Penn State Stuns Ohio State in Overtime

By Kyle Rowland on January 29, 2014 at 9:07p
190 Comments
Penn State moves to 1-17 against Thad Matta

After holding an 11-point lead with just under eight minutes remaining, Ohio State went into a hole. The offense disappeared and Penn State refused to fold. The end result was a dramatic, 71-70, overtime victory for the Nittany Lions. D.J. Newbill made the game-winner with 1.9 seconds remaining.

Aaron Craft had one final chance to pull off a miracle win but couldn’t get off a shot. The Buckeyes have now lost five of six games since starting the season 15-0.

“This feels different from past slumps because of the position we were previously in,” Ohio State head coach Thad Matta said. “We have to be tougher physically and mentally. It’s been stressing us out for weeks now. I don’t like this position but it is the reality of where we’ve put ourselves. We have to come back.”

Ohio State held a double-digit lead with six minutes left in regulation before Penn State began whittling away at it. The Buckeyes led by three with 27 seconds left when Newbill made his first clutch shot of the night. It brought back memories of the 2009 NCAA Tournament when Matta, faced with the same situation against Siena, chose not to foul. It bit the Buckeyes on both occasions.

LaQuinton Ross led Ohio State with 16 points and seven rebounds, Lenzelle Smith Jr. scored 15 points and Amir Williams added 12 points and six rebounds. Craft became the first Buckeye to have 100 or more assists in all four seasons of his career.

Newbill scored a game-high 25 points. Brandon Taylor had 19 and four 3s.

“I just did a right-to-left crossover and pulled up with confidence,” Newbill said of his game-winning shot. “Luckily, it went down.”

After falling behind by 11, the Nittany Lions used a 7-1 run to make the deficit a more manageable five. A subsequent 7-0 spurt after two Ross free throws tied the game with just over a minute left. A basket from Craft and free throw gave the Buckeyes a three-point advantage with 27.3 seconds left. But Pat Chambers drew up a 3 for Newbill that worked to perfection after Smith couldn’t fight through a screen.

Ohio State had multiple attempts near the basket to win in regulation but none fell in.

“We weren’t the tougher basketball team tonight. That’s what it comes down to,” Craft said. “[11-point] lead with however much time left and we just couldn’t pull it off.”

The Buckeyes had beaten the Nittany Lions in their previous 18 meetings, and it was just the second time Penn State won in the 16-year history of Value City Arena.

“We’re a new team. This is 2013-14,” Chambers said. “We’re worried about this year and we can’t be worried about the past.”

In line with recent weeks, Ohio State started slow before finding a groove that included scoring on 11 of its final 14 possessions of the first half. Still, Penn State made 54 percent of its shot in the half, which only gave the Buckeyes a four-point lead.

It looked like turnovers and free throws would end up being the difference. Ohio State scored 19 points off turnovers compared to the Nittany Lions’ six and shot 15 more free throws in regulation than Penn State. But an equalizer was Newbill and nine three-pointers.

“This game hurts the most out of any game since I’ve been at Ohio State,” Smith said. 

The Buckeyes, 16-5 overall and 3-5 in the conference, now enter a two-game grind with consecutive road games at Wisconsin and Iowa.

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Thomas's picture

Dude, seriously.......

COhio Buckeye's picture

This loss for me is on par with the football loss to Indiana in 1987...a very "dark day" for Buckeye Basketball.
Here's to the team playing their hearts out the rest of the way and making some noise in the B1G tournament!

Mute's picture

Can't wait for someone to tweet that it still isn't time to push the panic button

ScarletNGrey01's picture

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

OvalBeachBum's picture

A week ago, that was me.  Now, not so much.  Im pressing the panic button...

"In the words of the late great Colonel Sanders, I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Ricky Bobby

ATXbucknut's picture

To recap this season...

Knarcisi's picture

Looks like Craft's pull up jumper. 

BuckeyeRick's picture

To recap my night...

740Bucks's picture

^^Ron Swanson deserves an upvote!!

"My idea of a good hit is when the guy wakes up on the sidelines with train whistles blowing in his head." - Jack Tatum

740Bucks's picture

NIT

"My idea of a good hit is when the guy wakes up on the sidelines with train whistles blowing in his head." - Jack Tatum

703Buckeye's picture

NOT

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

Seattle Linga's picture

The winner of the CBI Sings ... "Were number 121 - Were number 121"

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

No chemistry on offense. You can't fucking be up by 11 and try to run out the clock by running around for 30 seconds and then throwing something up in the last 5. Un fucking real. We might see a couple more wins this season. This shit is happening at fucking home.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

BuckeyeChief's picture

wow. smdh.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Goes to show how important that go to guy is, like Tank, Sully, or Turner. 

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

Seattle Linga's picture

Boy do I miss ET 

ATXbucknut's picture

Me too. He had a game-winning buzzer beater tonight, too.

 

JozyMozy's picture

AUUUUUGH WHAT A TERRIBLE NO-CALL!!

MAN those Boston CSN guys crack me up. So, so pissy.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

lol was that over Sully?

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

dsbgobux's picture

This is the worst team I have seen from OSU in years. There is no leadership. The turnover by Williams is inexcusable! Look for the ball damn it. You're standing in the paint!

Buckeye in PA purgatory

skid21's picture

I agree. That was unbelievable. What was he paying attention to if not the ball?

