Barrett poorly executed an option on 3rd and 2 at the Navy 4-yard line and Ohio State lost seven yards before kicking a field goal to make it 7-6 Middies. To his credit, he still finished the half 8/11 through the air. 

Barrett settled into a groove in the 2nd half. Trailing 14-13 early in the 3rd quarter, he hooked up with Devin Smith for an 80-yard touchdown strike turning both the score and momentum in Ohio State's direction for good. On the next possession, he found Evan Spencer for 19 yards and OSU scored two plays later to make it 27-17 good guys. 

His best drive of the day soon followed as he ripped off a 19-yard run and a 15-yard run on 3rd and 11 before finding Michael Thomas for a 9-yard touchdown toss and a 34-17 lead. 

Overall, Meyer has to be pleased with what Barrett was able to do and what he can do down the road as both he and the offensive line gain seasoning.

A PAIR AND A SPARE

Life after Carlos Hyde began yesterday and the results were mixed as the Buckeyes managed to rush for 194 yards on 4.8 yards a carry a year after averaging 308 yards per game on 6.8 per carry. 

The good news is four guys ran for at least 40 yards while the bad news is Barrett paced the attack with 50 yards. Ezekiel Elliott found tough sledding early but things opened up a bit later as he peeled of a 20-yard gallop and a 10-yard burst for six to finish with 12 carries for 44 yards. As the starter, I expected better numbers and at least on this day, Curtis Samuel (7/43) and Dontre Wilson (6/44) looked like the best rushing options. Samuel also threw a nice block to spring one of Barrett's runs. Those two are going to be lethal on the jet sweeps and speaking of, I would've liked to see Jalin Marshall get some more touches. He turns the corner in a hurry. 

The combo of Barrett, Samuel, Elliott and Wilson combined to receive 37 of the 40 total carries while names like Rod Smith and Bri'onte Dunn were on the outside looking in again. Dunn was stapled to the bench and Smith had just two carries for six yards. It seems Meyer talks about them just enough to hopefully keep them both interested but it's hard to imagine either will have a meaningful impact on the 2014 squad. Beyond his two carries, Smith also completely whiffed on a lead block to start the 2nd half. 

It will be interesting to see how the carries are distributed next week. I have a feeling Samuel could be headed for 10+ carries, teaming with Elliott as the top two guys. 

STEPPING UP LATE

The most exciting takeaway from the win is how the offense responded after Navy's field goal to cap an 11-play drive cut Ohio State's lead to 20-17 early in 4th quarter. 

Needing to at minimum give the defense a chance to rest, the Buckeyes went on a 10-play, 80-yard touchdown drive to take a 27-17 lead and chew up five minutes in the process. Samuel got things going with three straight carries for a total of 26 yards, moving OSU close to midfield. Three straight conventional runs set up a 4th and 1 that Elliott converted by a matter of inches. Likely expecting an 8th consecutive running play, Navy stacked the box on 1st and 10 and Barrett flicked a 19-yard toss to Spencer to put the Buckeyes in business at the Navy 25-yard line. Wilson went for 15 one snap later and Elliott burst threw a huge hole for a 10-yard touchdown. 

Refreshed from the offense's long drive, the Bullets took the field and promptly forced a 3-and-out. With the game now nearly on ice, Barrett removed all doubt as he engineered an 8-play, 70-yard touchdown drive spanning 4:48 and highlighted by four plays of 15+ yards with three of those coming from the young quarterback. 

After popping a 19-yard run on the drive's 2nd play, he scrambled for 15 huge yards on 3rd and 11 from the Navy 46 and three plays later he hooked up with Michael Thomas for a 9-yard touchdown toss to put the game out of reach at 34-17. 

The two drives combined to span 9:48 of the 4th quarter, generating 150 yards on 18 plays, to effectively step on the necks of the Middies. 

BUYER BEWARE ON REBIRTH OF BULLETS?

Playing Navy sucks. I really have no idea why Ohio State schedules a team that runs such a one-off offense. As such, I'm inclined to let the jury continue deliberating on just how effective the retooled Silver Bullets will be once they face more familiar offensive attacks. That said, it was tough to watch the talented Keenan Reynolds run the same three plays over and over for a total of 370 rushing yards on 5.9 per carry. 

Tyvis Powell turned in a career high and team leading 13 tackles but was anyone overly impressed with his performance? I wasn't feeling his work on the option and felt Vonn Bell (7 tkl) should have seen more time ahead of Cam Burrows. 

Up front, Adolphus Washington was active with six stops including a pair of TFL's to lead the defensive linemen who didn't play as well collectively as many expected. At linebacker, Josh Perry had nine stops nd Curtis Grant though Darron Lee was the most impressive on this day with seven stops, two TFL and a 61-yard fumble return for a touchdown. His compadre at the walkout, Chris Worley, had five stops. 

Again, as painful as it was to watch, I'm still not sure we have much idea of how good or bad this defense is yet. I'm looking forward to next week so we can finally get a glimpse of what the offseason schematic changes in the back seven will bring. 

SPECIAL K

Working off the basic belief that the loss of Miller's incredible knack to make something out of nothing – especially on 3rd down – will have a meaningful impact on the TD/FG ratio this year, it was nice to see true freshman placekicker Sean Nuernberger turn in a perfect 2/2 day on field goals and 4/4 on extra points. 

His first try as a collegian came on the road and from 46 yards but Nuernberger split the uprights to make it 3-0 Buckeyes late in the 1st quarter. 

With Ohio State struggling to move the ball, Nuernberger also came through with 2:04 left in the half, converting a chip shot 28-yarder to cut Navy's lead to 7-6 at intermission. 

I get that neither kick occurred with the game on the line but considering OSU could find itself in closer games than maybe envisioned a month ago, it's nice to see the kid is as advertised thus far. 

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Sightlygrain6's picture

Apart from the O-line in the first half, I was very pleased with JT and our entire offense. Excited for whats to come.

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dubjayfootball90's picture

The speed that we have is insane.

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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mrspray's picture

It's weird - I was at the game, and didn't notice how fast Dontre seemed until I watched the tv broadcast... Let's continue to get him the ball in open space!

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BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Dontre was so oooooooh close to busting loose on so many touches...

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740Buckeye740's picture

Dontre is our own William Green...without all the bad stuff

RUN DONTRE, RUN!

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OSU_undergrad's picture

I haven't seen speed like this since Ted Ginn Jr., but the craziest thing is that it's coming from multiple guys. Wilson and Samuel look every bit as fast as De'Anthony Thomas did at Oregon, and both have some shake to the top end speed too. What was especially great was seeing Samuel's strength...even though he looks small I saw multiple lowered shoulders, strong blocking, and even a run where he literally threw a tackler off with his arm. Jalin Marshall only looks a step slower, but seems to be even stronger. And finally, it looks like we have some physically large receivers, like Thomas, in the mix. This doesn't even include Heuerman and Vannett. I just hope the O-line gets strong enough that we could scheme these advantages well and develop our positions...imagine a 5 receiver set with Marshall, Wilson, Heuerman, Samuel, and Thomas on the field.

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TheBadOwl's picture

Seeing as Navy does run a one-off offense, as you said, I don't think it's fair to say that the defense played poorly, or that we weren't impressed with the safety/linebacker play. Once Fickell/Ash changed up the scheme to get the linebackers out wide, the defense played much better. But we didn't have to see them in coverage very often.

Actually, the few times that Navy did try to pass it, we had very good coverage (Eli got beat on broken play), and the d-line had time to get in there and get to Reynolds.

