Ohio Stadium Rated Seventh Loudest by Bruce Feldman

September 4, 2012 at 2:42p    by Kyle Rowland    
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yrro's picture

I have no problem with LSU as number one. After that... list is completely clueless. Wisconsin at 10th? Seriously? I'd put them ahead of us, and honestly probably second on that list.

Bucksfan's picture

Bruce Feldman is wrong almost every time he opens his mouth.  This list is no different.  Even his quote about Ohio State is condescending and misplaced.  It also irritates me.  Not everything that is done in college football has to revolve around what's done in the SEC.  We don't define ourselves based on what they do down there.  The Ohio State gameday atmosphere is unrivaled.  No one has anything like what we have...and they only wish they did.

Kyle Rowland's picture

Feldman is really good, and has no anti-OSU bias. I've been to games all over the country. Aside from what OSU fans think, there are actually other gameday experiences that are awesome. You can dislike the SEC all you want, but the pre-game and game atmosphere is unreal. It's an entirely different event down there. Some people like it, some don't. I think it's amazing. If you ever have the opportunity to go to Ole Miss, do it. You will not be disappointed. 

William's picture

Was about to say this. Ole Miss has an incredible gameday atmosphere. They currently suck at football but their atmosphere is great and probably better than OSU's.
Also Feldman had this to say: "The Shoe might be a little higher on this list if night games were a staple." Which I completely agree with. The fact that we have so few night games is just stupid. 

BrewstersMillions's picture

I agree whole heartedly Kyle. I was in awe by what Rocky Top has to offer. Tennessee beats OSU's atmosphere, and I'd say handily. At least the game I went to in 2006 when UF and UT played in a truly epic football game.
Unrivaled is wrong. Flat out the wrong word to use. OSU has a great atmosphere but just out of curiosity, Bucksfan, where else have you been?

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burkmon's picture

I concur.  Ole Miss "tailgating" is like no other tailgating.  Don't get me wrong, I love my St. John parking lot spot, but that is nothing compared to how they do it in Oxford.  Was there many years ago for an Ole Miss vs Georgia game.  A college football experience everyone should have on their "bucket" list as a true lover of college football.  IMHO.

 

burkmon's picture

Actually, it is a "picnic in the grove" to be exact.

 

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I was in Tuscaloosa in 2010 and State College in 2011 for both Alabama-Penn State matchups/ Beaver Stadium is definitely louder than Bryant-Denney. Part of it is just the way it's built and where they position the student section, but having been to seven SEC stadiums as well as multiple big games in Ohio Stadium, I can honestly say that Beaver Stadium is the loudest stadium I've ever been in. Also, consider that the game in Tuscaloosa was a night game whereas the game in Happy Valley was a 3:30 kickoff. I found that impressive. (note: I have not been to Tiger Stadium yet, but when I do go, I'll be sure to go for a big game so I can get a fair comparison)

Maestro's picture

That list includes all the usual suspects.  Loud is not necessarily the best.  It's just loud.  Maybe the loudest couple of seconds I have ever experienced in a football stadium was when this play happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zKZd2aE3C0
Doesn't mean the gameday experience in Lubbock can hold a candle to what goes on in C-bus, but it was loud as hell.  Even louder than the wind whipping the red dirt and tortillas around the stadium.

