Navy Notebook: Questions Still Remain on Offensive Line

By Tim Shoemaker on August 31, 2014 at 6:00a
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At Big Ten Media Days, Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer said this season's No. 1 concern was the offensive line as the Buckeyes had to replace four starters from last year's team.

One game into the 2014 season and that appears to still be the biggest issue for the fifth-ranked Buckeyes, who defeated Navy on Saturday, 34-17.

"I'm very disappointed. There is a standard set for offensive line play for many, many years and it's been enhanced by our line coach Ed Warinner over the past few," Meyer said. "The first two quarters didn't resemble an offensive line of Ohio State."

"I'm being hard on them, but they played much better in the second half. We'll evaluate the film and have to settle in on a starting five. We'll have to play much better if we want to make a dent in the Big Ten conference."

There were two spots still to be determined entering Saturday's game against the Midshipmen and those went to Jacoby Boren at center and Billy Price at left guard. Joel Hale, however, replaced Price in the game.

As a unit, the Buckeyes' offensive line struggled in the first half as redshirt freshman quarterback J.T. Barrett was under constant pressure in almost every passing situation. The group played better in the second half, but it's still nowhere close to the level it was at a year ago.

“I think the first half we made some mistakes and didn’t play as well as we would have liked. A lot of young guys and just some things happen," Warriner said. "Then we settled in and I thought we played really well in the second half and started to control the line of scrimmage better. A good defensive team, though, gave us some looks and some pressures and things and so we just had to hang in there and regroup at halftime and came out and played a much better second half.”

Rotating Linebackers

To the surprise of almost everyone, junior Joshua Perry did not start the game with the first-team defense at his WLB position where he had been listed as the starter. Chris Worley started in his place. Perry did play in the game, but it was at the MLB spot when he rotated in for Curtis Grant.

Against Navy, the move made some sense. Perry and Grant are bigger linebackers while Worley and Darron Lee have more speed so they started on the outside. Armani Reeves, who was listed as the team's starting nickel, also saw some reps in an outside linebacker position, while Cam Williams saw some playing time, as well.

“It was a unique situation, it was a unique game. We had guys playing some different spots," Ohio State co-defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Luke Fickell said. "We asked a lot of guys to some different things and you see that they all rolled through there so some guys played positions they didn’t normally play.”

Fickell said after the game it was a special game plan just for Navy to have Perry in the middle and that in future games he will return back to his starting spot at the WLB. Nonetheless, it was an interesting rotation against the Midshipmen.

Options at Running Back

It's clear Ohio State doesn't have a go-to running back like it did last year with Carlos Hyde. In order to replace that production, the Buckeyes are going to use a bevy of backs and that was on full display against Navy.

Including Barrett, Ohio State had four players rush for at least 40 yards as they racked up 194 as a team. Barrett was the leading rusher with 50 yards on nine carries, but Curtis Samuel (seven carries, 45 yards), Ezekiel Elliot (12 carries, 53 yards, TD) and Dontre Wilson (six carries, 44 yards) also carried some of the load.

Elliot struggled as the starter in the first half, but gained 50 of his yards after halftime. Samuel, who only got his seven carries, made the most of his playing time. It was easy to see why Meyer had raved about him all throughout camp as he looked like Ohio State's best option at running back.

"He has a special future here," Meyer said of Samuel.

Without a Hyde to carry the load, the Buckeyes will need to have consistent production from their multiple options in the backfield.

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Baroclinicity's picture

Can someone with some expertise comment on JT's throws?  To me they looked good, but they also looked effortless, like he could unleash it 70 yards if he wanted.  Seems like he's got a cannon.

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FROMTHE18's picture

Not sure about expertise, but arm strength is one area he needs to improve on, according to the coaches and recruiting reports. 

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Baroclinicity's picture

Welp, shows that I know nothing.  Thanks for the input.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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ibuck's picture

I've heard the coaches say they want to build up his arm strength, but that throw to Devin was 40-some yards in the air. And apparently JT took something off it, as he said he didn't want to overthrow him.

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Frimmel's picture

I wasn't seeing a cannon but I saw some nice tight spirals and it seemed like a quick release and that he was accurate. Aside from the INT which we can more or less put down to being in his first game I think we have a QB with some good mobility instead of a tailback with a QB's arm for the first time in quite awhile. If the staff settles on which playmakers they like and re-sorts the system around not forcing defenses to pick their poison with Miller JT4 will be pretty good.

