Buckeyes Fall at Nebraska, Losing Streak Reaches Four

By Kyle Rowland on January 20, 2014 at 9:07p
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It’s not often that Lincoln, Nebraska is abuzz with basketball happenings. But that’s exactly what happened Monday night in Nebraska’s capital city. Pinnacle Bank Arena was bedlam after Tim Miles got his signature win for the program he’s attempting to build from the ground up.

For the first time in six seasons, Ohio State’s lost four consecutive games. The Cornhuskers upended the Buckeyes 68-62 Monday night in front of a boisterous home crowd in brand-new Pinnacle Bank Arena. It was quite the turnaround for Nebraska, which lost by 31 points in Columbus on Jan. 4.

Sixteen days later, Miles was in the middle of a throng of court-storming fans.

Eight Ohio State players scored, with Aaron Craft’s 12 points leading the way. LaQuinton Ross had 11 and Lenzelle Smith Jr. scored 10.

Once again, the Buckeyes were vulnerable in the lane, where the Huskers scored 38 points. In the past three losses – Iowa, Minnesota and Nebraska – Ohio State’s surrendered 120 points in the paint. Aaron Craft’s turnover barrage also continued. He has 19 during the four-game skid. He and Scott have a combined 31 assists and 31 turnovers over the same four games.

The second-largest crowd in the new arena’s history – 15,342 – saw the Huskers cruise to a 14-point first-half lead thanks to a 13-0 run. The 17th-ranked Buckeyes went six minutes without a single point and nearly seven minutes without a field goal.

A purple-faced Thad Matta delivered a message that was received.  Five quick points before halftime trimmed the deficit to single digits. An 18-2 run to begin the second half put Ohio State in front. Nebraska only scored nine points during a 15-minute stretch over the first and second halves.

The Huskers regained their composure down the stretch, though, using a 16-5 spurt to take control and rebuild a double-digit advantage. They converted 13 of their last 16 free throws to keep the Buckeyes at bay.

Ohio State shot 39.6 percent from the field and a horrendous 66.7 percent from the free throw line. The Buckeyes were also subpar from three-point range, finishing 6 of 21. Nebraska only made two shots from long range, but connected on 50 percent of its field goals. A 20-of-26 free throw performance dazzled.

Ohio State falls to 15-4 overall and 2-4 in the Big Ten. The Buckeyes host Illinois on Thursday.

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DefendYoungstown's picture

Is it football season yet???

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

chitown buckeye's picture

At this point, I'd  take spring intramural coed sand volleyball...

"I'm having a heart attack!"

ITWASME's picture

I just want to know what happened, it's not just the competition getting better I mean we already beat Nebraska by 31

Poison nuts's picture

Right. There is some sort of problem here that we aren't seeing - possibly behind the scenes, but there is something very wrong. I could understand the loss to MSU & even Iowa. Minnesota? Well, ok, I guess. Nebraska? A team that got their asses completely handed to them once already? No, that I don't get. Wtf happened? I don't know - but there just seems to be more to this than meets the eye.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

jbirmmd's picture

I hate getting into this kind of speculation as well, but it does seem as if the chemistry has gone to hell recently.

Bolt's picture

Could be that teams have figured out a formula to beat us since we're so helpless on offense outside of Q...and even he is prone to shooting us in the foot with bad turnovers in crucial moments. I'll admit I didn't get to watch the Nebraska game, but from what I've seen, teams are playing defense to clog the inside because we can't shoot and force our perimeter players into uncomfortable positions and to have active hands because we're prone to turnover. We seem to be regressing in terms of shooting the ball and players like Craft are trying desperately to get inside and make plays/anything happen offensively but the other teams are packing it in and there's too much traffic and we don't take care of the ball well enough in heavy traffic. As for our defense inside, I think teams that are capable of scoring inside with a decent big man are finding that's the best and sometimes only way to attack us...and when Amir is out of the game heaven help us on the inside.

wyatt's picture

The streak stays alive..    Can't figure out what the problem is.....other than everything.  Wow.

thePhilipJFry's picture

An historically bad offense combined with a sneaky bad defense.  4 straight games under 1 point per possession (B1G average is 1.07, as for the reason you can pick your deficiency, this team can't shoot, dribble, pass or rebound).  This is the second game in a row that the Buckeyes have let an opponent make 64% of two point attempts.  More times than I could count Buckeye defenders in the lane vacated rather than stop the opponents drive.  Now if you are going to play Craft and Scott for their defense (surely it can't be for their offense, cue Airplane!) then opposing guards can't be allowed in the lane this easily.
With each passing game, the mystery of this team is how they won 2 games, not how they lost X games.
Thad Matta's streak of 20+ win seasons just went from in jeopardy to on life support.  If OSU can't win the next two at home, there is no way they get to 20.