Overall, I didn't think the defense was that bad. The triple option is a nightmare to defend, with all of those cut blocks. I think the Silver Bullets are going to ball out against VT.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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HYDEYOKIDS's picture

tackling issues did creep in again though...

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bucks4nuts's picture

That needs to be nipped in the butt yesterday 

"To The House"

The Rill Dill's picture

That would be --'nipped in the bud', as in 'kill it before it grows from a small bud, into a big plant (problem).

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AndyVance's picture

Hey boo birds - Rill Dill is right. It's a metaphor, and learning to use it correctly is a good thing.

BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

Agreed.  I think the fundamentals have improved drastically from 9/1/13, but there were still a LOT of yards after contact / whiff to be cleaned up.

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HYDEYOKIDS's picture

What I noticed is a tendency to over pursue. Once they get there a lot of times they had to stop and pivot to make a tackle which led to them reaching.

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Gunship_Buckeye's picture

I noticed a lot of the time they didn't know who had the ball.  Eyes need to be better

Gunship_Buckeye

Hit 'em hard. Keep Hitting them.  Exude strength over opponent.

socalbuck2014's picture

That was game plan. We had a guy spy the fullback every play. Their job was to hit him every time he came through the line.

Pay it forward

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Gunship_Buckeye's picture

Tackle tackle tackle.  No excuse

Gunship_Buckeye

Hit 'em hard. Keep Hitting them.  Exude strength over opponent.

UpIrons's picture

I am with you. I think this game is impossible to base our judgment on yet. Also, even with as bad my pixelated free stream was watching this game (thanks a lot WOW for not carrying CBS Sports) I was able to see plenty of cut blocks and I think the Defense should be praised for putting up with those somewhat lowdown moves and still holding Navy to a respectable score.

RedQueenRace's picture

The "one-off" explanation would fly better if this game had been in the middle of the season where the D had only a week to prepare,  But that was not the case.

These were bowl games from 3+ years ago, but both Iowa and LSU faced Georgia Tech, a triple option team.  With time to prepare, both of them shut the attack down.

In the end Navy got the ball quickly to the edge and had success.  That has me a bit uneasy until I see the back 7 perform in next week's game.

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chicagobuckeye's picture

I disagree. You are right LSU and iowa had the same amount of time to prepare, but they only had to prepare for the triple option. The next game they would play wouldn't be until august so they can sell out to prepare for the triple option. On the other hand, OSU had to prepare for this one game, and then play the next 11+ games against teams that actually put the ball in the air.

I don't think anyone thinks the defense played well, but at the same time most want to hold out judgement until they play a balanced team to see if anything has changed or if it'll be a long season of beat coverages. 

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Buckeye46's picture

Great point. Add in the fact that we were installing a completely new defensive scheme. Doesn't leave a whole lot of time to focus on this offense. I, for one, am going to reserve judgement until next week.

Buckeye46

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bucndc's picture

Look man,

If the triple option was all that, everybody would be running it. It is a pretty simple offense. Triple option, fullback, quarterback, halfback.

It takes assignment football. We had no one on the pitch out on a good 50% of the plays. Who's assignment is it to take the halfback?

It was like they were coached for the double option, they forgot someone needs to cover the halfback. I give the bucks no excuses, the linebacker play still sucked. They didn't have to worry about deep drops and pass coverage, just play your assignment. I was not impressed at all.

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chicagobuckeye's picture

You're right if it was that good then everyone would be running it, however, most players see this offense once their entire time in college. Why prepare for one week when there are 11 more consistent offenses in the regular season to prepare for?

bucndc's picture

Leave the excuses for Michigan. Every week we have to prepare for a different offense. We were not prepared for this one, period. That's on the coaches. They had four weeks to prepare for a one dimensional football team and basically failed in that preparation.

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UrbzRenewal's picture

Disagree. To say it was simply "assignment football" is entirely incorrect.

Schematically, Josh Perry was typically in charge of the pitch man (running over the top edge to edge). Josh Perry was routinely taken out of the play by Navy, but when he wasn't, we stuffed them. As soon as we adjusted to this in the fourth quarter, we slowed their roll a bit. It's not as simple as "assignment football". Navy executed well, adjusted to our plan, and then we adjusted. 

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bucndc's picture

Disagree,

If defending the triple option is not assignment football, then you have no business coaching. If you think you are going to have one guy cover both the fullback and the pitch, then you are going to have the same problem the bucks had.

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chicagobuckeye's picture

then you have no business coaching

Because he completely made the argument he's applying for Urbans job? I think at this point you have to just accept that the game didn't go as well as you would have liked. You also may need to just accept that others are arguing that maybe you're making a jump a little too quickly and should just wait a week before freaking out. 

bucndc's picture

I completely accept that are defense sucked. I am not the one making excuses. The last two games of last year and the first game of this year, same result. I think even an idiot from the south side could see that .

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chicagobuckeye's picture

1. Someone pissed in your Cheerios today

2. Same result as last season? The 20 yards in the air? Guess we were watching two different games. I strictly remember the pass defense as being a problem but I'll admit I'm not a coach so I could be wrong. All I was saying is that according to you, the sky is falling when the only offense of the season osu will face that remotely resembles this is in the past.

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bucndc's picture

I completely accept that are defense sucked. I am not the one making excuses. The last two games of last year and the first game of this year, same result. I think even an idiot from the south side could see that .

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Dmac3212's picture

Completely agree some fans are just biased and can't throw a negative way the bucks way. That's alright it's part of being a fan. I personally look for the faults of the buckeyes so I can prepare for a realistic season and see what what needs improvement. TOSU not only struggle with the pitch man but the quick full back counter probably accounted for 160 yards. 

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ScoobyKnows's picture

^^^^THIS^^^^Why are people down voting for someone voicing their perception of this game?  Let people have opinions!  That is what makes this website so great.  Save the down votes for the trolls and stop the down votes just because you do not agree with another.  I for one thought we played a decent game but was a little disappointed in our run defense and our offensive line.  JT was pretty good for a redshirt freshman.  He made some rookie mistakes but he will learn from them.  This team will get better.  This I know.

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ogama843's picture

I don't have a problem with his critique of the defense. However, I am from the south side..... Sooooooo.... Downvote from me, asshat.

Holy Buckeye!

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bucndc's picture

I guess the shoe fit

OSU_undergrad's picture

BUCNDC, I think the point isn't that someone is double covering, it's that the offense also has a scheme to counter the assignment football. It's not like the offense will say "whatever Josh Perry, go cover the pitch." There are blockers for a reason.

d5k's picture

Arc blocking plus constraint plays. A lot of the gashes were where they threw the change up or the right cross rather than the fastball or jab. Things like having the pitch man run the dive and switching up blocking assignments. It is an offense not just one play. And they are pretty good at playcalling within their scheme. Nfl playcallers with their condensed king James laminated bibles could learn a thing or two about clarity of purpose for your playcalling. Chip Kelly gets it.

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bucndc's picture

So you are telling me there is no way to defend the triple option? Then why would we schedule a game?  11 on 11  o matter what offense you run. They obviously execute better than our defense. Is execution on the player or coach,

irishfury's picture

I disagree.  The triple option is made to keep the other teams O off the field.  You have to score when you get the ball.  If we didn't have brain farts our first two times in the redzone this game would have been a blow out.  The triple option isn't built to come from behind.  The fact we put up over 30 points is amazing with how little we had the ball.  

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CGroverL's picture

After reading all of the above, your comment is the one that should be getting the upvotes. Playing the triple option "IS" assignment football, but Navy practices on how to get those "assigned" players where it is tough for the players to put themselves in the correct position. They are VERY good at it despite what has happened against different teams in different years. Navy's offense is going to be better on some days despite what defense they are playing against. Also, like you said (in a way), Navy's offense is built to confuse the defense with multiple misdirection and most importantly is made to keep the other offense off of the field. If it were up to Navy, both teams would have had six total possessions or less. I'm not a coach and don't claim to be, but I believe all that you and me said to be true to fact.