AJBor41's picture

I disagree on the leadership part, unless you're equating leadership to scoring ability.  To me, Craft and Smith, among others, appears to be excellent leaders in the way they carry themselves and hustle. They're everything you'd want in players or teammates. 
However, leadership doesn't put the ball in the hoop.  Right now, we have a big man who plays about 6 inches shorter than his height and can't catch, lots of solid defenders and athletes who are mediocre shooters at best, and no true perimeter threat. 

2morrow's picture

Also, I've never seen a team miss so many dunks! Smith missed one last night - and I'm not talking about wildly contested ones either - we must have 6 or more in the last 4 games! Williams is just plain not very good. Ross is not very athletic - I've never seen a player get tied up under the bucket so much  by smaller guys! He always seems to be charging head first into the area around the basket and exposing the ball to the defenders. And what happened to his long range 3 pointers from last year? It is also easy to see as they are passing the ball around out front against the zone that no one really wants to be the one to take a shot.

Buckeye Yard Dog's picture

Lack of leadership is evident. Craft has no offensive game. That has not changed. What has changed is his all out effort on defense. Over the last 3 years I have not seen as many coast to coast layups from other teams. Where is he? Where is the best defensive player that I have ever seen play the game? Give me a highlight of anything on defense he has shown in the last 5 losses. This team is in trouble if he doesn't lead by example. I love Aaron Craft. But, if he doesn't pick it up. He should not be on the floor.

Buckeye Yard Dog

TheChase's picture

Time to blow up whatever they have drawn up.  Try different lineups, try different styles, try something new.  Between Scott missing the bunny putback and Craft not getting the shot off at the end of OT, just frustrating all together to watch.

dsbgobux's picture

They have a plan to blow up? I see why Matta was at the liquor store now.

Buckeye in PA purgatory

rosycheeks's picture

It's been a tough stretch, but at least this team hasn't lost at home to a terrible team yet.

ITWASME's picture

That kinda just happened

JozyMozy's picture

I spy about 3 people so far that didn't get Rosycheeks' joke.

kb1's picture

Is it football season yet?

syphon2677's picture

Lack of recruiting year in year out. Give me 3 4* players every year instead of 4 4* players every 3 years

Knarcisi's picture

Yeah, and stop recruiting the same damn player. Craft = Scott, Thompson = Smith, Williams = McDonald. 

HotSauceCommittee's picture

Great comment. My thoughts exactly.

Idaho Helga's picture

Sadly, and I do mean, sadly, sadly.  The Lions have exactly 2 B1G wins.  They are both against the Bucks.
Excuse me, I just threw up a bit in my mouth. 
 
 
 
 

rock flag and eagle's picture

Penn State is now 2-6 in Big Ten play, with wins against Ohio State (1/29) and Nebraska (1/23)
They play Ohio State for the second time on February 27th.

Knarcisi's picture

Yeah, we lost to Nebraska. Actually worse, and understandably forgettable on your part. 

buckifishr's picture

Dumpster fire sums it up

RedQueenRace's picture

So, were there any PSU fans there and did they storm the court?

gm3jones's picture

I did see one guy jumping in the middle of the court by himself. He was wearing a pedo-state shirt.

There is nothing more remarkable as learning to think better.

buckifishr's picture

Craft and Jr need to graduate. No leadership.

Nutinpa's picture

Um, no.   Plenty of leadership.   No support cast.
I am sure that is what you meant.

tOSUman's picture

Leadership is not the problem. Scoring is the problem. We have recruited a bunch of guys who are all the same--6'6", athletic but can't score too well. We don't have too many guys who can consistently knock down a jump shot when someone attacks the defense.

Doc's picture

Matta's 20 win streak is in serious jeopardy. Absolutely no offense. There isn't one single guy on the floor that can score. Della Valle was scoring tonight, why wasn't he on the court in the end?

"Say my name."

Knarcisi's picture

20 win streak ... That's like an 8 win football season anymore. 

thePhilipJFry's picture

Yeah and the 20 win season streak is not in jeopardy, that ship sailed.

HotSauceCommittee's picture

Pretty sad that this ended up being the same team as last season minus D Thomas's scoring. So vanilla, so offensively challenged.

nm_buck's picture

a dull predictable offense... and a defense that seems to regress more and more each game.
dang that was hard to watch

GoBucksOSU's picture

Just going to state my honest opinion. This team is pathetic.

Hovenaut's picture

Still plenty of basketball to be played.....but hopefully not like this.

Tough night.

Hate Week runneth over

nm_buck's picture

if matta brings this team back into contention he should get coach of the decade

topgun67's picture

don't worry.  won't happen

Hovenaut's picture

Or start walking on water.....

Ultimately, it's up to the guys on the court. I know it's been said to death, but someone needs to step up.

Hate Week runneth over

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Still plenty of basketball to be played.

Unfortunately, you sir are correct.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Waltbuck's picture

A few thoughts.  New low. Is Lenzelle going for the OSU record of missed dunks?  Amir should not even play.  Shannon has cost us at least two games. I would completely blow up the line up.  Start Craft, Della Valle, Smith, Loving, and Laquniton.