Thomas's picture

The "matta done did it again" video being posted on this thread kind of stings. 
 
edit: nevermind its gone. 

Urban Ohio's picture

Time to reach down and see if you have a pair of buckeyes , Boys.

Newcomerstown Trojans between Woody and Beaver.

Doc's picture

The team is in a free fall, and it don't see any end in sight. It's gut check time for these guys. It saddens me to see Craft go out like this. 

"Say my name."

jbirmmd's picture

Indeed, this is a sad way for his career to end at OSU. 

I feel very strongly that this slide will continue unless a major roster shake up occurs.  I think Smith needs to be benched, as does Amir Williams.  They do nothing good.  Not sure how to do without LaQ but he is almost as bad, even when he scores he plays questionable defense and has very inopportune turnovers. 

There is really nothing good to look at. 

jamesrbrown322's picture

I love that everyone feels bad for Craft, but no one blames him. He is the PG and a Senior, and is a liability on offense. Don't get me wrong, he's easy to admire, but he's basically Steve Wojciechowski.
The big problem with this team is that they do not have anyone who is willing to put the team on their back and be determined NOT to let the team lose. All of the successful OSU teams had a player or players like that. Jim Jackson, Redd/Penn, Dials, Lewis/Conley/Oden, Turner, Lighty, and Sully were just like that. They were leaders at both ends of the floor, and were bound and determined to be successful. I don't see anyone like that on this year's team.
Of everyone on the rost, I am so disappointed with Amir's career to this point. Maybe it will still click, but he probably is what he is at this point. Honestly, I am not sure that much will change the rest of the season for OSU if Amir doesn't play better and Scott and Craft stop turning it over so much.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

tennbuckeye19's picture

Doug Lesmerises from the Plain Dealer just tweeted that this is probably the worst loss that OSU has had since Thad Matta's been in Columbus. I have to agree with him. Sad. Just sad. 

gm3jones's picture

It really is only because it was so awful to watch. They have lost complete composure it seems. They made runs for a few minutes, but then went to hibernation. It is baffling to see what this team has become past few games.

There is nothing more remarkable as learning to think better.

Doc's picture

Short and to the point Kyle. What is understood doesn't need to be discussed.

"Say my name."

lax20's picture

You can call me a troll all you want, but Matta cannot coach worth a $hit.  He's one helluva a recruiter, but this team BLOWS BIG TIME.  Sullinger left because he was not growing at Ohio State.  Just look at Amir Williams and Trey McDonald, CLUELESS!  NIT is going to be a push for this team.

tennbuckeye19's picture

No doubt that some of the blame falls at Matta's feet, it's his team, but to say he cannot coach worth a $hit is just plain stupid. 

lax20's picture

You can win with talent as they have been.  Look at Calipari's teams.  They win with talent.  His players are one and done.  Look at Matta's talent:Conley, Oden,Turner,Diebler,Buford,Sullinger,Thomas,Cook and maybe a couple of others.  They came to Ohio State as men.  This team needs some serious coaching and Matta does not have it.

gwalther's picture

Lol. Matta's teams and players generally all show growth as the season and their careers progress. Matta can't coach? Look at his tournament record. Look at how Evan Turner, William Buford, and Deshaun Thomas grew and improved as players over time. Look at how his teams get stronger entering March.
2007 - Title Game
2010 - Sweet 16
2011 - Sweet 16
2012 - Final Four
2013 - Elite 8
 

Class of 2008

jaxbuckeye's picture

Why is it stupid?  99 out of 100 games he starts off with the advantage of better players.  Look at their exits from the tournament.  Pretty much every one that i can remember, the Bucks had the better team.  Yet, they still lost.  Who does THAT fall on?  The players?

johnblairgobucks's picture

Look at their exits from the tournament.  Pretty much every one that i can remember, the Bucks had the better team.  Yet, they still lost.

