The Latest AP Top 25

September 3, 2013 at 11:51a    by DJ Byrnes    
79 Comments

Ohio State and Clemson each received one first place vote, which were the only first place votes not to go to Alabama. The Big Ten checks in with five teams: 

1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Ohio State
4. Clemson
5. Stanford
6. South Carolina
7. Texas A&M
8. Louisville
9. LSU
10. Florida State
11. Georgia
12. Florida
13. Oklahoma State
14. Notre Dame
15. Texas
16. Oklahoma
17. Michigan
18. UCLA
19. Northwestern
20. Washington
21. Wisconsin
22. Nebraska
23. Baylor
24. TCU
25. University of Southern California
 


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KingsRite's picture

Yep. I figured as much...

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

Gulfstreambuckeye's picture

Love it. Wish we would have dropped more.

Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust...but life goes on.

Ahh Saturday's picture

Um, why do you wish that?

Gulfstreambuckeye's picture

Motivated teams win more.

Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust...but life goes on.

ohst8buxCP's picture

Lower ranked teams also don't end up in the championship......

Gulfstreambuckeye's picture

Plenty of time for teams in front of them to lose.  Ohio State was 13th in 02' preseason.

Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust...but life goes on.

ohst8buxCP's picture

Personally i'd rather just not have to worry about it and be #2

ChazBuckeye's picture

It's week one results...not something to get too excited about.  Nor this guy's/gal's simplistic statement that is getting SO much attention.  Who cares what he or anyone thinks at this point.  Let's worry about this after week 11...

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

cplunk's picture

You don't have to worry about it after week 11 either. Or at all. It's the AP poll. It does not have any role in the BCS formual at all. Completely just for media types to feel important.

droessl's picture

in lieu of your wish, your helmet sticker count will drop more. 

Gulfstreambuckeye's picture

I dont wear a helmet.

Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust...but life goes on.

Gulfstreambuckeye's picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLYE8I9nGsMif I did wear a helmet it would be like this
 

Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust...but life goes on.

TNbuckeye91's picture

he did not deserve all the downvotes, but like he said, at least he doesnt wear a helmet.

KingsRite's picture

If we would have blown Buffalo out...we would have stayed at 2. Style points matter, it sucks but true.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

20pts is a blow out.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BrewstersMillions's picture

Especially when you hold the opposition to 253 yards and produce 460 yourself. Oh and the team you played witn 3-14 on third while you went 7-12.
Was it perfect? Of course not. You can always build.
Did Ohio State dominate? Yep.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

Fugelere's picture

True story.  If this had been a Tressel coached team and we had won by the same margin people wouldn't be able to contain their excitement.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I don't remember being giddy over Ohio State putting up 45 on Marshall. Maybe that's because the season "never happened".

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

dmurder's picture

Not trying to be a homer but seriously Oregon beat a terrible team and you would think voters would know that. There should never be movement against weak competition unless its close or you lose.

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

Bucksfan's picture

The only reason Oregon probably wasn't ranked #2 before the season was that Chip Kelly left, and they were expected to struggle as a result.  That didn't happen.

N8thegr8's picture

Actually Clemson got a 1st place vote as well. 

"Play for Ohio State or get beat by Ohio State. That simple." - Kirk Barton 

DJ Byrnes's picture

Fixed. Grazi tanto. 

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

BoBo16's picture

Not trying to be a pain but 6. Southern Carolina (South Carolina) Also I think that Clemsons offense may be the scariest offense on the NCAA by the time bowl season comes around. If they looked that good in week one imagine what itll look like in the last week against South Carolina.

Eat, Sleep, and Breathe Buckeyes

acBuckeye's picture

I figured we'd drop...... surprised we're not behind Clemson too, but what do you expect from a group that rewards teams for beating a 1-AA opponent by 60 points.

d5k's picture

Movement in the polls never makes sense.  TCU losing a close game to LSU should not result in movement as they should have been expected to lose a close game to LSU at best.

