As Saban's Extension Goes Unsigned, Alabama Officials Grow More Nervous

December 11, 2013 at 11:21a    by DJ Byrnes    
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IT'S ALL HAPPENING

From ESPN:

Alabama coach Nick Saban has had a contract extension on his desk since Friday, and the longer it goes unsigned, the more uncomfortable Alabama officials grow, sources said.

However, another source told ESPN's Brett McMurphy that if Saban leaves Alabama, it "won't be because of money" and that the coach and the school are "always in discussions" about extending the deal each year.

In March, Saban received a raise and contract extension worth $5.62 million a year. At the time, he said it represented his intention to finish his career in Tuscaloosa.

Innnnteresting. Since Alabama just extended Saban in March, they obviously see the threat of Saban leaving for Austin to be very real indeed. (Twitter rumors spotted the new extension at $7 million/year.) It's that, or they just want to ensure Nick Saban is coaching Alabama until the day he dies.

Kirk Herbstreit, who has always had his hand on the pulse of the nation's coaching beat, says there's "no chance" Saban coaches Texas next year.


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AndyVance's picture

Saban says:

...and Tide fans say:

Danify's picture


What I'm like at the moment.

TresselourgodUrbanoursavior's picture

I don't really see this as a good thing for OSU. It inevitably hurts the team's ability to recruit in Texas, while not much improving the team's ability to recruit in the South.

FormerBuck's picture

Both true, but it also will weaken the SEC, and more importantly, the perception of the dominance of the SEC.

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Saban often offering the same folks as we are right now across the country.  We pull ONLY a couple of kids out of Texas as is, I don't see a move effecting our Texas targets too much anyhow because of the shear number of kids in that state.  We might go head to head on a few in Texas but I think because of the large numbers in Texas, we may see Nicky dial it back on a macro level across the south, which opens up less battles with Saban overall.  This is all if this move happens.
And I also want to say, regardless of where Saban goes...he'll get his and we'll get ours.  There are plenty of fish in the sea.

Alice in Aggieland's picture

I don't really see this as a good thing for OSU. It inevitably hurts the team's ability to recruit in Texas, while not much improving the team's ability to recruit in the South.

Saban landing at UT would be a great thing for Ohio State - and the rest of the AQ conferences - because it hurts AT LEAST top three SEC teams in pretty substantial ways. It hurts 'Bama for obvious reasons. It hurts Texas A&M and Sumlin's ability to gobble up all the quality players from Texas. It hurts LSU's regional recruiting.
I'll take a dented and damaged SEC in exchange for Saban's rebuilding project at Texas.

TresselourgodUrbanoursavior's picture

Former, Chief, and Alice. These are all good points.  It would be nice to see "SEC Fans" shit their pants (as they will when Florida State beats Auburn).  I just think about impact guys like Dontre and Meechy (presumably) and fear losing them to Satan. At the end of the day though, a couple players a class aren't make or break.

TilstheHun3's picture

Unless they are Carlos Hyde...

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

Catch 5's picture

They've renewed Saban's contract every year since he's been there - and Saban is out of town recruiting.  The reports are that he has reached an agreement on the contract, but things never go that fast.  Enter lawyers and agents reviewing and this is nothing out of the ordinary.  Coaches often take months to sign a contract that has been agreed to all the time.
The recent reports are certainly pointing at him going there but I'm not buying it.  Surely Texas hasn't reached a deal before even firing Brown.  Sure Saban left Miami after saying he wasn't going to, but he made that quote because he was still in the season.  He didn't consider the Bama job until the Dolphin's season was over.  He also says he regrets the way that went down so I don't see him repeating that error.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

Oyster's picture

Denial, one of the Seven Defense Mechanisms.

May you R.I.P. Otsego, but know this. Gaylord Rocks!

buckguy10's picture

I may be wrong here but didn't he leave with a few games left in the Dolphins season to go to Bama? Or was that Petrino?

InvertMyVeer's picture

Saban went 6-10 his last season at Miami.