KevinJ's picture

Smith had a chance to salt the game away and bricked his 1st free throw so much for SR leadership. This game shouldn't have went to OT! I have to say I'm not going to miss the 2013/2014 team.  

jaxbuckeye's picture

What really irked me about that play was that he laughed after it.  To me, when you've lost 4 of the last 5 and you brick a chance to put the game away, that's just not funny.
And that seems to be a common theme: guys that seem like they just don't care (Williams, Ross, etc)

topgun67's picture

what a crap of a team.
craft sucks ... sorry but he can't shoot. 
Smith sucks..misses key FTs all the time
Ross disappears 
Scott - cannot believe we could have had the other MI point guard who is now in NBA
Thompson - good for dunks.
Amir - why anyone passes to him at end of game is mystery.  he always does what he did tonight
this team is a stinking bad...
i mean stinking bad

LouBuck35's picture

Amir has some of the poorest hands on a big at the D1 level. I thought the awkwardness he showed as a freshman was him just growing into his frame...it appears I'm terribly mistaken. Any center we've had in the past 10 years takes that pass from Ross and flushes it. Instead, he ends up on his face with the ball going the other way. And he's only a small piece of the problem...

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

RoyWalley's picture

What a crap of a team sums it up pretty well.  Lose to State Penn, wow, you must really suck.

Mute's picture

Reminder that OSU passed up Burke for Scott

Buckeye Chuck's picture

OK, that does it. Blow it up and play the kids!
 
Wait--what? You tell me we don't have any kids (just one sophomore and one freshman)? That's this is the most veteran team in the entire Big Ten stinking it up on a nightly basis?
 
In that case, I don't have any ideas. That and a bad back are the two things I have in common with Thad Matta.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

hudsonsamuel's picture

Amir is Asoft

What you are speaks so loud,I can't hear a word you say.

-1 HS
Thomas's picture

Lenzelle is shooting like 40% dunking. 

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

Lololol just made my night

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

FLAMikey's picture

He now leads the known universe in dunk fails.

buckeyeboy31's picture

Lenzelle can be gone as far as I'm concerned.  You're up late with minimal time left, and you're chucking up 3 pointers....GSO bro.  Amir Williams, you might as well cut your hands off bro b/c they're useless.  Craft, you're smart....you have 1.9 seconds left, get a shot off.  Pathetic performance.  I'd roll with Craft/Thompson/Ross/Loving/Amir(sadly) and then bring Scott/ADV/Smith/McD off the bench.......worst basketball since the jim o'brien days

urbz4prez's picture

We just got sandusky'd...........too soon?......nahhhh.....

"And Urban Meyer said "Let there be light, and it was so."

wyatt's picture

Even when the officials gave OSU two terrible calls they couldn't win.  No shooters, no leaders, no basketball IQ in critical situations.....

buckeyepastor's picture

Looking at the remaining schedule, I see four, maybe five games that could be solid wins.  In fact, we'll have to really improve and get an upset on the road to finish above .500.  I keep telling myself "February and March is what matters."  But this isn't a team that's young and waiting for a light to come on, and it's not a team that's just hit a bit of a cold spell.  They are a team without an identity or confidence on offense.  
I know that recruiting stars are sometimes meaningless, but how do we get talent and junior/senior leadership up and down the roster and not have a legit scoring threat.   Yeah, I get it that Q Ross is our LEADING scorer, but even a winless team has a LEADING scorer.  And I know in previous years we've occasionally had a leading scorer in the mid-teens for an average, but that was because a few others were averaging in double digits, as well.  
Just realized I finally got my wish.  Been hoping for an OSU squad that goes 8 or 9 deep (or more) in terms of spreading around the scoring.   This team's bench is almost as involved and contributing as their starting line-up, but it's only because both are struggling.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

LouBuck35's picture

After losing to PSU, I'd be hesitant to call ANYONE on the schedule a "solid win".

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

Buckeyes44's picture

Walt buck nailed it. That lineup puts us up 11 points. Then we sub in starters and just like that it's tied. Neither option is stellar but I'll take the one that produced points. Hell I'll take anything that produces points on this team! 

Skull

ballgame's picture

Ouch. For this team games like this are a definite must win. At this rate, it's highly possible that they finish out the regular season with 10 or 11 losses, which would mean we're looking at a potential bubble team for the tourney depending on how they do in the big ten tournament. I'd like to think they get it together and start playing better basketball, but they aren't instilling a ton of confidence at the moment. Can't lose games like this. Hope they can figure it out.

Jack Fu's picture

They're trying. They're just not good.

Knarcisi's picture

Actually I question our effort defensively at times. 

Buckeye Yard Dog's picture

Can not watch anymore. I really can't. I hate that my kids are watching with me. And, I have to explain to them when they ask, why aren't they getting back on defense? My kids are in middle school. That sums our problems up for me. How many coast to coast layups are we giving up a game. Why can't their effort show in that one category. GET BACK ON DEFENSE!
 

Buckeye Yard Dog

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Pre-season brilliant analysis gone awry:

The team will actually be better without that ball hog Deshaun Thomas.

 

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

LouBuck35's picture

Remember when we had people who could score in the post? Tank would just take his man to the block, demand it, and score.  There is no one on the roster who is capable or willing to do that right now, especially when they need a bucket.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

Buckeye Chuck's picture

It's funny because people did believe that. But I think it's also becoming apparent that this recent run of success was based on having great individual talent, and now that it's all gone, we're being exposed. A Jim O'Brien could cobble together a 10-8 Big Ten record with some middling recruits and Serbians, but a Matta team without elite talent is mostly a lot of guys passing the ball around the perimeter waiting for someone to come save them.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Jack Fu's picture

Pre-season brilliant analysis gone awry:
The team will actually be better without that ball hog Deshaun Thomas.

If anyone actually said that (and sadly, I'm pretty sure some did), they're blind, wild-eyed homers who should never be listened to, about anything, ever.

