Florida A&M Notebook: Guiton's Good Fortune Continues

By Kyle Rowland on September 21, 2013 at 5:53p
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10-0-1, and the best.

COLUMBUS – The narrative is growing old. But Ohio State backup quarterback Kenny Guiton just can’t help himself.

Once again, this time in the Buckeyes’ 76-0 win over Florida A&M, Guiton left fans shaking their heads in a record-setting performance. It took him one half to break Bobby Hoying and John Borton’s record of five touchdown passes in a game.

Borton set the record in 1952 with Hoying equaling the mark in 1995.

Guiton had six scoring strikes at halftime, as Ohio State led 55-0. That is not a misprint.

He was a hero last season after he brought the Buckeyes back from an almost certain defeat versus Purdue. He upped the title to folk hero after an impressive outing against San Diego State. But the last two weeks have made Guiton a bona fide star. Incredibly, he is tied with Louisville’s Teddy Bridgewater for the most touchdown passes in the country – 13.

Guiton finished 24-of-34 for 215 yards, six touchdowns and an interception. Even the interception turned into a positive play for Ohio State when the FAMU player fumbled at the three-yard line and the Buckeyes recovered.

“I had all day,” Guiton said. “The coaches wanted to come out throwing the ball around and I thank them for the trust they had in me to be able to do that.”

Guiton has thrown for 664 yards and 13 touchdowns on the season. The party could soon be ending, though. Head coach Urban Meyer made it clear Braxton Miller is still the starting quarterback. Guiton might get snaps, but they’ll be limited.

“I wanted to play him. Braxton felt like he couldn’t go,” said Meyer, after the game. “He tried really hard, had a good week of pushing himself through it. But with good athletes those are tough injuries.”

For the second time in as many weeks, Guiton said he took a majority of the first-team reps in practice. That gave him the impression that he would once again start come Saturday.

“It’s a lot of fun,” Guiton said. “It’s a blessing.”

Ten different receivers had a catch and five hauled in a scoring reception.

“It was good to see Kenny put up the numbers he did,” said junior wide receiver Evan Spencer, who finished with 50 yards receiving and two touchdowns, including the record-setting sixth. “It’s awesome and special to be a part of his record.”

E-Z-E

When Ezekiel Elliott saw Florida A&M on the schedule, he thought it might be an opportunity to play. After a week of practice, he knew he’d be featured in Ohio State’s game plan.

But 162 yards? Two touchdowns?

“We all came to compete,” Elliot said, referencing the Buckeyes’ loaded 2013 recruiting class. “Nothing is unexpected.”

Elliott came to Ohio State with the goal of making an immediate impact. At the U.S. Army All-American game in San Antonio, he stated his goal was to get on the field as a freshman. Four games into the season he’s already been a leading rusher and scored two touchdowns in a half.

“All that hard work you put in over the summer and fall, it feels great to finally get on the field and get some action,” he said. “The O-line did a great job. It’s what we expected.  Every time you get game reps it makes you better.”

Each of his 14 carries came in the second half against a lowly opponent. But it doesn’t change the stats. Elliott ran hard and exhibited the skills that made him such a coveted recruit coming out of Missouri. Prior to Ohio State’s 76-0 win over FAMU, Elliott accumulated 37 yards on seven carries, so it’s not as if he was a one-hit wonder.

But with a backfield that includes Jordan Hall, Carlos Hyde, Rod Smith and Dontre Wilson, is there space for Elliott? Warren Ball is another candidate for playing time, if it’s available, and Bri’onte Dunn is well on his way to a redshirt season. 

“We don’t really redshirt, but there are some guys that could be fine players down the road that I just didn't want to burn a year to get them five or 10 plays,” Meyer said, mentioning Dunn. “That’s the decision we made.

Appearing in three of four games, which Elliott has done, is a good sign for continued playing time.

“You just have to work hard every day and get on special teams to show the coaches you can play,” he said. “We have a great stable of running backs. It’s hard to get a spot and hold your spot. The guy ahead of you is great and the guy behind you is great. Every day we come hard to practice and try to earn our spot.”

Hyde’s return and ensuing performance added another wrinkle to the equation. He finished with 42 total yards and a touchdown on six touches. Hyde also received a warm applause from adoring fans who were happy for his return after serving a three-game suspension.