Bucks had the better team?  Says who... and based on what? 
The 2006 team wasn't better than Florida. 
The 2007 team won the NIT
2008  they were a 10 loss team that lost in the 1st round  to Siena in 2OT
2009 lost in Sweet 16 to Tennessee
2010 lost in Sweet 16 to Kentucky
blah blah blah. 
Ohio State has had some very good teams, they haven't had National Championship teams, and let's not pretend guys like Bufford, Diebler, Thomas, Lewis, Dials..... etc were sure fire NBA 1st round picks who made a roster like the Harlem Globetrotters.  Ohio State has had some fine players......great players to root for, but aside from some 1st and 2nd year players that have exited before their prime to the NBA, OSU's rosters is more likely to be frequented with overseas professional players than NBA stahlworts.
OSU's Tournament exits have been from poor shooting nights than from bad coaching approach.  But we could argue this to no end.
 

jaxbuckeye's picture

I would argue that they WERE better than the Florida team; at worst just as good.  Doesn't matter how many games they lost they should NEVER lose to Sienna.  They were definitely a better team than both Tennessee and Kentucky.  Funny how you conveniently forgot last year too.  Were they not the better team?  Exactly how many of the teams that knocked them out went on to win the NC?  Yeah, that's what I thought.
Blah, blah all you want but the fact is they have consistently been knocked out by inferior teams. 

johnblairgobucks's picture

I see you are taking "the glass half empty" approach to any non title season. .the team you have a rooting interest in has only given you joy once in the past 40years, in mens basketball and football then?

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

There are 68 teams in the NCAA tournament.  The champion plays 6 of those teams.  So, 61 teams lost to teams that didn't win the tournament.  So all 61 of those teams are terrible?
If you make it to the sweet 16, all of the remaining teams have a chance to beat any of the other teams on any given night.  Losing at that point does not mean your season was a failure.  Instead, you put a pennant up at your home gym because it is an achievement.

NitroBuck's picture

You get a C'Mon, Man! for that comment, Jax.  Yes the Thad 5 team was very talented, but so was Florida.  Of that group of Buckeyes, only Conley has had a strong NBA career.  Noah, Horford and Brewer have each had strong NBA careers since their days at Florida.  On top of that, that Gators squad had an abundance of experience, having won it all the year before.  Certainly far more experience than our Buckeyes did.  A lot of years, I think that Buckeyes squad would have been National Champions.  It was just their bad luck to have to face the only repeat NCAA Championship team in God knows how long.

Ferio, tego

jbirmmd's picture

Matta has brought this program from absolute nothingness to elite status.  Sure, we haven't taken that ultimate next step, and I have had some quibbles as well but it is very much hyperbole to call him out like that. 
 

Bucks's picture

After reading your comment history, hard for me to imagine you being viewed any other way.

theobi's picture

Crazy that we can go from being a projected #1 seed in the tournament to the NIT in under two weeks.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I think "signature wins" usually come against teams that are, uh, good.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

ibuck's picture

Seems like they're too tight to play.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

Deadly Nuts's picture

Looking at the rest of the schedule....
v. ILL = Win
v. PSU = Win
@. WIS = Loss
@. IOWA = Loss
v. PUR = Win
v. MICH = Win
@. ILL = Loss
v. NW = Win
v. MINN = Win
@. PSU = Win
@ IND = Win
v. MSU = Win
24-7(11-7)
A B1G tourney bye is a stretch and we are looking at a 6 or 7 seed come March. Weird thing is that I think this regular season will end with a better record than last years due to the shitty non conference schedule. This team has all the potential in the world and we may be given the "Bracket Buster" title.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

jbirmmd's picture

You are very optimistic.  Unless something clicks that hasn't been, I don't know how this team goes .500.  
 
I don't see any wins against: MSU, Mich, Minn or Purdue.
 
NIT

Deadly Nuts's picture

I don't see any wins against: MSU, Mich, Minn or Purdue.

Well....
We went to OT vs. MSU on the road and I think we could handle them at home. We are on the same level as ttun and that is a home game. Minnesota is a team we can beat and should at home. We already beat Purdue on the road, why not at home? HOME, HOME, HOME! MUST WIN HOME GAMES!

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

thePhilipJFry's picture

We are not on the same level as Michigan.  Michigan scores over 1.2 points per possession.  Ohio State only got there once this season, and that was when Amedeo Della Valle scored 15 points on 6 possessions versus Nebraska in Columbus.  Other than that game (and really 6 possession stretch) OSU has been below a point per possession.

Jack Fu's picture

We went to OT vs. MSU on the road and I think we could handle them at home. We are on the same level as ttun and that is a home game.

You are flat-out wrong about both of those. Wins are theoretically possible but we're underdogs in both.
 

jbirmmd's picture

That OT game was all of about 7-8 min of good play, and was also an eternity ago for this team. 