Also...J.T. Barrett's "brainfarts" (as you put it) DID keep this game from being a blowout...the Bucks lost out on points because of those mistakes and those points would have broken Navy's backs. Lastly....I know that all of Buckeye Nation is totally in love with Ezekiel Elliott, in my opinion, though: The BEST, biggest and fastest true running back that the Buckeyes have is Rod Smith. He got 2 carries for 6 yards. On his first carry he hurdled 2 linemen to turn a negative gain into a positive gain and his second carry was bottled up and he still turned it into positive yardage. It is like the Carlos Hyde situation. Hyde was Ohio State's best RB as a sophomore, but the staff was too committed to giving Jordan Hall (what a waste) and Boom Herron who was returning from suspension the bulk of the carries. That is the kind of thing that leads to a (6-7) season. Hyde was signed as a 240 pound FB that was capable of running a 4.4 second 40 yard dash. Rod Smith is the exact same size as Eddie George was (6'3", 235 pounds) only Smith has more moves and is faster than Eddie ever was. Smith NEEDS to be getting 10 carries a game at the absolute minimum. He is bigger and faster than any other true RB on the team. With all of the speed that the Buckeyes obviously have (even though they can't break a tackle to save their lives) Smith is the game changer...he is the one power back on the team. Just like Hyde during his sophomore year, Smith is getting overlooked.

What RB would you really want to get the ball on a 3rd and short or 4th and short? This is his last year as a 5th year senior and my bet is he goes to the NFL whether this Buckeye staff uses him or not. Sorry about the Smith rant, but I said the same thing about Carlos Hyde and was told how stupid I was then...but I was right then and have more than a feeling that I'm right now as well.

Great points and Go Buckeyes!

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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bucndc's picture

Smith whiffed on a block inthe game and JT got sacked. That's why he doesn't play. Did you see the play where Ezekiel pancaked a linebacker? That's why he plays and Rod sits.

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Dmac3212's picture

Nothing more a coach is a running back missing blocks. Doesn't matter how skilled of a runner he is....he want touch the ball with that type of an effort blocking.

Indy_Buck87's picture

Agreed 150%. Smith should be getting more  playing time. 

I know of only two things that are infinite, space and human stupidity.....and I'm not sure about space". Albert Einstein.

teakwood's picture

I'd Upvote you for the Rod Smith part.  Though i like Zeke, and can see him being a better back rod deserved those 4th down runs  and third and shorts.  He's a bully back there!!!  Once i get my comment game up ill get you that up vote!!!  I'll add this no one was blocking until the 4th Quarter I watched the game over 3 times and once in slow mo(missed CF that much) the receivers missed a ton Jalin, dontre they both were getting blown up Mike Thomas Devin it wasn't just the line.  If we could have stuck some of those outside blocks there would have been a ton of big plays.  Samuel did look good on replay  Spread that rock around and don't leave smith out!!!

Jhesse17's picture

The triple option is a great equalizer. And yes it is assignment football, which would be easy if the assignments stayed the same. But Navy will run it out of so many looks and run so many variations (different read guys almost every play, frequently went to unbalanced looks) that the assignments are rarely the same from one play to the next. Really the only way so stop it is to get it off schedule. If you can get them in a second or third and 12 type of play they don't have much they can run. But as long as it stays on schedule it's really tough to stop. Plus it's not like they ran the triple every play.

BuckeyeinGA's picture

Agree--I believe the defense played really well overall.  Navy is going to rush for 250-300+ on everyone they play this year.  I think we did what was necessary, made the adjustments (which is key) and played much better in the second half.  I fully expected to give up well over 200 rush yards and a few big plays.  The triple option is predicated on boring you to death so you blow your assignment on defense...if you are not assignment sound, you will give up a big play.

jonping67's picture

I was at the game and it was painful to watch the plays develop. Bosa was holding up the QB option, but we just couldn't get anyone on the RB option. I was hoping to see McMillan at middle LB sometime during the game, but he only played on special teams. It's a long season and I am glad we escaped with a win and no injuries. Bring on VaTech, we'll be ready.

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CGroverL's picture

It was painful to watch on TV as well. Good job on keeping positive...I'd like to have seen McMillan at MLB, too...but the staff felt it was a better idea to move Perry over and it didn't work as badly as everyone is acting as it seems his toughness along with the overall strength of the DL wore down Navy's trickery and misdirection while the defense seemed fresh despite being on the field as long as they were. Bring on VaTech!!!

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

Dmac3212's picture

I think McMillan didn't play cause his lack of speed to the outside....he can stuff the run though!

mh277907's picture

I also thought Jalin Marshall looked very explosive the few times he  touched the ball. Would like to see him get more carries.

buckeyebobcat

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Toilrt Paper's picture

The only way Marshall gets more touches is if Wilson gets fewer. 

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unknownmusketeer's picture

Unless we run a reverse to Jalin Marshall that ends up being a pass to Dontre Wilson who then does a hook and ladder to Curtis Samuel.

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UrbzRenewal's picture

Jalin Marshall was statistically our most effective rusher (down weighted against production).

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SOF_Buckeye's picture

This is not a dig at Dontre, but if that's what it means, then get Jalin more touches. I was impressed with him (and Dontre), and believe it's more than a good idea to have both as legitimate options.

"The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." Woody Hayes

teakwood's picture

Right on!!! He is elusive!!  Meyer has them (dontre) as dual starters Man i wish we could get all three of  them Dontre Jalin and Samuel on the field The D wouldn't know what to do those three look like game breakers

EwanJobi's picture

Sounds like our own version of the triple option.

TURD_BUCKET's picture

Offense spent a lot of time trying to find out what would work against the middies. In the end, running straight at them seemed the best option, and set up the long pass to Devin Smith. A work in progress on both sides of the ball.

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.”

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tcm1968's picture

Even with the "won't see it for years" wacky offense it's still disappointing to see guys make mistakes play after play. Defending the option is all about trust and sticking to your assignment. Time after time the linebacker didn't do what he was supposed to do and left the edge wide open. For sure we got better at it in the second half as we rotated linebackers around. Still though it's a red flag. You tell a kid his job is to cover the last guy in the option and over and over he doesn't do that it's worrisome in the big scheme. And not to pick on Luke but that has been a problem he has had ever since he received more in game responsibilities. Takes him too long to adjust. LB problems should have been fixed in the first quarter. Not after half time. if you tell a kid to cover the last man in the option and he doesn't do it time after time... next man up..

Go Bucks!

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Not easy for the DBs cover the pitch man when he is being cop blocked by their WRs.

irishfury's picture

I have never seen so many players dive for the knees.

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buckeye4life050233's picture

In this day and age I am surprised that there isn't an outcry to get rid of blocking like that.  It is crazy dangerous with guys taking your legs out.  That being said the way to shut down the triple option and make it one dimensional is for the guy who has qb responsibility to hit him hard every time he gets a chance so that the qb either a) pitches it sooner or b) get's timid and it throws the timing of the play off

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SOF_Buckeye's picture

^^^This X 100^^^

"The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." Woody Hayes

Indy_Buck87's picture

That was not happening.  A chop block is when a payer is being blocked high and a second payer cuts him. It is illegal as are cut blocks by wideouts on DBs occurring outside of the tackle box.  

I know of only two things that are infinite, space and human stupidity.....and I'm not sure about space". Albert Einstein.