“We have some weapons and I kind of like where we’re at,” Meyer said. “The best way to think about it is checkers. There are pieces on the board, and I like the checkers we have right now, so it’s just a matter of our staff putting them together.”

Running back controversies pale in comparison to having multiple quarterbacks that could be the starter. Playmakers are desired, as are quarterbacks. But dealing with two quarterbacks who are constantly competing for the head job divides locker rooms and splinters team goals.

Not so for the Buckeyes’ stable of running backs. The group of friends strives to not only get on the field but also improve the overall product. Fractured relationships are nonexistent.

“When we compete we make each other better,” Elliott said. “We’re a very close-knit group, and we work to get better as a team. We all came to Ohio State for a reason and that’s to play.”

In his senior season alone, Elliott scored 50 touchdowns and gained over 3,000 all-purpose yards. Reaching the end zone was such a common sight that he became numb to the feeling of scoring a touchdown. That was not the case on Saturday in front of 103,595 fans, including his entire family.

“It’s a different experience than scoring a touchdown in high school,” Elliott opined. “There’s nothing like scoring a touchdown in the ‘Shoe with everyone up out of their seats screaming.”

The Depths

When something hasn’t happened in 28 years, it’s a clear signal that it’s something major. In the case of the Ohio State Buckeyes, 2013 marked the first time they’ve replaced all four starters on the defensive line since 1985. Then they lost Tommy Schutt before the season even started and Adolphus Washington in the first quarter of the San Diego State game.

Still, the defense has allowed less than 90 rushing yards and accumulated nine quarterback sacks. Rushing yards given up on the season: 73, 64, 132 and 50.

The starters have performed admirably, but something else has also happened – depth was established. Despite four new starters on the line, the thinking was there would be zero drop in production. It was the depth, though, coaches fretted about.

Enter Joey Bosa, a true freshman who’s playing like a veteran, and formerly-400-pound-now-340-pound Chris Carter. Bosa was one of the most coveted recruits last year and he’s quickly shown why. He has 10 tackles and two tackles for loss, but it’s his football savvy that earned him playing time immediately.

Bosa wasn’t an early enrollee like a majority of the 2013 recruiting class. It has meant little, though, considering he came into fall camp and instantly grasped the defensive scheme. He’s been a part of the line rotation since Day 1.

“His development was much faster than I think a lot of people thought it would be,” Vrabel said. “Certainly he’s a much smarter football player as a freshman than I had ever envisioned. Physically, we thought he could come in here and play, play at this level, play at Ohio State, play against the type of opponents that we are going to play against. But it was his mental approach and how quick he picked it up mentally that surprised me.”

Meyer didn’t stop with Bosa when handing out compliments. Someone else was just as responsible – Vrabel. Bosa’s seven tackles and two tackles for loss at Cal earned him defensive player of the game honors from the coaching staff. It was a rare sight, even for Meyer, to see a freshman play 78 plays and be so productive in just his third career game and first start.

“That’s good recruiting and good development by Mike Vrabel,” Meyer said. “He has some depth there. We can play better, but the fact is that you lose Tommy Schutt and you lose Adolphus Washington for a couple games and are still able to keep a rotation going.”

Carter’s journey to playing time has been a three-year process. Legal troubles made him a late signee his freshman year, and then he came to Ohio State weighing more than 400 pounds. A redshirt year followed by a move from offense to defense gave way to 12 games on special teams in 2012.

But a strange thing happened once Meyer and Co. took over the Buckeyes. They gave Carter an ultimatum – drop weight, or else. That “or else” was there won’t be a spot for you at Ohio State. Nutritionist Sarah Wick took over from there and Carter’s weight plummeted to 340 pounds.

He’s played in all four games this season, filling gaps as a run stopper. He’s tallied seven tackles, a sack and a fumble recovery.

“It’s rewarding,” Carter said, “but even more rewarding is knowing I have teammates that will be able to depend on me. They know I’ve been working and have shown I want to be here and make an impact. That will make all of us work harder. It’s a chain.”

Party Like It's 1973

Many consider the 1973 Ohio State team to be the university’s greatest of all-time, even though they didn’t capture the national title. The infamous 10-10 tie against Michigan cost the team an opportunity at immortality. On Saturday, the team reunited and was honored at halftime of the FAMU game.

