PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
I love it!
Way to set the tone early, Urban!
Enough of this Twitter bs from college kids. I think some of them worry more about their Twitter than their team, their academics and their reputation. Think before you tweet something.
Let the scUM punks attempt to talk sh*t on Twitter...our boys will let their play do the talking on the field.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
Good. I'm tired of reading stupid sh#t like the fat FLA fan talking sh#t to Roby last night and baiting him into trash talk.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
No more twitter, not a big deal and probably for the better.
No more twitter, not a big deal and probably for the better.
That's a good spirit to have. I wouldn't be surprised if the team is also banned from getting new tattoos.
I would be SHOCKED if the team was banned from getting tattoos. All Urban cares about is what happens on the field. Twitter can be a distraction & also get kids in trouble for saying stupid shit. Tattoos have no bearing on what happens on the field.
Plus, Have you seen Aaron Hernandez's arms? He played for Meyer at UF. Obviously, Urban doesn't care about tats.
EDIT: Not to mention the uproar that would come from some group like the ACLU if kids were being told what they can/can not do to their bodies.
If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target
I see what you're saying, but this made my head spin off:
Tattoos have no bearing on what happens on the field.
Tattoos have no bearing on what happens on the field.
Maybe not directly...
Hahah I see what you mean. I was just speaking literally. The tattoos, themselves, were not the issue and had no bearing on what happened on the field. The CONDUCT of the players in order to obtain tattoos had an on the field effect, but eliminating tattoos as the object has no direct bearing on player conduct, as tattoos could easily be substituted for some other object/desire.
It isn't a matter of discipline, it's damage control following a scandal referred to by the media as Tattoo-gate. To me, seeing a new tattoo on an Ohio State player would be like seeing children on the Penn State sideline: I know that they were probably procured innocently, but it doesn't evoke fond memories.
Didn't take long into 2012 for the most ignorant statement of the year. Congrats JME for this:
"To me, seeing a new tattoo on an Ohio State player would be like seeing children on the Penn State sideline"
Agreed with ThirdLegLouie. You might take the cake for the most ignorant comment of 2012 for the entire year with that statement. Congrats.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
Yeah, I'd think Twitter comments could get into their heads. Anybody else remember those tweets directed at Bri'onte Dunn from Meatchicken fans after he reconfirmed to tOSU?
Good first step for the new regime. I like it.
This might be a good move on two fronts.
First, for reasons mentioned above: Twitter is a distraction, feeds into the smack talk culture, etc.
But, second, it kinda tests the players. If kids react in different ways to this rule change (e.g., sulking or defiance), that gives Meyer useful information.
Great points, Fido.
If you would have told me a couple years ago that I would love Urban Meyer this much someday, I would have probably vomited all over myself and then karate chopped you in the throat.
fragel already saying his new # is 77 at OT...awesome..you think they will have set plays for him to come off the line for a route?
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
Would not be shocked at that...at 300 pounds if he can keep most of his speed from 280, it would be a secret weapon
O-linemen are eligible to catch a pass?
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Is he allowed to tweet about being banned from Twitter???
twitter ban starts AFTER today
Keyboard James lives on!
Why are people acting like he is the first coach to do so?
Did any of us say he was the first coach to do so?
No, this is in response to most of the national media.
Kind of funny he's reporting this ban on twitter! Love the rule though, probably have a final date to close their accounts
I swear I don't say this just because I get so much amusement via the twitter accounts of some current Buckeyes but I disagree with Urban's approach here. If you have to ban twitter from college aged kids completely aware they play football at a high profile school then you have bigger problems to deal with.
That said, I do believe coaches should have the right to ban twitter as they deem necessary.
11W has gotten some of its scoops from Twitter, too...maybe?
Meyer banning Twitter is - almost - critic-proof. Good for him and good for the Buckeyes.
Nah. No real scoops from Twitter, at least nothing that every other blogger/fan wouldn't have the same access to.
I'm not passionate either way. Just think part of growing up is proving you can handle things like having a twitter account when you are 18-22 years old. If you cant handle it, then you should be dealt with individually.