Football is complicated...

bigbadbuck's picture

Petrino left Atlanta I believe

NoVA Buckeye's picture

Petrino was the one that left during the season, but it was with the Falcons, not the Fish

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

stittracer99's picture

Surely Texas hasn't reached a deal before even firing Brown.

 
Actually I think this would be the only way that they would fire Brown. A school like Texas, during the prime recruiting weeks that we are currently in, can't afford to go any amount of time without a head coach.

Bolt's picture

Alabama: devoid of "hand"

Bolt's picture

And I don't mean Da'Shawn

Doc's picture

"They've got no hand, Jerry!"

"Say my name."

buckskin's picture

I think he goes to UT.  He is a nomadic type of coach:  4 years at msu, 5 years at LSU, 2 years with Miami, and now 7 years with Bama.  Texas is a great program that basically recruits itself, and like Meyer, with his name power, he could go anywhere and get players.   He has an incredible ego and at this point in his career he has to be thinking about his legacy;  the UT job would give him the opportunity to win a National Championship at 3 different schools at the D-1 level.  I'm not sure if that's ever been done. 

droessl's picture

Just look at how much joy that crystal ball brings him. It's like when I get flat beer or an overcooked steak.

southbay's picture

Say what you will about Herbie, he just might have some pretty good insight here.

BuckGnome's picture

Yes, because Les Miles is coaching TTUN.

misterpants's picture

Don't mock Herbie. He also broke the story of Jim Harbaugh's hiring at Michigan.

Maestro's picture

I don't expect him to leave.  Felt obligated to put an opinion out there as a member of this great community since I might be the last one to do so.
If it does I certainly won't be excited.

vacuuming sucks

kalabuckzoo's picture

If he's going to coach in the state of texas why not take over the Cowboys or Texans.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I suspect this is all about leverage. Aside from the fact that almost everyone would rather live in Austin than in Alabama, why leave? Bama will pay him what he wants, and even though the Big 12 is an easier neighborhood than the SEC, it's not like he's actually going to be able to win more often.
Plus he's 62, which seems on the older side for taking a job at an elite program. That's the age Lou Holtz was when he went to South Carolina, but the mission there was just to make the program relevant, not to win national titles, which is what they expect at UT.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Maestro's picture

No state income tax?
Don't even know if Alabama has it, but I do know that Texas doesn't.  It's pretty fringe, but it does exist as a possible consideration.

vacuuming sucks

RBuck's picture

Heard on the Fan that Alabama's tax is 5%.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Hovenaut's picture

This all sounds super.
Looks good, too:

vitaminB's picture

No way saban is that many hands tall, has to be a fake.

sbentz4's picture

Just heard a writer from the Austin American-Statesman say on NBCsN that this contract extension may be a smoke screen.  Maybe Saban's agent is using this "extension" as leverage for more money from Texas.   I don't necessarily believe this, but thought it was an interesting perspective.

jedkat's picture

“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren

German Buckeye's picture

Jim Tressel taking over at Texas...wut??

Earle's picture

Italics are for emphasis.

aphill89's picture

Now that would be a "hot sports take"

"The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes 

TilstheHun3's picture

There's no way to know for sure but it seems like the people covering Longhorns football think that Saban to Texas is going to happen. Sure, it is just rumors for all of us now but it seems things are trending that way. Updates from the 11 Staff and any "inside info" they have would be greatly appreciated!

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

Doc's picture

This seems to be the worst kept secret since the Urban to OSU ones started.  Tere seems to be a lot of smoke out there about this, and you know what they say about when there is smoke...

"Say my name."

JLP36's picture

It would be fascinating to see how quickly Saban could build the Longhorns up. 
It would be interesting to watch the reaction in the south land should the SEC would lose their 2 best coaches to other conferences in a short period of time.
Still, I would like to see UFM lead the Buckeyes to the top by taking Saban's Alabama down.  That is the top of the mountain and that peak is likely the only thing that will shut the critics up.

