Pryor Declared Eligible for Supplemental Draft

August 18, 2011 at 9:47a    by Chris Lauderback    
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BucksfanXC's picture

Considering he wasn't gonna play the first five games anyway, win for him. Best of luck, stop talking about OSU/violations now and move on.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

O-H Kee Pa's picture

What, if anything, can we glean from this as it pertains to OSU and the NCAA?

Maestro's picture

Unless the school knew about it I don't see much coming from this. That's what got us in all the hot water to begin with. Someone knowing about the Tat 2.

vacuuming sucks

AltaBuck's picture

Exactly...the NCAA penalty for this violation would be suspension. The point is moot with TP gone.

One thing that needs clarification: Why did tOSU's letter to the NFL state that he would have been suspended for the entire 2011 season, when officially, it was only 5 game suspension at that time? Was the 2011 season suspension based on this violation or something else? I never heard about the justification for a full season suspension.

 

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

O-H Kee Pa's picture

If someone could clarify Alta's last point about why TP would have been ineligible for the entire season, it would be greatly appreciated.

RBuck's picture

I brought this up in today's Skully and have since found out the answer. He was suspended for the season for refusing to talk to the NCAA in May.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

AltaBuck's picture

Thanks...I've been wondering about that. Brings up an interesting point since he actually did talk with the NCAA in May regarding Ted S. Welll, who gives a shit...glad he is gone. Is it sept 3rd yet?

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

RBuck's picture

From what I got from a Lesmarises story, all he did was turn over his bank account records to the NCAA; and then refused to talk about it.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

NC_Buckeye's picture

Are you sure about this? Because I've read elsewhere that it was because he signed with an agent immediately after dropping out of school? The fact that he did this made him ineligible as a player from that point on.

RBuck's picture

He refused to talk to the NCAA in May. He signed with the agent in June.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/08/terrelle_pryors_push_for_nfl_d.html

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Bucksfan's picture

I don't understand this in the slightest.  Why is the NFL handing out NCAA punishments?  Is the NFL paying for any bit of college football?  That's rhetorical - of course not, it is a free farm system.  So, wtf??  Is this the Youngstown Mafia at work?

Denny's picture

Because winners do what they want?

I agree - makes the  NCAA look even more ridiculous as a free farm system, especially if their suspensions will now start to carry over.

Taquitos.

AltaBuck's picture

I was thinking the same thing.  They spin it as 'Integrity' but it's really about protecting their relationship with the NCAA and its free farm system as you described. TP will be paid during his suspension so I am sure he is happy. Hopefully, this is the end of it.  I cannot see how the NCAA can penalize tOSU when Teddy is giving TP and his mother $$$ when both the school and the NCAA told him not to.

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

BucksfanXC's picture

I don't think the "official" position is that they mirrored the NCAA, but that they just happened to give him a suspension that is the same length as the NCAA gave him initially, since the NCAA technically has him ineligible for the entire season. It's just a coincidence.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Denny's picture

True, but anybody who believes official NFL PR speak is a sucker.

Taquitos.

BucksfanXC's picture

Or any PR speak for that matter. The NFL knows enough to not bite the hand that feeds it, so it will never do anything too deliberate against the NCAA. But I don't think this signals the beginning of the NFL catering to the NCAA. That's my only point. I think people's reaction that the NFL's suspension has anything to do with the NCAA's suspension is reading too much into it.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

NC_Buckeye's picture

Does anyone know if he's immediately allowed to practice though? Because that's what he really needs -- a qb expert to start working with him on timing and throwing mechanics.

If they're going to pay him for the first five games, I would assume the answer is yes. Whoever "they" turns out to be.

Which brings me to another question -- any word on teams that are interested in him?

btalbert25's picture

How does the Supplemental Draft even work?  There are what 7 guys eligible now?  I know the team gives up a pick in next years draft but what if 4 teams want to draft the same guy, is it first come first served?  The whole concept of this supplemental draft is confusing to me since there are so few players and so man teams.

 

NW Buckeye's picture

Any team can "bid" on any player. A bid is what draft pick the team would be willing to give up in next year's draft. The team that gives up the highest pick wins the rights to that player. It is a guessing game at this point. Any team that wants a player must try to get a feel for what other teams are willing to bid. I have no idea what happens if two or more teams bid first round picks for a player.

The Six Fingered Buckeye's picture

Not doubt that I'll be corrected if wrong, but the draft order is the same as the previous draft. Therefore, if two teams bid picks in the same round, the one with the higher draft order is awarded the bid. So say Oakland and Miami bid 2nd rounders. Whoever drafted higher in the 2011 draft would win the bid, in this case, Miami.

Please, be honest. This is for science.

biggy84's picture

The fact the NFL is continuing NCAA punishments is huge. Goodell evidently isn't happy just playing God with current players. I think it's b.s.

NeARBuckeye's picture

If they're ping to suspend Pryor, Caleb King should have to go back and learn his multiplication tables before he can play.

BucksfanXC's picture

Is there time for Jacory Harris to join him?

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Irricoir's picture

From OurHonorDefend,

I seem to recall a certain Pittsburgh quarterback who only got four games for breaking an actual law while ALREADY an NFL player. I also seem to recall no postseason ban carryover for Pete Carroll. Seems a tad hypocritical, NFL.

 Spot on if you ask me.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Hard to argue against that.  The consistency of which they apply their laws/rules is sad.

biggy84's picture

TP didn't break any laws! He is guilty of breaking archaic ncaa rules.