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buckeye4life050233's picture

from what I saw it looked like the defensive line did a great job holding the opposition line from getting to the second level.  The linebackers were not filling the proper holes and as much as they say Perry has improved he still looks wicked slow to react and is just not fast enough to get outside like he was being asked to do. 

The Rill Dill's picture

The Navy O-line was using trap-blocks to perfection.  I saw Perry get trapped several times.  They are a very well coached team....FACT.

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tussey's picture

Here's the deal.  Navy is cutting all the d-line with one extra o-line men to then go cut the middle linebacker.  It appeared that the middle linebacker was responsible for scraping to the pitch man.  The entire game came down to whether or not we were able to get off the cut blocks.  When the ends were able to shed their cut blocks we blew up the outside plays and let to mistakes by Reynolds.  When the ends got cut their play was going to be successful because they had the numbers advantage on the edge.  Also we had no answer for their counter play.  As soon as we would begin to over play the options to the outside they would destroy us with they quick hitting counter that would hit the weakside A/B gap.  

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CGroverL's picture

I understand you are speaking of the edge and the OLB's ineffectiveness. The problem is that the Middies count for that in their play. Just as the defense has to play "assignment football", their blockers do, too. I'm sure that the extra TE that the Middies employed during the game had an assignment to keep the OLB busy. That is when the MLB comes in to play...and with the multiple misdirection and just 3 LB's that is a lot to take care of. Navy attempted just FOUR passes over the entire game. Maybe since Ash had what was close to a week off, he should have had the safeties cheat more and maybe the secondary should have been "assigned" more. Sure Fick has responsibilities, but the DL line coach is his boss and the secondary coach is his equivalent as "co-defensive coordinator".

Fickell is always pointed out as the guy messing up. The man has Meyer with him on the sideline, his immediate boss, asst. head coach, Larry Johnson there with him, and what is supposed to be his equal as a co-DC, Chris Ash there as well. If everyone is going to treat him as the Defensive Coordinator, why don't they give him the job instead of putting him on the sidelines with 2 of his bosses and an equal while he is still calling the plays and in charge of his LB corps where he hasn't had a decent MLB since James Laurinaitis? The man is more of a Buckeye than anyone else on the squad. Look up his history and see what his defenses were like with Heacock....If Fick was the DC and the DC only, I would possibly be on your side. It just seems sort of hard to me for him. He has the LB corps (without a decent MLB AGAIN), he is calling in plays and has to stare at 2 guys that have job titles that either mimic or surpass his. Fick may be the ultimate answer, but he is not the problem. How many other defensive coordinators have as much responsibility of Luke Fickell. The one guy being betrayed is the most solid, dedicated coach on the squad...and you may be right when you mention that he has too much to do as no coach in the nation does more.

I apologize for my relentless defense of Luke Fickell. He was born in Columbus, started 50 consecutive games in the middle of the Buckeye DL, was on the staff in the days of Cooper, and does more while bleeding Scarlet and Gray more than ANY other coach on ANY other team. I respect him and trust him more than any other Buckeye and always make an ass out of myself defending him. To me, he is EXACTLY what it means to be a Buckeye, plus he has been around longer than everyone else as well...and if you looked at the defenses of Heacock and Fickell, you see defenses that are normally in the top 5 when it comes to total defense and scoring defense.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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Ill_Buckeye's picture

Forgot about 'Tre?

My biggest take away besides the offensive line's abysmal play, was that Dontre Wilson looked like a completely different player. Not only improved, but I thought he looked like the best uninjured player on this team. Other than the early drop, he was electric. 166 total yards on 13 touches (12.7 avg), and the best avg running the ball at 7.2 ypc. I'd really like to see him get MORE touches

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tOSUperiour's picture

He's not going down with arm tackles this season.  At least not yesterday he didn't.  I would like to see him read his blocks a little better but that will come with better O line play.  Just seeing him run up the middle and gain 10-12 yards is awesome.  And to have someone like Curtis Samuel and Jalin Marshall  alternate?  Those guys are straight filthy. Let the Urban Meyer era begin!

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Kindell's picture

Powell also seemed to take bad angles and struggled in space. I also thought he should have been able to stop the first TD, even though I still believe his knee touched before.

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CGroverL's picture

Angles are the game when it comes to tackling which is why the LB corps seems to be struggling again. A solid MLB is the answer in my book. I agree about that first Navy TD, though. If the official would have first said the RB's knee touched before he touched the pylon, the play never would have been overturned, and the Bucks would have taken over on downs at their own 1 yard line. That is instant replay, though.

It is tougher to take correct angles when the offense is playing extra TE's which are allowed to just go downfield and block any player AWAY from where the play is going. That extra TE helps a lot and caused hell for the Bucks' OLB's and secondary. Navy may not throw, but their running game is no joke and is hardly ever shut down. They didn't pass for just 1,117 yards in 2013 because they didn't want to pass, necessarily. They threw for such few yards because they hardly ever have to pass. They threw the ball just 4 times against the Buckeye defense.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

I was at the game, and on returns, he has to stop dancing, pick a seam and go.  He seems more worried about making people miss.  With his speed, just hit it.

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CTBuckeye's picture

A lot of positives to take away from yesterday's game - first game of the season so bound to be some mistakes, but overall I think they played well and was a good game to build on in preparation for next week.

Right after I watched his first FG attempt easily clear the uprights I immediately thought - no worries about kicker for the next 4 years.

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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steveoz49's picture

The stat of Powell with 13 tackles is the most surprising to me.  I felt like I was screaming at him the most during the game.

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tOSUperiour's picture

Tyvis got burned and looked out of position sometimes, but to be fair, so did most of the DB's.  It's hard enough for the front 7 to stop that goofy triple option, but to constantly have your DB's on stopping the run for 60 minutes is definitely outside of their comfort zone.  Never thought I'd say this: Virginia Tech will be a nice break from having to play Navy. :-P

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buckskin's picture

The key with those tackles is how many were after a 10-15 yard gain.  Plenty.  I thought the D did OK, but was surprised C. Grant wasn't in the mix at the LOS more.  He was making tackles, but they were after the Navy backs had some good gains. 

Fatpants's picture

Too many new parts to expect a juggernaut in week one. 

I'll take it. 

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buckeyehub's picture

it will be an exciting season, thats for sure. i like how our team is young, and learning. it may not be ideal for a team with championship aspirations, but i enjoy watching new guys and gaining trust with players. 

“Anyone can run the option. I can run the option.” - Urban Meyer
Let's beat the snot out of *ichigan.

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tOSUperiour's picture

J.T. brought Sexy Back to Columbus today. O-H-'1-0'

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Bleeding-Scarlet-Grey's picture

I for one hope J.T. develops into a game changer more along the lines of Troy smith

Without lies there would be no truth!

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Eph97's picture

Jalin Marshall seemed a lot quicker than the 4.6 40 he runs. It's a good problem to have how to get Marshall, Samuel, and Wilson enough touches. Also, I was surprised Smith and Dunn didn't get used. I thought the big back was a key part of Meyer's offense.

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CGroverL's picture

They are the fastest Buckeyes that I "maybe" have seen on one team. My wish is that they would turn those jets down here and their to make people miss. They need to understand that if their stopping makes a defender stop, then odds are that they will be able to turn the jets back on and make defenders miss. I can't think of the last real time that a true WR from Ohio State wasn't tackled by the first defender to touch them. I love the speed...don't get me wrong, but vision and footwork make for taking it to the house just as much as speed does. .....Oh, Marshall is MUCH faster than 4.6 plus he probably has an even faster 100 as he seemed to have that EXTRA gear after the jets were turned on. Samuel seemed to have that extra gear, too.