JLP36

Phutatorius's picture

There's a well-managed perception right now that the Southeast is the center of the college football universe.  The fact that Urban left Florida, recovered his health and reoriented his life, and landed at OSU did some work to undermine that perception.  It suggested that Florida wasn't a "destination program" for an elite coach, in the same way that Ohio State is.  But it only suggested that to be true, because Urban didn't outright ditch Florida for OSU.
If Nick Saban leaves what we all agree to be life tenure in Tuscaloosa, at the compensation he's getting, to go to Texas, the shock and bitterness in Alabama will be ten times what it was (still is) in Gainesville.  Not only does the Tide come off its pedestal, not only are the program's short- and long-term prospects placed seriously into question -- this move would strike a seriously blow to the sense of entitlement, privilege, and elite status among Alabama fans and SEC fans more broadly.  Because WE ALL GET TO SAY ALABAMA IS A STEPPING-STONE JOB FOR THE GOOD COACHES.
I can't get past the Schadenfreude to even think about the recruiting and on-field implications for Ohio State.  THIS WOULD BE SO FUN TO WATCH.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Bonus prize: Herbie looks like a fool again for insisting that "there's no chance" Saban will go to Bama:

Nick Saban will work TV sitting next to us on our set before he’ll be the head coach at Texas … He’ll be at Alabama for another five years, and then he’ll be working TV after that … I know Nick Saban better than anybody. It’s not going to happen.

Alice in Aggieland's picture

It’s not going to happen.

Herbie is basically the Regina George of ESPN, so this makes sense.

sbentz4's picture

Why do people think that Nick Saban would be good on TV.  I almost fall asleep every time that he talks.  Well maybe he could get some quality mentorship.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

I know, right? He has about as much charisma as roadkill or a toaster.  Plus his personality is one where it appears as tho he would rather be doing anything else in the world rather than what he is currently doing.  "Lifting the crystal football? F**k this I wish I was weeding my driveway!"

TilstheHun3's picture

Don't know what will happen for sure but I do know that it is 7:55 on 12/11/2013 and a new deal with Alabama is still not done :)
Part of me still thinks this is too good to be true. Then again, crazier things have happened in college football. I never expected Tressel to not be our coach until forever (miss him) and we would get UFM! who would go undefeated in his first two seasons in Columbus, so...

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

I'm pretty sure it's a felony to mention the time and date without throwing in a quick "and Michigan still sucks".  Just a heads up.

TilstheHun3's picture

Bro, you are so right... my bad guys. Let me fix my wicked ways:
It's 8:34 PM on 12/11/2013 and _ichigan still sucks! Muck Fichigan!!!

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Let's just hope the judge shows you mercy for being so proactive.

Catch 5's picture

Here's the kicker. It doesn't matter. Saban has never had a buy out in his contacts so even if he signs it now, he could walk away next week.
I think this is just reaching for straws. Saban at Texas does not make sense.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

avail31678's picture

True, Saban denied this before.
But as the supposed day (Friday) approaches that Mack is allegedly going to step down...have we even heard a peep out of Nick denying this?  If no, interesting....

NoVA Buckeye's picture

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

TilstheHun3's picture

^ no politics allowed!!! I'm just messing :)

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

If only everybody on this website had your opinion.  Granted, I can be quite adamant when talking about the government and how they are NOT your friend, but I never expected the cascading waterfall of downvotes that can so quickly be accrued for voicing your opinion.  It is an egregious and misguided act, to click on a down arrow to show nothing but disapproval for another man's opinions.  I say now, I say, we have to unite!  Different creeds, races, and groups that make up Buckeye Nation must stand strongly together!  Most importantly, we must hate Michigan more than we would hate an ex wife for cheating on us then taking 50% of our money.  More than commercials that have no relation whatsoever to the product which they advertise.  More than a hot girl on birth control who "always uses condoms, like no matter what".  Who needs that much damn protection?  More than getting arrested for possession of weed in TIAJUANA.  Are you kidding me?  And lastly, we must hate Michigan even more than we hate Michigan.  Philosophize that shit, UM students. It's 11:14 PM and Michigan still sucks.

