Auburn Might Start Declaring More National Titles

January 31, 2014 at 10:59a    by DJ Byrnes    
94 Comments
American Man Jay Jacobs

Y'all remember Jay Jacobs, right? He's the Auburn AD who declared it'd be "un-American" if Auburn were held out of the national title game. (A game they lost, by the way.) Well, he's back and looking to take a page out of blood-rival Alabama's book:

“If other schools are using these same polls to declare a national championship, we should at least consider it,” Auburn athletics director Jay Jacobs said. “I don’t think there’s a better time for the Auburn family to consider it than right here at the end of the BCS era.

“As we transition into another playoff format for the national champion, I just think we need to look hard at it.”

The 1910, 1913, 1914, 1958, 1983, 1993 and 2004 teams are all under consideration. Each finished undefeated or won the conference championship, or both. All were recognized as national champions by at least one national selector, which are used by other schools to recognize National Championships.

As the article notes, Texas A&M declared themselves 1919 and 1927 national champions to bolster their trophy case upon entering the SEC. Minnesota went as far back as 1904 to claim a title. 

Where does the madness end? With Ohio State retroactively declaring themselves winners of every national title, that's where.


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otrain2416's picture

We're also considering recognizing the 2014 team as National Champions since we won the SEC Championship. 

buckeye_heart's picture

Hey whatever floats your boat, but we know the truth......you have to make things up to feel important.

trock's picture

Can we claim a national championship for 2012? We finished undefeated.

Hovenaut's picture

Does referencing such successful seasons from the past mean that they're not going to continue being that "team of destiny" moving forward?
War Eagle, y'all.
 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'm retroactively declaring myself #1 student of my high school senior class.
I should have given the Valedictory, not that overrated Danny O'Brien kid. I got jobbed! My principal was a Papist! The school newspaper had an east coast bias!

Maestro's picture

Fantastic post

vacuuming sucks

Killer nuts's picture

I just gave myself a national championship

CALPOPPY's picture

Huh. that's a new term for masturbation.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

Killer nuts's picture

"National Championships"

Unky Buck's picture

I'm claiming myself the 2004 Las Vegas Open Dodgeball champion.

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Ethan_Buck's picture


 
Let me tell you something..I was there..and you were at best third place.

I dont always root for college athletics, but when i do (which is most of the time) I choose THE Ohio State Buckeyes.

Hovenaut's picture


(So do I, congrats Unk!)

ScoobyKnows's picture

This was Brady Hoke after the OSU game (or at 1 of his recruiting visits).

zacisone's picture

I have a T-shirt that names us as 1970 Champs. We were named Champs by the AP after THE game to finish undefeated, but lost the Rose Bowl to Jim Plunkett and Stanford. So great team YES, NC no.

Zacisone

Olemissbuckeye's picture

According to SEC schools a post season loss doesn't count if it is inconvenient for it to count.

CALPOPPY's picture

According to SEC schools a regular season loss doesn't count if it is inconvenient for it to count.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

omahabeef1337's picture

Schools that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Nebraska_Cornhuskers_football_team
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_college_football_season
OSU claims the 1970 national championship even though it lost the Rose Bowl, while Nebraska went undefeated (one tie, but won it's bowl) and was ranked #1 in the AP at the end of the season.

acBuckeye's picture

OSU claims that title b/c it was awarded by the NFF, which is deemed a consensus national selector. It wasn't awarded by some Joe Blow writer.

omahabeef1337's picture

OSU fans (which to be clear, I am one) ability to rationalize claiming a national championship in a year that OSU lost it's bowl game is astounding to me.

Unky Buck's picture

I'm not rationalizing anything here but I wanted to offer just another perspective...there are a lot of people that do it. Lots of fanbases claim championships that they shouldn't claim. In my opinion, unless it was something like the AP, USA Today, or the now defunct BCS, it isn't a championship that you can truly claim. I don't know many of the old establishments, though, so I'm just throwing out the ones that have been used in recent memory, but you get the point.