I won't mention Rod Smith as I still STRONGLY believe that he is the biggest, fastest and best true RB on the roster. The reason I won't mention it anymore is that I have bitched like an old woman about it for over 24 hours straight plus the time I have spent here at 11W.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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Dmac3212's picture

You just mentioned him haha

73buckeye's picture

A really good major league pitcher needs more than one pitch to be successful.  He can have a great fastball, but needs to have a change up or curve slider to get big league hitters out consistently.  Elliott, Samuel, Wilson, and Marshall are all the same kind of runners, i.e. great "fastballs". Smith, Dunn, and Ball would be akin to a change of pace, something that shows the defense a different look. I think the Bucks will be better in the long run if they don't rely exclusively on one type of runner. Carlos Hyde showed there still is a critical need for a bruiser, a guy that can reliably get 2 or 3 yards. As an aside, I refuse to believe Rod Smith can't be taught to block. 

ernie

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Bleeding-Scarlet-Grey's picture

I see Dunn and Ball gone after this season if Samuel gets more carries, especially if Harris ends up in this years recruiting class. It's a shame because I think he is the big back that we need in those red zone situations instead of running those outside option sweeps with Barrett and smaller backs

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D-Day0043's picture

That's what they have EZE for. And if Harris commits, they will have him as well.

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CGroverL's picture

Ugh! Here I go again....

Smith is bigger, faster, stronger, and has better feet than Elliott. Those facts that I just wrote are just that...FACTS. Smith is what is missing right now. He had 2 carries against Navy. On his first, there was no hole and he jumped over both an OL and a DL to turn a loss into what was said was a 3 yard gain...what I saw was a 7 yard jump for a 5 yard gain. That run was on 1st down. The next 3 plays were runs with Elliott. Elliott got 3 yards, then 3 more yards, and then lost 2 yards on 4th down and the Bucks turned the ball over on downs. On Smith's 2nd attempt, there was absolutely no hole and he broke through out of the backfield and again turned a loss to a gain for 3 more yards.

There is no doubt in my mind (I am an idiot, but I know my Buckeye football just as well as we all think we do) that Rod Smith is the best RB on the squad and I believe the running game will struggle unless the staff figures this out. Why have Elliott be the starter when you have a horse that is bigger, stronger, and faster than every other RB on the squad? As I said before though...I said the same thing about Carlos "El Guapo" Hyde (the "El Guapo" title was given to him by me first as I gave it to him before his first practice as a Buckeye if anyone cares...We Florida people keep up with Florida high school players and I knew Hyde was going to be a stud when he signed) and was told how dumb I was then just as I'm sure to have downvotes for these comments. Bring 'em. Despite the downvotes and conflicting comments, my next sentence is FACTUAL. Rod Smith is the biggest and fastest true RB on the squad. He is what is missing. The absence of him is exactly why Ohio State did not have a 100 yard rusher against Navy.

We can only wonder what Navy might have done if Smith had been given 15-20 carries, but honestly...not having a 100 yard rusher against Navy's defense makes the running game look weak, and it doesn't have to be that way. Last season, Hyde wore defenses down, Smith can do the same, plus he has an extra gear to take it to the house that Hyde never had. Smith is the answer. Bring in the boos now.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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Dmac3212's picture

Elliot is definitely both quicker and faster then smith. He was the so called cj spiller clown coming out of high school....he has legitimate 4.4 speed. You are vastly under rating his ability

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Dmac3212's picture

Just look at 40 times....I just because you say something is factual doesn't mean it is. 

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Dmac3212's picture

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=112402&draftyear...

Zeke 4.41 and track star in Missouri not to mention Samuels blazing 4.3 speed. There is a reason rod been here for 5 years and doesn't get carries. He has gone through 3 coaches same result!

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CALPOPPY's picture

You gave Hyde the "El Guapo" nickname? That's a different history than I recall being presented here before. Did Ginter get it from you, then? Or am I misremembering?

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

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AtomBuckeye's picture

Vonn Bell must be on the field going forward. He is the best play maker on defense. 

AtomBuckeye

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buckskin's picture

He has one immeasurable others don't:  a nose for the ball.  He was around it darn near every play he was in there.

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The Rill Dill's picture

------wait until Erick Smith gets on the field.  

CGroverL's picture

If Vonn Bell was on a Heacock/Fickell defense he would be playing the "Star" position and would soon be feared across the country. Sure, he is definitely a big hitter and I love the kid (another upvote for you), but right now he is just part of a secondary that has not yet fixed its problems. I really can't wait to see Bell play more...I just really miss what Heacock and Fickell did back in the days of having the "Leo and Star" positions. Those were the days of the Silver Bullets and the coaching staff can bring that back with the talent they have on the roster now. This defense is different from Heacock's (Tressel always left the defense totally in Heacock's and Fickell's hands) and it isn't Fickell's doing. If you want proof, just look at how far the D has sunk since Fickell was chosen to keep things in order as head coach in 2011. Sorry all, but this is Meyer's doing. Do any of you miss Heacock like me? Fick needs to be made DC and dropped from his other responsibilities. Only then may we see what Fick learned from Heacock in those years of having top 5 defenses over 50% of the time and having top 10 defenses most of the other times. Quoted from Jim Tressel..."Jim Heacock is the reason why these Buckeye teams finish in the top 5 year in and year out"...

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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Eph97's picture

I refuse to think of Heacock's defenses as true Silver Bullets. When they played truly elite teams like USC, UF, and LSU they got shredded. The last truly great defense was the 2002 team, and before that Pagac's teams from 96-98.

kdogg72's picture

Totally agree I just watched the game again. Vonn Bell must start. He has a nose for the football and tackles well. I don't know the game plan so I don't want to bee too negative, but I am not expecting big things from Curtis Grant. He seemed slow to react again. I really hope I eat my words and he has a phenomenal season.

Hovenaut's picture

Good assessment on all phases yesterday.

Concerns remain with the o-line and the defense on the edges. There's no debating the uptick in talent on both sides of the ball.

My game ball to J.T., well deserved, along with honorable mentions to Samuel, Marshall, Washington, Lee and Powell.

Impressed with Sean Neurnberger, especially that 46 yarder. He drilled his first kick from a distance that's no gimme, on the road for the game's first score. Das Boot is underway.

Could have been better, could have been worse. 1-0, with a chance for 2-0.

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

Agreed Hov. Side note- There is absolutely no good reason for this comment to have a DV. Now, I know the Fight Club rules about downvotes, but really guys? I really hope it was a fat finger. This site is too good to fall under control of serial dv'ing asswipes.

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

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Crumb's picture

It's ridiculous the amount of weapons we have on offense at tailback and h-back.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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D-Day0043's picture

These guys are going to improve. JT is going to get more comfortable. The O-line is going to gel and the defense is going to get Spence back in a couple weeks. I expect Spence to be pissed off and ready to make plays after his B.S. suspension is over. 

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Balkestud's picture

The bad: I felt like our defensive scheme could have been a lot better. We needed a 4-4 with Curtis and Kwon in the middle which would have snuffed out that H-back trap they kept gashing us with. Almost 200 of their rushing yards were from that play alone. We didn't need two safeties for that offense anyways. Poor tackling again. Overall a very vanilla defensive game plan. JT was late on EVERY throw which more reps will hopefully correct. O-Line was pedestrian and I thought the play calling was pretty weak.Even Bollman thought the play calling was conservative.
The good: If we can keep Adolphus healthy, he looks ready to dominate. I thought the D played really hard compared with what we saw last year. They will be much improved without a doubt. Dontre looks ready to explode on to the scene, what a difference from last year! Mike Thomas just looks like a stud. Tom Herman will earn his money this year with JT but at least I think that the tools are there. It also appears that are teams units will be a strength. All in all a good win under difficult circumstances but we need to improve in several key areas to have a realistic shot at our goals

It gets kind of rough in the back of my limousine,

 

 

JohnnyKozmo's picture

completely agree-I had been saying in forums leading up to the game that a 4-4 would make sense.  Our corners should not need help over the top from a safety, so keep one on the sideline, and bring in the extra backer to blow up the option.