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Bucksfan's picture

The 2004 Michigan-Ohio State game was louder at times than the Indy 500.  Chad Henne couldn't hear his teeth rattling.  Those who I know that were at the 2009 USC-Ohio State game say it was even louder than that.  I have heard that the Wisconsin game last year was insanely loud.
I have never been to an SEC venue, but I have heard these garbage anecdotes recently about how they're so much louder than anywhere else in the country.  I have also heard that they're not as loud as B1G stadiums like Camp Randall, the Shoe, or Happy Valley.
But the f'ing Orange Bowl?!  I have a hard time believing a stadium that rarely ever sold out is the 2nd loudest stadium Feldman was ever in.
Virginia Tech is LOUDER than the horseshoe?!  WTF game was Feldman at?
Here's a different list by a senior writer at The Bleacher Report from 2010.  He lists Bryant Denny as the 23rd-loudest.  He ranks Ohio State 5th and Tennessee 9th.  Ole Miss...36th.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/470624-power-ranking-the-50-loudest-c...
Here's another one from Bleacher Report that lists Ohio State 5th and Alabama 10th.  He also adds a disclaimer that Alabama's is traditionally not considered a loud venue.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/638509-let-the-crowd-roar-the-15-nois...
It's a stupid argument unless you're physically going to go out there and measure the decibel level under similar conditions.  Feldman's list is anecdotal, but he doesn't tell you what games in which he actually attended.  No, Ohio State fans aren't screaming at the top of their lungs when up 35-10 on Jacksonville St. in the 2nd quarter.  But, if it were Michigan or a night game against a nonconference powerhouse, it'd be louder than 95% of the SEC stadiums during a rivalry game, I can guarantee it.
As far as overall atmosphere goes, traditions are incredibly important to me.  Hang on Sloopy, the state rock song complete with O-H-I-O inserted into it?  The band's entrance?  The band itself?!  The Skull Session?  The South has gussied up girls in sun dresses and douchey country club sons in ties...the last thing I want to do before an upcoming football game is partake in a desperate clinging to the southern culture that I generally loathe.  Does that make me an asshole Buckeye fan?  Maybe, but I haven't lived in Ohio in 7 years, and my view of the South has only worstened with time.  Half of the SEC bands do the same cheer (10 sec...I have heard several SEC bands do that during games, they just change it to Go Tigers or whatever).
"Ohio State, man, Ohio State was the loudest place I’ve ever played. Man, that was the toughest place I’ve ever played.” - Vince Young

William's picture

Matt Barkley has also said the Horseshoe was the loudest place he has ever played. The way I see it when comes to stadiums being loud, it is Tiger Stadium and then everyone below them. Their crowd has registered on a seismograph for heaven's sake.
Also this: "The South has gussied up girls in sun dresses and douchey country club sons in ties...the last thing I want to do before an upcoming football game is partake in a desperate clinging to the southern culture that I generally loathe.  Does that make me an asshole Buckeye fan?"- When was the last time you went to an OSU football game? Because this also happens here. We have plenty of douchebags in our crowds as well, and by God you aren't helping it when you come off with an ignorant statement like that.
Also, I really don't get this hate for Southern culture, I mean seriously folks, you owe them some gas money, because you've been riding their dick for far too long. I've run into more people in my two years at Ohio State that are complete douchenozzles than I ran into living in North Carolina for the past 17 years.- (yes this statement is hyperbolic, but I'm trying to prove a point)

Bucksfan's picture

Also, I really don't get this hate for Southern culture, I mean seriously folks, you owe them some gas money

I'm not going to get into all of the many reasons I cannot stand the American southeast.  I can assure you, though, that I do not ride a single appendage of theirs.  In fact, they owe me money!  For every tax dollar a southerner spends, they get 2 from the rest of the country....as opposed to less than a dollar for most northern states.  For more statistics and some perspective, I recommend you read "Better off Without 'Em" by Chuck Thompson.  It's admitedly biased, but the facts and figures are real.  It also has a great chapter on college football.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Bucksfan, I feel you... but just stop right there before it becomes political. Your facts are mostly accurate concerning the distribution of federal dollars to southern states, but trust me, before you go exploring as to why this is so, I'm just going to warn you that you don't want to go there. That's the fast track to the banhammer.

William's picture

No thanks. I've read the WSJ's review of it, and coming from their perspective, it's merely a hate-filled diatribe. But maybe I'll check it out sometime..

JKH1232's picture

You do realize that Thompson includes Ohio in "The South," right?

Bucksfan's picture

No he doesn't.

"With Texas standing as the most debatable omission, the Appalachian anomaly of West Virginia as the most contentious inclusion, and Florida the most difficult case of all, I eventually settled on a South encompassing twelve contiguous states: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia."
Thompson, Chuck. Better off Without 'Em. p. xvii. 2012.