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Statutoryglory's picture

One of michigans titles is for a 5-0 season.

Squirrel Master's picture

no what astounds me is that you are arguing about this when before the BCS era there were many paper champions. The AP champ was so often not who the real champ should have been. Hence why they moved to the BCS and now we are moving to the playoff.
Since 1954 there have been two or more champions declared THIRTEEN TIMES! TWICE, THERE WERE THREE!
That is more astounding than your astoundment!
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

omahabeef1337's picture

This whole discussion about Auburn is about them claiming dubious championships. That's exactly what OSU does when it claims it won the 1970 championship, when it actually lost the last game of the season.

Squirrel Master's picture

so you are telling me that no team in the history of the NCAA has lost its last game and won the National Championship?
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

omahabeef1337's picture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football_team
Am I missing something here? They finished #2 in the coaches poll and #5 in the AP. They finished #1 in the National Football Foundation poll -- which I can't imagine was accepted as one of the "official" polls of college football.

Squirrel Master's picture

actually it was. If you look back at past champions lists it shows all the accepted polls. Some years there were 5 separate polls that chose 3 separate champions in some years.
anyways, the point about ONE OSU championship that was claimed AT THAT TIME and not decades later shouldn't be an issue with a true buckeye fan. I like how you disclaimered that you are a buckeye fan but you feel so strongly about arguing the legitimacy of a championship that was shared with Nebraska, you know the state surrounding Omaha.
so really, there is a big difference and you are a closet case Nebraska fan no matter how much you like the Buckeyes. (I am not a racist, a bigot or do I label people, but I am a teamist and I am calling you a no, good low down non-buckeye. That's right, I said it!)
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

This whole discussion about Auburn is about them claiming dubious championships.

No, the discussion is about Auburn paging through the history books trying to find new dubious championships to claim in an effort to look more important.

hit_the_couch's picture

You do realize that the MNC was declared before the bowl games up until about '75 and with the AP until about '65.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

ATXbucknut's picture

Here's what I don't understand. 7 SEC schools claim 17 national championships. But many of the entities bestowing national championships didn't exist in the years in which the schools claim them (i.e. Sagarin, Billinglsey, etc.).  Were they awarded retroactively?
Alabama (5)
1925: Football Annual, Billingsley and Helms
1926: Helms
1930: Davis Poll
1934: Dunkel, Williamson and Football Thesaurus
1941: Houlgate
Arkansas (1)
1964: FWAA and Helms
Georgia (1)
1942: Houlgate, Sagarin, Litkenhous
Ole Miss (3)
1959: Berryman, Dunkel and Sagarin
1960: Billingsley
1962: Litkenhous
Kentucky (1)
1950: Sagarin
Tennessee (4)
1938: 17 national selectors including Billingsley, Litkenhous, Sagarin
1940: Dunkel and Williamson
1950: 13 selectors including NCF, Billingsley and Dunkel
1967: Litkenhous
Texas A&M (2)
1919: Billingsley and National Championship Foundation
1927: Sagarin
 

USMC11917's picture

And people wonder why we are a "What have you done for me lately" society. The past confuses me....

hit_the_couch's picture

The polls didn't exist then but once they were created, the creating body went back and crowned who they though was the best team those years. that is my understanding.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

kmp10's picture

OSU fans (which to be clear, I am one) ability to rationalize claiming a national championship in a year that OSU lost it's bowl game is astounding to me.

 
Huh? Ohio State was awarded the 1970 national championship by the NFF. What do you mean rationalize? The trophy sits in the WHAC. The NFF poll champion is cemented in college football history. No one is rationalizing anything. What's astounding to me is that there are people who refuse to acknowledge this title.

Hovenaut's picture

Let's talk 1957, Mr. Jacobs.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_college_football_season
Since Auburn was on probation that season (are you paying attention, Mark Emmert?), I think we'll just call the Buckeyes AP and UPI champs that year.  
 