We have gone in completely different directions. 

theobi's picture

You're predicting wins against MSU, Michigan, and at Indiana? I really hope you're right but right now that looks way too optimistic. Even beating Minnesota might be a stretch, they just throttled us

JozyMozy's picture

I don't even...what in the world am I looking at here? Did I miss some sarcasm?
Just curious as to what leads you to think that this particular team, currently in a freefall, would be able to right the ship and not only rebound, but make a run?

Mute's picture

I want whatever you're smoking that makes you think they can beat Minnesota, Michigan, or Michigan State
or even Indiana

Deadly Nuts's picture

I watched the MSU and Minnesota games and we can beat them. Especially at home. For Indiana, well they aren't that good either.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

Jim's picture

You are putting MSU and MICH in the win columns?  Maybe you need to start watching some other games.   Izzo and Beilein, in cased you haven't noticed, can coach.
The way OSU is playing, nothing is a given.

Deadly Nuts's picture

Nothing isn't a given.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

Deadly Nuts's picture

These are only my predictions if we win the next two games. If we don't then we can call this season the Top Thrill Dragster. All the way to the top then all the way back down.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

thePhilipJFry's picture

I will take Michigan in Columbus.
I will take Indiana in Bloomington.
I will take MSU in Columbus.
20 wins this season would be a shock to me at this point, those are just the 3 games I feel are definitely in the L column. 

jamesrbrown322's picture

I am not so sure that they can beat scUM, Indiana, and Purdue (again). They will beat PSU (2x), split with Ill, and beat NW, probably. That's 19 wins (zero good wins). I figure Wisc, Iowa, Minnesota, and MSU are losses. That's 19-8 with swing games against scUM, Indiana, and Prudue. If they take two out of those three, they're probably safe.
With their nonconference schedule, OSU has probably got to get to 23 wins overall to make the field, and avoid any more bad losses - PSU, Illinois, or NW. If they can pull off a shock or two vs. Wisc, Iowa, or MSU, they'll feel pretty good on selection Sunday.
I am just sad that this is even a discussion. The good news is that college basketballs biggest strength, NCAA Tourney, also results in it's biggest weakness - a MEANINGLESS regular season.
 

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

d5k's picture

The defense is still good enough that there will be a game or 2 where they force 20 turnovers and get offense in transition.

Seattle Linga's picture

Desperate times call for desperate measures - Burn Kam's red-shirt

benlight01's picture

Maybe this team just isn't that good, even though on paper the players are all very talented. They routinely miss lay-ups and barely hit 2/3 of their free throws.  The vaunted defense disappears for large stretches in games.  And, I hate to say it, Craft is becoming a liability, especially on offense.  He had four turnovers to two steals tonight and was 2/5 shooting.  And refs aren't calling fouls on his patented flailing, out-of-control, free-throw bait lay-up attempts anymore, but he keeps on trying.  I hope Matta figures out how to fix things soon, or it's going to be a forgotten season very soon.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Just remember, it's not Matta's fault.

1big10's picture

I would up vote this if I knew how:)

1big10

Seattle Linga's picture

Once you hit 100 helmet stickers you can upvote. I upvoted you to help you get there just a little quicker 

chirobuck's picture

Matta has had his critics out there as far as his x's and o's and being just a recruiter.....here's his chance to show he can coach a talented team through a slump

 
^ best post ever ^

Jack Fu's picture

Talented? Really?

BassDropper's picture

Michigan State broke the Ohio State program.

DIRECTIONER

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Pretty much.  That and the series of mid week away games that are either in another time zone or at 9pm (or both) that we've had to deal with...  Still no excuse to lose to Iowa at home, or at Nebraska, though.

RedQueenRace's picture

So, will Matta get his 20 wins this year?
They start to pull it together, miss a few shots and then it seems the wheels come off everything.
After the last 3 games and the Huskers first half layup practice it wasn't even frustrating any more, not even when it looked promising and they faded late.

BuckWylde's picture

If he can't win 20 after 13 cupcakes maybe folks 'round here will start a coaching search soon (I hope).
 