William's picture

So he excludes Delaware and Maryland? Both of which are considered Southern states by the US Census Bureau. He's also excluding Oklahoma, which is also considered a Southern state and has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the US. So he takes an extremely subjective approach to operationalizing what is and isn't a Southern state? Gonna call bullshit on his report then. I have no doubt that poverty, and therefore the amount of Welfare recipients is higher in the South, specifically the Deep South, but if you're going to try and prove something, do it properly and as objectively as possible.....

Bucksfan's picture

He provides rationale for his argument.  I'm not going to read the book to you so that you'll understand his point of view (plus it's probably against copyright laws to dictate the book here).  Read it yourself, William.  Until you do, there's no reason to argue about it.

William's picture

Geez. Every time someone questions the validity of something you list or cite, you resort to little cop-outs like that. He doesn't use an objective source to operationalize what he considers "The South." How can you then consider anything he reports statisitically significant, if it isn't operationalized properly?

Bucksfan's picture

He doesn't use an objective source to operationalize what he considers "The South."

Actually he does.  READ THE BOOK.  Maryland and Delaware did not secede during the Civil War.  Most of Maryland and Delaware are north of Washington DC.  The U.S. Census Bureau also doesn't consider Arkansas or Louisiana as part of its "southeast."  So, YOUR source is irrelevant to the discussion.
And I'm not harping on you for questioning the validity.  I'm harping on you for questioning the validity WITHOUT READING THE BOOK.

William's picture

The US Census Bureau is irrelevant? Ok. The US Census Burea considers the states of Arkansas and Louisiana as part of the South...They consider them part of the West South Central Region..You're going nowhere here. Tidbit: Maryland would have seceded if Lincoln had not allowed them to keep slaves. The very fact that they wanted to keep slaves identifies them more closely with the South than it did the North...

Bucksfan's picture

That is entirely over-simplified.  85,000 people from Maryland joined the service during the Civil War...2/3 went with the Union forces.  It was a border state.  It did not secede.  End of story.
He does discuss Texas to great length, as well as Oklahoma and Missouri.  He's talking about culture, not geography.  If you walk through downtown Baltimore or Annapolis, you're not going to find the government buildings flying the Confederate flag like you will in South Carolina, FOR EXAMPLE.  The book analyzes the culture of the South, and the history of that culture.  He did not write a book to argue with "William" about whether or not the U.S. Census Bureau's regional map is an accurate depiction of the "culture."

Bucksfan's picture

And as far as the seismograph thing.  That's a well-known, and very cute, little story they have going at LSU.  It's also something that any geology department could measure on any campus when there's a big sporting event going on:
http://www.osualum.com/s/359/index.aspx?sid=359&gid=1&pgid=458

William's picture

Very neat. I'll put it this way. If you polled all 120 coaches in the FBS where they would least like to a play an away game, what venue do you think would come out on top? I'd put money on Tiger Stadium being the runaway favorite. Of course this can be disregarded as conjecture, but there's a reason that SEC teams fear playing a night game in Death Valley..

btalbert25's picture

First, this is a fluff piece and it's really silly to get worked up about it.  Second, it sounds like he's been to these stadiums several times, so why should he cite a specific time or example or situation.  He said, and many have, that LSU's Death Valley is that loud all the time.  That means to me if they are playing the SCLSU mud dogs or the Bama Crimson tide it's going to be freakin loud there.
 

BrewstersMillions's picture

Bleacher Report huh? Well if Feldman doesn't do it for you, those knuckleheads certainly don't do it for me.
Loud is loud to me. Lists like this-and our subsequent reactions each time we aren't number 1, just don't bug me. OSU is a near impossible place to play when OSU is rolling-but so are about 15 other stadiums in varying degrees. No sense getting fired up over something like this. I don't know why not being first or higher than some other teams on a subjective list stings so much.
As for the Southern thing-I'll meet you halfway there. You desribed both Rocky Top and the Swamp to near perfection with the comments that sent William into such a tizzy. I'm willing to accept not all Southerners are douches-but just about everyone I ran into at UT and UF certainly was.

