If I Were King of Ohio Stadium, I Would...

By Michael Citro on June 12, 2014 at 1:00p
109 Comments

It seems like every year, Ohio Stadium undergoes some kind of expansion and/or renovation. This year, nearly $14 million is going into the old girl on the banks of the mighty Olentangy, which will spring for new FieldTurf,  the installation of permanent lighting, waterproofing some concrete, and about 2,600 additional seats.

While it’s great that nearly 3,000 more people will be able to watch the Buckeyes in person at every home game, I’m not that big on stadium size arms races. If more than 100,000 can fit into the Horseshoe on any given Saturday, I’m good with that.

But all of these renovations give one pause to stop and think about what that kind of money could do to make the stadium improvements we really want to see.

What would I do if I were king of Ohio Stadium?

The first thing I’d probably do is to reduce the number of seats—without actually removing any. Take the average rear end size of an Ohioan and make that the new standard for determining how many seats should go in each row. This would exponentially improve the in-game experience. It would be nice to see a game in person without having to wait until it’s over to breathe again, from the press of bodies on either side.

Even if that reduced the capacity to 75,000-80,000, it would be a much more comfortable day at the stadium.

Aside from that, here are five changes I’d make if I were in charge (in addition, obviously, to making games more affordable).

Restore the roar

Rather than stuff the students into both end zones, I’d put the students in the bottom sections all the way around the Shoe. This should have the effect of spreading the “atmosphere” around the stadium. When loud people are around you, you tend to be loud too. It would likely make the Horseshoe a much louder place. In college football, louder is better.

Beer Me

To offset some of the lost revenue from reduced ticket prices and the loss of a few seats, I’d bring in the suds. Let’s not pretend there aren’t thousands of gallons of beer being consumed within a few hundred yards of Ohio Stadium every Saturday. Rather than having people “slamming” several beers to get them through the game, just sell it to them inside.

Some people worry that beer sales in the stadium will lead to more drunken idiots causing problems. But tailgating contributes plenty of that already and it’s largely due to people hurriedly trying to get their drink on.

Whether it’s those guzzling in the parking lot because there will be a 3-4 hour window until their next beer, or those who smuggle in a bottle of something harder than beer that they pound much too quickly for fear of getting caught, drinking fast certainly ups the ante.

Some college stadiums even reported fewer incidents after starting beer sales. So take all the arguments off the table and tap those kegs of delicious Yuengling, which is what my choice would be if I were king of the Shoe.

Creature Comforts

I wanna go back, I gotta go back
Our house. Better with cup holders and beer?

Movie theaters humorously tout their “stadium seating.” What stadium are they modeling their seats after? I’ve never been in a stadium that had seats as nice as today’s modern movie theaters. From movable arm rests with giant cup holders to nicely cushioned seats, movie theaters have stadiums beat by a mile in the cushy seat department.

I’d give everyone a nice comfy chair with a cup holder on one side and a retractable tray on the other side to hold your nachos and hot dogs. And let’s go ahead and heat the seat for those late November games.

Net Gain

One of the most frustrating things in the age of technology is not being able to access the net on your mobile device. Whether you’re trying to send a selfie to Facebook (note: please stop sending selfies to Facebook), streaming another game so you can keep up with Appalachian State’s latest upset of Michigan, or sending a barrage of texts that won't go through in an effort to find your drunken friend who got separated from the group, a lack of connectivity on game day just plain sucks.

I’d get that bandwidth expanded, pronto. Because how else could I check in and try to earn another point in the Four Square war I have going on with my friends? Every one of those flag poles for the other B1G schools atop the stadium would be replaced with cell towers (the flags would remain; only the poles would change).

Clear the Air

Finally, something has to be done about some of the musical selections. Sure, we’re all sick of "Seven Nation Army," but that’s not even the biggest offender most Saturdays. There are some truly dire selections being chosen by the OSU game presentation crew. It happens at the Schott, too.

Any silence that must be filled musically can be handled by the professionals—the best damn band in the land. If they need a break, there’s plenty of Steely Dan songs available, or we can break into Vico’s Robbie Dupree albums.


Finally…

Some of my Twitter followers weighed in with their desired changes. Several noted they wanted beer to be sold on site, because everyone loves an eight dollar beer (except the guy who requested 10 cent beer Saturdays—although I'm not sure we need this at the Shoe, ever).