Gulfstreambuckeye's picture

Southern carolina?

Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust...but life goes on.

DJ Byrnes's picture

SMH. I blame writing each "USC" out.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

boojtastic's picture

Yeah, I don't get why South Carolina wants to be "USC" when they can be the undeniably more awesome "SCAR"

faux_maestro's picture

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cinserious's picture

PEETAH! Look at his hat. Aren't you gonna' say somethin'?

Gone ham, be back soon...

Poison nuts's picture

My mother in law just moved to South Carolina last year & all of the sudden, she loves the Cocks.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

BuckeyeVet's picture

Your father-in-law discovered viagra?

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

Poison nuts's picture

Haha...no - no father in law in the picture & never heard of this Viagra stuff - just a sweet older lady who's a really big Cocks fan!

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

KingsRite's picture

If we don't blow these weak teams out and Oregon or Stanford goes undefeated with SEC getting in with a winless or 1 loss team...we can kiss our NC hopes bye bye...

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

Squirrel Master's picture

winless SEC team? now I think the SEC love has gone way overboard if a winless team gets in the Naty!
:)
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

KingsRite's picture

Typo...lol UNDEFEATED SEC or even UNDEFEATED ACC.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!!

scottynoshotty's picture

probably a completely biased view, but there is probably 20+ teams that could drop 60 on Nicholls State. 

Well i like college and i like football...and im gunna keep doin em both cause they make me feel good!!!

jeremytwoface's picture

So basically, the polls have turned into a contest of who can score the most.
 
Good job Oregon for destroying a team that went 1-10 in Division II last year against teams like Lamar and Stephen F. Austin.
 
Beating Buffalo is a higher quality win no matter what the score is.

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

acBuckeye's picture

Quit using logic. You're making too much damn sense.

jeremytwoface's picture

Ah shoot...
I forgot that logic does not apply to anything in sports anymore.
My bad.

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

CUBS's picture

Nothing personal, but the polls have long been about style points. Margin of Victory used to be a a part of the formula, at least in an informal sense from what I remember. What tends to happen is all of these "lower tier" teams are clumped together as in Buffalo = Nicholls State. The pollsters only worry about the good teams, or teams they view as "good" and so anybody outside of that group tends to be grouped into the "lower tier". Thats why even a 20 point win over Buffalo really doesn't matter to the voters. You also have to factor in that the majority of voters didn't pay attention to the Oregon game and just looked at the box score while, since Ohio State was on early enough, they tuned in and saw the struggling O-line, issues with the defense, and giving up 20 points and then compare that to Oregon's dismantling of a "similar low tier" opponent. Regardless, Margin of Victory will always matter and if you can beat a team by 100, you should pursue it without looking like a complete dickhead (i.e. running up the score in crazy ways). Close calls, unless against a top 10 team, will always be looked at as a flaw for the highly ranked team. 

jeremytwoface's picture

Yeah I totally understand how it works...
 
I Just don't agree with it lol.
No harm done though... it's the first day of the work week so I feel like complaining :)
 

The first man gets the Oyster, the second man gets the shell.

CUBS's picture

I would complain as well. I disagree with the thought that Ohio State didn't impress. They didn't need to. It was Buffalo. Time for being impressive will be at Cal and in Big Ten play. I think the voters should pay more attention and be more realistic rather than click on the box score but thats the way its been forever so I guess they are just too lazy to change.

buckeyedude's picture

Damn, you N'western geeks really are smart! I thought it was a myth!
(Just teasing, CUBS. Another good post. +1. Your analysis is spot on.)
I find this comment interesting though:

 if you can beat a team by 100, you should pursue it without looking like a complete dickhead (i.e. running up the score in crazy ways).

Does this include going for 2 twice in one game(because they wouldn't let us go for 3) while ahead by a comfortable margin?