In a vote by the 10 Big Ten schools, the Buckeyes won out 6-4 and represented the conference in the Rose Bowl. Michigan State cast the deciding vote in Ohio State’s favor. It would wallop USC in the Rose Bowl 42-21 and finish the season 10-0-1.

A series of upsets on New Year’s Day gave the Buckeyes’ hope that they would win the title. But No. 5 Notre Dame’s 24-23 win over No. 1 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl ultimately did them in. Ironically, it was a missed extra point from the Crimson Tide that kept the game from ending in a tie, which more than likely would have made Ohio State national champions.

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gwalther's picture

On the whole Guiton deal: I love Smooth Jazz, but he has rolled up numbers and W's on 3 absolutely awful defenses. Just pointing that out. 

Class of 2008

THE_JUICE's picture

Agreed.  Wisconsin would be a much more realistic test of Kenny's abilities.  Perhaps we'll see him in the Wisconsin game, perhaps we won't.  I'm very pleased with the results thus far and I have more confidence in this team than I thought I would.

D-Day0043's picture

After watching Elliot's commitment I became an instant fan. As far as Joey Bosa, I think it is a testament to the quality of the program he came from in high school. Those coaches had him ready to play at the college level, which is apparent in his transition. Credit to him for the work he put in to get on the field. Depth on the D-line is invaluable. Rotating fresh bodies without drop in production is rough on an offensive line.

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D-Day0043's picture

Ha ha!!!! Bert lost to Rutgers!!!! Karma is a biatch!

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gwalther's picture

Maryland and Rutgers both acquitted themselves well today against major conference out of conference opponents. Happy to welcome them to the B1G.

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DannyBeane's picture

B-1-G! B-1-G! B-1-G!

Defiance J's picture

Can someone up vote? My bad on the fat finger.

albinomosquito's picture

@jennbielema #karma

osupolo's picture

I really like the depth that is developing at every position. I tip my cap to Meyer and Co for having a competitive atmosphere in practice. 

bigbill992001's picture

Im embarrassed.   I hope we never have to play a team like that again.

Seattle Linga's picture

EZE reminds me of a hybrid of power and speed that once he's in the open field - he won't get caught. Only to get better the next three seasons. It'll be fun to watch.

lsjSnail's picture

Although, he did get caught..but the db had a good angle I think.

BuckGuy003's picture

I really hope Braxton isn't scared to come out and under perform...as competitive as he is, it's strange that he felt he couldn't go today. Maybe wants to be 100% so he doesn't come out and and not perform better than Kenny. I dunno.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Yeah, I'm sure the coaching staff will try to get him in the state of mind to not press, and just take what the defense gives him.  He'll be a little rusty so hopefully fans will not unload on him if he doesn't have three touchdown passes at the end of the first quarter.  Kenny G. is such a good distributor of the ball, runs the option so well, and has a relaxed and smooth delivery, hopefully Braxton has absorbed some of that and will become a better QB by taking all this in, added to his incredible ability to scramble and his strong arm.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

D-Day0043's picture

Put it this way... Meyer can downplay the situation all he wants. I don't care how good the chemistry is on this team it is always going to be in the back of everyone's mind that the backup QB takes over and has two record breaking performances in back to back weeks. Even if it is against sub-par competition. This actually has the potential to get ugly. Hopefully that won't happen. 
Yes Miller is fun to watch when he takes off and scrambles, but even against inferior opponents Miller hasn't put up those type of numbers. People point to the Nebraska game, but the truth is Nebraska's defense is terrible. In all actuality, Miller hasn't had a stellar performance since the Nebraska game last year. 
With that being said, hopefully Miller comes in next week and takes his game to a higher level. If he is struggling and gets pulled for Guiton, this situation could get ugly in a hurry. We will find out soon enough.

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lsjSnail's picture

Well, we straight up have not seen really anything from Miller this year because he has been hurt. 

D-Day0043's picture

We saw him play one good quarter and struggle for three. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and attribute it to being the first game of the year.

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fanatibuck's picture

You and fans like you are looking for DRAMA. The team will not allow over zealous blood thirsty fans break their chemistry and team morale. Urban says there is not controversy there is none. Brax will do fine next week. Count on it. He is studying and learning. 