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crusher's picture

The worst part about that int was that Spencer was WIDE open in the end zone right in front of JT. I attribute it to not having played in a game in year and a half. I don't think JT will ever win a heisman but I fully expect him to have a very good career .

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VarsityClubMD's picture

Wide. Open.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

He was spun around, pressured and running in the opposite direction and didn't see the receiver. Brax would've missed it, too.

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The Rill Dill's picture

Exactly.  I've heard at least three different ex-qbs, say how it is VERY hard to refocus after a spin move. 

D-Day0043's picture

He looked wide open, but there was a Navy linebacker about five yards in front of Devin and slightly to the left. JT's momentum was going to the left. If he would have twisted and threw across his body the Navy linebacker would have picked that pass off as well. That play was busted. He should have just threw it away, which I think he was trying to do, but he just didn't have enough juice.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

I can tell in warmups, I saw the same thing.  He throws it very effortlessly.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

The  80 yard pass and run looked like JT threw the ball as hard as he possibly could. That is a little troubling

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FROMTHE18's picture

I like Zeke's running style. Very similar to Carlos. The pass protection struggled primarily due to Navy bringing pressure pretty much all game. Until JT can demonstrate a consistent ability to get rid of the ball, that will happen each game. That big pass play to Smith really pushed the pressure back a bit.

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buckguyfan1's picture

I like where this young Team is at.  Much to work on, but tremendous upside.

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dubjayfootball90's picture

agree with you 100%. The upside on this young team is scary

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ibuck's picture

Just hope that some of that upside is realized Saturday night.

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Jbucks's picture

im suprised our O-Line performed so poorly especially since they go against tge best dline in the country everyday at practice

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robobuck's picture

It could be that they get clowned by the best d line in the country everyday at practice, too. But either way the experience will pay off as the season goes on. O Line is on position that usually improves greatly with age and constancy.

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Frimmel's picture

The issue is probably that they don't have the one guy they need at right guard so they're not playing guys where they play best. I'd look for them to have a much more set lineup for the VT game. I wonder if they've been shuffling guys around so much they haven't had a chance to get good at one thing.

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keep_it_down's picture

It takes time (actual game time) to develop good offensive line play, you have to get used to what the guy next is going to do. They say there should be an improvement from game 1 to game 2 and I am interested to see if that holds true but it will be a work in progress for the early part of the season. 

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Bamabucknut's picture

Where was Raekwon McMillan ?

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illich's picture

Where were the tight ends in the passing game?

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crusher's picture

For at least 10yrs now I hear every preseason about how great the TE's look and how this is the year we finally use them and then nothing. If I was a top rated TE I wouldn't go to OSU. A TE should get more than 20 catches a year. It's a real shame too because I think they are missing out on using some real weapons in Heurman and Vannett.

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BuckeyesMJ's picture

With Navy bringing so much pressure, I'm thinking the TE throwback screen would've went for many yards. The one we used w Stoneburner a couple years ago against Nebraska & Wisky was nice. It's also easy for us to say what we should've done the next day. Let's have a great week of practice, learn from our mistakes & have the shoe rockin Saturday night for Va Tech! It's also a very important recruiting weekend!

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tOSUperiour's picture

We don't give a Da*n for the whole state of *ichigan cause we're from OHIO!

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buckeye4life050233's picture

The tight ends were used a ton to shore up protection yesterday.  The middle of the field was wide open and who knows maybe they just didn't want to show it yet.  The tight ends are able to get involved once the offensive staff is not concerned with pass protection from the 5 offensive lineman

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D-Day0043's picture

Absolutely correct.

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crusher's picture

I guess we will see if that theory holds water next week. I did see the TE's split out a few times this week and still nothing. Last year was the most we used a TE in years and that was maybe 2 passes a game. Hardly eye popping numbers. I hope you're right and things change but I'm not holding my breath.