NoVA Buckeye's picture

Just read the last bit on how it's a Saban to Texas conspiracy theory

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

TilstheHun3's picture

It would be pretty funny if W was behind the Saban to Texas deal... oh the crazy things we humans think of.

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Well if Dick Cheney wants it, Georgie Boy does it.  I think Dick just wanted Saban to bring more attention to Texas and by affiliation to Halliburton and Republicanism.  All he would have to do is tie an 8 ball of blow to the end of a stick like a carrot and make George do his bidding.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Right like W wasn't Cheyney's bitch.  Get real dumbass.
edit: talking to the Bush fanboy who downvoted.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Even when a drunk patron heckles me on stage it is nowhere near as mortifying as discovering a downvote next to one of your comments on this website.  This feels like so much more of a personal attack.  A drunk heckler typically just likes to yell shit out, but at least you know who they are and I am able to quickly rebound from it.  But here, this whole anonymous dissaproval system is so personal.
It literally feels like somebody is personally attacking my beliefs.  A down arrow is just so ugly.  Maybe if it was a unicorn or a pair of tits it would be at least ok.  But for now we have to stare at these shameful, apparently vehemently disliked comments made under some influence or other and somehow not take it personally.  What a system.  This would actually be good material if it hadn't been used 10000 times already.
And I refuse to waiver in saying that W was a cokehead or that Erin Andrews is looking through the TV at me personally because she secretely wants to f**k me, not the rest of you guys.  But not everybody is a winner, so try not to take that personal attack on your character or composition as a human personally.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

You know what it's exactly like?  You feel great when you post a comment, then some asshole comes along and downvotes you and you feel such shame.  The analogy here is that my comment is is jerking it and the asshole is post jack off depression.
Don't worry about downvoting I'll just do the honors and get offended with myself for you.  I think I need to reflect on what I have done over a 12 pack of beer, as that is the only truly cool thing about my job

AndyVance's picture

Just an observation between friends, but if I were diagnosing your downvote issue, I'd say it derives from your posting on political topics (discussing GWB doing anything other than writing a letter to an embattled kicker is almost by definition political) when the commenting policy clearly says "NO POLITICS," and for the most part we as a commentariat take that pretty seriously.
Take it for what it's worth, but I'd say if you avoid discussing politics or other things that are on the 11W "no fly list," you'll see far fewer downvotes (also, history has proven that posts complaining about downvotes almost always yield more downvotes).

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Of course you are spot on... I don't try to bring my job into every phase of my life.  It's hard being a young performer trying to make it and actually seeing yourself get somewhere.  You start seeing ideas for bits everywhere and in my line of work substance use is basically encouraged so there are a lot of nights I end with with like 20 downvotes on 11W.
You have to remember you're not always on a stage where people actually give a shit what u think.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

dammit i was doing it again I'm just gonna start following the doctrine of AndyVance.  I'll start with demnding the respect you get then I will fill in the blanks.  2 peas in a pod me and you lol.  But seriously thank you man.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Then once I blow up (downvotesssssss for optimism) I will give you shout outs for fixing my crippling character flaws and that horrible psuedo-sexual/scuba diving addiction that plagued me for years, you know what I'm talking about.
Honestly I think the real problem here is that I'm just weird and opinionated and most people here are normal and shit.
But what should I do I love Ohio State and they don't have a section of this site for people who think the news lies to you and the CIA caused the crack epidemic of the late 80s, etc...

AndyVance's picture

Honestly I think the real problem here is that I'm just weird and opinionated and most people here are normal and shit.

Actually, come to think of it, you're probably at least half right.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Haha whic half?  The part where I say I'm the weirdest sonofabitch on this whole website lol?  Cuz that wouldn't offend me I have come to accept that as truth.  But who knew that when I rant about this stuff in person, not online, people actually care what I have to say.  Who woulda known.
And in all fairness I have school 3 days a week and I work nights twice a week if I'm lucky, maybe one or three times in any given week, so by the time I get on here I'm pretty drunk/exhausted/in a weird mindstate and I'm just not on the same wavelength.  For instance it's 4 45 in the f'in morning over here right now and this is when I had a chance to check out 11W