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William's picture

Oh there's no doubt that there are plenty of douches at those venues, but there are plenty of them at OSU/UM/PSU games as well is my point. I just find the "I loathe Southern culture" crowd to be mouthebreathing knuckle-draggers, just like the "South will rise again" crowd.
Also lol at using Bleacher Report as a credible source..

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

William... for probably the 1000th time, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Part of this is because those who actually attend games in the SEC should not be confused with the Finebaum-call-in crowd.
I will say though, Knoxville is overrated. I've been to three games there in the past three seasons, and my experience was "meh" compared to most the other schools I've been to. Granted, the Vols ahven't been very good the past three years, but OSU was not very good last year, but our gameday atmoshpere barely skipped a beat.
 
I will say this too... and this goes out to all of you students out there: get your fucking shit together. When I came back this past weekend, I visited my cousin on campus. And you'd have never known there was a game the next day. No one fucking cared. No OH-IO cheers on high. No Buckeye music blaring from house parties. No one wearing OSU gear on High Street. When I was in school, Fridays were a primer for Saturday. Campus just seems so douchey now. First Rule Of Ohio State: It is perfectly acceptable to go out to any campus bar in shorts and an OSU shirt/jersey on a Friday preceding gameday.

William's picture

This. It drives me crazy. Also Ohio Stadium is extremely lame unless it's a close game or a 3rd/4th down situation. No one gets up and cheers consistently except for Block O. Half the student section last game was checking their Twitter feed instead of cheering... I mean my God, do people have to light a fire under your ass in order for you to cheer?

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

When I was up there my first year, all I remember was that from Thursday-Saturday night, the focus was on that weekend's game. Girls and guys would go out friday night in jeans and an OSU shirt for some beers, maybe grill out and play some cornhole. But on Saturday by 8:30 AM (9 AM at the latest), most people were awake and tailgating, either at their homes or elsewhere. Bars were starting to get crowded. TBDBITL music could be heard from every street between Chitt, Lane, High, and Fourth.
I noticed that startign to die last year. And on Saturday, the environment in that off-campus area was embrarrassing. It was freakin pathetic. The tailgate atmosphere closer to the stadium was still fine. But man do the students suck these days.

BrewstersMillions's picture

That's really a shame if thats the case. When I was there from 2001-2005, each and every street from 12th to Lane, and everything East of High was a giant party. That block of off campus housing was the goods. Hiney on Lane when the Holliday Inn was still there...man the party didn't stop until the cops came calling-and it continued into the game. I feel honored to be part of OSU's Off Campus Student Body during that time-we got pretty rowdy and loud and I don't remember much of 2002, 3, or 4 being quiet at any point during any game, short of the few blowouts we saw those years.
 

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William's picture

It is nothing like this now. 

buckeyedude's picture

I think Feldman is partially right: the night games are when it really gets going.

 
 

William's picture

Yep. The Wisconsin game was CRAZY last year, but other than that the Horseshoe has just been alright. 

pcon258's picture

seems a little harsh. i know it was urbans first game and all, but by the middle of the third quarter, everyone and their brother knew it was over, and at that point it was just a glorified practice. add to that its a noon game, very humid; im not trying to make excuses, but just want to caution you against making generalizations

William's picture

It was really freaking humid, and I hate the noon game times. If only we had more than one night game a year.

btalbert25's picture

I'm not the huge fan of night games that most are.  Although I've never attended one either so my attitude would probably change.  For just watching at home though I prefer the noon starts.

btalbert25's picture

He also said that the Orange Bowl wasn't fun when UConn and BC were there and it was half full.  If you read his comment about the orange bowl he specifically mentioned games with FSU and VaTech, and said it wasn't so loud when the stadium was half full.
As for VaTech, if you've never been to the stadium how are you qualified to even make a comment on the matter? 
He also said it was completely anectdotal so can you really take the list that seriously? 

Kyle Rowland's picture

It is always refreshing to read the comments here. The OSU fans here are so much more realistic and logical than any other OSU site on the Internet. I love you guys for that. Seriously. 

