OSU: 2013 8-1 Title Favorites?

February 16, 2013 at 3:49p    by Ross Fulton    
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Whosisbrew's picture

All this hype is freaking me out.

AngryWoody's picture

I second this.

Our Honor Defend!

Buckeye Beast's picture

It doesn't freak Bama out this year & it didn't last year. I think Urban mirrors that team mentality.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere, & Michigan still sucks

JozyMozy's picture

Completely agree. I should be excited, but the anxiety is starting to creep in.

ih8rolltyde's picture

Not specific to your post, but anxiety is bred of fear and confidence is bred of understanding.

I'm confident we will be in the picture.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

mitchjacobsen01's picture

I hope this doesn't get to the players' heads.  At the same time, if they can't deal with the hype of being highly rated and getting everyone's best shots every week, they're not ready for Alabama yet.

PWLafferty. TBDBITL. TRow.'s picture

^THIS

"I'm up there with Chris and Dave Pass, getting ready to broadcast that game, and that band came out of that tunnel, I was wiping tears out of my eyes and all the memories came back." ~Urban Meyer

THE_JUICE's picture

We should go into every season ranked highly and expect to compete for the NC game.  Our guys will get used to it real quick.

AndyVance's picture

What irks me is the Oregon hype... When does it become clear to the masses that they are the most overrated program in modern history?

lljjgg's picture

I would also mention that they have a new head coach, weren't able to get through their own division last year undefeated, etc. 3rd isn't terrible for us, though, I just think Oregon's going to come back down to earth without Chip Kelly around. From what I've heard, despite their OC being their new HC, Chip Kelly was both their HC and defacto OC. We'll see what Helfrich can do, I suppose. 

Personally after Bama and OSU, I like FSU or Clemson better than Oregon if we're talking about non-SEC title contenders.

smartfootballrankings's picture

Florida State and Clemson are each +3000 (30-1).  That's below Stanford, Louisville, Notre Dame, Michigan, and even with Texas, and Oklahoma State.

OurHonorDefend09's picture

That's because you NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER bet FSU, Clemson, or ND. Don't ask me for scientific proof, but that's my only college football betting rule and it works.

Don't give up... Don't ever give up.

ih8rolltyde's picture

Some awful human with fat fingers mistakenly gave you a dv. I did all I could with my one upvote.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

KillerNut's picture

It was corrected with my up vote. I would not usually up vote this but a brother needed helped out

MN Buckeye's picture

Agree that Oregon is way overrated.  Alabama and tOSU should be strong favorites with everyone else the next level down.
That said, it will be hard for anyone to go undefeated this year.

Triv's picture

I actually disagree one Oregon being overrated this year, and here's why:
They return 8 starters on what was already one of the most dominant offenses in the country. Sure, Stanford shut them down by stopping the run. But when you return a freshman quarterback, one of the most electric athletes in the country, and the entire starting WR core, the passing game is almost guaranteed to improve (as I expect OSU's too as well). With an improved passing game to compiment an already impressive spread running game, Oregon's offense could look better then ever
Defense returns 7 starters. I know everyone gets down on Oregon's D, but they are returning several key members of the D and I anticipate at least somewhat of an improvement from them.
If Oregon manages to miss a bowl ban this year, and Bama stumbles in an SEC game, Oregon vs. OSU could turn out to be the title game. That would be one of the most exciting offensive national championships ever seen

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

Kaceybrown's picture

In your opinion(or anyone's opinion), what are the chances that Oregon faces a bowl ban/reduced schollies?

Triv's picture

Reduced scholarships IMO is all but guaranteed, and I'd say a bowl ban is definitely a possibility. The only question is when does the NCAA hit them

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

81Alum's picture

The press loves flashy things that they can put on their highlight shows - ergo, Oregon with their offense. As long as they have the current offense, they'll be highly ranked... and overrated. Unfortunately for Oregon, and the press, offense doesn't win Championships, and they'll come down to earth sooner or later.