 

 

raki's picture

I am not much worried about polls right now. Keep winning and the poll should take care itself. If we are number 1 or 2 after the big ten championship in all the polls then we are in National championship.

AJW_16's picture

Not surprising that we dropped, but a bit surprised that Oregon leapfrogged us. Thought it would be Clemson.

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

BTBuckeye's picture

Not really a big deal at this point.
Clemson deserved the bump. Good for them until they start playing like Clemson again!

buckeyestu's picture

It is way too early to worry about polls. Oregon and louisville both played no one, and they moved up.  Lsu had a quality win, and should be ahead of johnny u and loserville. Florida State and Georgia imo should also be ahead of johnny u and loserville.

elitesmithie's picture

It will all work itself out by the end of the year. Oregon and Stanford play each other and Clemson will do Clemson things.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Georgia should not have dropped 6 spots.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Squirrel Master's picture

They should have gone up 3 spots! Didn't they see how well they did in that loss against a non SEC team? they really didn't take it realistically. they thought Clemson was an intramural game, not for realz!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

it's ok...just saw an ESPN segment saying we were the team with the most concern after week one......

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I also noticed that next year FSU will be the team that they won't shut up about.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Nike U's just getting extra votes due to their new football facilities........

Seabass1974's picture

This poll doesn't even count for anything, why even bother paying attention to it?

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

acBuckeye's picture

The AP still recognizes a national champion, and hands out a big, shiny trophy to the final #1 team. It counts for something.

Seabass1974's picture

It counts for crap if they don't crown the only undefeated team left standing at the end of the year. Which just happened. Also, I don't hear to many people boasting about being AP champs.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

acBuckeye's picture

It's still considered one of the consensus selectors of national champions. Also, the National Football Foundation is as well. This is the same organization that names our very own tOSU champs in 1970. Guess why our school claims 7 national titles? B/c they COUNT the 1970 title. So again, yes it does matter.
We were undefeated last year, yes. But we missed out on two other chances to prove our worth b/c of the sanctions. I don't blame the AP for passing on us. I'll take my #3 ranking and move on.

Mirror Lake Jump's picture

Surprised that Nebraska stayed in the top 25

cinserious's picture

I was hoping to lay a 70-10 beatdown on Buffalo just to validate our #2 ranking and keep us from sliding down but Urban has other plans. He started out hot and jumped to a 23-0 lead but then laid back on the playbook a bit after that. Why show the rest of the country what we've got in the first game? Beating down the Bulls that bad proves nothing and it certainly won't move you up in rankings. Against SDSU, we might put a thorough beatdown on them without showing much playbook either. Early season rankings don't mean much anyway as there will be alot of shuffling in the coming weeks.

Gone ham, be back soon...

EDUGOON's picture

Keep us in the top 3, pray Michigan has a great year, wax they butt in late November give them either loss number 2 or 1 on the season, and we in the BCS!!! BadddddaBoomBadddaBing! We in there. But seriously be on the look out for FSU throughout the year. They are going to punish Clemson and wont be tested until they play the Gators. Winston is a problem!!!

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acBuckeye's picture

Clemson will give them a much bigger test than Florida. The Gators got issues........

buckeyefanatic's picture

Such a long season, I am OK with us dropping.  I don't think it is RIGHT and I don't think Urban F Meyer will have a problem keeping the guys motivated but it will just make them play with a little more motivation.  Or maybe I am a dumb fan and the kids are oblivious to the drop. 
Either way, FOOTBALL IS BACK AND LIFE IS GOOD!  Was so happy watching the game last weekend.
GO BUCKS!

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ScarletGray43157's picture

This is the kind of thing that makes me glad that a playoff system is coming.

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

buckeyedude's picture

The #5 team is still going to get shut out. But it will make it less likely that a true championship caliber team will get shut out of a chance to play for the NC.
Hopefully this is just a pause before it moves to an 8 team(or something near that) playoff. I think it would be doable.