Other suggestions included 3-D hologram replays on the field, required standing on third down and close yardage situations, and moving the flagpole. Many echoed the ones I'd already decided upon (wifi, moving the students closer, etc.), so I guess many of us want the same things.

What would you do with absolute power over the Horseshoe?

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0therion0's picture

Not going to lie. I had a hard time making it past the thoughts of enjoying an ice cold Yuengling in combination with breathing room while witnessing the home opening kickoff, live. It's not a tear... I'm just sweating from my eyeball.

I stopped being cool before it was cool to not be cool. #TrendSetter

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cronimi's picture

Beer in the 'Shoe would be great, but Yuengling?! That stuff's brewed ~100 miles from State Penn U. If I were king of Ohio Stadium, only Ohio beers would be on tap! Bud/Bud Light -- brewed a few miles north of campus -- for the macro drinkers, and Great Lakes/Columbus Brewing/Fat Heads/etc. offerings for those of us who drink craft beer. The revenues would stay in Ohio, as Woody intended. 

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Michael Citro's picture

Bud? Bud Lite? Get your own Horseshoe, sir.

Hovenaut's picture

Yuengling?

I spent a few years in south central Pa in the 90's, and became educated.

I also went to undergrad school.

Hate Week runneth over

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NatiBuck's picture

The idea of The Shoe being reduced to only 75000-80000 seats made me upset

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mobboss1984's picture

I agree. Reducing the number of seats is crazy, but if you move the students around the field. That would be cool. Probably would become the best atmosphere in college football period.

Always be yourself, express yourself, have faith in yourself, do not go out and look for a successful personality and duplicate it.
Bruce Lee
 

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CC's picture

Econ 101 - Reducing the supply (seats) would drive the price up.

So, less people and higher prices - ouch.

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UrbanPirate's picture

Emotionally, I totally agree. There's something about boasting a 100,000+ that comes across with a bullet. However I do have some food for fodder:

After I graduated from OSU in 2010 I moved to Oklahoma City and happened upon season tickets to Sooners football. For anyone who hasn't been, Gaylord Memorial Stadium is a great place to take in a college football game (I'm still partial to the Shoe no doubt, but it's fantastic). It seats a respectable 82,000 but puts the fans so close to the field you feel like you're in the action. I had a friend visiting for one game who just so happend to be a graduate and life long fan of that school up north. Long story short-he was so impressed and taken back by the electric atmosphere that he told me after the game, "For the first time in my life I'm actually questioning whether bigger really is better for CFB stadiums."

Now we all know the sleepy fans at the big house are a far cry from what you get at the Horseshoe, but the point is that reduction would help to concentrate the base. At least I think that's what the point was, either way I can't wait to see the newest expansions this fall!

Just... Go Bucks.

    

CC's picture

The only concentration it would do is to make sure that those with the bigger wallets get in the door.  Less seats = higher prices = more grey hair.  Mind you there's nothing wrong with that IMO, but it's not going to "Concentrate the Base" in the way you suggest.

Buckeye419er's picture

Taking my pregnant fiance (last season) to a game was kind of nightmare with everyone sitting on top of each other. So I can agree to an extent. I also am not a huge fan of the B section posts, but I understand they are a necessary evil. 

spqr2008's picture

Transparent Aluminum! 

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GoBucks713's picture

Somebody has been watching too much Star Trek 4

Hello Computer

 

-The Aristocrats!

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TraSmith4's picture

lol you do know that Transparent Aluminum actually exists right?!?.... however not completely sure how it would improve the stadium though lol... might actually make some things a little awkward!

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GoBucks713's picture

Yeah I know about it. It's more fun to reference Star Trek 4 than ALON. 

-The Aristocrats!

hit_the_couch's picture

How about they get a current band from Ohio to do some sort of rework of the Ohio Players' O-H-I-O song instead of that overused White Stripes' song.

Im not a fan of the Black Keys, but they are popular and not too mainstream; maybe they could do it.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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AMSS's picture

Not sure if you are aware but since you brought them up.

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AkronBuckeye13's picture

I'm seeing them in Columbus on September 5th  and then going to the home opener against VT the next night. Going to be an epic weekend.

hit_the_couch's picture

I mentioned the Black Keys because off hand I can't think of popular current bands from Ohio, as I only listen to indie and underground (excluding older stuff). I don't listen to them, hence what I said above. But no, that's not even close to what i'm talking about as for a rework. Actually, that's not a reworking of the Ohio Players' song at all. That song would put people to sleep in the stadium, when that crap current song used is meant to pump people up. 