THE URBANATOR AND HIS BOYS' JOURNEY HAS JUST BEGUN; 26-0 IS COMING BABY!!

D-Day0043's picture

Your tone isn't conducive to having an intelligent conversation. 

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GoBucksToledo's picture

I wonder of the decision was all Braxton's.
Regardless, I bet we see him back next week, wreaking damage!

FROMTHE18's picture

This Guiton story is legendary. He is the BACK UP QB and its tied for the national lead in TD passses and set an OSU record for a game in 1 half of play. Could go down as the greatest back up QB in college football history. 

fanatibuck's picture

Yep!! GO SMOOTH JAZZ!!!

THE URBANATOR AND HIS BOYS' JOURNEY HAS JUST BEGUN; 26-0 IS COMING BABY!!

ih8rolltyde's picture

So much this. He is just so cool about it, that's what sells me.

"I've been a team player for five years, why would I change now?"

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ellspar's picture

The infamous 10-10 tie against Michigan cost the team an opportunity at immorality....
 
I assume you meant immortality? I think its quite moral to beat the wolverines :)

zbd's picture

I was at the 10-10 game and Dennis Franklin ttun's QB broke his collarbone in the game. I think the voters took that into consideration, when voting OSU going to the Rose Bowl.  I couldn't believe the announcement on my car radio on the ride back to Columbus.

ih8rolltyde's picture

My dad told me that today.

Makes it so much more awesome.

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BeijingBucks's picture

actually if they woulda won the nat'l title there woulda been some immorality goin on!!

 

 

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dubjayfootball90's picture

Good read. I love this damn team.

zbd's picture

Does OSU really need to pad the schedule with these embarrassing teams like Florida A&M, San Diego State, Cal and Buffalo?  That's like me going one on one against my grandmother, who's 87 and can't see well. 

fanatibuck's picture

OMG!!!  Give it a rest already. Our noncon schedule is complete. Stop all the *itching about the schedule. We are officially in B1G play. I guess you are going to b*tch about how horrible the B1G is now. SIGH!!!!!!!!!!

THE URBANATOR AND HIS BOYS' JOURNEY HAS JUST BEGUN; 26-0 IS COMING BABY!!

D-Day0043's picture

Honestly this thread was pretty peaceful until you came in and started b**ching... 

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D-Day0043's picture

scUM is struggling with UCONN! Hopefully Bert and Beef O'Brady will lose in the same day. That would put great ending to my awful week! My wife and I, and both kids have been sick.

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Miami has 77 in the 3rd quarter against Savannah State, let's see how much criticism they get for scheduling such an inferior team.

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45has2's picture

Answer.....zero.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

D-Day0043's picture

Just caught Hoke's half time interview.
Coach Hoke, why has your team struggled so mightily against what should be two very inferior opponents?
Hoke: I don't know, I'm really just thinking about getting a cheeseburger and possibly walking to Ann Arbor to work it off...
Coach Hoke, you can't be serious?
Hoke: Hell yeah I am! Wendy's is running a deal on the Baconator! I will get a large diet coke when I upsize.
Coach Hoke, I just don't know what to say...
Hoke: Just don't tell Al. I don't want him trying to steal my fries.

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Seriously?  How old are you exactly, high school kid I'm guessing.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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No sense of humor Michigan man?

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

I do have a sense of humor, unfortunately you don't.  Brady Hoke is fat jokes don't belong on a site like this where the focus is analysis.  If you were even slightly clever or original, I'd give you props, but you are neither.  I graduated from tOSU as did my wife and my son, I donate every year to the alumni association, my first game at the shoe I saw a player run wild, his name was Archie Griffin ... so maybe should put on some big boy pants and act at least a little bit like an adult.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

D-Day0043's picture

You sound pretty miserable. I feel bad for you.
You want to talk about big boy pants? I was trying to bring a little levity, I will admit it was childish. I run my own business and work 40-60 hours a week, while going to school. I am putting my wife through school and taking care of two small children. All three if which I have had to stay up all night with them this week holding them while they were sick and vomiting. Plus I was sick myself. Talk to me about big boy pants? You sir can take your haughty, self-righteous comments and waste them on someone who actually cares what you think. Because I don't. Good day to you sir. ;-)
 

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irishfury's picture

There is room for Brady Hoke fat jokes anywhere at anytime.