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

There were actually times when we were more efficient with Thomas on the bench last season.  I was one of those that figured we would stand to improve this year if everyone else just got slightly better offensively, added to an even stouter defense.  Obviously that's not what is happening this year.  
The fact is, Deshaun Thomas was clutch shooting the ball when we needed him to be.  Teams with good offenses always have that guy.  We are losing the close games because other teams have that guy and you can't stop that no matter how good your defense is.  Since Q refuses to be that guy, even when he's playing well, not having Thomas this year is hurting big time.  
I also think that Craft, with his recent engagement added to the fact that he's a senior pre-med major, is taking his focus off the game.  He's also revamped his shooting stroke in the offseason TWICE and it's actually made his shooting worse.  If he thought he had bad mechanics earlier in his career, maybe he should quit overanalyzing.  There are lots of great hitters in baseball with ugly, fundamentally awful swings, and yet they succeed.

RuGettinIt's picture

ADV and Loving on the floor please.  Ross and Smith and even Ross can sit.  These guys are not producing.  Ross disappears all the time.  

Son of Sevenless's picture

Sad when the only decent shooter, Ross, seems disinterested half of the time. Even worse is the fact that now the defense is starting to fall apart. 

jaxbuckeye's picture

Ross and Williams combined don't even have the interest level of one person.  Seem like they'd rather be doing anything but playing basketball.

Josh P's picture

So about Wisconsin on Saturday...?

GoBucksOSU's picture

Will probably be as bad of a blow out as it was last year in Madison.

Mute's picture

75-43 Wisconsin

SweetBabyJames's picture

i have always liked the basketball bucks...alwayed tuned into the games...
im not saying this team is trash, or anything like that....
but they aint too fun to watch

toad1204's picture

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

bodast67's picture


Me after this game....

 

 

 

     " I hope when I die, I die laughing"...                

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

And again this morning!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

buckeye4life050233's picture

amir is one of the main problems on this team.....defensively if we have one breakdown in 1on1 matchups he is always a step late to be in help position or is always one of the last back on defense in transition....he is the only rim protector and isn't protecting a whole lot of space recently....

RedStorm45's picture

O/U ... 9th place in the conference?

jbirmmd's picture

Under. No reason to think we are better than anyone right now.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

I'll state one more thing.... Hope many times can we force drive the lane with no outs? That's low bball iq... You learn that shit as a kid!

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

jaxbuckeye's picture

This team is fundamentally weak.  Every PG in the history of the game has been told to let the big man set the pick before dribbling, except of course the one's at tOSU (looking at you Shannon Scott).

Seattle Linga's picture

Holy Moly ............ Remember when we were undefeated?

BukFan's picture

Serious question.  Most overrated team EVER???

Son of Sevenless's picture

Maybe. Could be a fall from third in the country to the bottom of the big ten. Can't shoot threes, can't shoot twos, can't make free throws, and... can't dunk.

BME_Buckeye's picture

I'm glad I don't have cable to watch this team fall apart. Losing to Nebraska and Penn State is a recipe for making the NIT. Maybe we can get a one seed for the NIT if we are lucky.
BTW, Frick you Michigan Lurkers reading this thread. I know your skimming this thread enjoying the meltdown. Well enjoy it damn it. Sigh. :(

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

johnblairgobucks's picture

BTW, Frick you Michigan Lurkers reading this thread. I know your skimming this thread enjoying the meltdown.

yeah, Michigan still blows.

Jdadams01's picture

I don't think this team likes playing together. Craft appears more and more to just be over playing college basketball. And I'm seriously missing Jent right now.

skid21's picture

Craft appears more and more to just be over playing college basketball.

I'm not sure what Craft is doing if he is over playing college hoops. Looking forward to graduate school? As far as hoops goes this is his only stage IMO.

Jdadams01's picture

He knows he isn't going NBA. He is also engaged now and has to think career plans. And I think he simply doesn't have a lot of friends on the team any more. I don't see him get pumped up or interact with other players like he used to.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Great point.  He used to get fired up.  You would think it would have increased now that he is a senior. 

Buckeye Yard Dog's picture

Craft has checked out. On to Med School. Thanks for the GREAT 3 years.

Buckeye Yard Dog

vitaminB's picture

You're just wrong.  He's still diving for loose balls, playing great D.  Just because he didn't get a shot off don't assume he's checked out.  The problem is that we're starting two point guards who have the same weaknesses.

buckeyebowhunter's picture

It is time for a lineup change.  If for no other reason than to show that you are trying everything to right the ship.  I think you have to start Loving or Della Valle and put scott on the bench to start off with.  I also think you need to look hard at possibly starting McDonald over Williams at least for a few games.  Perhaps that may motivate Williams to work harder, because I just haven't witnessed much progress in his game since he has been in Columbus.  
I think the big problem is that Matta has recruited too many great athletes that are sub-par shooters.  The name of the game is still putting the ball in the hole and unfortunately that is something we just aren't designed to do.  We need to scour the planet for another Diebler or two.
 
 

allbucksallthetime's picture

Unfortunately, the real true weaknesses of this group weren't revealed until the competition got better in B1G play.  Now that they have been exposed, combined with the lack of confidence, and the result is one of the worst losses I have seen in years for tOSU.  
While always looking for something to feel good about, I don't see a solution in sight.  Here's to hoping...Go Bucks!       