Not sure if you've actually heard the Ohio Players O-H-I-O. I wrote it O-H-I-O because that's the title and what's in it. They actually use the O-H-I-O as fans do but just a different tempo. And it's funk; funk pumps people up, but a reworking wouldn't have to be funk. but it's gotta pump up the crowd.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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hit_the_couch's picture

In case you never heard it. It could easily be clipped and looped like 7 nation army. Not saying this has to be used, or will, but it's a plausible suggestion.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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AMSS's picture

Just to clarify, I never said it was anything like O-H-I-O. You mentioned the Black Keys so I posted the song which you were not aware of. It was obvious that you knew nothing about the Black Keys because you said as much. I have heard O-H-I-O but not really having done any remixing myself I would have a hard time seeing something being done with it.

BTBuckeye's picture

I bring liquor and/or beer to every game (shocking right?!). If they start selling beer, they might actually give us thorough pat downs and try to enforce a policy...so instead of drinking for $10 a game we'd have to pay crazy prices. I'm fine with a no alcohol policy because it's basically a BYOB situation.

Unless they give us Bodhi on tap. Then I'm cool with it.

 

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Zimmy07's picture

They sell beer at U of Houston games & I think it's about $8 for a 16 oz cup.  When it's in the high 90's or low 100's you can go broke before halftime.

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Buckidelphia's picture

Update & add more restrooms; The Shoe isn't as bad as Wrigley but it's pretty close. I also agree on the bandwidth; how about they crack open that endowment and give back to the People! 

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southbuc's picture

Obviously you never went to the shoe pre-renovation...

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SirMarkusCombs's picture

Slamming brews at Varsity Club > wanting to leave the game at halftime to go slam brews at Varsity Club.

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osu07asu10's picture

The first thing I’d probably do is to reduce the number of seats—without actually removing any. Take the average rear end size of an Ohioan and make that the new standard for determining how many seats should go in each row. This would exponentially improve the in-game experience. It would be nice to see a game in person without having to wait until it’s over to breathe again, from the press of bodies on either side.

14 inches my friend. that is what the price of admission affords you!!

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Stinson's picture

There are a few good points on here, but I think reducing the capacity to 80k would be counter-productive in efforts to "Restore the roar." 

And Students owning AA-deck would be ideal, but not even close to practical. The crowd noise isn't worth upsetting university donors and big spenders. It happened (to a degree) when we moved the basketball student section court-side, but this is a whole different animal. 

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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alust2013's picture

I'm not sure why AA deck is expensive though. They are pretty bad seats unless you just want to be close to the players. I sat in the 3rd row of 11A one year, and that was pretty fantastic, but I wouldn't want to be any lower.

...and _ichigan still sucks.

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Stinson's picture

Agreed.

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

THEOSUfan's picture

I've paid serious money for AA, but the truth is that you miss all kinds of stuff that happens on the field.  If you want to see everything, the first 20 rows of C Deck is awesome.

As a, let's say, "wider" man (5'9, 230),  I am all in with widening the seats.  My son (6'3", 270) sat next to me for the Wisconsin game, and the only thing that made it tolerable was that I was on the  aisle.  If you get 3-4 guys that size in one row,  you are losing at least a seat.  But making that change still does nothing about the fact that the guy in the row behind will have his knees in my back and I will have my knees in the back of the person in the row in front of me.  But you gotta just embrace that because the space between rows is not changing.

As far as the beer issue, I'm torn.  I would enjoy drinking one $8 beer during the game.  On the other hand, I would not enjoy the guy near me who has 15 of  them and pukes on my daughter's leg.  I would prefer not going to prison.  I would approve if no one was admitted unless they passed the screening process and fit into one of 2 categories: 1) responsible drinker  2) nice drunk.  Since there is no reliable screening test  available, I'm going to vote for what we have.

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psibuck's picture

I'd like to see seating similar to NFL or MLB stadiums - individual seats with arm rests/cup holders.  I wouldn't be a fan of the fold out tray mentioned in the article.  It would encourage more people to remain on their butts.  Ohio Stadium already has enough of that with all the gray hair in attendance.  More standing, less sitting.

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OSUSMC's picture

I can say as someone who has had to clean the shoe after games that individual seats would really suck. Much easier to slide a 50 gallon trash bag along the bleachers.