BuckWylde

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

Something is very very wrong. We have won with under performing offenses before... It needs to be exorcized and exorcized quickly. It's borderline atrocious at this point.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeye Chuck's picture

They've almost always had the one special talent before (at least one) that could pull them through tough spots. The last time they didn't have a player like that, Turner was only a freshman and they made the NIT. That's what we're looking at again, apparently.
 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

chirobuck's picture

I didn't see the game tonight but to the people who have, is Marta going with that lineup still with Scott running the point and craft at the 2? If he is that would be one of things I would stop...your putting a non shooting craft at the 2 and take the ball out of his hands as a facilitator and I'm not really sure where he fits in on offense......the whole thing is just hard to watch

 
^ best post ever ^

buckeyeboy31's picture

make them walk home

BME_Buckeye's picture

But they won't be in class by tomorrow....

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

AltaBuck's picture

Perfect ending to a shitty day at work. WTF is wrong with this team?

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

FLAMikey's picture

The answer to your question starts with "no viable big"....

Deadly Nuts's picture

If Scott would have made that layup at the end of the MSU game we would be undefeated right now. These next two games are key.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

thePhilipJFry's picture

No. 
No, no, no, no, no.
Iowa is much better at basketball, and Minnesota would have needed to commit 40 turnovers to keep us in that game given their offensive rebounding and two point shooting percentage.  Nebraska probably still would have made all those lay-ups tonight.  Ohio State loses basketball games because they are bad at basketball. 
The only thing this team is good at on the basketball court is forcing turnovers, this team is for better or for worse . . . Aaron Craft.

Jack Fu's picture

If Scott would have made that layup at the end of the MSU game we would be undefeated right now.

Horseshit.

headina's picture

The lack of a post presence the past two years has been a huge disadvantage in my opinion. It doesn't need to be a dominant player like a sully or Greg Oden. Just a serviceable othello hunter, Dallas lauderdale, Evan ravenell type player that can give good minutes, rebound, play D, CATCH THE BALL, and get a few put backs a game. I like Williams and McDonald, but man are they both a liability on both ends. I feel like we have been conditioned by them turning it over/ getting burned on D, so that when they make a play on either end such as a blocked shot or put back, we give them credit for doing what they should be EXPECTED TO DO EVERY GAME.  /end rant. Just one of many issues on this years squad. 
That being said, Go Bucks. 

GO BUCKS

thatlillefty's picture

Our bigs play weak. Amir needs to grow a pair.

buckeyestu's picture

I said last week this team will be lucky to win 6 or 7 league games, i have my doubts they win that many now. This season is toast, it is gone.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Buckeyes get exposed in big ten play following that weak OOC schedule. Stop me if you've heard this before. At this rate we will be in the CIT. This has to be the worst team Matta has coached.

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

thatlillefty's picture

Caveat: I didn't see the game tonight (somehow, too many DC bars still don't subscribe to BTN), but wtf is going on? If there was ever a time to panic, then the hour is at hand.
Maybe Thad still has some cards up his sleeve but thus far, I'm disappointed in this squad. You know the leadership is there with upperclassmen like Craft, Zelle, Scott & Thompson (execution is another story). So what's going on? Is the rest of the team just not buying in???
Again, I didn't see the game so I may be completely off here... but I've grown frustrated with Q and Amir. Neither seem to play with passion, and both play SOFT and moody. No place on this squad for that attitude.
I really hope Thad shakes things up moving forward, or we're a second round knock out, come March. And that sucks considering the talent on this roster.

FLAMikey's picture

No big who isn't a tree sloth.
Those who can play defense can't score. Those who can score can't/won't play defense.
No problems other than that.

RedQueenRace's picture

Those who can score can't/won't play defense.

 
Those who can score are also turnover-prone.  I caught myself holding my breath several times when Q made moves into the lane while dribbling.  It often looks like he is about to take a trip and leave the ball behind.

BuckeyeDynasty's picture

We lost to a 8-8 team that we just beat by 30pts two weeks ago, and who is 0-4 in conference play, disgusting. I will continue to support the team, but i must admit its hard to cheer for a group that seems they have suddenly forgot how to play the game of basketball, showing very little composure or heart, this was a Man-Up game, we have infinitely more talent then the Basketball Cornhuskers, but they had more heart, and simply wanted it more. They got stomped by us two weks ago, but this Ohio State team is not the same team they played back on the 4th. This version of the buckeyes has been mentally broken

Buckeye2005's picture

I think we are a very spoiled fan base.  Losing four games in a row sucks, no matter how you cut it.  However, this team has the ability to play very well.  I saw that in the game versus Michigan State.  What matters is how they respond to this losing streak and come tournament time, they may have learned a lot about each other and gel at exactly the right time.  
As always, Go Bucks!  

1big10's picture

Yes!! GO BUCKS!!! 