KevinJ's picture

This is the worst team since the 2007/2008 team, at least that team was very young, grew and got better. This current team I think has topped out which is painfully to say.  

Jack Fu's picture

The '07-'08 squad would wipe the floor with this team. That team had two freshmen - Koufos and Turner - who would easily be the best player on this year's team.

Knarcisi's picture

Lightly, Diebler (who had a rough Fr year), Hunter (big man that showed some attitude), Butler (PG that could score). 

skid21's picture

I love Matta but why don't his players improve? I know you have Turner but what other players have really improved beyond what you would expect? Craft, Smith, Thompson...name a player...doesn't look any better (some worse) than last year. Ross certainly hasn't shown much growth. Buford, Lighty, etc.?
 

Knarcisi's picture

Buford regressed big time. Diebler imrpoved. Lighty improved offensively because of the work he put in. 

Jnowie's picture

Too many great "athletes", not enough great basketball players....especially shooters/scorers. Craft and Scott are unable to shoot with any consistency at all. Sam Thompson/Lenzelle Smith same problem. Bigs....no hands, can't shoot, below average defenders. See a trend here, yeah we all do. It is painful to watch these kids play offense. MOST are trying hard, but it seems a poorly constructed group.

jNowie

jbirmmd's picture

This!

I think most of the kids are giving solid effort, they are just being put in a no win situation right now. The line up that keeps losing these late games (Q, Smith, Craft, Scott, and Amir) is filled with guys that can't reliably score and gives serious match up problems on defense particularly against good athletes. We score more reliably with ADV and Loving on the court.

chowoon97's picture

Hard to believe this worst loss. Now going to the road game in Wisconsin and Iowa.              Harder to believe that we get a win from them.
 

jaxbuckeye's picture

Hey, at least we have the best coach in college basketball, right?

johnblairgobucks's picture

WTF EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Matta is putrid!!!!

2004–2005 Ohio State 20–12 8–8 6th Ineligible
2005–2006 Ohio State 26–6 12–4 1st NCAA Second Round
2006–2007 Ohio State 35–4 15–1 1st NCAA Runner-up
2007–2008 Ohio State 24–13 10–8 5th NIT Champions
2008–2009 Ohio State 22–11 10–8 T–4th NCAA First Round
2009–2010 Ohio State 29–8 14–4 T–1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2010–2011 Ohio State 34–3 16–2 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2011–2012 Ohio State 31–8 13–5 T–1st NCAA Final Four
2012–2013 Ohio State 29–8 13–5 T–2nd NCAA Elite Eight
2013–2014 Ohio State 16–4 3–4

 

jaxbuckeye's picture

You MUST be a great coach if you win a lot of games.
                               -Mike Brown

johnblairgobucks's picture

I guess he's lucky he didn't have to out-coach any of the 16+ schools Ohio State has beaten during any of his 5 runs to the Sweet 16 or deeper. 

jaxbuckeye's picture

Usually he didn't because in most games, he had the better players.  Ultimately he lost to the likes of Wichita State and Sienna anyway.  I see a lot of people blaming the players but only a few talking about how not one player on this team has seemed to have been developed.  Remind me again who is responsible for that?  JUST the player?

johnblairgobucks's picture

well they are 15-5.    If you think Matta is to blame for Craft's lack of jump shot, LS Jr's sub-par shooting of Amir's lack of awareness/toughness, than I don't know what to tell you.  A Coach can only coach, the player has to "do".  Matta can only be faulted for not being able to cure certain members of this year's team mental blocks. 
If Deshaun Thomas hadn't left this squad last year for the spoils of the Euroleague, this team would have a competent rebounder, a good outside shooter and a player that could score in the paint, and this team would look much better.
But that's just my opinion.

jaxbuckeye's picture

I respect your opinion.  But, I respectfully disagree.  A coach has more responsibility than coaching (in reference to your statement, "A Coach can only coach").  A coach is also a teacher.  It's Matta's job to teach.  Obviously you can't get through to everyone.  But, being a college coach is unique.  Not only are you coaching, but you recruit the players you coach.  You build your team (unlike HS and the NBA where you either take what's there or what someone else builds).  I would argue that I cannot name one single player on the current team that has gotten better on Matta's watch.  Williams looks just as bad (I would argue worse) as when he started.  I had hope for Thompson but that disappeared.  Scott, after a strong start against arguably weaker teams, has not progressed.  Hell, I would argue that offensively Craft has gotten worse!
People aren't going to like to hear this but other than possibly Turner that MAY have gotten better during his time on campus, I see only three types of players under Matta:
1) Players that come to the program basically already complete players: see Sully, Thomas, etc
2) Players that show absolutely no growth: see a LONG list, including Scott, Ross, Buford, etc
3) Players that actually regress: see Craft's jump shot, Amir Williams, etc
 
 
 

jaxbuckeye's picture

Anyway, we can agree to disagree.  Hopefully people understand, despite my comments, I am not giving up on the team.  ANYTHING can happen.  That's what makes March so great.  I am just really troubled by trends that I see and that many fans only lay it at the feet of the players.  To me they are there to get better based on the teaching of the staff.
Have a great evening.

skid21's picture

If you think Matta is to blame for Craft's lack of jump shot, LS Jr's sub-par shooting of Amir's lack of awareness/toughness, than I don't know what to tell you.  A Coach can only coach, the player has to "do".