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psibuck's picture

I can appreciate that.  I spent 3 years cleaning the Schott after games/concerts.  That's only 17-19K seats.  I can't imagine over 100k.  LOL. 

YTOWNBUCKI's picture

I would like to see the RED endzones go away and just keep it turf like the old playing surface. 

Those things are definitely not scarlet.

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alust2013's picture

The could check tickets with seats better. I never enjoyed being forced out of my seat because someone else is jamming in with their friends when their ticket is halfway across the stadium. Either that or make student tickets general seating. Then again, I never liked the student section very well anyhow.

...and _ichigan still sucks.

NW Buckeye's picture

Interesting take on distributing students in the lower tier to increase the noise.  I just wonder if that would really work.  I'm not an engineer, so I really don't know the physics of amplifying the sound in the stadium.  Are there any sound techs out there who could give us the specks on noise distribution / amplification in Ohio Stadium? 

I know that Quest field in Seattle (Seahawks turf) was designed to amplify all the sound within the stadium.  However, most stadiums were never designed with any idea of sound in mind.  The bowl like structure of most stadiums most probably amplifies the sound like amphitheaters.  But Ohio Stadium is kind of unique in it's design.  There should be some type of algorithm that could be applied to figure out the optimal placement of the noisiest fans to achieve your desired outcome.  

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

If we're going to do 3d holograms, why not have a simulcast hologram at 5x scale projected at just below c-deck level?  Use them for instant replays too.  Except it would be awkward when the other team punts and the actual football flies through the holograph field and blinds our return team...

The Rill Dill's picture

Philly Brown does not approve of something distracting him during a punt return.  Too soon?

Vico's picture

Any silence that must be filled musically can be handled by the professionals—the best damn band in the land. If they need a break, there’s plenty of Steely Dan songs available, or we can break into Vico’s Robbie Dupree albums.

YES

 

I can't believe I ate the whole thing.

Michael Citro's picture

Consider this post the equivalent of one upvote for Vico.

hit_the_couch's picture

+1 haha

At 1:23 it looked like he started to channel some of Rick Astley's famed moves from 'Never Gonna Give You Up,' but either the director said know or he realized that it's something that only Rick himself could pull off.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

HotSauceCommittee's picture

How about local band 21 Pilots. They are receiving some national love, but not too much. Many have them work on something.

Citrus's picture

I kinda like the closeness of it. If I wanted to comfortably recline, I'd watch from home. 

Black Keys would/should do a new kickoff tune. Ohio band, great choice. 

Beer. Yes. Beer. I am fine with the fact it will probably be spilled on me. 

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Bolt's picture

Coat the stadium with some sort of Buck.I.Guy repellent. Let's see...what's something he'd never go near? I got it! How about dignity?

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Stinson's picture

Taking away field-level TV cameras would spell Buck-i-Guy's resignation in a heartbeat.

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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ibuck's picture

I want more fans to act like me, and to bar the fans that I don't like.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

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CALPOPPY's picture

Ummm...the stadium? How about coating Columbus in that repellent?

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

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CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

Love the idea of bringing in the beer.

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buckeyepastor's picture

I like the idea of reducing the crowding effect, though I'd still like attendance to be near 100000.   The stadium up in that whore of the North I've always thought felt much smaller than the 'Shoe, and that they simply pack people in much tighter, which really isn't much to brag about.    

Personally, I don't care how comfortable the seats are because I don't go to games to sit.   I despise being asked by those behind me on a third down play to sit down so people sitting on their duffs can see.   First, it should be announced on the scoreboard not to ask people to sit who are standing, especially at critical points of the game.  If you're not willing or able to get off your butts for the Bucks, you can watch at home.   We already have enough people sitting too much of the time.  We don't need to encourage more of it.   

MORE BLACK KEYS at OSU games.   I'd love to see Little Black Submarines replace Seven Nation Army.   

 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Citrus's picture

It is soooo much better to stand! 

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RedStorm45's picture

Remove the luxury boxes and "club seats" for the hob knobs.  They barely show up for kickoff or before the 2nd half anyway.  Plus, it's an opportunity to get to 110,000+.  Those people add nothing to the loudness or atmosphere.

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DefendYoungstown's picture

University wound NEVER remove em', those seats are massive revenue generators...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

Stinson's picture

I'm pretty familiar with Papa John's Cardinal Stadium at Louisville and they sell beer in the stadium and also no bleachers -- all chairbacks with cupholders. The downside to that is the seats are a red plastic and fade in the sunlight (many of the seats look pink now). In the cold weather, they're much more prone to break and they're constantly being replaced. I honestly think bleachers are the way to go for the majority of the stadium, plus they'll keep capacity higher.

