Stephen Collier Commits to Ohio State

By Jeremy Birmingham on June 21, 2013 at 9:06p
391 Comments

Last Saturday, Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer and Lee County High School (Leesburg, Ga.) quarterback Stephen Collier had a conversation that Collier had been waiting on for some time. While the call didn't answer all his questions, it gave Collier a timeline for when he might hear back from Ohio State. 

Stephen Collier Throws A DartCollier has waited patiently for his turn - he's got it.

"He told me that I was their guy," Collier told Eleven Warriors. "(Meyer) said that he needed to sit down and talk again with the coaching staff and Coach Herman after Father's Day because he'd been fundraising since all the stuff happened on (last) Friday night."

"The stuff" Collier is referring to was the news that Apopka (Fla.) QB Zack Darlington and Bolivar (Mo.) QB Rafe Peavey, who were both scheduled to make their play for a Buckeye offer — as Collier did at Ohio State on June 9th — would both be passing on their chance; Darlington committed to Nebraska and Peavey reconfirmed his commitment to Arkansas. That opened the door for Collier, who has been a primary target for the Buckeyes since they first checked in on him in late April, to get the offer he was most coveting.

"Coach Herman called me a little bit after the camp tonight, and he said 'let's cut to the chase,'" Collier told Eleven Warriors. "He asked me if I would like a scholarship offer from Ohio State and I said yes. So, as of right now, I'm committed to Ohio State. My family and I are so grateful and excited. I've been holding back tears."

With that offer, and that call back today, Collier became Ohio State's 2014 quarterback and it's something he could not be more excited about. 

Collier was hoping for this chance for a while, and he made it a point to come to Columbus to earn the offer he wanted. He's not the type of person who is happy to receive something he didn't work hard to attain.

"At the camp, I got a chance to workout for Coach Meyer and Coach Herman," he said. "I felt like I impressed them but the coaches told me that they needed to evaluate two other players that had promised they'd look at. I spent a lot of time with Coach Meyer and I have just been trying to be patient."

There's no more being patient for Collier, he wanted the offer from Ohio State and was sure that if it came he would not take a chance on missing the opportunity to play for the Buckeyes.

"It felt like an environment I could do really well in," he said. "They get the most out of their players because they do a really good job of mixing a demanding yet nurturing atmosphere."

As the last few weeks had passed, Collier began feeling a bit more confident that the offer would come, but he never let it get the better of him.

"You could see all the pieces starting to fall, but I've been patient," he added. "I knew that I wanted to play for Coach Meyer because as great as I personally know I want to be, he makes me want to be even greater."

Collier is working hard to improve his game and it's paid off in spades for the 6-foot-4, 210-pound quarterback. He doesn't have the look or the game of a "three-star" quarterback as he's "rated", but it's a ratings system that's as much about politics as it is about talent. This spring Collier went to work on the camp circuit and impressed everywhere he's been, earning an invitation to the Elite 11 final camp in Oregon at the end of this month as well as a number offers from schools he'd visited along the way. 

"This spring really was great. I knew I had to go out and make a name for myself due to the limited playing time I had last year. We averaged 45 points a game so for almost half the season our starters were pulled at halftime," he said of junior season at Lee County. "This spring I felt like I had to show everyone what I was capable of so I just worked as hard as I knew how, on and off the field. I knew I was going to have to get to a few camps to get my name out and it was hard at first because I was just finishing up with my basketball season. I think I hit my stride finally around the time of the Elite 11 and NFTC and it paid off with the Elite 11 invitation, which is an incredible opportunity and blessing."

Stephen Collier is all smiles as he joins the Buckeyes 2014 class.Collier impressed Ohio State from day one.

"Last year, I had to beat the returning starter out, a senior, for the starting job. I've never been so concerned with rankings and stars and all that because those things are superficial, but I know why they matter to fans," he continued. "Ratings can't judge work ethic, character, and the will to succeed, and that it seems to me is far more important thing. The priority for me was uniting my team in order to make this year one of the best in school history. We fell short last year and I take responsibility for that, so the focus was — and is — striving for greatness as a team. I knew if I did the right things offers would come."

Collier's physical prowess aside, his competitive nature his well-measured approach to the recruiting process might have been what separated him from others that the Buckeyes were still considering at their most important position.

"With quarterbacks recruiting is different. While a coach can see a wide receiver on film and call and offer the next day, quarterbacks will one day be the leaders of programs so coaches have to make sure they're 100-percent positive that that recruit can handle the responsibility," Collier said. "That means making visits to campus, having coaches watching you throw multiple times, breaking down game film with a coach, etc.; it's a tedious process. So being patient is a must. It was hard at first because I didn't know all of this beforehand but once I learned the ropes a little I just had learn to let things work out on their own."

"I'm going to get to work on getting the best guys in our class," he said. "I've already been talking to a lot the guys and getting to know the other commits. Next week is The Opening and that's a big opportunity for being out there with that many great people."

Ohio State fans have been waiting for months to find out who would be the quarterback in their 2014 recruiting class and today you met him.

Say hello to Stephen Collier.

 

391 Comments

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

Kid has the brain of Krenzel (4.2gpa!?), the body of TP (6'-4" - 210) and the GAME OF THROWNES!

cinserious's picture

I find it disturbing that I get off everytime I see this wanton display of air-humping! Are they advertising the new Viagara flavored Red Bull?
I'll take the brains of Krenzel and body of Pryor, but I really want the overall 'game' of Braxton (with overall better passing mechanics of course)

Gone ham, be back soon...