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buckeye4life050233's picture

When they were spread out they were used in blocking the screen pass or brought in short motion to block the backside

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crusher's picture

Exactly. They were used as blockers even when they were split out. How about actually throwing the ball to them. If they aren't catching balls and only blocking they are basically FB's or an extra OT. And if the OLine is playing so bad why not run a few bootlegs to get JT out of the pocket and give him a chance to hit the slot guy or a TE. You can make all the excuses you want but the TE position has been under used since the beginning of the Tressel years.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

To be fair, when your OL is struggling, you have to use the tight ends as blockers more than you would normally.  We'll hopefully see more from them against VT and definitely against Kent State.

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ohiobobg's picture

I expect we'll need the TE's blocking even more against VT. After that, it's down the field.....

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TheBadOwl's picture

There's a reason why we had to keep our tight ends in to pass block (hint: it rhymes with "sad offensive line" and it starts with a "b")

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Pass protecting help since the 5 O-linemen couldn't get the job done, Weren't you watching??

bafiesta's picture

No freshmen played on D because Navy has such a specialized system.  They need to concentrate on learning the base defense.  No need to spend precious time learning how to defend a system they might never face again. 

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The Rill Dill's picture

Apparently, the coaches don't feel like he is ready.  

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Toilrt Paper's picture

A wise decision not to clutter a  freshman LB's mind wit  a bunch of opposite BS that would only be used for the first game

allinosu's picture

Relax he will get his chance. I thought our o-line improve as the game went on. From what I say early they were getting beat by quicker d-lineman. They were not moving their feet and just reaching to block.

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BeijingBucks's picture

Seems to me last year we were all screaming when our new O Lineman got repeatedly owned last year. He turned out all right by the very next game... And this year is considered an elder statesman 

 

 

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allinosu's picture

I don't know if anybody else noticed but Navy would adjust to blocking our defender that was responsible for the pitch man causing a double on the QB and no pitch coverage. When we changed they changed to counter,  It's quite a system. We finally move the pitch coverage back with a quicker LB so he could escape the block.

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Frimmel's picture

I did notice that. It is easy to say just play your assignments but the Navy system will use that against you. Those Navy coaches have been running that system for ever. They probably knew what our calls were going to be before we did. Hence the advice to not try to "out scheme" them.

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bassplayer7770's picture

I didn't notice the defender being blocked, but it was bothering that nobody seemed to be covering the pitch man for a large part of the game.  Thanks for that explanation.  As for the player assigned to the QB, I felt that player generally succeeded on his assignment.  Still, the Defense still showed some poor tackling and allowed far too many big plays.  In the end, I still think they gave up too many rushing yards for me to feel comfortable.

The Offense clearly played better in the second half, and let's hope it only continues as the inexperienced OL gets better as the season progresses.  J.T. clearly made some redshirt freshman mistakes as well, but I'd like to think he'll learn from those mistakes and not make them again.  I love the number of Offensive threats we have, although there was the one big missed pass that I think Dontre should have caught.  Regardless, it was the first game, and I'd like to think some of the bad things that happened are now out of their system.

We'll see how the Passing Defense does next week.  Here's hoping for a great game.

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steveoz49's picture

after reading coach Fickell's quotes... all I can do is shake my head.  His "special gameplan" wasn't all that special.  Let's try keeping guys where they belong and letting playmakers make plays. 

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steveoz49's picture

Seeing as people are not agreeing with me... enlighten me, where did I go wrong with my comment?

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Menexenus's picture

I didn't DV you, but my guess is that people are tired of the "Fire Fickel" sentiment where people criticize everything he says. I think people are tired of that kind of negativity and consider it to be borderline trolling.  Just a guess.

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Ohio State linebackers have struggled for over 2 years, and he is the position coach.  Yesterday was an improvement in overall linebacker play, but there were still many moments where getting off blocks, over-running the play, not knowing where the ball was, was still a major problem, IMO.  Navy shouldn't have rushed for over 200 yards.  I long for the days when Ohio State linebackers made plays at the line of scrimmage.  Yesterday there were too many plays where the Navy ball carrier didn't meet an OSU linebacker, until he was 5 yards past the LOS.

What gets adjusted to get improvement?

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ohiobobg's picture

"Navy shouldn't have rushed for over 200 yards." - they averaged 330 last year, 2nd only to Auburn. I thought we did pretty well actually.

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Your opinion vs mine.... We are both entitled ours.   I don't believe OHio State failed by any means, but I won't say they played their "A" game. If that was their "A" game, then I smell trouble on the horizon.