Beer in the stadium will come in due time. No way around it. 

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I love all of the suggestions.  Wider seats, cupholders, trays, beer, better music, better cell phone coverage, and get the students closer to the field are all things I'd suggest, too.

Other suggestions included 3-D hologram replays on the field, required standing on third down and close yardage situations, and moving the flagpole.

 

The seats should mechanically tip you up on those third down and close yardage situations so that you have to get your ass up.

If I may throw in one suggestion, and this is a real pipe dream but that's kind of the point of this article anyway...they need to replace the cement pillars in B and D decks with clear material so that you can see through them, with them hopefully being as sturdy as the current pillars.

Class of 2010.

GoBucks713's picture
Transparent Aluminum

Thank the guy above that referenced Start Trek 4

-The Aristocrats!

BuckeyeStrong2's picture

Beer - Sell Bud/Coors/Miller Lite products but also bring in some of the local craft beers.

Wifi - I agree totally. It 'seems' like if you get within a quarter of a mile of the stadium, your cell connectivity starts laughing at you.

Students in AA (haha) - I sat in I believe it was 21AA row 2 for a game once, and could literally hear the F-Bombs from coach Vrabel to get some kids fired up. Aside from being close to the guys on the sidelines, as mentioned before it would probably be better to get into the first couple rows of A-Deck instead. To each their own.

Music - Fire the person that chooses the in stadium music and hire me.

 

Last but not least, since I would be king, I would bring back "The Hive" from the team. If they want to do quick cals in addition thats fine, but The hive comes first!

 

southbuc's picture

I heard recently that at the South Carolina games they bring in a temporary cell tower to handle the traffic.

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

I'm all for the improved Wi-Fi.  

I'm all for selling beer in Ohio Stadium.  It should be only beer brewed in Ohio though.  Great Lakes, Moerlein, Mad Tree, Rhinegeist, Mt. Carmel, etc.  Drink local.  Just like what the Reds have done with the Reds Brewery District.  

Also, I am a fan of having the flag pole where it is located.  I think it is awesome that we have ROTC raise the flag before each game during the playing of the National Anthem.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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daveyt11's picture

Not to mention. I love when our kicker hits it

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hetuck's picture

Students in AA deck is feasible. Give the top corner of South Stands back to the visiting team and restore C deck to OSU fans. I'd also put the visiting band in folding chairs along the north wall next to their bench to add seats for more paying customers. 

I'd restore the rotunda to its original state. That includes coating the concrete to blend with the adjoining sections. Combined with the stained glass, it is a visual treasure. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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TraSmith4's picture

Put tiny HD cameras in the players helmets and let fans be able to buy special glasses or helmets and then decide which players camera they would like to experience the game through maybe on the goal line you want to switch to the EzE cam or on D you want to see what Raekwon is seeing... the ultimate point of view experience! Keep the beer outside the stadium I want the college experience with my kids there with me not an NFL experience.

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daveyt11's picture

+1 works for NASCAR

@OSUDefender's picture

The Colosseum in Rome is almost 2000 years old and it had a retractable roof to shield spectators from direct sunlight.

Noon and 3:30 kicks in September can be brutally hot, to the point that you routinely see fans taken out on stretchers. If OSU expects fans to shell out $80 apiece face value for the likes of Western Michigan and Tulsa, maybe they could work on making people more comfortable.

By the way, I totally agree about the wireless access. Time to upgrade to current standards.

 

 

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HandsOfSweed's picture

Upvote for you. I was just going to log in and mention that the Rotunda is just an homage to the Pantheon.

PlanningBuck12's picture

If we're going to go the hologram route, lets have a hologram Nutron Man perched high above the Bell Tower. To get rid of the other three poser bone heads. Bring back an Ohio Stadium Tradition. I miss hearing the Nutron Man Dance song. 

PlanningBuck

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn" - Woody Hayes

The Rill Dill's picture

The still play the Neutron Dance-----EVERY game.

741's picture

Downvote for misspelling of "neutron" and lack of awareness that the Neutron Dance song is played at every home game.

Huge upvote for the idea of Hologram Orlas King!

Way better than Hologram Tupac or Hologram Michael Jackson.

cdub4's picture

Wi-fi and wider seats as people said. More restrooms, the lines are ridiculous.