Oh well, a win is a win, and I think we will all be looking back on this game and be very pleased with the result. Navy is a legit team who will be sniffing 10 wins.

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Firmthyfriendship's picture

I was blown away by how much Navy was able to shorten the game with their time devouring drives. In the end it came back to bite them. Really glad OSU got to show their capabilities of explosive plays on both sides of the ball, the Achilles heel of a time-eating offense.

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Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

Most of what you read in this thread is true, but I think the team got two key things from this game:

First, they learned that they can win with JTB. I know we all heard good things from the team after Miller's injury, but it's always helpful to see it on the field...especially when it doesn't come easily.

And that leads me to the second thing...Navy gave them some adversity. This is so important for a young team. Navy is just good enough and plenty disciplined enough to make OSU fight to win. OSU showed some grit in the face of that adversity. They didn't play great football. Navy wasn't going away. And OSU won.

Good job, guys...bring on Va Tech!

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SE_CT Bucknut's picture

I think the author is crazy for not liking the DL play.  Washington and Bennett were awesome in that game and Bosa was sound too.  I think Darron Lee is going to be a star, and not just because he picked up a fumble.  He played pretty well and flashed all over the field.  He made some mistakes, but he made some great plays too.

Triple Option is a tough gig and Navy runs it beautifully.  Every player on the field for Navy is unselfish and blocks in a way that I wish our guys did.  When you play Navy you are really playing 11 guys on every play.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Navy win 10-11 games this year.  Navy is a good team, and they execute their offense as well or better than anyone else.

Most Impressive:  Washington.  He looked like a top 5 NFL draft pick this week, beating doubles into the backfield and blowing plays up.  He has the size and frame that Mike Bennett is missing.

Most Disappointing:  Elliot.  Granted it was a small sample size, but I was not thrilled and I found myself bummed when he got the ball, as I was wishing those touches would go to Wilson and Samuel.  I think (based on small sample size) that Samuel could end up as the featured back by the end of the year.  He is small, but he runs hard for his size.

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SHAKENBAKE68's picture

I saw a lot of missed tackles on defense. Eze may have been a little rusty do to his wrist injury. With this first and complex game behind them I feel we will see much improvement with VT.

There is no such thing as "friendly fire"..

Homey1970's picture

I like the reference to Tressel.  I see similar demeanor between Barrett and the Sweater Vest...cool, level-headed.

I think, overall, the team looked good.  Sure there's work to be done but, as the coaches said, that game prep is now trash.  They played better in Baltimore Saturday against a better Navy team than they did at home against them in 2009, and look how that season ended.  I'll take it.  

Homey1970's picture

R.B. Win.  If you think this team is going to the playoff, please take off your rose colored glasses.  I'll take a top 10 finish and a bowl win.

BuckeyeFanInBoulder's picture

Next fall just might be incredible.... but don't shortchange this one after Navy just yet.

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buckguyfan1's picture

You may be right, but i heard birds like you back in 2002.  You never know, but my heart says this will be a special year.  I'll love the ride and pull for my Team each week like there is no tomorrow.

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Homey1970's picture

Not saying this couldn't be a special year.  However, I'm being realistic with the amount of unproven talent on both sides of the ball. 

I agree, if Miller comes back with all of the underclassmen, I believe we'll not only be a playoff team but we might just be the favorite to win it all (except for the eyes of the ESPiN "experts").

Go Bucks!!!

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

OSU overall is a very young team with loads of raw talent. The most interesting part of this year is going to be watching the development take place game by game. This development or lack thereof will be on the OSU coaches, and as a side note, Dantonio and Narduzzi are experts at development. Hopefully, a new metric would be a scorecard for the coaches in this area.

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buckskin's picture

I thought the D-line played pretty good also.  Bennett and Washington were tearing it up in the middle, Schutt looked good in his time on the field; Bosa spent the whole day tackling the QB who didn't have the ball (playing his role perfectly in the triple option) and Miller/Frazier had good performances; all the while waiting for Spence to return.  Navy knew where to attack (the edges in the 1st half; more middle in 2nd) and their success was due to our backers and run support corners/safeties not getting off blocks and making plays, not the D-line.  Their job is not to make the tackles all the time, but to free up the backers with double teams.

tosubuckeye's picture

)f our back 7 Von Bell was most impressive as a tackler. This guy wrapped on every one of his tackles. Impressive.

tosubuckeye
 

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nm_buck's picture

Von had a good game.  looking forward to seeing more of him.  Hopefully

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scrotieMcboogerballs's picture

I agree with those of you commenting that the defense didn't play great, but my issue is with the coaches handling of the option. To defend the option, whoever has qb responsibility MuST attack the qb and make him toss, as opposed to sitting back and waiting for him to make a toss or run. The defender with rb responsibility should be blowing up the rb, regardless of what the qb is doing. The few times we hit the qb on the option, big plays happened (2 sacks, fumble for td). 

All this said, the coaches are professionals who know what they are doing, but i was perplexed on almost every option play that we refused to hit the qb and let him dictate our defense. 

"Who do you think you are?!?!...I am!!"  -Pete Weber, bowling legend and dominator of the English language

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Canukbuck's picture

For those of you being worried about our defense, let's go to the stats for our past two games against Navy:

  • In 2009, our defense game up 342 yards on our home field to the Midshipmen (only 48 yards less than at yesterdays game). 
  •  Dobbs, in 2009, rushed for 83 yards, compared to just 42 yards for Keenan (who is supposed to be the best QB ever to play at the Naval Academy).
  •  At home, the final score of 31 - 27 was settled when we intercepted a 2 pt. convert and returned it for the safety.  On the road, our offense and defense continued to improve during the course of the game (unlike the collapse in 2009) and covered the 14 point spread.
  •  Pryor was 14 / 21 for 174 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT.   J.T. went 12 / 15 for 226 yards with 2 TDs and 1 INT.  Have to say that J.T. played very well with a struggling O-Line in front of him (although they played a strong final 20 minutes of football).

We knew that Navy was going to hold onto the ball with their offensive system.  Some missed tackles lead to big gains and I agree that Von Bell should be inserted as a started, as didn't miss tackles and was great at wrapping up the ball carrier.  All in all, I think an offense that was breaking in 8 new starters on offense, against a good, aggressive Navy defense, did a very credible job.  The overall positives of this ROAD win, far out-weigh the negative issues, all of which can be addressed and corrected during this week of practice for the Home opener.  VTU will bring a stiffer test for J.T. and company, but with this first game under their belt, I think we'll see a far more confident group on offense and the return of the Silver Bullets on defense .....

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bdegroff's picture

Navy runs the triple option better than any other team running it. They'll average 370+ yards a game. Just like always. We can sit on our couches and talk about assignment football, but unless you have actually played against it, you have no clue. And neither do I. Why do you think McMillan didn't play? There was probably a lot of film watch and note taking during the last month. But, there isn't a team with a scout offense that will run it effectively. Missed tackles are fixable. Angles are fixable. We won't see this offense again, it's better to leave it be.

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MrBobDobalina's picture

That first FG from Nuernberger was boss.  I'm confident that he'll be clutch...for the next 4 years.