 

 

Jeeves's picture

8 team playoff is not necessary as conference championship games are the de-facto first rounds, (or should be).

hodge's picture

Man, I hope not.  I don't think you'll ever see more than four championship-calibre teams in the running every year (typically you'll see less than that), all an eight-team playoff would serve to do is devalue the regular season at the expense of two first-round playoff games, which will allow non-elite teams the chance to "get hot late," a la the NFL.  I love college football so much because it celebrates perfection--you really can't back into a title game (unless you've played a flawless season up to your loss).
I can live with six, though; it gives 1 & 2 a bye (read: incentive) while letting #3-#6 duke it out for a chance to play them.  To me, at least, eight is just too much.

Oyster's picture

You must detest March Madness then. What better example of being rewarded for getting hot late and letting non elite teams play where they don't belong.

hodge's picture

Yup.  I love the event as a whole, but I think it completely destroys the idea of what a "champion" truly is.  Now, it can be argued that a lot of the smaller conference champions deserve the opportunity to showcase themselves, since the "have nots" in college basketball have a whole lot better chance at besting the "haves" than they do in football.  The disparity's just that much larger.
College football's regular season is the greatest in all of sports because the whole "Every Game Matters" schtick is true.  If Oklahoma doesn't get beaten by Texas A&M in 2002, then we don't play Miami for the championship.  In college basketball, the regular season is almost meaningless because of the prodigious amount of at-large berths a team can attain.  

Oyster's picture

I say let every conference champion play for the crown.  That way all the games matter, because you have to win your conference and it takes the cherry picking aspect out of who gets in and who doesn't.  You want to play, win your conference first.  First round byes/home field can be determined by records.  Later games (final 4 for lack of better words) then move to neutral sites.  Early round losers have automatic tie ins to the later bowl games.  The bigger bowl games are part of the playoff.  Everyone has a fair chance to participate and the bowls are still relevant.  It's a win win! 

hodge's picture

Conference champions I'm kinda torn on, since I want the best possible teams playing, but I like the simplicity of conference champs.  I don't know if I like all of them getting in, though; since some conference champs play in weak conferences/divisions.  The last thing I want to see is another UCONN-in-the-BCS debacle.  Perhaps there can be minimum measures enacted to prevent such occurrences?

Oyster's picture

How can there be a better team than a conference champion?  Now you are adding the human element into the equation and deciding who deserves to play and who doesn't.  Kinda like a certain NC game a couple of years ago when a team that DIDN'T EVEN PLAY FOR THEIR CONFERENCE TITLE was already anointed as one of the teams in the NC game.  Something is wrong there.  Also, why are some conferences 'worthy' of being considered to participate and others are not?  Based on the bowl records of late, I know of a certain Mid Western Conference that probably falls into the "They don't deserve to be there" column, if we are willing to talk honestly about things.  If you are a BCS conference, you get an equal shot. 

hodge's picture

How can there be a better team than the conference champion?  Just because they weren't the best team during their conference championship game doesn't mean that they are the best team in their conference (think of a 7-5 Georgia Tech knocking off an undefeated FSU--is Tech really the better team because they won that game?).  Allowing conference champs the ability to compete for a national title means that a 7-5 team from a weak division is merely an upset away from competing for a title--which flies directly in the face of the "every game matters" mantra I appreciate so much in college football. 

Oyster's picture

No, it is exactly the every game matters mentality.  If you don't win your conference, you are out.  If you lose to 7-5 GT in conference play, you obviously were not ready to play them, overlooked them or they flat out beat your a@@.  Better luck next time, because that game mattered, and you BLEW IT!  The problem with your theory is that somebody is always left out, and that somebody will always have a compelling reason why it was wrong to pass them over.  Conference champs play, no crying from anyone.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Until it gets here. Then there will be arguing over why Ohio State is in over a 5 loss SEC team.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Jeeves's picture

OSU will get in undefeated over any one loss team from the secheat.