I have to disagree. A coach isn't only expected to call plays on game days. They spend endless hours with these kids, get paid lots of money, and are expected to actually make a difference in terms of making these guys better players. Not a novel concept.

johnblairgobucks's picture

They spend endless hours with these kids, get paid lots of money, and are expected to actually make a difference in terms of making these guys better players. Not a novel concept.

So the next time Braxton throws an INT in a potential loss or OSU doesn't win the NC next year or a couple of 4/5 star recruits don't pan out, you'll be questioning Urban as well?

jaxbuckeye's picture

BTW, if not the guy that recruited (i.e. BUILT) this team and coaches it, then who?  Please share your wisdom.  Let me guess, it's ALL on the players. 

johnblairgobucks's picture

 
Yeah, I'm sure he envisioned that this team would excel without Sullinger and Thomas.  He probably knew Amir was going to not develop, but he wanted to be Head Coach at OSU, not do anything worth while, make a ton of money and embarrass such knowledgeable basketball fans such as yourself.
OSU basketball history, where Final 4's grow on trees...... 
I've been watching tOSU basketball since the 1980's and you know how many Final 4's I saw the Buckeyes make before Matta? 1
You would have thought Dennis Hopson, Clark Kellog and Jim Jackson would have made their Piss Ant Head Coaches look good by making runs through the tournament, too.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Where did you read in any of my comments that Thad shouldn't be given credit for turning around a horrendous program?  But how long does that equity last?  I appreciate the difficult job that Fickell did too.  But, I don't give him a free pass.  Nor do I give one to Matta.  He DOES share responsibility for the losses as well as the wins.
OK, I'm out.  Have a great evening.

johnblairgobucks's picture

Do you guys think Matta should be able to take a bunch of players like Mark Titus and turn them into a team of Larry Birds?  Sometimes kids are what they are.  Taking high school kids and coaching them until they are 21/22 can pretty much be a crap shoot......
Gregg Marshall led Wichita State past Matta and the Buckeyes last year, and into the Final 4, why?  Because Wichita State made more shots than the Buckeyes.  Do you want Gregg Marshall running things in Columbus?  Seriously?  I mean he took less athletically gifted kids and to the Final 4 and one night they made more 3 point jump shots than the Buckeyes.....

jaxbuckeye's picture

Problem with your statement is that Matta doesn't have a bunch of players like Mark TItus, he has a bunch of McDonald's all americans and Mr basketballs that HE recruited.

costinjr's picture

Remember Randy Ayers? I'll take Matta any day of the weak, regardless of how this season pans out. I think people can dream all they want about getting a big name coach, but if you get rid of Matta, that's not gonna happen.

funky123's picture

That was a back breaker. Hate to  see Craft go out this way. 

Poison nuts's picture

Bad, bad, bad. You'd be hard pressed to find a more positive guy than me when it comes to the Bball Bucks, but yeah - this season is a wrap IMO - no way to sugar coat what's happening. These guys just aren't too good...they just don't have it on the court. No genuine scoring threat (Ross was not the answer), no powerful big, just not a group that plays well together.
I haven't thrown in the towel on an OSU team - this early in a long, long, time. But frankly, it's time to look toward next year. Put Loving, ADV, & Kam out there because it can't be any worse than what we're seeing right now.

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

jbirmmd's picture

Ross just clearly isn't cut out to be that "go to" guy. He has some food skills but is weak on the dribble drive, inconsistent with shooting and generally has a rough time making a shot for himself. I don't think he has an NBA career in his future.

skid21's picture

I'm not sure what food skills has to do with basketball but I agree that Ross isn't, and will never be, a go to guy. I heard Matta refer to him as stubborn. I can only guess what he meant by that but the results on the court indicate he isn't willing to learn the game and become a more reliable player.

jbirmmd's picture

LOL. Good, not food. But maybe my typo actually covers his skill set better!!

LouBuck35's picture

heard he whips up a mean quiche..

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

skid21's picture

I'm with you nuts. I've been a hoops fan for years and this team is hard to believe in. A loss at home to PSU pretty much defines it. Ross most certainly isn't the answer. No one has stepped up and Smith isn't a player you can rely on to win you games. Craft, Scott, Ross and Thompson all look worse this season than last. I'm not sure what Matta and the team were doing this offseason but it wasn't anything that would make them a better team.

OhioKris's picture

Aaron Craft is in a no win situation.
He is a role player, not a go to player. 
tonight against one of the worst defenses in country (PSU is ranked 240th in points allowed.) 
btw, OSU is 9th. 
 
Craft was on the court for 41 mins (longer than anyone else on team) and put up 8 points. 
he was 3-6 from the field and 1-1 behind the arc. 
meanwhile, Amedeo Della Valle was on the court for 16 mins and puts 8 points. 
 
what Matta is gonna have to come to terms with is no one needs to be on the court longer than 20 mins with this. No one is good enough on this team to command that kind of time. We just need to keep rotating guys in and out.  Beat teams with our speed in transition, and fresh bodies for hard nose D all game.  
 

Knarcisi's picture

No, Craft and Scott don't need to be on the court together for 30 minutes. 
Too bad Sully came to us and we really didn't have to recruit him. We missed out on seeing Trey Burke play. 

Crumb's picture

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

Yamosu's picture

We lost a game at home where we attempted 20 more free throws then the opposing team.  20.... Where is the dumpster fire, I am looking to end the pain.  
 
The last three months have just been so much fun.

GrayDay's picture

Craft did not suck or lose that game.  He's the only one making them remotely competitive, without him this team loses by 15 in regulation. Yeah, he should have gotten off a shot at the end, but you know it wasn't going in even if he had.