I also find it interesting that Pantoni seemed to have zero problem tweeting back and forth with players in the days leading up to the game.
Above all else, though, Urban appears to be focused on introducing a new culture and I don't have a big argument with that. I disagree with a twitter ban but sometimes you have to over-do-it to make the right impression / set the right expectations.
Re: "...when you are 18-22 years old."
How the law views 18-22, hasn't changed. But, being 18-22 - now - strikes me as an extension of adolescence. So, it's like tween, teen and post-teen are stages of an era, within one's life. Like that episode of The Sopranos in which someone quipped about Tony's son, that 26 is the new 18. This suggests something holistically, evolutionary, I guess.
I'm not knocking the kids, though. I envy'em.
Good point about 26 being the new 18.
The weird thing, though, is that when it comes to sex, drugs, music, pop culture, etc. kids are growing up faster (see: Will Hill directly below). When it comes to personal responsibility, emotional maturity, taking orders, etc., it's just the opposite.
I'd suggest that there's a connection between these two, seemingly contradictory, trends, but then I'd be accused of being a crotchety old S.O.B.
I'm not buying it. I hear all the crazy stories my parents and their friends tell from when they were in high school and college back in the 70's. That experience certainly wasn't the same experience I had in high school and college in the 90's-2000's in college. People that age have always been immature as a whole. I just don't believe that kids today are so much immature and you have to be in your mid 20's before you finally mature.
Maybe these days, as opposed to 30,40, or 50 years ago more kids are in college and have the opportunity to be immature where back in the day many more went strait to work, raising kids, or going to the military, but I think as long as their have been people 18-22, their have been a ton of immature 18-22 year old people.
Sure, we ought not exagerrate the point.
As you allude to, though, most of the soldiers who stormed the Normandy beaches were between the ages of 18 and 23 years old. Prior to training for, and then experiencing, that harrowing experience, they'd grown up in the Great Depression. Back then, most 18 year old "kids" worked full-time and, not long after that, a lot them were raising families.
My hunch is that drug usage among 13, 14 year old kids in the late 1960s (era of hippies and flower children) was very, very rare. Nowadays, it's much more prevalent than we'd like to admit.
Look at the pop culture that pre-teens are now exposed to: Grand Theft Auto, Gangsta Rap, Twilight, etc.
Meanwhile, the average ages of typical adulthood "benchmarks" continue to climb: age of first marriage/child, age when child leaves parents' home, etc.
Only because society has become more accepting and less accountable. I agree with you and almost typed something very similar but wanted to avoid argument. Exposure to personality influencing media effects us more so today than it ever has. It has been said somewhere very important, that the eyes are windows to our soul. It is very hard for the youth to distinguish between fact and fiction. They hear about a successful lifestyle through music and television but when you live that life there are serious repercussions. That isn't the focus though.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
I wish that I was given the same leniency when I was 18-22. I have made the comparison to other men that age, not entitled by their athletic abilities. The military trains and educates young men to become dependable, integrity filled, assets to our nation. In the process that growth is either accepted and exponential or it is met with resistance stirred from our upbringing and refusal to let go of "your previous life".
Understandably, the military trains for the purpose of defending our nation and life preservation and that is a different primary objective than the college life. No coach gives these men the same type of attention that one receives in basic training where his life is controlled 24/7 for 18 weeks. No one said that Meyer was bringing a military, ass kicking persona to the team and I know Twitter Bans don't indicate such a move, but I welcome it. I understand you want to single out the wrongdoers on twitter but I agree as a team, it only brings them closer together. Everyone is on the same sheet of music with the same expectations. You don't go into a new job taking over for someone that has a broke product, feathering the gas. You go hard and then reward their productivity with relief in regards to certain rules or whathaveyou. I like it.
I think we see this the same way. I wasn't countering anything you said, just voicing my opinions on it.
There are plenty of immature idiots in our nation's armed forces.
If nothing else: Marionaire.
may be, but many more protesting, i.e. the "Occupy" crowd of losers
I have a unique view of your statement. I am engaged to a Marine and have been to a few occupy protests (with my fiance) and I can state without a doubt that what you just said is untrue.