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yrro's picture

1) No piped in music. The band should have specific motifs for each quarter and for all star players. Like a big tuba cheer for the O-line, or a fanfare when we end a defensive possession on a sack.

2) Bigger, better TV's in B-deck.

3) "quiet" and "loud" sections, interspersed. If you are old can't stand up and have been a buckeye fan for 50 years, you get a quiet section. Everyone else is a "possibly standing room only" section. Spread them out so that the noise still gets all around the bowl.

4) I like having student seating in big chunks, as it encourages them to be rowdy. But putting more of the chunks around would be great. It is so lame that the seats right on the field are held by the people who care about the game the least on the one side.

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RBuck's picture

If I was the king of The Shoe I'd give myself a loge.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

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741's picture

Wow. Thank goodness Michael is not stepping in to Gene Smith's shoes any time soon! I am going to take a wild guess his background is not in finance or business. (I keed.)

Some thoughts regarding reducing the number of seats in Ohio Stadium:

If for sake of argument the powers that be decided to reduce the number of seat from approximately 105,000 to 75,000 seats, that would equate to 30,000 fewer tickets sold per game. Let's say the average price per seat in the stadium is $70, so that equates to $2,100,000 less ticket revenue per game.

Multiplied by seven home games per year that is $14,700,000 less revenue per year the Ohio State Department of Athletics has to spend on things like coaching salaries, scholarships for non-revenue sports, new facilities, and upgrades to existing facilities.

So, what would you want to give up? Should we go back to spending less on the coaching staff? Maybe scale back the renovations to WHAC? Are we willing to step back and accept that our Ohio State Buckeyes are no longer competing with the elite programs of the college football world and relegate ourselves to the second tier?

I suppose that in a reduced seating scenario the university could raise the ticket prices accordingly to an average price of $98 per seat (times 75,000 seats) to make up the difference and stay revenue neutral. (I don't think beer sales could possibly put a dent in a loss of $14,700,000 in profit.)

Also, regarding the notion of making "the average rear end size of an Ohioan... the new standard for determining how many seats should go in each row" I say this: I am OK with this - as long as pricing is on a sliding scale. If your ass is an ample but "average" Ohio ass, you pay the average price. But if your ass is enormous, you should pay proportionately more. Further, small-assed citizens should pay a lower than average price if we are going to be fair. What we are talking about here is pricing per inch of ass - and that is something I can get behind.

 

 

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RedStorm45's picture

$2.1 million game / $8 beers = 262,500 beers needed to sell in order to recoup the lost cost.  That's doable.
 

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Michael Citro's picture

I doubt the seat reduction would be quite to 75,000 seats anyway. Probably more like 85 or 90K. The latter number was the approximate capacity when I started attending games, I believe...or it might have been 95K.

741's picture

Yes, in that scenario every man, woman, and child in the stadium must pound three and a half $8 beers per game. My 11 year old nephew is capable of pounding Mt. Dew's at that rate, but he is exceptional in that regard. Not sure about beers though.

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Kingbuck12's picture

Only people under the age of 35 should be allowed inside. And add more seats. Screw scum and there 112,000   We can top that. Let the down votes begin. 

Kingbuck12

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Michael Citro's picture

I'm 47 and I can stand and scream as long as any student.

741's picture

I'll put my 76 year old mom up againt 90% of all OSU home game attendees (excepting the stupidly drunk ones) in the standing and screaming department. She earns it.

+7 HS
Stefan_wannie's picture

I would like to see another huge score board on the other side of the field as well. I hate having to turn around to see the replay of a huge hit or something like that. And if they added another scored the P.A. system would be better too and be able to hear a lot better by having another big speaker in the middle of the Ohio State logo. 

stefan_wannie

+1 HS
jhart's picture

1. Beer

2. Individual folding seats

3. Student Seating in both end zones & 25 yard line & in

4. Maximized Wi-Fi and cell phone capacity

5. Over hang/roof around C deck to provide shade (retractable teflon fabric, maybe?)

6. No more Seven Nation Army (something unique to Ohio State can be crafted)

7. More/improved vendors and restrooms

+2 HS
bigtenspeed's picture

A few years ago my wife and I had seats in the top row of one of the B-dexk sections in the south stands. It was all folding chairs. Best seating experience I've ever had. Pleant of room. If I wanted to get a drink or sonething I could just move the chair and get it. At the end of the game didn't have to wait for the row to empty to leave.