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The Rill Dill's picture

Next week will be a be a totally different scheme, and I think we'll see marked improvement.  

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Qujo's picture

It's better than a guess, it is spot on. I am in the camp constructive criticism is good and warranted. Trolling never is. We played a unique offense and gave up 17 points. We played the D we felt would best defeat that unique offense. To go the route of the blame game already is the lazy mans approach and not objective. By the way I didn't down vote him either. 

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steveoz49's picture

i understand completely.  However, I am not implying to fire anyone.  It's been my understanding that Perry is probably our best linebacker and to start anyone over him and to play him out of position, on purpose, just didn't seem very smart.

tussey's picture

I understand why you think Perry should be on the field always, here is why he wasn't.  We had to have a balanced linebacker front due to their balanced front.  This years scheme is all about making things simple.  So we did, we played with two walk out backers on each side with the same responsibilities so that way we would be in theory ready if they ran to the left or right.  Perry spelled Grant in the middle bc Grant is the starting middle linebacker.  Hopefully that makes sense.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Childish, Urban got rid of the D coaching problems.

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IGotAWoody's picture

Dude, you can NOT play Navy straight up, using the same defensive schemes and personnel that you always use. You have to specialize, you have to see what they're doing, and you have to counter and adjust. That's what we did. Yes, there are going to be times when that Navy offense makes your D and your coaches look stupid. That's what they do, and they're very good at it. Their limitation is that they don't have the versatility in the passing department, but that's by design. They run that triple option about as well as it can be run.

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Qujo's picture

+1 - I think the challenge for some is not understanding the challenge of the Navy unique offense. They only want the "glory days" every game. Let's see what we do against VT this week to gauge if our D and linebackers have stepped up their game. 

"Tough times don't last, tough people do" - Gregory Peck

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IGotAWoody's picture

Absolututely! Likewise, many people don't seem to understand that both the offense and defense will need some time to build their chemistry and get to a point where they're hitting on all cylinders. Early in the season, you should expect to see a lot of hit and miss, out of both units. As the season progresses, what the coaches want, and what we as fans should hope for, is constant improvement.

I think this performance yesterday gives the team a lot to build on, and hopefully, we see a little more cohesion and a better performance against Va Tech.

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ohiobobg's picture

Exactly!!! This was a great test for our D - and we passed. Next week is a great test for the O.

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D-Day0043's picture

Spot on. They had a good game plan and executed it well. Only gave up 17 points and won. Goal accomplished.

People are getting to the point that they are not going to be happy unless the defense shuts a team out every time. If you have a defense that can hold opposing teams to under 20 in college football today, you are doing good.

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mtrotb's picture

Like to see Samuel get 15 carries or so.  Did better job than Elliot.

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BuckeyeGrownFloridaLiving's picture

Samuel is faster so he would do better in a situation with poorer blocking. When there was good blocking, Elliot had the vision and that's why he'll likely remain the #1 back.

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ibuck's picture

I didn't see the game, just radio. After hearing Urban so often talk about "making someone [defender] miss," I am concerned. Especially after hearing Doug Lesmerises, cleveland.com, say:

Obviously, the Buckeyes have speed. But I wonder how much wiggle they have.

For you folks who saw the game, do you agree with that?

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tussey's picture

They really didn't have he space to juke someone.  I will say that Samuel is very good a spinning as soon as contact is made and so he typically gets an extra few yards.  Same thing with Elliot, he did a good job with showing some of that power.  

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Toilrt Paper's picture

EZE had most of his carries early in the game when the O-line was under-achieving.

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What I saw from Barrett was a passer. They can say "distributor" or whatever, but he anticipated receiver locations and led them with the ball.  On the second possession of the game he threw to Wilson. 20 yds downfield in the middle. where he was going to be,  not where he was. It was great to see. 

First down throws worked very well for him - I'd like to see Herman use 1st down throws to create a tendency for opposing defenses to set up 1st down runs.

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

I was disappointed with the team physicality.  As a team, it seemed we were hesitant to initiate contact at about every position.  Hopefully some of this is related to first game jitters.  

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cinserious's picture

This might have something to do with Buckeye defenders trying to protect themselves from Navy blockers diving at their legs.