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Either that, or call them the 2012 champs since they were the only remaining team undefeated.  Auburn would probably agree with giving us the 2012 since it takes it from 'Bama.

Ethan_Buck's picture

Upvotes for anyone with a Dodgeball reference.

I dont always root for college athletics, but when i do (which is most of the time) I choose THE Ohio State Buckeyes.

Poison nuts's picture

It's good to hear that OSU is actually the only National Champion ever of all time in cfb as stated clearly above - on this day of our Lord January 31 2014 because:
A. It helps me win a lot of arguments I have with my wife &
B. Helps with recruiting (which I'm sure was Auburn's goal until they got the bad news that OSU is actually the only NC football team ever)
I'm going to celebrate tonight with an extra cupcake. I used to celebrate much differently & much more vigorously, but I'm older now & enjoy the little things like cupcakes & Viagra...it's a great day!!
This entire post is a joke. I never have 2 cupcakes.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

If your great day lasts for more than four hours, be sure to call your doctor immediately

Ethan_Buck's picture

Viagra (sildenafil) is used for the treatment of erectile dysfunction. It is a phosphodiesterase-5 (PDE5) inhibitor. Common side effects of Viagra include facial flushing, headaches, stomach pain, nasal congestion, nausea, diarrhea, and an inability to differentiate between the colors green and blue.
 
Any of this too. Stop using immediately and talk to your doctor. They can be the signs of more rare and serious side effects.

I dont always root for college athletics, but when i do (which is most of the time) I choose THE Ohio State Buckeyes.

Oyster's picture

Sounds like you read that right off the bottle?

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Earle's picture

Or call Pam.
This reminded me of one of the funniest comments I have read on here from a long time ago.  I tried to find it (admittedly not for long), but no dice.  Perhaps a few will remember it.

Italics are for emphasis.

simpson203's picture

"You guys had me at blood & semen cupcakes and Viagra."

Poison nuts's picture

Hey, hey, hey, - it's extremely hard for me to talk about my Viagra use. Straight up. When people make fun of it, it really gets my blood pumping - but you know what, I'm not some uptight stiff that can't take a joke so you guys can just go ahead & keep it coming!

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Earle's picture

It's just not that hard to get a rise out of some people...

Italics are for emphasis.

Oyster's picture

^^^ Sarcasm Dots ^^^

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Earle's picture

I do not acknowledge the existence of such a thing.  And I am never sarcastic.

Italics are for emphasis.

Poison nuts's picture

You're right Earle, I've been working on not being so soft

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Unky Buck's picture

Just stop drinking whiskey. That'll do ya the trick.

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Earle's picture

[Reply redacted in memory of STEENSN]

Italics are for emphasis.

Oyster's picture

You could have just put in the sarcasm dots and then everyone would have known you had a snappy reply but it was off color. 

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Oyster's picture

And if you were quick, you would have done that as a reply to me, like this:

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Oyster's picture

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May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Earle's picture

Are you off your meds?

Italics are for emphasis.

Oyster's picture

I'll begin self medicating in about 45 minutes.  I read somewhere in a medical journal yesterday that drinking makes you live longer.  Maybe it was here, I dunno.

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Earle's picture

Same difference.  Someday I might write a book, "Everything I Ever Needed to Know I Learned on Eleven Warriors". 
Then I'll promote it on the site and yell at anyone who has anything bad to say about it.

Italics are for emphasis.

Oyster's picture

Ok, the edit you did from the original made this!
BRAVO!

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Earle's picture

Your approval means so much to me.

Italics are for emphasis.

Earle's picture

Wait, I meant to say:

Italics are for emphasis.

Earle's picture

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Italics are for emphasis.

Oyster's picture

Are you off your meds?  What the heck do three periods in a row mean?

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

tennbuckeye19's picture

Are you off your meds?  What the heck do three periods in a row mean?

It means no lovin' from Mrs. Earle for the foreseeable future.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

What the heck do three periods in a row mean?