BROSEPH's picture

in modern history?  I could think of many teams that I would consider vastly overrated than Oregon in the past few years.  Oregon has won 2 BCS games in the past two years.  Made it to a NCG where they lost on a GW field goal.  Something like 7 losses in the last 4 years combined?  Not saying they project to be good next year, but they most definitely lived up to a top 5 team over the last 4 years.  By that logic, one could argue that Ohio State is just as overrated year in and year out as Oregon is (and some will make that argument as well)
Florida State, Oklahoma, even Notre Dame and possibly Texas sans Vince Young have a much better case of being the most overrated teams in the past 10 years or so.  

cplunk's picture

I agree with you in that I probably wouldn't call Oregon overrated.
What I would say, though, is that Oregon has a defined weakness. Any team with a deep defensive line, that can rotate in solid starter level guys off the bench, defeats Oregon. Almost every time.
I've made a chunk of change and looked like a genius recently for calling all of Oregon's loses ahead of time. I definitely had one or two I called that didn't happen along the way, but I was pretty sure of Stanford this year, LSU and USC the year before, Auburn in the champ game, us and Stanford the year before that, and Cal, USC, and Boise the previous year.
Oregon is a solid team that over the last five years would beat 90 pct of the teams in college football, but unfortunately for the Ducks their weakness happens to be exactly the strength of the strongest teams each year. They have a clear ceiling.
As they say in the boxing game, styles make fights. It isn't about who is better or has more talent, it's about very specific individual matchups on the field, whether those matchups are from skillsets, techniques, sets, whatever.
incidently, that's also why I feel we have a good shot at being the team to knock Bama off its perch at some point in the future. Bama has trouble with uptempo, pace-related teams with size ( like us and, if not for their own weakness, Oregon). I predicted the Texas A&M loss this year based on that. It's always a gamble with Bama though- you have to not only have a matchup issue, but also catch Saban when he hasn't had extra time to prepare, and you also have to get an early lead to play from the front. It'll be tough, but Urbs is prepping the perfect team for going up against Bama. Now it all just has to come together.

BuckeyeNinja's picture

Notre Dame will be really good next year as well....That being said Bama and OSU in a class to themselves at this point.

BuckeyeChief's picture

I wonder if UFM is going to throw 41-14 around next year, especially if they run the table.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

BuckeyeChief's picture

Being used as a motivational tool, you know?

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Kaceybrown's picture

I hope he does. It motivates me anyway. 

Bucksfan's picture

First, these kids were in middle school when that happened.  Secondly, it didn't exactly work out to well for Tressel when they tried that going against LSU.  It turned the players into undisciplined, emotional madmen on the field, and they ran up 50+ yards in personal fouls.

smartfootballrankings's picture

No idea where he is getting those odds.  What I see is:

  • Alabama +250 (2.5 to 1)
  • Ohio State +600
  • Oregon +800
  • A&M +1200
  • Georgia +1200
  • South Carolina +1200

 

Grant Edgell's picture

Betting on the new guy (Oregon) may be as far from a bargain bet as you could find in the top ten, but hard to argue with Ohio State being quite a bargain at 8/1 considering they may have the best path in the country to get to the NCG (combining early ranking, momentum and schedule). That alone puts you in toss-up range.
Off-topic but similar...
Heisman Odds
Miller/Manziel -- 5/1
Murray/DAT/Lee -- 8/1
McCarron/Lacy/Clowney/TMartinez -- 12/1
Others...Diggs/Gardner -- 40/1
 

BROSEPH's picture

I would take the Others in a heart beat.  Heisman winners have been coming out of nowhere lately, RGIII, Manziel, Newton.  I'd go with Boyd, I'm surprised he isn't listed with high odds.  That young Stanford QB could have a breakout year as well.  