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

I'm sorry but that's a huge cop out. I'm talking about offense as well as defense. And I think the middle of the defense did as well as any unit.  I just thought aggressive, physical play was lacking. 

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MN Buckeye's picture

We had a tough time stopping the outside pitch until the 4th quarter.

Zimmy07's picture

Navy was cut blocking the LB responsible for the pitch man.

it wasn't taking out the LB but it was slowing him down.  I think in the 4th there may have been players getting to the pitch man who weren't assigned to him.

Plus I think Bosa started knocking his man into the backfield routinely.

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Mortc15's picture

Samuel and Barrett were definitely the highlights. I was getting tired of my buddies saying "osu is/was down 14-13 at one point to navy. They couldn't score for a while. 370 rush yards?!" 

What about FSU and bama? Much closer games than ours were. Navy is a better team than some give them credit for. They do what they do and they're outstanding at it. 

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TheBadOwl's picture

Oklahoma State shit the bed like three separate times in the 4th quarter. FSU got lucky.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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ibuck's picture

Haven't heard that bed expression in a long time.

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And yet crab legs still somehow looked "Heisman form." He had 1 outstanding play for a td. It's all about the storyline though. 

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buckeyepastor's picture

I have every confidence in Warriner to help the offensive line get sorted out.   The coaches mentioned settling on a starting 5, which will help.  While having the depth to rotate more guys in is nice, a team needs to be clear about their starting unit so they can gel together and get the reps together they need in game situations.   

In terms of the linebacker situation, I know it was a "unique situation," but Armani Reeves being brought in to outside linebacker is not helping me feel confident about that position.   

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SOF_Buckeye's picture

My take for what it's worth... running game and plays seemed predicated on the OL situation; once that is sorted out, a more consistent and wider array of plays and personnel will be seen.

Linebacker play / scheme is still a wonder at this point. Part of it, particularly for this game is the uniqueness of Navy's triple option. However, they didn't have an answer the majority of the game to get the pitch man, and using a safety/corner at times seems desperate or shows a lack of confidence in personnel. In addition, again, I know, Navy is unique, but I don't want Kwon to disappear all year like Vonn last season, and then wonder why he didn't get in sooner.

I like J.T.'s touch. While he may not have a cannon, I didn't see him overthrow a receiver at all. I don't expect Braxton in the running game, but I like the fact he will run to keep the defense honest.

One note- in the opening it cites J.T. as leading rusher with 50 yards, then states EZ had 53.

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Agree, at the Kwon comment. I'm ready to see what he can do.

ibuck's picture

 it cites J.T. as leading rusher with 50 yards, then states EZ had 53.

EzE gained 53 yds but lost 9, for a net of 44.

BTW Dontre had 43 yds rushing, 46 yds receiving and 53 yds returning kicks, for 142 all-purpose yards.

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Dmac3212's picture

Defensive backs are what truly shuts down the option attack. Go take a look at how fuller single handily dominated Georgia tech triple option last year. I really miss that hard hitting safety. 

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As the season progresses and the O Line settles into being a cohesive unit the running game will be solid. The Buckeyes have a nice combination of Thumpers and slashers that will put pressure on defenses.

Pass protection will be key moving forward, if the O Line is steady, JT will have the opportunity to pick teams apart.

Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan

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AndyVance's picture

If it is possible, I think I like Ed Warriner even more than I did before the game. He took a group of first-time starters who got jobbed in the first half, made the appropriate adjustments at intermission, and they made a much better showing in the second. This group is going to be fine, as they were last year after a soft opening.

The tight ends did what was needed, shoring up the aforementioned weakness in the line against a defense that was bringing consistent pressure. They'll have their day.

Fickell schemed around "sorcery and blood magik" with an unusual linebacker rotation. It got the job done - give Coach a break.

I said it several times yesterday: Barrett is legit, as are the Midshipmen. This is going to be a great season, perhaps not unlike 2002: lots of blood-pressure-raising halves followed by lots of #WINNING. Time and change, my friends. Time and change.

