PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Don't have a problem with this. It's true, Ohio is one of the few Northern states that produces quality recruits in droves. Read the article and it's not like they bashed Ohio high school football, they actually applauded it for the quantity of quality recruits that it produces, and likened it to some of the Southern states that are talent hotbeds.
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Ohio bucks the stereotype that only size comes out of the North. You know, to be honest, I'm a little tired of the myth that speed comes from geographical areas as a whole. Plenty of speed has come from plenty of states. The entire notion of SEC speed still mystifies me as its College Football's biggest misnomer. SEC stockpiles talent. I don't buy that they are so much faster than everyone else, they are just more talented and that sometimes means faster players. I don't recall people talking about California Speed when USC was sending multiple players to the pros each and every year. Where was that "Texas Speed" when the Horns were the toast of CFB. I don't get it.
Plenty of states produce plenty of talent. Florida, Texas, California, Ohio, and Pennsylvania have always been staples. Virginia, the DC area, Illinois, Georgia all produce its fair share as well. The more populated the state is, the more high school talent will come out of it. Simple as that.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
When someone says "SEC speed," it is often in reference to the defensive lines, whether the hillbilly saying it knows it or not. The DL speed in the SEC is ridiculous. Don't ask me why, because I literally have no idea. But that's what makes SOME of their teams better than most. The rest of the talent is a push.
SEC speed is a myth anymore. It may have been true around 2006-2008, and to some extent still true at certain skill positions, but it is a myth that SEC LBs and D-linemen are faster.
Top 40 times SEC and B1G linebackers and defensive lineman as confirmed by combine results:
Joe Holland, OLB Purdue - 4.49
Brandon Herron, OLB Michigan - 4.60
Tim Fugger, DE - Vandy 4.64
Louis Nzegwu, DE Wisconsin - 4.64
Jerry Franklin, ILB Arkansas - 4.64
Lavonte David, OLB Nebraska - 4.65
Eltoro Freeman, OLB Auburn - 4.65
Don'ta Hightower, ILB Alabama - 4.68
Whitney Mercilus, DE Illinois - 4.68
Jerrell Harris, OLB Alabama - 4.70
Broderick Binns, OLB Iowa - 4.70
Kendrick Adams, DE LSU - 4.70
Ian Thomas, ILB Illinois - 4.72
Tyler Nielsen, OLB Iowa - 4.74
Andrew Sweat, OLB Ohio State - 4.74
Danny Trevathan, OLB Kentucky - 4.75
Courtney Upshaw, DE Alabama - 4.76
Nathan Stupar, OLB Penn State - 4.78
Ronnie Sneed, ILB Kentucky - 4.78
Melvin Ingram, OLB South Carolina - 4.79
Jake Bequette, DE Arkansas - 4.82
Jaye Howard, DT Florida - 4.82
Gerald Gooden, OLB Purdue - 4.84
Mike Daniels, DT Iowa - 4.84
Jack Crawford, DE Penn State - 4.85
Ryan Baker, OLB LSU - 4.88
Mike Martin, DT - Michigan - 4.88
Eric Latimore, DE Penn State - 4.90
So of the fastest 40 times at this years combine for DL and LB, the Big Ten beats the SEC 15-13.
And as for the shuttle times:
Jake Bequette, DE Arkansas – 4.07
Melvin Ingram, OLB South Carolina – 4.18
Lavonte David, OLB Nebraska – 4.22
Mike Martin, DT Michigan – 4.25
Jack Crawford, DE Penn State – 4.25
Mathan Stupar, OLB Penn State – 4.28
Tyler Nielsen, OLB Iowa – 4.31
Ryan Baker, LSU – 4.35
Jared Crick, DE Nebraska – 4.40
Malik Jackson, DE Tennessee – 4.41
Jaye Howard, DT Florida – 4.47
Fletcher Cox, DT Mississippi State – 4.53
Whitney Mercilus, DE Illinois – 4.53
Jerel Worthy, DT Michigan State – 4.56
Michael Brockers, DT LSU – 4.81
Average 20 SS of B1G participants: 4.35
Average 20 SS of SEC participants: 4.40
The difference is definitely in the D-lines. And it isn't in the 40 yards, it's in the 5-10 yards. SEC D-linemen have been much quicker off the ball for the last half-decade or so. The other positions on the field do not have any appreciable speed difference between the major conferences.
This is why Urban's first order of business was the D-Line even though we already had a strong D-line. He knows where the SEC's bread has truly been buttered.
That could be it. The front fours across the board are generally more explosive but as you stated-most hill billies don't realize it. They think each and every position is faster in the SEC despite evidence to the contrary. Then again "Science" or "Facts" don't really ring loudly down there so perhaps we will never get over the SEC Speed hump.
Plus, Kentucky is the Indiana of the SEC. With Vandy as their Northwestern, obviously.
I find "This is the closest opportunity to play in the SEC" ploy detestable. Maybe as high school athlete this would be the cool route to take but as a fan I find it laughable, and an obvious attempt to ride the coattails of other teams that made your conference successful. Would I want to play for a team like that? Not on your life.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
The problem with getting excited about this headline is that any SEC fan can rightly mock you for pointing out that the 8th or 9th best team in the SEC heavily recruits from Ohio.
Yeah but I'd just say LSU and Alabama recruit Ohio, see Spencer Ware and Trey DePriest.
Rivals Ohio Top 60... SEC commits since 2007:
2006 - #13 Lee Tilley, Auburn
2007 - #1 Ben Martin, Tennessee
2008 - None
2009 - #21 Mike Edwards, Tennessee
#55 Mike Marrow, Alabama
2010 - #3 Spencer Ware, LSU
#13 Alex Smith, Kentucky
2011 - #5 Trey DePriest, Alabama
#18 Ryan Kelly, Alabama
#47 Darien Bryant, Vanderbilt
2012 - #28 LaTroy Lewis, Tennessee
#35 Maty Mauk, Mizzou
#44 Alden Hill, Tennessee
2013 (so far) - None
There was a significant increase after the "rise of the SEC", but with Urbz, Hoke, and BOB, it looks as if Ohio is locked down for the B1G again for years to come. Tennessee getting Martin was a real coup in 2007, and it ultimately may have hurt him. Instead of coming to OSU and redshirting and sitting behind some veteran D-lineman, Fulmer decided to play Ben right away, and he battled injuries his entire time at Tennessee. Had he played at OSU, I don't think he's rushed to the front line and he doesn't get the injuries that nagged him through his whole career at Tennessee. Such a shame too. 240 lbs running a 4.5 in high school, he had a load of potential.
I think the top 3 teams in the SEC are better than the top 3 in the big ten, but it really gets me when kentucky and tennessee fans thinks this makes their teams somehow better. You dont need to be a good team to get blown out by a vastly superior team!
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