Grant Edgell's picture

Yeah I don't disagree. The initial advantage to the non-Others being the inherent hype machine from the outset. But: Geno Smith.
Tajh Boyd was very next on the list, standing alone at 15/1. Crazy that he's behind Martinez as far as odds.

smartfootballrankings's picture

I usually do a preseason prediction contest.  Pick various things in a list.  Either longest perfect list or shortest list with the correct answer wins.  For example:
Pick BCS Title Winner (shortest correct list wins):
Pick Heisman Trophy Winner (shortest correct list wins):
Pick BCS Teams (longest list with all your teams correct wins):
First College Coach to get fired (sort by chronological firings):
Pick teams that will not make the NFL Playoffs (longest list with all teams missing playoffs wins):
Tiebreakers are based on list length, then for people who are wrong, whoever has the least mistakes in the longest list cases.
I've done this a few years, no one has gotten the Heisman Trophy winner right, even people with huge lists.  It's crazy how it's come out of nowhere.

BROSEPH's picture

This is awesome.  I would have a lot of fun getting into a pool like that.  

buckeyebart's picture

Where the heck is RYAN SHAZIER on this list.
He was better than "The Catfish " ND boy last year and he was runner up.

BROSEPH's picture

But Notre Dame! And Grandma death. And Girlfriend (HA) 

Knarcisi's picture

... And ... This will tighten the ole buttholes next year. I'm freaking out already. 

Buckeye Beast's picture

All Chip Kelly did was take Urban Meyers offense & make it a no huddle, up tempo offense. I notice Chip had his best years after Urban retired. Between Chris Rainy, Jeff Demps, & Percy Harvin, Florida was the fastest team in college football. The way I see it, Urban got all he needed from Chip the day that he sat down with him at Oregon to watch film. Oregon fans were pissed about that too. Some of them actually seem to think Urban copies Chip Kelly, sad really. But I guess we can let them slip since they weren't relevant until a few years ago, I don't expect them to know their history.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere, & Michigan still sucks

chicagobuckeye's picture

I agree with the Oregon comments. While they don't lose many games, they lose the ones that count. They were all but a lock for the NCG, but lost to Stanford. Yes they won two BCS games, but against K-State and Wisconsin. While both decent programs, neither one of which is a perennial powerhouse to talk of. Also, I think chip Kelly had a bigger prescencse in the offense then people believe. I think this year you will start to see a couple of uncharacteristic losses. 

tampa buckeye's picture

Ohio State is hyped every year.  This year is no different.  They should be better on offense and defense.The question will be how good is the SEC and bama.  I think Ohio State has closed the gap but Urban's guys are still just So. and fr. However anytime you have Braxton Miller at qb you have a chance.
  

btalbert25's picture

I hope they are better on D, but I don't know that we can say they will be better on D.  Have to replace Simon, Hankins, Williams, and Goebel on the D-line.  The only sure thing at LB is Shazier.  Roby is the only one I'm really confident in on the secondary.  They have a lot of young or inexperienced talent and I would expect to see Doran Grant play well and I think the light kicks on for Grant at LB, but there are a TON of questions on the D for me to be confident they'll be better.  The D-Line will probably be nasty, but I wouldn't be shocked if the D has a slow start next season. 

Knarcisi's picture

At least on paper, they may have all season to gel until we face a real offensive threat in Michigan. 

btalbert25's picture

Oregon does always seem to have a hard time winning a big game, but they are pretty good every year.  I think think falling flat shows just how hard it is to go undefeated in college football.  I don't worry about Ohio State getting distracted or over confident next year, they have the perfect motivator, and they will be young and hungry.  Not to mention, they missed out on playing Notre Dame for the title last year and have heard how they would of been beat down in the game or they wouldn't belong. 
This team is going to be pissed off next year.  I really don't believe we'll have any problems with focus next year. 

buckeyedude's picture

This will be Urban's 2nd year at OSU. I expect this to be a good year for the Buckeyes.
Clearly everything rests on the D-line and how well they come together in the off season and during the season. I'm hoping another John Simon has emerged in the weight room.

 

 

Buckeyejason's picture

I just don't see us being the second best team in the country..call me crazy. Seeing what I saw last season leaves me with a certain impression.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Knarcisi's picture

We have a long way to go. Even Urbz said we were the most flawed undefeated team ever. But we have a great base to work from, are undeniably driven, and have a soft schedule. And oh, we have #5. 

buckeyedude's picture

Urbz said we were the most flawed undefeated team ever.