Tim's picture

I still find it hard to believe that a group of very athletic Division I basketball players who practice playing basketball a lot can have such a hard time scoring points.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Not just have a hard time scoring, but even going to a university where they get to practice their craft under the tutelage of coaches, seemed to have regressed.

SgtMdx's picture

After each game, I keep telling myself they can't look any worse but incredibly, I am wrong every time I say it. Damn, that was a hard watch. I'm not sure a W would've made me feel any better about it. How can TOSU not have at least one player that create his own shot?

The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle.
Gen. John "Black Jack" Pershing, U.S. Army
 

PharmBuck's picture

Just terrible all around. Do yourselves a favor and stop watching the games like I have. Saves much frustration.

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."

OhioKris's picture

Well theres two ways to think about this. 
How would this team react if they showed to a home game with a only a couple hundred fans were there? Would they get the point, or would their already shattered egos flatline?
I'm going with the ladder, this team needs all the support we can muster. Trust me, no one in that locker room is happy and they all probably have the game of basketball right now. They need to get back to having fun, and if we tune them out they'll take it as a sign that,
well everyone else has given up on us. i guess we should as well.  
This team reminds me of the movie - Blue Chips and the first team at the beginning of the movie that wasn't very good and Nick Nolte's character he was forced to go out and cheat to get better players to meet the demand for a great team. (not saying Matta needs to cheat) but the team is probably trying harder than we'll ever know to pull themselves out of this funk but we only see W's and L's.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz1ZvOcmBQs

USMC11917's picture

I'm going with the ladder

Me too....but away from the ladder, just forgot the rope.

 

osubuckeye4life's picture

Now I know what being a Browns fan is like. :(

Tim's picture

I root for the Buckeyes and the Cavs.  I hate basketball this year.

NoVA Buckeye's picture

Two words: Drug Olympics

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

teddyballgame's picture

We are Penn st's only two wins in the b1g.
 

Buckeye Scottie's picture

Wonder how purple Thad got in the lockerroom after this one.  I hope he went full-on Grimace.
Amir Williams should just pack is f'ing bags and give back is scholly.  Only 7-footer I know that cannot protect the basket.  That shit is the EASY part.  You guard the damn rim and jump.  You are 3 feet taller than everyone else.  But no, we get a guard that splits a double team at the top of the arc and makes an UNCONTESTED LAYUP WITH 10 GAWDDAMN SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME.
And then with a chance to win it, you get a bounce pass that hits you in the nads because obviously it is easier to cath a basketball with your nads than your hands, and you softly dive out of bounds trying to save it.  You know what, just stay there laying on the baseline, that is about all you have contributed since the 'real' season started.
And Lenzelle, a layup is also worth 2 points.  Slap the hell out of the backboard too, when you make that layup.  Because a missed dunk is worth 0.  There ain't no French judge giving you an 8.5 for clanging a damn dunk.
We have been spoiled recently with the Basketbucks, but damn, this is just plain AWFUL to watch. Now where did I put that paper bag that I was breathing into?

FLAMikey's picture

anyone who is ambulatory can get a shot up on Amir.

Buckeye Yard Dog's picture

Amir is playing scared. Like he is in elementary school vs. NBA players. He is so nervous and tentative. What I would give to have his frame and ability. What a waste!

Buckeye Yard Dog

bdegroff's picture

At some point, a players pride should take over. It's their season and their legacy. Matta will have more great years and will always be a great coach. However, this season is a wash. I have nothing against Penn St. or Nebraska. Nevertheless, that should be 2 - 4 wins every year. Instead, the bucks are 1 - 3. As a coach its sitting time. If you're not performing, take a seat. The freshman shooter on the bench red-shirting is playing the rest of the way. And if Craft can't get along with the guys... Boo hoo! Grow a set and be a leader. The rosy cheeks aren't saving your season. Everyone knows you're an energy guy. It's not impressing anyone anymore! Do something different, like score. Or, slap around Williams once in awhile. Smith needs a few as well.
Anyway, could we get a gray box or something positive??

jamesrbrown322's picture

How long until the Navy game...?

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

USMC11917's picture

Really don't want to sound like one of those fans but I feel like I have no choice. Thanks for your efforts team but I am not impressed. Very unsatisfied with this season. I know they aren't happy with it either. I don't want to sound like an ungrateful, spoiled fan but right now I don't see a lot to be thankful for this season. Has anyone developed over the years that they have been here? It seems like once our good players leave we wait for the next great one to show up on campus. Who is the last player to significantly improve his game by staying an extra 1 or 2 years? Maybe Tank? Was his an improvement or just a necessity to shoot more? I am thinking Diebler was the last to actually develop. Even Buford showed signs of regressing his senior year. Maybe my disappointment in a loss is just making me see all of the blemishes over the years instead of appreciating the positives? Anyhow.... Go Bucks and goodnight.

Jack_Q_Football's picture

#SeanMillerToOSU
 
 
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johnblairgobucks's picture

nice douche comment from the troll with the thread saying you were convinced the Buckeyes were going to the Final 4 this year.  You want to replace your coach that you think is going to the Final 4?
 

Jack_Q_Football's picture

There was a question mark below my hash tag comment, dicky. Learn. How. To. Read.

Go1Bucks's picture

I blame Matta here. Watch and saw that the players needed guidance on how to hold off PSU resurgence, game was miss managed at end even in light of poor offensive numbers and decisions by players late in game.  
Can NOT get a handke on the refs.  Causes more problems than lack of offense.
Cant wait til next years team offense changes us, need Myles Turner to complete class.
 