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BeijingBucks's picture

Anybody that complains about this young Buckeye team and the adversity they have overcome in the last couple of weeks has no soul. I for one just relish the unexpected surprises coming this year and hope they help reach the W column

 

 

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Whiners will be whiners, they aren't happy unless gritching. The same were cheerleaders before the game.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Navy was a terrible team for us to discern anything about the defense just from the strict assignment mode of this game and the fact they threw so few times. The Buckeye defenders practiced and practiced on being in a certain spot on every play. There was ZERO room for improvisation or creativity. Miss an assignment and you get a long run (like what we saw). Ash's revamped defense was not and is not going to be perfect so quickly, especially when it was so schematically handcuffed yesterday.

People forget that we were also playing against highly-trained military personnel who are taught to be super efficient at everything they do outside of football. Of course they're going to execute their offense perfectly. It's their nature. They would've run for 250-300 on anyone.

I doubt VT will run against that DL.

Super pumped about next Saturday night. Wish I could be there.

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cinserious's picture

Jalin Marshall looked pretty comfortable in the 'H' back role.

Where was Bri'Onte and Rod Smith?

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bassplayer7770's picture

Rod Smith played a little bit, but I'm not sure where Dunn was.

Jalin looked great.  It's nice to know both Dontre and Jalin can play and be very effective and dangerous for the opposing Defense.

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CC's picture

Rod Smith was pulled after at least 2 of his touches.  When he came off the field he looked upset.  It wasn't a good look.

Toilrt Paper's picture

Smith was on the field Dunn might not have made the traveling squad. It is impossible to take four deep at every position on the allowed traveling squad number.

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Thanks for that.  I was wondering where Dunn was in the mix.  In my view, he is, or should be, the best for between tackles and was missed particularly in the short-yardage jam situations.  I'm sure he'll have his day and he'll make the most of it.

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Dontre Wilson looked like a BEAST.. Why is nobody talking about the job he's done?

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Many prefer talking about negatives. Note below.

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Dmac3212's picture

My negatives

1. offensive line early struggles...lack of domination in the run game/pressure up the middle in pass game

2. Play calling....cant stand it, been hating on the predictability, and how Hermans ttys to out cute the defense in key moments.

3. Struggle tackling, Vonn bell played much better than Cam burrows. Dbs couldn't get off the blocks down field, didn't really see anyone come up and lay the wood. We could really use a Mike Doss. 

4. Lbs were alright...didn't get out to the pitch man. They definitely were not overly impressive.

Offensively I would really like to see them stick with Elliot/Rod Smith and Samuel. I like a rb getting a lot of touches, apparently Meyer doesn't considering Hyde was his first 1000 yard back. I still believe we can have the same power rushing game. It is just very difficult when the Rb's are not getting the touches. There is almost too much talent and rotation out there. Same goes for the WR position. Urban needs to stay with who ever is hot and not try to please everyone. 

zebiraross's picture

Vonn Bell needs to be playing the entire game unless he's getting a breather. He actually makes tackles behind the 1st down marker, unlike Powell who only seems to make tackles after the other team gets a 1st down. Not to mention he's always around the play even if he's not making the tackle. Yes Powell made a unforgettable play against scUM, but it's Vonn Bell time.

Washington played the best game out of any of the defensive line.

Samuel is a little ball of speed and strength. He also blocked VERY well. Zeke better be careful, Samuel is legit. And I love Zeke as much as anyone.

JT played good. Put him behind last year's offensive line and we would of put up 50. The one time he wasn't pressured he threw a td to Smith.

Once the oline is settled down I'm excited to see JT get the ball to Thomas/C.Smith/Green etc.

Thank goodness we have Wairner as our o-line coach, or I would be seriously concerned. This is going to be the key to our season.

Zeb

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

There is almost too much talent and rotation out there

No such thing, especially with the prospect of injuries as we've all seen.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

Dmac3212's picture

I jury's aside.....football especially the spread offense is a rhythm game. It's like the saying if you have 2 webs you don't have 1. Obviously the more talent the better....I just want the buckeyes to find a feature back. Thunder and lightning work for me....but switching rbs every play sometimes is a disadvantage. Many rbs get stronger with the more touches.

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socalbuck2014's picture

Rod Smith is going to waste.

Pay it forward

Bourbon Meyer's picture

I know Navy has a unique running attack and they can make your D look stupid, but I for one was tired of seeing our D look stupid because the last three teams we played made our D look "crazy stoopid"! Not being a troll but a concerned Buckeye backer: this is Fickell's last chance to be a real Buckeye; a good one. If not, Florida Atlantic or Texas State await.