1big10

thatlillefty's picture

So tired of this spoiled fan base talk... so what we're spoiled. Should we not be upset when we shit the bed against an obviously inferior opponent?
Our expectations aside, this team is better than how they're playing.
Lesssssssssgo bucks! Step it up. This fan believes in yall.

jamesrbrown322's picture

You know why we're spoiled?
$118.1 mil, $128.4 mil, and $126.5 mil. Those are the operating budgets for a state university. Matta, Meyer, and the like are state employees, like it or not.
To me complaining about the overall product on the court/field is no different than being upset with any other government operation. As much as attending a game costs nowadays, I think venting and being disappointed that OSU is losing is perfectly acceptable. There is no reason, given their budget, facilities, and recent success, OSU should not be able to beat a team like Nebraska. I really didn't mind the other losses so much. They were disappointing sure, but understandable (1 final four, 2 sweet sixteen contenders, and 3 NCAA teams, 2 on the road). This loss totally took the heart out of me.
Until they prove they can beat someone good, I am selling this team. I believe they can turn it around, but I want to see it. The Illinois game on Thursday is gonna be make or break for the season. If they lose this one, it could be a tailspin. They are in desperate need of some confidence, and here's hoping that the Seniors and Ross can pick up the team and provide that confidence.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

RedQueenRace's picture

I hope you're right but it looks like playing zone and attacking the interior works and the pieces aren't there to do much about it.  I don't blame Matta for that with all the early departures.    Also he has been in the mix battling for top talent that could have made the difference but lost to the blue bloods.  Can't fault him for that either as in years past OSU wouldn't have even registered on the radar of many of these players.  It's hard to not suffer a down year, even for the elite programs.  This just may be one for OSU.  I think the future looks promising and they might suddenly click or find something that works but if it doesn't happen it isn't the end of the world.  I had a bad dream once about the football team going 6-7 but I woke up and everything was nowhere near as bad as I thought..

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Also he has been in the mix battling for top talent that could have made the difference but lost to the blue bloods.

I don't mind losing out to the likes of Kentucky on the future one-and-dones. No one gets everyone they want there, even Kentucky. It's the useful players we didn't properly identify at the high school level and thus never gave the time of day to, some of them Ohio-based, that bothers me more. 
It's either a player development issue, or the players have reached their potential and the staff simply overrated them at the time of their recruitment.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Jack Fu's picture

How are we spoiled when we point out that the team plays like shit? If we acted like it's our birthright that the team be awesome, then maybe. But just pointing out that we're playing shitty when we play shitty? That's not spoiled. That's realistic.

BuckeyeCrew's picture

Some of the complainers, who seem to validate their lives by criticizing coaches and players, also act entitled and give off the aire of being intelligent.  For me, one adjective that may be used to describe such people, is "spoiled". What do you think, Jack? 

lakejamesbuck's picture

I can't believe so many have turned on Thad...short fricking memories!!! He will get this figured out and get the Bucks in the tournament. Even if he does not get it done this year I would still not trade him for anyone. Craft gives every ounce of energy he has...and yet some of the "fans" turn on him. The guy has to be running out of gas trying to carry this team!!!

jaxbuckeye's picture

I wouldn't say that people are turning on him, more like seeing the light.  Matta built and coaches this team.  If not him, WHO should take the blame?  You take the losses with the wins.  My guess is that 99.99% of the people on this site like Matta and take no pleasure in the losses.  But, he needs to take ownership.  He's done incredible things for the program and I wouldn't trade him for anyone in college basketball.  BUT, that doesn't change the fact that these losses fall on him.  An unmotivated team falls on him.  A terrible lineup falls on him.  Not putting players in a position to play to their strengths falls on him.  People are saying that he can't make shots for the players.  True.  But it is HE that controls their minutes.  Ross doesn't hustle?  Bench him.  Players chucking up 3?  Bench them.  Do SOMETHING!

lakejamesbuck's picture

I can't argue with your points and very much agree with certain guys hitting the pine. But let's at least give him a little more time...I am pretty sure he has earned that.

jaxbuckeye's picture

I agree.  Not panicking.  Still a long way to go.  If we're all being honest, we knew coming into the season that this was a seriously flawed team.  They won so many games that we got a false sense of how good they were or were not.  I know it's hard for some fans but this may be that "rebuilding" year.  I'm sure there are plenty of fanbases that would accept a crappy year every 6 or 7 years in exchanged for a bunch of sweet 16s. 
The only thing I would say is that it's troubling that the team seems to consistently lose to inferior teams in the tournament.  Not sure why.  I suppose if I did know, I'd be coaching material.  Just wish Matta could get that first NC.

thatlillefty's picture

This times 1,000! I love Thad. But things need to be corrected. I still have faith he's up to the task.