FROMTHE18's picture

... WHO CARES?...

FROMTHE18's picture

Also, if Ohio Stadium is to capacity and its a high-profile game, the atmosphere is indescribable. No subjective ranking, nor media opinion could possibly translate the true experience of that place on to paper, so once again, WHO CARES what Feldman or any other person with an opinion (i.e. everyone) thinks? Ohio Stadium is a special place to us for various reasons (most of us dont even care about how 'loud' the place is, I know I don't). Why deminish that by over-reacting to some bullcrap ranking that will be published alongside 500 other rankings of the same sort this year (some will probably include Ohio Stadium as #1). IMO, Ohio Stadium, and the entire Ohio State and Columbus area, is the best place to be on a Saturday, no matter what sort of 'student body', 'loudest', 'craziest', 'best homefield advantage', etc. rankings want to tell me.

Joe Beale's picture

The real head-scratcher on the list is the Orange Bowl. Even when the 'Canes were in their heyday under Jimmy Johnson, the place was almost never filled and it certainly wasn't as loud as the other stadiums on the list, at least as far as what you can hear watching it on the tube. I also don't remember opposing QB's trying all that hard to be heard. That being said, none of the other places on the list were a surprise.  

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

Was signing in just to post the same thing, Joe. Maybe in the 90s i would understand this ranking, but literally the past couple of years the stands look bare a lot of weeks. Completely don't understand the #2 ranking
 
(and i wouldn't say bare, but they are definitely not near capacity)

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

nvm...i keep forgetting that they moved. Which makes even less sense. He is ranking a stadium for a team that they no longer use? wtf. lol. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1218357-hurricanes-football-miami-to-...

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

The 'Shoe can be the loudest stadium in the nation when it WANTS to be.  It usually doesn't want to be...but when USC came to town in 2009, Texas in 2005 - the Michigan games 2002, 04, and 06, and Penn State in 2002 - I was at all of those games - you bet your ass it was very, very loud.  Even Wisconsin last year, which I was also at, was pretty close to the other games I mentioned.  Same with night games - WE NEED MORE.  One every year is nice, but some schools have like 3 or 4.  Other games that aren't big games or at night - not that loud.  When the big games come around, though, Buckeye fans can really bring it, and provide a tremendous atmosphere that I wouldn't trade for the world.  Other college football fans do the same, no doubt.  I loathe the SEC, but I won't deny that at least some of the schools down there have loud stadiums and great gameday atmospheres.  They probably have better food than we do.
Trying to evaluate gameday experiences by visiting stadiums - you have to really do it right.  You have to go for comparable levels of games.  If you go to Autzen for Oregon vs. USC, and then come to the 'Shoe for OSU vs. Kent State, obviously you're going to say Oregon is louder - big game for Oregon, cupcake for OSU.  However, in 2009, you could've gone to the 'Shoe for OSU vs. USC, and then Autzen for Oregon vs. USC.  Matt Barkley did - he said the 'Shoe was louder.  LSU fans registered on a seismograph - in a big game on a big play.  I've been in the 'Shoe for well over 50 games, and I've seen the 'Shoe fairly quiet, and I've seen it very loud.  It depends on opponent and slightly on time of the game.  I'm sure every stadium out there varies to some degree like this.

Class of 2010.

SG's picture

I'd say that while Athens, GA, has a great gameday atmosphere, Feldman really overestimates how loud Sanford Stadium gets.  Even though Sanford looks quite a bit different from the Big House, they're both similar in that their designs limit how loud the noise can be.  One end of Sanford only has about half of the lower deck seats, making for great views in/out of the stadium but very poor containment of crowd noise.  Another factor is that the student support at UGA is really weak for a perennially good team.  Only for the biggest games and night games are the student sections full.
That having been said, let's all hope for the UGA/Ohio State series to be rescheduled.  Athens is a trip no Buckeye fan would want to miss.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I agree, SG... I've been to Sanford, for an in-conference foe, no less.... and Feldman is wildy over-rating the noise level. It's really not all that loud for its size and structure.