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

Nuernberger's first kick looked like it would have been good from 65. He will be a great addition to the team for years to come. 

How Firm Thy Friendship

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Mortc15's picture

3 things I took away: 

1) Whether it was coaching or the players, I can't figure out why the qb wasn't hit EVERY time they ran the option, whether he pitched it or not. I played qb In hs. I ran the option some. I hated nothing more than pitching it and still getting smacked. Thank heavens we don't see that again. 

2) I thought Samuel showed the best combo of speed and vision and patience in the backfield. Eze had his moments but he just goes without using much patience at times. Dontre is always a step away from 6. That needs to turn into 6 a little more often. 

3) Even though they didn't play great, the o line did show major improvement over the game. Whether it was navy wearing down or just the line getting comfortable, if osu gets by vt 2-0, I think this team is 8-0 heading to EL. But it hinges on the 5 up front, IMO, after watching the first game. I know that's cliche but last season crumbled bc of the secondary, not either line. 

Buck-I4Life

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BenArazi4's picture

Game ball goes to JT Barrett.  The kid played very well, especially considering he was getting harassed throughout the first half.  He made a couple mistakes but how can you not as a redshirt freshman who hasn't played a game since October 2012?  He had better starts than Miller, Pryor and Smith in any of their first games and I think he will lead us very far this year if the LB's can shore up their assignments/tackling.  Weapons on offense are ridiculous, Dontre Wilson almost break several returns/runs, Samuel looks great, Marshall looks great, and EzeE looked good in his limited touches.  Playcalling needs to be more straight forward and not 'fancy' at times.  Vonn Bell looked great and he is a sure tackler, Tyvis Powell has been playing solid for the longest time and props to Darron Lee for the plays he made, he along with the LB's missed quite a few assignments but I can see Lee becoming a force.  I think our LB coaching is still lacking, the guys don't know what their assignments are and a lot of runs were getting into the secondary.  O-Line seemed to get it together in the 2nd half and I am hella excited for this year, we will be a very good team with a couple more games under our belt.  This is a very young team and can't wait to see what we do this year and in the future.  I am willing to bet we make top 4 this year and even take a shot at the National Championship game.

 

 

 

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bucknut94's picture

I believe the buckeyes have a great future. Not bad for the first game. The O-line got it together more in the 2nd half. I'm not going to complain, it was a great game. I'm proud of the way the team hung in there. JT will have a great year. I'm still waiting for a pass to a tight end. :-)

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Montana silver bullet's picture

Kicking a 46 yard field goal as your first attempt, priceless!  J.T.'s first game in years, let alone on this stage, with this much pressure was more than acceptable. Speed and talent are in abundance.  Tackling still sucked at times.  Navy could hold a clinic on blocking for our kids and yes Fickel was late with adjustments.

The number of whiners with no experience playing the game, not to mention on a D-1 level complaining about this performance is the definition of glass half full-----------I watched the VT game too and Navy played better, I'm convinced they would have beat VT. in the first game of the year anyway.  Don't forget a team this young will progress much quicker than an experienced team.

Montana Silver Bullet

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CGroverL's picture

Ezekiel Elliott is not the best RB on Ohio State's squad. The biggest and fastest true RB on the squad is Rod Smith. Smith can also be a factor in the passing game proven by his (around) 50 yard TD catch in 2013. I'm sorry, but Elliott needs at least one more year in my opinion and there may be no room for Dunn, Ball, or both.

Smith is a 5th year senior...Smith is 6'3", 235 pounds just like Eddie George was...Smith is faster than Eddie George ever was. Smith was 3rd on the entire team in the 40 during his sophomore year when he asked coaches to try him at MLB because he wanted to get on the field...Smith can make defenders miss (it seems that only Miller can besides Smith)...Smith is big and strong enough to run defenders over...........Almost all of those facts CAN NOT be said of Ezekiel Elliott or any other true RB on the squad.

If Elliott was going to have a breakout game, it should have been against Navy. Am I the only one that is worried because the running game is not up to par? Elliott isn't rusty. He simply is no Carlos Hyde and the only player close is Rod Smith.

I will retire from saying this over and over, but as I said before...I said the same about Hyde and was called stupid. There is one problem here though. I said that about Hyde when he was a sophomore. Smith is a 5th year senior and there is a chance that Elliott will never be as good, big, strong, fast, or quick as Rod Smith is NOW. If the Buckeyes have a dream at the playoffs, it will go through the running of Rod Smith. This OL is not as good as the OL of 2013 and a bigger, faster RB is NEEDED. Please wake up, Buckeye Nation.....

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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Buckeyeinsc's picture

Tired of seeing people ragging on the defense. Before jt started to get comfortable and the offense found a rhythm late in the game the defense was on the field the entire game. Throw in the fact they were playing against a very skilled triple option offense they are not used to and still held them to 17 despite nearly 40 minutes on the field, I think the had a very good performance. An average performance on their part would've resulted in a different game in which the score would be much different for navy (20+). 

Fighting the good fight in SEC country. "Our honor defend"

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T-townBuckeye's picture

My takeaways from the game...

1) Defense could be good or bad, hard to say and we won't know anything until next week. Let up too many rushing yards, sure, but how much of that was navy's scheme is hard to say. Also the offense's inability to sustain drives much of the game may have lead to some tired players missing assignments. I liked some of the hits I saw, however.

2) Having dontre as our return man could provide an X factor that could really help us throughout the season. Give the guy space and he's going places, picking up serious yardage if not taking it to the house.

3) With a young quarterback the o line will be the most important unit all season. Establishment of the running game is crucial in JT and the rest of the offense finding a rhythm and moving the ball. Early in the game o line play  lacked and the offense suffered. If that trend continues versus a stronger v tech d we could have another nail biter on our hands Saturday. 

All in all it was a good win and I remain cautiously optimistic about the season. Hoping we can get it figured out this Saturday and get a big win that impresses some big time recruits. 

go bucks!

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GOOMBAY's picture

My five things:

  1. W
  2. No injuries
  3. Speed to burn on O
  4. Manageable deficiencies on D and O-line
  5. W

Extra credit: Opponent notwithstanding, who honestly would have complained with an 8/29 projection for a Barrett stat line of: 12-15/226 yds/2 TD/1 INT? (Forget the rushing stats)

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Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

Navy is a very disciplined....well coached....and tough team to go up against. Their offense plays into their hands in the fact that its not a common offense you see. I look at it back when the spread started to come about and teams who went up against the spread who didn't normally run it or defend it were somewhat clueless. Urban did say last week that we won't see the looks of the new defense until next week vs. Va. Tech. So I'm not really worried. I'm excited to see where this team goes and the development of a newly installed defensive scheme. Its going to be a great year. Aaaaaaaand as always......What's great about 1 and 0 is the chance to go 2 and 0!!

BoFuquel's picture

This game was wonderful. Your on the road ,playing at noon, the worst time of the day to start a game. You have a freshman QB, a one handed RB, a totally new OL, and we had one turnover. When in our history have we seen anything like this. I'll tell ya: never. You may be a fan for another 60 years, and never see anything like this again; enjoy. GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

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cunneda's picture

BUCNDC is an idiot

Cunneda

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BucksHave7's picture

Gauging the Buckeyes D vs the Triple Option is like trying to compare a good hitter vs a knuckle ball pitcher.  No comparision. Just frustrating to watch.  I liked the speed and athleticism I saw out there from the Buckeyes.   Lots to build on and so young too!

BucksHave7

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darbnurb's picture

My five...

1)  Our kickers are good.  Except we seemed to have more touchbacks on kickoffs than normal.  Is this a strategic shift?

2)  JT did great.