The letter S

Unky Buck's picture

Sweet Jesus I was about to type that. You can't use sarcastic silence using italics

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Earle's picture

Sorry, Oyster's and my little dialogue practically pushed your comment to the next page.  So much for context.

Italics are for emphasis.

Oyster's picture

Earle obviously hit the wrong reply button, which then screwed up your well placed response.  I feel for you Unky. 
 
Nice use of the Sarcasm Dots though.

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

Earle's picture

You and your freaking dots!!

Italics are for emphasis.

Bucksfan's picture

This thread has become a silly place.

Earle's picture

You should hear my Clark Gable impersonation.

Italics are for emphasis.

Poison nuts's picture

Well - ...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Squirrel Master's picture

and while we are at it, I'm claiming 2012 Buckeyes as National Champions because they got a bogus bowl ban and really should have been there and would have easily beaten ND.
plus by finishing undefeated, its automatic! Print the T-shirts!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Earle's picture


Then he had an idea, an awful idea...

Italics are for emphasis.

Unky Buck's picture

I want to punch that smirk right off of his face...

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hit_the_couch's picture

I remember '93; Auburn was under sanctions and couldn't play for a title or on TV. They finished #4 I think. Dirty, dirty program.
The best thing about '93 was that Bamer had to vacate their entire season due to sanctions. That has awesome rivalry written all over it.
If Bamer wasn't bad enough about claiming fake titles.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

PittBuckeye's picture

This guy is a genius. Never has an AD single handedly earned that many championships for a school. Good for him.

FROMTHE18's picture

why even do this? Its so obviously fake that nobody will buy it and I feel like if I was a recruit and that was their sales pitch I'd feel like they are lying to me.

Matt F's picture

I was the best player in my little league when I was 12. Gonna go ahead and claim the 1996 AL MVP. Think we had a deep playoff run - I'll take the World Series MVP while we're at it.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

It's kind of funny/sad to think of how that 2004 Auburn team got hosed. Jason Campbell, Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams were a hell of an offense. I wish we could have seen them play USC instead of the Oklahoma team that got housed.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

B1G 10 Buckeye Stuck in SEC Country's picture

I have a Worlds Best Dad t-shirt....everyone has been put on notice.  Flag has been firmly planted! 

" Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne 

CALPOPPY's picture

For what year?

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

stevebelliseeya's picture

I'm claiming the 2014 Flappy Bird National Championship.

"We are eternal. All this pain is an illusion." - Tool

BUCKI06's picture

"As long as we're keeping score, we're gonna try to win this thing." - UFM

stevebelliseeya's picture

LOL, I would feel better about myself if this weren't true actually but it absolutely is.

"We are eternal. All this pain is an illusion." - Tool

Squirrel Master's picture

been playing for about a day now. best score is 10, mostly I barely get to 2. Need practice!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

TilstheHun3's picture

I'm claiming the 1913 Ruzzle National Championship, not for any rational reason, I'm just claiming it...

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

Silver Bullet 10's picture

The number of college football titles does not define a program. Look at Princeton. They have 28 D1 football titles. 

cjmgobucks's picture

"All Neighborhood" in whiffle ball '85-'88.  I was the only kid on the street but that's irrelevant. I've got the banners to prove my superiority...

"When I look in the mirror, I want to take a swing at me."
Wayne Woodrow Hayes

TilstheHun3's picture

I'm claiming the 1998 Cub Scout Badminton/Shuttlecock National Championship. I went undefeated in my Pack 89 Tournament without losing a single game in any of my matches and never had the chance to play anyone in a post-season tournament from any other packs or dens... In my humble opinion, undefeated = national champion, so the 2012-13 Buckeyes deserve a title too.

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

Buckeye1996's picture

This is turning into a YMCA youth soccer league where everyone gets a trophy.

bucked up's picture

People from the south have always had a habit of revising history to justify themselves. Not surprising. Their obsession with mysticism goes back to the civil war and jim crow years. They always try to argue that things weren't that bad for blacks and slaves in the south.

Knarcisi's picture

Tom Crean served as an advisor on the situation.