Losers? For someone doing something they believe in...and your use of i.e. is just stupid.
+10000000 bucks43201! I believe they are losers for the rapes, murders and trash left in Occupy's wake.
I don't disagree with you whatsoever. When they screw up they get UCMJ, even jailed for things that people get banned from in college. You missed your charter?=Unauthorized Absence is a charge punishable by a term in the brig. The accountability is at two different levels. That was the point I was trying to make. Everyone has the propensity to be immature at times.
Will Hill, anyone?
Beat me to it. I'm sure that has a TON to do with this ban.
I'm in my 30's but this guy makes me say, "I weep for the future" like an 80 year old man.
omfg i remember this lol...oh i miss it
I think a large part of the Twitter ban is just a piece of the plan Urban has to change the culture in Columbus. The Buckeyes are going to get militarized, to an extent, and go really really hard. Urban told everyone that on Day 1 press conference. Personally, I can't wait to see these Buckeyes get toughened up. When they take the field under Urban, I want them to be in a perpetual state of "ass-kickery".
Quite a few ppl in this thread happy about this. I could care less about twitter but I cannot agree.
Neither Corey Brown seem to have gotten the memo...
I. LOVE. THIS.
IMO Twitter encourages a me first, selfish, egotistical mentality. Some worse than others (granted)...still...Those things can only do harm to and help divide a team. Even if it is only one or two guys abusing it, it isnt worth the potential harm it could cause to the team. Nipping this in the bud early was a great move.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
Let the transferring begin. Some of these players are simply going to tuck tail and run from the new rules. I predict 4-6 transfers before Spring Practice begins.
transfer over a twitter ban? tougher rules? boo-hoo.
No one is going to transfer over a twitter ban.
Not just the twitter ban, but all the new rules in general. Some guys are used to the way things are and won't want to fall in line with a new regime. It happens at every program when there are coaching changes. The culture change that Meyer is going to lead is simply going to be something that some kids choose not to be a part of. Attrition happens, and it likely needs to happen.
I just hope if their is attrition it happens sooner and not later. I say good riddance to anyone that doesn't want to work harder and commit themselves to the new staff. If they want to go, go now so we can have those schollies to bring in some more monster recruits this year. That would free up room to go ahead and bring on some of these guys that it has been rumored Urban asked to hold on their commitment. If not having fires up guys enough to where they want to leave, see ya!
I think that was one major issue with Tressel, he let the guys kind of do whatever they wanted outside of football. Go ahead and tweet, then we got all kinds of gems from Pryor. This year the tweeting actually had players criticize play calling, coaching, and the offense. Really? That's just embarrassing. I like that Urban is coming in and making sure everyone knows he's the boss and they have to toe his line. The team is quickly going to learn this is Urban's world and he's going to rule with an iron fist.
i hate being that guy, but if any player tansfers specifically because of a twitter ban they are a literal child and i couldn't care less if they were on the team or not
edit: but yeah, there will probably be some transfers due for whatever reasons. it happens. you just have to believe that the new culture and coach will be better than what came before
Maestro isn't saying the Twitter ban alone will cause this. personall, I don't think this alone will cause a transfer exodus either but Meyer's ways might. This being apart of it. Meyer is going to radically change how OSU does business and that may not go over well immediatley. The guy is like a ruthless CEO who cuts and slashes and doesn't care who cries because the bottom line is what matters most. If Meyer wins titles and players love him for it (He will and they will) they can be behind Communist Russia communication barriers for all I care.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Exactly. He's showing them who's boss early, and those players who run from it likely wouldn't get much if any playing time from him anyway. Personally, I look forward to seeing a more disciplined team.
There goes about 75% of my twitter entertainment.
I've had it with the prima donna attitudes and these kids feeling entitled. Its a privilege to put on scarlet and gray, its not scarlet and gray's privilage to be worn by these guys. if they arent willing to give up a trivial luxury like twitter or cant handle a couple tougher rules BEAT FEET!
To me, seeing a new tattoo on an Ohio State player would be like seeing children on the Penn State sideline: I know that they were probably procured innocently, but it doesn't evoke fond memories.