Really? I must have missed the memo. I thought Urbz was pretty high on the Buckeyes at season's end. But I know he has a penchant for bluntness. I do recall him saying at the NC game that he thought OSU was a very good team, but he wouldn't say they were better than Bama.

 

 

UrbzRenewal's picture

I believe Tom Herman said this, not Meyer.

buckeye76BHop's picture

It's always good for the psyche to conjure up thoughts of denial that OSU, despite pulling games out of their ass like Purdue or allowing for over 200 yards rushing by Monte Ball when...well, they knew WTF was coming (or allowing IU to score 42 @#$$ing points!). However they still went 12-0 with really nothing to play for but pride.  Yes, I could see saying this team could have some issues, but they're going to be faster on defense and more experienced with one another and faster on offense (in other words more explosive plays with YAC than we've seen in a while).  Throw in two buys during a soft scheduled season with the possibility of only two real tough away games....I could see 12-0 with a trip to Indy and then who knows what...??? Call me crazy...but that's what I envision.  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

puff daddy's picture

lets just be very mindful of that well tuned,high flying, hard nosed blue collar buffalo team.let's get by those crafty veterans.PEOPLE PLEASE.
keep are eye on the prize.    and also we got the memorial golf tour,gotta, aaaaa, use those designated toilet areas.

knucklehead

cajunbuckeye's picture

I like a challenge. I'm not usually one for advice, but you can't get that kind of interest off your savings account. Bet early, and bet often boys and girls. Buckeyes win it all.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

btalbert25's picture

I like for my futures bet to ge over 10-1 typically.  That's one thing I love about futures bets you can cash in BIG TIME.  8-1 is nothing to sneeze at, but I'd rather try and find that team like Auburn that can make me some serious coin on a 100 dollar futures bet.  

hodge's picture

I was seriously considering dropping some coin on the Bucks going undefeated last year, wonder what those futures bets were looking like a year ago...
Goddammit.

btalbert25's picture

This is the best futures bet story I've ever heard of. I hate that it was a Cardinals fan, but a great gambling story none the less. 
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/fan-in-vegas-bet-cardinals-to-win-world-series-at-999-to-1-odds?urn=mlb,wp24823

hodge's picture

My roommate's boss had a friend that wagered something like $500 on the Patriots to go 19-0 during the 2007 season.  The day before the 2008 Super Bowl, the book called him and offered something like $1million to buy him out of his bet (he stood to win $5 Million if the Pats won), and offer which he refused.  Needless to say, I'm sure he just loves David Tyree.

btalbert25's picture

WOW, That's amazing.  It's easy to say take the million but in hindsight, they way the smacked teams around that year, I'm sure he thought it was a done deal.  Could of took a shot at negotiating for 2.5 or something I suppose. 

Poison nuts's picture

Oh my God Hodge - that is an amazing story! I was just telling the Mrs. about it. I think I would have had to take the million right there & then...I mean, your kicking yourself if the Patriots win I guess, but a million guaranteed would just be too hard for me to walk away from....

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

BrewstersMillions's picture

I vaguely remember a former 11w staffer who made a bold prediction on another site about the Bucks going 12 and 0. It was met with laughter and accusations of weak sauce.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Poison nuts's picture

DJ called it & killed it...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

buckeyestu's picture

I have a question. What is the longest winning streak in ohio state history? 14-0 next year would be awesome, which means a 26 game win streak.

btalbert25's picture

Didn't they have a 19 game win streak or something like that in 2002/2003?  I don't know if that's the longest in History, but that's the longest I remember.  I think they had a 19 game streak in 2005/2006 too.  

tampa buckeye's picture

68-69 seasons would be my guess

lljjgg's picture

Yep, according to wiki the streak was 22 games, from 1967-1969. Michigan ended the streak, sadly.

For what it's worth, OSU spoiled one of the top 10 win streaks (Miami at 34 games) themselves by winning the 2002 Nat'l Championship.

captain obvious's picture

Meyers year Number 3 will be the magic year. But I think we own the BIG  next year and the SEC and the country after that.

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me