Go Bucks!

johnblairgobucks's picture

  I blame Matta here. Watch and saw that the players needed guidance on how to hold off PSU resurgence, game was miss managed at end

OSU team: Coach we're up by 8 with time running down, we're at home what should we do?
Matta:  we need to score some baskets, but if we stay aggressive, draw fouls and just make our free throws, we really shouldn't lose.
Craft, Scott, Ross: Coach, Amir pretends like he's posting up at the top of the key, but when he gets down on the block, he never raises his arms above his head or trys to estalish position, WTF?
Matta:  I have no idea WTF he is doing out there.
OSU team: Coach we're losing now, what do we do?
Matta:  Somebody needs to make a shot.... Lenzell drive that ball in there and dunk it!..... If that's not open, pass it inside to Amir, so he can catch it, then power it up for the slam...... Guys if we get Scott an easy look at the basket within 10 feet, it'll be money......

Go1Bucks's picture

Good one

Go Bucks!

O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

If only we could shoot 3s at the rate I drop F-bombs when watching this team.
Oh well, stick with it guys. Time to play the role of spoiler. 

Jack_Q_Football's picture

When it comes to hands, unfortunately Amir Williams is the exact opposite of Cris Carter.

Knarcisi's picture

How were we blowing teams out a month ago?

jamesrbrown322's picture

OSU blew out a lot of BAD teams.
PSU and Nebraska are the worst combination of losses in such a short time that I can remember in a long time...

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

Brutus's picture

It's a lost season.  So be it. I'm amazingly at peace with this. This team was always going to overachieve if they were to have any success this year.  Sadly, losing to both Nebraska and PSU in the same season no matter who is in the lineup can only be considered underachieving, but I'm willing to give them a pass considering it's been a great run the last few seasons. We've been spoiled and now we want more but we just don't have the players to get us there.  Sorry to see Craft go out like this, but what can you do. Just beat scUM and give us all some sense of comfort.

Go1Bucks's picture

I am so utterly disappointed about tonite.  What is with the free throws, coulda won it there.  Whats with letting threes when they coulda forced them into the lane for 2.  Whats with the weak OT play 3 games now?  Hell, I need another beer.
 

Go Bucks!

FROMTHE18's picture

How can anyone blame Matta? This team has no true scoring threat nor do they have a big guy inside. Amir Williams is laughable for a guy his size. This team is what it is: horrendous. From top to bottom the roster is arguably the worst Matta has had since his time at OSU. Help is on the way though so just need to ride this crap season out and get ready for a lot of youth. 

gm3jones's picture

I can (possibly) blame him for having a team full of upper classmen and not have one of them become a superstar (at least a college superstar or late second round NBA pick I would be happy with).
Smith and Craft are seniors. They have been around the block a few times and could actually be the same as when they came in as freshmen. They still cant shoot the rock and recognize important moments in games and become the best player on court.
Amir...well we know how well he has developed
Thompson... loaded with potential but hasnt developed
Scott... see craft remarks
These are all his recruits and he has not developed them properly. Maybe it is time to get Mattas seat a little warm (NOT SAYING WE SHOULD FIRE HIM) because he has as big a hand in this stink-fest this year as players.

There is nothing more remarkable as learning to think better.

jamesrbrown322's picture

This was going to happen eventually.  Krzyzewski, Knight, Smith, R. Williams, Self, Calipari, and many others have always had a year or two here and there where things just don't work out. They have all had subpar and disappointing seasons. As we have discussed with football, success can be very cyclical, particularly in basketball when so many players leave early, whether it's after one, two, or even three seasons.
Matta will turn it around next year and into the future. They have some very good and exciting prospects coming in over the next 3 years, so everything will be fine.
IMO this team was constructed assuming, quite safely based on recruiting rankings and media reports, that Amir Williams could be the focal point of this offense with Shannon Scott creating shots for others and slashing to the hoop, with Ross dropping bombs from outside. However, these dominoes have not fallen, and the players have not really panned out.
Craft was never meant to be the focal point of the offense, nor even any kind of offensive threat. Running the offense through him, and forcing him to create his own shot, has exposed how mediocre of an offensive player he is. That's not necessarily his fault, but it is true that he has become a liability on offense, and trying harder and forcing plays by him has not helped the team either.
How long before we get to see Brax run out on the field vs. Navy? It can't get here soon enough!

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

gm3jones's picture

Yeah I have 100% confidence that he will turn it around. I am not trying to say that he is not the coach for the job either. I am just saying that he needs to have a little better coaching staff that knows how to eye offensive talent lol :-)
I am with you with opening day for football. Already making travel plans to watch them. It should be awesome. I was in the Navy for 5 years, now I get to watch my favorite football team play against them (and smash them). Who else is making the trip?  
 

There is nothing more remarkable as learning to think better.

NCBUCKNUT's picture

This team has been invaded by a cancer of Amir. No PASSION!
 
 

Make Will-Way your Way!

RBuck's picture

The stat that surprised me is that the Buckeyes only had 8 turnovers. Seemed like 20+.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

TossTrap's picture

Lenzelle Smith's quote on what the buckeyes lack is quite correct “Toughness. Character. Camaraderie. Leadership”. Let me add one other - Basketball IQ (hell, maybe IQ period).

First and goal at the five and Arch is getting the ball.