RedQueenRace's picture

I don't recall any real "chucking" of 3s.  I thought LSJ had good looks.  He has always been streaky but is obviously in a nightmare of a slump where virtually nothing is falling for him. ADV had some good looks that didn't fall as well and some nice moves to the paint but just didn't finish.  But overall, they aren't going to be able to work the interior when they can be left open for a jumper with little fear they will hit it..

Jack Fu's picture

My guess is that 99.99% of the people on this site like Matta and take no pleasure in the losses.  But, he needs to take ownership.  He's done incredible things for the program and I wouldn't trade him for anyone in college basketball.  BUT, that doesn't change the fact that these losses fall on him.

Okay, but then all of the wins, all of the essentially unprecedented success "falls on him" too.

thePhilipJFry's picture

Completely agree on how great Thad has been for this program.  Hopefully he uses this as a learning situation.  He may not love offense first type players like Walter Offut, Jordan Sibert and JD Weatherspoon.  But it's easier to teach someone with offensive skills to play defense than to teach good defenders offensive skills.

lakejamesbuck's picture

I know the media likes to make a big deal out of Witherspoon and Sibert being leading scorers for their respective teams... they likely would not be big scorers playing in the BIG. I personally hope to see Loving get more minutes as he seems to be a good offensive player. Thad will get it done!!!

CarolinaBuck's picture

If Nebraska is going to storm the court, then they have to do better than 1/5 coverage. Pretty weak on their part.

Deadly Nuts's picture

And against a team that hasn't lost four straight games.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

Youngbuck85's picture

#womenshockeyschool

IBleedSandG's picture

#Yeesh
Gotta get these next two at the Schott. I'm pretty much at a loss for words.

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

otrain2416's picture

Its amazing this is the first year that we don't have that "super star" five star NBA caliber player we can rely on. Hate to say it cuz I love him as a coach but Matta is getting exposed. 

lakejamesbuck's picture

Damn...this is just amazing, I must be missing something. This is the first four game losing streak in what four or five years. Teams go into slumps, I think these guys will figure it out. Man I hope I am right for once in my life!!!! Go bucks!!!!

Knarcisi's picture

Fuck January 2014!

Poison nuts's picture

Ditto.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Buckifan4Life's picture

Yeah, unfortunately they are who we thought they were. Without a player who can create his own shot and hit consistently from the outside, the offense was going to struggle. Amir Williams seems to have gotten a little better, but he is not the force inside that we thought he would be when recruited. I could go on and on, but I think we all know where this is headed. I hope they can find some scoring in order to turn this around. I'm not going to hold my breathe though.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

dbit's picture

Maybe I'm optimistic to a fault, but I'm not buying it. 
 
Seems like Thad's team has gone into a slump, just like this one, around this time every year. Recall last year where we couldn't score for shits and giggles until our defense suddenly went on an absolute tear.  

OhioKris's picture

i'm sorry my friend but this team seems to be crap. 
they started off playing no one, and beat no one. 
then they started played some decent teams and lost everything they thought they were. Some where in that OT verse MSU they realize they can't do it and gave up. For a team that's supposed to be all heart, they have none. and its too sad to watch anymore. 
that's the only way to explain losing to Nebraska after beating the shit out of them by 30 two weeks ago is, either the team no longer "believes" they are good enough or they "know" they aren't good enough. They packed it in and are just going thru the motions. We'll be lucky if they some how find their confidence again, but i doubt it. And by then, it'll be too late to get to the dance anyway. NIT might be where this sad sad team ends a terribly disappointing year. 

jbirmmd's picture

Belief has a ton to do with sports.  It is obvious to even rudimentary observation, that this team has lost ALL confidence and belief in themselves.  That is why I think a major line up shift is in order.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

This slump is both qualitatively and quantitatively different. We haven't lost to a conference team as bad as Nebraska -- really ANY team as bad as Nebraska -- in many years. And Kyle's story says we haven't lost 4 in a row in six seasons. 
The other problem is that we don't have the "young team" excuse. Loving is the only guy on the team who likely has real improvement ahead of him. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

HattanBuck85's picture

Just can't shoot the ball. 

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." - Woody Hayes

OhioKris's picture

If this team isn't even going to try, i'm not going to watch.
Fuck it, Lets go Jackets!!!!