+1 HS
741's picture

On beer sales: I just crunched some numbers... I wanted to try and figure out what it would take to finance Michael's 30,000 seat reduction with beer sales only, just for the fun of it.

So, with 75,000 attendees at a typical game under his luxurously laid out ass paradise plan, I thought an estimate of 30,000 beers being sold was a reasonable expectation. (Let's say one in three visitors choose to have an adult beverage, and one in five of those who partake choose to have a second beer.)

Assuming there are seven home games per year, that means 210,000 beers are sold in a season.

Let's also assume Ohio State has a cost per unit sold of $2 per beer (to pay the distributors, buy the cups, pay the people that actually sell the beer, etc.) so there is a cost of $420,000 coming out of the gate to sell the beer.

So, to generate a net profit of $14,700,000 we need to generate $14,910,000 in revenue - divided by 210,000 units sold - which equates to a break even price per beer of $71 per beer!

Who's buying the first round?

 

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

A hologram game like in Star Wars with gladiator monsters would be a great thing to watch, after TBDBITL of course.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

+1 HS
BED's picture

RESTORE THE ROAR

Rather than stuff the students into both end zones, I’d put the students in the bottom sections all the way around the Shoe. This should have the effect of spreading the “atmosphere” around the stadium. When loud people are around you, you tend to be loud too. It would likely make the Horseshoe a much louder place. In college football, louder is better.

SO MUCH THIS

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The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

buckskin's picture

Rip out all the seats so we fans have to stand, hand out megaphones and air horns (with ear plugs) at the gate, and hand out free alcohol to everyone (have some fancy stuff for the money people) and it'll be the craziest environment/stadium in the world. 

What are we doing with sarcasm now?  dots, fonts or let people figure it out?

 

 

 

+2 HS
Poison nuts's picture

What are we doing with sarcasm now?  dots, fonts or let people figure it out?

Great question...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

buckeyedude's picture

When I go to an OSU game, I yell my head off, even when I'm in the north upper deck with the blue hairs. But I really don't want to stand the whole game. I can yell just fine, sitting on my ass. I'm not paying $100+ to stand for 3 hours. Sorry.

 

 

741's picture

In all seriousness my ask list is short - and similar to many of yours.

1.) Massive improvements in wifi and/or cell coverage. (I laugh every time there is a "Text 40757 to Vote for Brutus" or the equivalent - almost no one can sucessfully complete a text message in that place!)

2.) More and improved (men's) restroom facilities. The lines are ridiculous.

3.) Please do not run out of $3.50 Dasani waters at halftime on the first and second home games of the season - it's hot out there!

4.) There should be an ass template at each entrance to the stadium - like the one your carry on luggage has to fit through at the airport. If your ass cannot pass through this template, you must pay a surcharge.

+2 HS
Crumb's picture

I'm torn on the beer issue, while I don't drink I think the alcohol free Shoe is very family friendly, but I would be interested in seeing the Horseshoe drunk after a tough home loss. I think with the reduced inhibitions of many fans other teams would be fearful for their lives to play there. Can you imagine if TTUN had won in say 2012 and the crowd had been fueled with beer? They'd still be finding bits of Taylor Lewan in the Olentangy.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

+2 HS
roamingbuckeye's picture

the crowd was (is) already fueled with beer ... and whiskey and rum and vodka and anything else that can be snuck in with a flask/waterbottle stuck in a waistband

"I just cant wait to play football." -UFM

Crumb's picture

That's true, during last year's Indiana game a drunk guy next to me tried to pick a fight with a marine, the drunk guy's wife left him and he was so wasted he didn't notice for about 45 minutes. I had to laugh a little at it but also was something I wouldn't have wanted kids to see or hear.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

AkronBuckeye13's picture

What's a "home loss"?

+2 HS
Crumb's picture

May we never find out!!!!

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

+1 HS
otrain2416's picture

I like the idea students all the way around the bottom of the field. I would not want to reduce the seating capacity though. Supply goes down, demand is still high, and ticket prices go up even more. 

TheNorthernBuckeye's picture

Hang a 2014 national title banner 

"You're an angry football team, and I'm proud to be your coach." - UFM

+4 HS
Max Power's picture

I would love seeing the students closer to the field but that would surely piss off the dinosaur boosters that inhabit the shoe from the 20 yrd line to 20 yrd line (AA/A Deck).