Here is JME, trivializing child rape on yet another thread... smh
Really dude, stop. No one is going to agree with you or get a kick out of your comment. Its just wrong.
::pitchfork and torch in hand:: heard there was a party?
Pitchforks are overrated. Grab a scythe.
even have my red robe ready
"To me, seeing a new tattoo on an Ohio State player would be like seeing children on the Penn State sideline: I know that they were probably procured innocently, but it doesn't evoke fond memories" POSTED BY JME
This just might be the dumbest thing ever posted on this site. Congrats!!
50 plus comments over twitter is the real story here..
Petrus Romanus has arrived on the scene.
I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.
kgdispatch Ken Gordon
RT @Fragel88: Just now finding out the whole twitter thing wasn't exactly true. #hearsay // So do we now condemn Meyer for NOT banning it?
OK, I can see I'm going to be in the small minority here, but if there's one thing I dislike about football, and about football coaches in particular, it's the whole military, cloak-and-dagger, let's-not-tell-anything-to-anybody, Eric Mangini mindset. It's a damn game, people, not the Cold War. It's entertainment.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that the Twitter ban will go over well with the OSU fanbase as a whole, but I am a little amused to see so many in an online Buckeye community thinking this is a wondrous idea. One would think people here would be more comfortable with online culture, and less prone than the general population to believing Twitter is something weird, dangerous, or a mere waste of time and effort. I think more information is better than less, and I would think most of the contributors to 11W would believe the same--witness the fact that a tweet is the source for this very post.
Whether people believe it or not, banning Twitter won't do a single thing to improve Ohio State football. And as time goes on, it could become detrimental, because like it or not, today's teenagers have grown up with social media and aren't going to look kindly on efforts to restrict their use. I predict such bans can't possibly survive the end of this decade, because schools that are more casual about these matters will have a competitive advantage over those that are more restrictive. It's disappointing to see Meyer, who is (slightly) younger than me, engaging in old-fartism like this.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
I think you make a fair point that college kids don't like restrictions, although I can't imagine someone choosing one school over another because they allow tweeting. Has any good ever come of a college football player tweeting? I don't follow any of them, I used to follow TP a bit last year and the endless droll of nothingness and RTs annoyed me.
Wasn't Denard's Twitter hacked by an ex-g/f or something this year? You can't tell me that isn't distracting, at least on some level. Something like that happens and suddenly all 30K of your followers and then every rival's blog is posting your embarrassing laundry. How many heckling messages do players receive? How much time do they devote to responding or agonizing over the criticism? I'm sure it varies by person, ranging from easily brushing it off to dropping a few passes in practice and then beginning to believe that those critics are right.
But now it may not be true, so who knows..
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
Apparently the twitter thing isn't true??? Color me confused!
@Fragel88 Just now finding out the whole twitter thing wasn't exactly true. #hearsay
@Fragel88 Just now finding out the whole twitter thing wasn't exactly true. #hearsay
Color me cracker. Well, olive-toned cracker at least.
I think this entire situation just shows how "knee-jerk" and silly Twitter is in general.
This is what happens, when players are using Twitter indiscriminately. You get unfounded rumors, about Twitter rules, rattling around in the Twittershpere, causing new problems. The rumors become the srouce of thousands of new Tweets and Re-Tweets, everything gets Twittered about, until Ken Gordon weighs in, on his Twitter account, to set the record straight.
There will be a quiz on this tomorrow.
M Man, that's hilariously true. The whole twitter ban confusion is the exact reason there should be a twitter ban.
Dudes like Twitter.
I actually like the team rule...especially after what The Buckeye Nation has had to endure this season. One mis-step such as a harmless "Thanks" for the free bowling shoes rental, or the Pancake Social ticket...a full fledged...un-yielding NCAA investigation will ensue. My point is that I think Meyer is just trying to protect his players, and he's just being pro-active in that regard. I certainly don't want to even think about that 4 letter acronym (NCAA) again!! Those Social Network Sites are nice, fun, exciting, etc...but I can also see them becoming the warm winds that fan the flames of controversy!! BUCKEYES FOREVER!!
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