BeijingBucks's picture

^this^  If Akron was a 'glazed donut' game... UConn was the ensuing heartburn?
You guys are getting upset about a Michigan coach that is making us and the rest of the B1G look bad on a now consistent basis!!  Don't get sensitive get pissed!!  Right now UM is doing nothing but detracting from our favorite sport, division, league and rivalry.
And you're offended by some 'fat' jokes?  I take offense at your feigned offense!!

 

 

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edr4225's picture

Braxton and kenny g on the field at the same time? i say why not, make those D coordinators lose their minds ! 

lets go bucks!!

45has2's picture

Call it The Buck Wild formation. Show it in a few games so Jabba The Hoke and Dolly Mattison get their panties all bunched up. Yep, that was a fat reference coupled with panties. You're welcome for the mental picture.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Crap, TTUN took the lead over UConn.  Maybe Gardner will throw another TD pass ... in his end zone to a Husky player.  And SDSU could have helped our SOS but lost to Oregon State, looks like their D collapsed in the 4th quarter, that sucks.  Oh well, at least Bielema lost.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

DefendYoungstown's picture

Down vote if you wish, Kenny Guiton has mastered this offense. Hopefully Braxton is in learning mode while on the sidelines, he can learn from watching KG. IMO, Urban has no choice but to run a 2 qb system the remainder of the year. How do you put ken back on the bench after the way he has executed the past 2 weeks.

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

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A very confusing play for defenses would be to put Guiton at QB and to put Miller at Receiver and bring Miller in motion on a jet sweep, Guiton hands off to Miller and he'll have the option to run or throw. It could be an unstoppable play if executed well enough.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Wonder what the Blue alumni are thinking about Hoke now.

ih8rolltyde's picture

He is fat?

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

ep's picture

They're winning ugly, but they're still winning.  Until a loss comes, they are what their record says they are.  With the recruiting where it is, I'm guessing they're still feeling pretty warm and fuzzy about Hoke, and they should be.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

If they continue to have officials like they did in the Akron game, a loss will be hard to come by.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BuckeyeinExile's picture

Was Gardner a Hoke recruit or a RichRod recruit? 
Like it or not they are still developing some depth up there, once they do they will be a tougher team. 
Urb did not inherit an empty cupboard when he arrived, however Hoke did for the offense he wants to run. I really thought Gardner would be alot better then he has has shown thus far, anyway, I think they will improve significantly between this year and next. I haven't looked at there BIG schedule much, but depending on which teams they play they may have a rough season. The only teams I see them winning against for sure being Purdue and Indiana. Iowa, Illinois, and Minnesota, and Nebraska could all give them a tough game. MSU, PSU would probably beat them. Wisky, NW, and us should trounce them. This is all on paper of course.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Was Gardner a Hoke recruit or a RichRod recruit?

Rich Rod.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

collisionbend's picture

Just saw a thread on Facebook from a Michigan fan page. They're acting like they're all king sh*t and all because they came from behind to win. Never mind that it was UConn...
They're like Pittsburgh Steeler fans, constantly living in the past.
Honestly, ttun needs work on both lines. Linebackers are questionable, at best. Gardner has no confidence, and Toussaint has issues running and holding onto the ball.
The Bucks are going to grind ttun into mincemeat, and quite quickly.
But, then again, so will Nerdwestern, and possibly Minnesota. Indiana has a good shot at them this year, as well...

"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell

 
Seattle Linga's picture

That's nice - they will drop a few before we get to them if they keep playing this way.

BeijingBucks's picture

Just ran into a guy with a 'Mehagain' T shirt on in a bookstore in Beijing...  I just said 'really?  you still wear that shirt in public?  For Shame!' He just sighed and asked, 'Uconn?'  worse.  'Buckeyes!'
He tried a few defaming witticisms but... at least he had the grace to admit he was just relieved they wouldn't lose next weekend.  The gauntlet was thrown down though after his assurances that by the end of the year they would be world beaters.  I'll take that bet thank you!!
It's on in the Forbidden City.

 

 

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