I think that STANDING should be mandatory on 3rd down...hell during the entire game. I have actually been haggled by our aging fanbase for standing up and blocking their view (like they can actually see with those 80 yr old eyes). Last time I checked, the Shoe isnt a golf course so a little hoot N hollerin' is all part of the gameday experience...not to mention a homefield advantage.

To combat the presence of a geriatric crowd, I suggest that only 5% of attendees may be over the age of 65 and these folks must be approved by the students. Criteria for approval may include capability of long term standing, volume of voice and ability to maintain a keg stand for 10 seconds (springing for a couple beers during the gamewill help with the selection process).

Beer is delicious and should be readily available to be enjoyed during a visit to our favorite place on Earth. (In all seriousness, its a crime that I can buy a cold one at the Schott but have to smuggle in tiny bottles of Jack into the backbone of arenas at OSU). Again, beer=delicious, OSU football=great experience. Who wouldn't want to experience one of the greatest apectacles in sports without the opportunity to indulge in a crisp $8 beer?

Finally, the seats in the Shoe should be expanded by at least 6 inches on each side of said seat. Not every ass fits the 5 inch space allotted by the currwnt seating arrangment. And for the love of God, wearing deodorant is mandatory for admittance into the Shoe (or for going out in public in general). It amazes me that some people can splurge on a $75 football ticket, yet pass on a $2 RightGuard. I don't want to attend an OOC game, sit in 100 degree ball soup and have to smell a 300 lb dude becoming riper as the game goes on. Do everyone a favor and avoid smelling like month old unwashed jock strap.

Oh, and Michigan fans pay triple and are not allowed to partake in any of the delicious suds or the ever delicious Horseshoe hotdogs

-1 HS
Max Power's picture

no more obstructed view seating. If I wanted to watch the game on a screen I would save my ben franklins and watch it on my couch

+1 HS
Homey1970's picture

Ditto!  I was in the shoe on Monday with my son and pointed out the obstructed view seats to him...amazed they're still there.

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

I agree with this ... I've picked up B Deck tix for big games and was happy to go for face value to get the atmosphere .. but I expected a problem before I spent the money.  I'd imagine unsuspecting people get pissed when they get stuck behind a support in B deck (my experience) or next to the press box in C deck.  Those seats next to the press box, particularly on the south west side, are a joke and someone should feel bad for selling them.  They should at least install a hot tub up there for people if they're going to pay to not see the game.

bigtenspeed's picture

I just want to watch a game played on real grass.

+1 HS
GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Bingo!  I'm not too superstitious, but since we installed field turf we haven't done as well/tatgate. There's something about playing on grass, I miss seeing stains on opposing players.  I really miss the old uniforms as well, they were so unique and bold.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Homey1970's picture

Ejection seats on every scUM fan's seat...controlled by "fan-cam" voting. 

+4 HS
Bugsyk's picture

Probably a different slant, but I'd like to see them build the Stadium Scholarship Dorms under the South stands.  Perhaps a student cafeteria with view overlooking the field.

+1 HS
MAVBuck's picture

season tickets. the rest is just gravy

+1 HS
MordenoftheSith's picture

I'd like to see them put a retractable roof, that way when DLOL is in town, we can close the roof up so it would be so loud that not even Hoke himself can hear or feel his stomach rumble.

If you only knew the POWER of the Dark Side.

hetuck's picture

For everyone complaining about seat size, I strongly urge you to rent one of the cushion backs. That guarantees you get your allotted inches and no fat ass can poach.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

+2 HS
741's picture

I have them. A fat ass can't poach, but they can encroach.

+1 HS
OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Let's be honest....if I were the King of Ohio Stadium, I'd talk strategy with Urban during pregame, dot the "i" before the game, run out of the tunnel with the team, put on a headset, blame Fickell for everything that goes wrong on both sides of the ball, drink the team's Gatorade, continually give Urban my opinion on everything happening during the game, and then eat cold pizza with Urbs in the belly of the stadium after a loss (should such a miserable event ever happen again).

Wait ... if I were the King of Ohio Stadium ... I'd turn into Jerry Jones ..  Mind = Blown.

chicagobuckeye's picture

They don't need wider seats what they need are individual seats. I fit fine on those seats and I am 6' 2". I am a normal sized guy and I fit fine. If you are too big for your seat in the individual seats then that is your problem as opposed to making them bigger. Take the extra revenue from not decreasing the number of people and pay for some way to actually differentiate between seats. 

+1 HS