3)  Our coaches have some improvements to make with play calling and game management as well.  Hopefully they grade themselves too and make proper adjustments. 

4)  Arm tackles.  Our backs are quick, but seemed to get brought down easily with arm tackles.  Perhaps seeing Elliot just barely get the one yd for the first down is skewing my perspective.  #misshyde

5)  Seems like opposing rushers only needs to dive when they near a defender and it is an automatic 5 more yards.  Many times I thought, "Nice 2 yd stop...oh, wait, how did he gain 7 on the play?"  I saw many defenders waiting until the rusher comes at them to make the tackle rather than attacking the ball.  #missshazier

Tkebuck1's picture

Get over your jitters and Debbie downers. Like someone else said...You survive Navy. We did and now for adjusting  to the next team we face. Nice debut against a tough opener. 

BeatTTUN's picture

Now with Arm chair QB hindsight

You don't Beat Navy, you Survive Navy

Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan

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Spider1944's picture

All this love for Rod Smith? All I can say is that I don't see him hit the hole very hard. Reminds me of Saine. Me thinks his ship has sailed. I hope am wrong. I like the kid personally. 

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

Canukbuck's picture

There has to BE a hole to hit it hard and early on, our O-Line was hit and miss with their holes.  More importantly, Rod will get his touches once he learns the door swings both ways (i.e. he blocks as well as he runs the ball - whiffed on a block during a sweep and his man made the tackle for loss) .... When you don't carry the ball, you're usually blocking ....

DC-town's picture

This is the part of the season I don't miss...

Things like "go ahead and make excuses but the defense sucks", keep that kind of shit to yourself.  If you think you're a fan of this team, then it's worth acknowledging this is a tough team to prepare for, and it's a tough coming out game for a lot of going guys in a brand new scheme.  If you spent the entire offseason thinking we were going to have and instantly unstoppable defense, sorry, it will take some time.

Negativity and finger pointing...staples of whiny entitled fans everywhere, just lovely

'Piss excellence' -RB

Tkebuck1's picture

Kudos to the staff in getting this kid ready to go. Truly impressed with his composure in first outing. Navy's no slouch and we should be very satisfied with his composure. As offense opens up....B1G better look out!!

Scarlet_Buckeye's picture

My thoughts on the game.

QB - Still not sold on J.T. Barrett.  I thought he looked ok for a R-Fr, but then again the playbook was very vanilla.  The INT was AWFUL (and certainly the definition of a Fr mistake), but stuff like that is to be expected.  Better to get it out now, than suffer the very same mistake in a game like Va Tech, Cincy, Penn St, MSU, or Michigan that will actually make you pay for that mistake.  His TD pass to Devin Smith was a thing of beauty.  Perfectly setup by Tom Herman (in terms of play-calling), but certainly a read that Barrett still had to see & execute, and I was happy to see him underthrow Smith than OVERthrow the ball like Danielson said on the broadcast.  One thing's for sure... if we're going to compete this year, Barrett has to progress.  Now let's see what he can do vs. Va Tech.  (Note: I thought it was very telling that we didn't even see Cardale Jones for one drive.)

RB - Disappointing that Barrett lead all rushers in rushing.  I would rather see our top running back racking up 100+ yards than see three tailbacks with 40-some yards each.  I know this is going to sound crazy, but I think having as much depth at RB as we have is actually a detriment than a bonus.  We have so many studs at RB that we have to play them, and this prevents any one of them from 'getting into a rhythm'.  I think it's obvious our #1 RB is easily Ezekiel Elliott, but I was pleasantly surprised with Curtis Samuel's ability to run the ball up-the-middle, and I thought Jalin Marshall looked solid as well.  Even tho Eze is our #1 RB, it was painfully obvious to me that Dontre Wilson is easily our BEST weapon.  Out of the entire bunch, he looked the best (IMO).  My heart goes out to Rod Smith.  It seemed like every time he was sub'd in, he was sub'd out after one play.  Call me crazy, but I truly believe that Smith has the tools to be Carlos Hyde-esk.  Obviously not quite the same nor am I trying to suggest that they are even remotely on the same level, but it's glaringly obvious to me that the POTENTIAL is there.  He just seemed sooo dejected every time he was coming out of there (head held down).

WR - Call me crazy, but Devin Smith's game translates better to the Pros than it does in this Offense.  I think Smith will struggle to hit 800 yards receiving in this offense (simply because there are too many weapons and not enough footballs to go around), but I see his game translating VERY very to the next level.  IMO, he has the down-field-speed to get open at the next level; he has the soft hands to catch most of what's thrown at him; and I believe he runs some pretty nice routes (relatively speaking).  Unfortunately, there's just too many weapons who will require touches, thus limiting Smith from getting the # of touches he truly needs to be a 1,000 yard receive (IMO).  Dontre Wilson, again, as stated above, was (to me) obviously our #1 weapon.  I was happy to see Michael Thomas lead the way in REC.  I do believe that he's our best 'pure receiver'.  Guy has the hands, speed, size, and swagger of a top-tier receiver; just needs to put it all together.  Evan Spencer - while I like his seniority/leadership... he's 'JAG' (just a guy).

TE - Jeff Heuerman has the talent to be a nice TE, but with so many weapons and knowing how Meyer/Herman like to utilize the speed guys, I just don't see Heuerman having a big year.  Would love to utilize him more (as I think he could be a real mismatch for defenses), but I just don't see it happening.  Nick Vannett - not sure I even saw/noticed him once.

OL - The OL was a HUGE disappointment.  They did not control the LOS like I thought they should have.  Granted they kinda took over control late in the game and started having better luck, but I was severely disappointed with the play of this group, especially Elflein (perhaps my expectations for him were just too high based off of his brief success last season).  Decker didn't do anything one way or the other, so I'll say he actually looked OK.  Did Chad Lindsay even play?

DL - Mixed emotions here.  I thought Bennett and Washington looked AMAZING (Bosa looked pretty good too, especially when it looked to me like Navy was scheming/running AWAY from him), but I thought Steve Miller looked awful (Rashad Frazier looked better than Miller, IMO) and I was disappointed we gave up as many yards as we did.  I knew Navy was going to come out there and run their option/gimmicky offense... and I knew they were going to put up yards, but I was NOT expecting them to control/run over us like they did.  I'm in favor of Frazier starting over Miller for Va Tech.

LB - I thought Curtis Grant looked surprisingly alright for once.  Still don't think he's put it all together yet, but he did look  improved (which is good).  Darron Lee looked like our most physically gifted LB out there.  Looks like the hype re: Lee this off-season might be real.  IMO, Joshua Perry was quiet.  I don't recall seeing him much / him imposing his will on the game.  Another pleasant surprise was seeing Chris Worley get the time/action that he got, and I thought he looked good too when he was in there.  Maybe it was just me, but I didn't see McMillan or Booker at all at LB.  Not seeing McMillan there was a disappointment (for me); but probably about expected.

CB / S - It wouldn't even be fair to attempt to grade this unit, as there was a whole whopping 4 passing attempts.  I think Tyvis Powell looked great. He was all over the field.  Granted he missed a couple tackles (tackling in general for the team was very poor - Florida-esk - and NEEDS to improve IMMEDIATELY), but I thought he looked great.  He was everywhere and constantly around the football.  Doran Grant was a ghost, but (1) that's what you want as a CB and (2) Navy only attempted 4 passes, so naturally he was going to be a ghost.  I saw Bell a handful of times, and I heard Burrows was getting equal # of snaps with Bell.  Didn't really notice Conley/Apple.

P - We might very well have the best punter in the nation, in Cameron Johnston.  Love this kid.

K - Nuernberger looked alright.

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