ITWASME's picture

Is it an option to take all of our recruits now instead of next year?

buckeyestu's picture

I hope the buckeyes can turn this thing around. Tonight i had to turn this game off in the first half, i just could not take it anymore. My local high school does not play this badly. Football season can not get here fast enough.

GoBucksOSU's picture

That's it. It surely is time to Fire Fickell.

Sportpaco's picture

I don't care what it costs, heck I'll pitch in, just bring back Chris Jent.
 

mr.green's picture

The highs in sports -- and life --  only come because you experience the lows. This team is off on everything right now -- free throws, passing, rebounding, three-point shots, etc. But the season is not over and we will bounce back. We'll have a game when everything is clicking and we can't be beat. When do you want that: now or in March? Basketball is a  sport of streaks.  On the court and -- sometimes -- in the loss column. Our losing streak will end. You want to be there to see where this ends, or do you want to turn it off in the first half? 
Time and change. 

BeijingBucks's picture

feels good to be a spoiled Buckeye fan... win or lose... prefer to win... but just feel the excitement?  will they pull it together? will they even make the ncaa's... will they even make the NITs?  will they ever win again?!
we've gotten spoiled.  enjoy it

DenBuck's picture

We've had incredible success the last 8-9-10 years. We are spoiled. Glad to see Williams hit the bench the 2nd half. He's awful. Cringed every time Smith threw up a 3 pointer. We're just not a great team this year. It happens. We've had some recruiting misses that hurt...Williams, Trey, Scott in some respects, Amadeo, I'm hoping Kam Williams is decent. We just seem stale on the court.

Buckeye For Life

jamesrbrown322's picture

I will says this re: all of the "spoiled" comments. I only buy into the "spoiled" argument when a team was good for a handful of seasons, after very little success for an extended period of time and loses sight of who they actually are - like Ole Miss football.
With OSU, it is not as though the fan base is spoiled because they have been going to a ton of Final Fours, and actually playing for, and/or winning titles. OSU has been to 2 Final Fours in the last decade, and played in one championship game. To me, with the talent that OSU has had, that is a bit disappointing. I am not saying it's Matta's fault, as I am not a believer in this argument, however it is very very disappointing.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

d5k's picture

Math is hard.  The tournament is not magical where the best team waltzes through and the pretenders get tossed aside.  There are a lot of things that have to go right to make a final four.

BucksFan2000's picture

The hardest thing to watch - and comprehend - right now is that the team generally just doesn't seem to care.
I'm not going to say they aren't trying, but when they were playing well it's like they knew they didn't have the one great player who could bail them out, so everyone was busting their butts.  Now it's a lot of going-through-the-motions.  Very difficult to watch.
So we'll see.  Either pride kicks in or it doesn't.
 

PhillyBuckeye27's picture

I hope next years class can shoot.  Sure would be nice to also finish a season in the 85% on free throws....Matta's teams always seem to fail in that annually....
Williams being benched was hopefully a wakeup for Captain Cupcake.....as for LSJ, I still can't believe that guy plays at Ohio State let alone starts....100+ games and he has had about a dozen that he actually looked D1 caliber. 
One thing is certain, the way this team is playing, IF we make the tourney it will be a 10 or 11 seed and it won't last very long.  This team is simply not good.  Lets hope 2014 improves quick cause so far it's been tough to be a Buckeye.....

kareemabduljacobb's picture

Embarrassing.  We need to get Chris Jent back to work with these kids!

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I'm so glad that I was in Dayton at RAW last night and didn't have to watch this shit show. 
Losing at MSU, with the way it went down, I was as OK with it as I could be for a loss, though I wish the refs would have the balls to whistle fouls in the final seconds...seriously, the rules of the game still apply at that point.  Losing to Iowa at home...yeah, they're good, but it sucks to lose at home and lose two in a row.  Losing at Minnesota is weak.  Losing at Nebraska - flat out pathetic. 
What the hell is going on?  I saw this team start out 15-0 and the way they were playing (which included a dismantling of Nebraska not even 3 weeks ago).  I know they're capable of being much better than this 4 game slide has shown.  And there's still time to turn it around, but it needs to begin now.  No excuses for this with the veterans on this team who have been key parts of the last two teams that went to the Elite 8 or further.   
And that visual you see of Nebraska storming the court after beating us?  The way things are going right now, that might be the last time that fans of a crappy opponent storm the court after beating us. 

Class of 2010.