Cavluv23's picture

Lol I can't get enough of this video lol

World travel is my passion spreading the word and grace of Ohio in every corner of the world . 

buckeyeguy0615's picture

This kid has a high ceiling. Don't downplay this commitment, folks.  He has worked hard for everything he's got and knows that nothing is given to him. Props to him

TheBadOwl's picture

THIS NEWS IS SO GUCCI. LET'S GET CRUNK.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

Knarcisi's picture

Box party weekend!

William's picture

Awesome pick up. Seems like he's a pretty physical runner, which is how I'd rather have my QB in a heavy running spread like OSU's. 

lljjgg's picture

I agree with you William. That was the first thing that stuck out to me about his tape, as well. Very bruising runner who almost never goes down after the first hit, which is very useful in the version of Urbz spread that Tebow ran (where the QB was almost like a FB).

gnesq1's picture

Welcome to Buckeye Nation.  We appreciate your work ethic and attitude. 

DLB1276's picture

Man, he's already throwing out the "as of right now"? He's already got one foot out the door. ..haha.

tdible2132's picture

I thought that was interesting as well... Doubt it means much, but I did think to myself "so wait is he holding out for an SEC offer or something?".  I think he's all buckeye though.  Definitely shows that Brandon Harris was never going to leave the south.

Poison nuts's picture

I believe that's him saying that he was a Buckeye as of the moment he got the offer.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Exactly, it meant "as of now, as of this moment I am a Buckeye."

This kid has been waiting for a moment like this.

Adam21's picture

Or Urban talked to him about a commitment only meaning that school made that player's top 3.

btalbert25's picture

Dude said he was holding back tears after he got the offer.  He's not going anywhere. 

Hovenaut's picture

FAN-F'N-TASTIC!

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Right Again's picture

Awesome!!
Seems like a great kid! There's definitely something to be said for someone who really wants to be here!
Welcome to The Ohio State University!

LadyBuck's picture

That show! I remember it well...

tdible2132's picture

Very interstinggggg.  Glad to have him aboard.  Hopefully Jamarco Jones is next!

Gametime's picture

For all you guys who wondered what Terelle Pryor would've been like in this offense, this kid is about give us taste in a few years! Great pick-up!

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

I love this kid. An incredible person and a player.

TheGhostofWoody's picture

Then why is he rated considerably lower than other QBs who were interested in us?

William's picture

1) Might have attended fewer camps than other players, exposure is huge. 
2) Fewer/less impressive stats, as he did say he was usually pulled at half time of most games due to his team's lead. 
3) I mean it even says he hit the Spring camps this year and earned an Elite 11 offer, what more do you want in a QB?

It actually helps if you read the article. It's a crazy concept, I know. 

dzig's picture

forget it.....

"all men are created equal, it's just that some are MORE equal than others"

Gametime's picture

Hey, JJ Watt was 2 star -- just sayin'. Watch this kid's stock go up after his showing at the Elite 11.
 

 

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

txbucknut's picture

I think player ratings are heavily weighted by the number of offers the have and which schools offer. If that's the case, expect him to rise up the rankings over the next few weeks/months because of the Buckeyes offer, and other offers that will likely follow. 

GV9's picture

Just curious, what other offers did he have?  

TheGhostofWoody's picture

La Tech
Georgia State
Cincinnati 
Boston College
Marshall
Middle Tennessee 
Toledo
Troy
Wake Forest
Western Kentucky
Harvard

WhySoSerious's picture

So what...

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

Golden Buckeye's picture

Why are we downvoting GhostofWoody? He answered the question. He isn't bashing the kid. Those are his actual other offers at this time.  If you don't believe him here is the link, http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stephen-Collier-27557/RecruitInterests
But to downvote him based on providing an offer list is downright wrong.
Edit: His other comments are why he was downvoted.  Still wrong to do, but I see why he got 3 downvotes for an offer list now.

Jdadams01's picture

Love the Harvard offer. 

Squirrel Master's picture

FYI, Braxton Miller only had 1 offer! Ryan Shazier, 1 offer. 
Gareon Conley from this last class had 4 offers, 2 you should know about, the others were Northwestern and Marshall.
Point is, the offer list and rankings don't really tell the whole story a bunch of the time. Some commits don't care about multiple offers and tell programs they aren't interested because they are locked in on 1 specific offer they want. 
Not saying Collier would have had a bunch of offers but I'm pretty excited about the tape and I have seen worst tape on higher rated QBs. 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Umm, what? That's not true. Braxton and Shazier had a lot of offers.

Braxton(21 offers)
http://ohiostate.scout.com/a.z?s=145&p=8&c=1&nid=3254004

Shazier(24 offers)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/football/recruiting/player-Ryan-Shazie...

Before Urban left Florida, Shazier was committed to the Gators.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Danify's picture


This is all I see from your comment Ghost...

Braxton2Devin's picture

YESSS!! I am a huge supporter of this guy. I believe he has a ton of potential. Pryor 2.0 hopefully

Gobucks2204's picture

He wears number 5. Let's hope he can be Braxton 2.0! :)

GeorgiaBuckeye2114's picture

Pryor 2.0 minus the tatgate

unknownmusketeer's picture

Troy Smith (throwing accuracy and arm strength his senior year) + Terrelle Pryor (physique, strength, 3rd down prowess) + Braxton Miller (elusiveness, speed, grit, and overall Braxton-ness) + Craig Krenzel (4th down heroics) = Craxton Smyor (?) or the ultimate FrankenBuckeye QB

Gobucks2204's picture

"My family and I are so grateful and excited. I've been holding back tears."
Now that's a heart for the Buckeyes. What a great kid! Welcome aboard Stephen!

buckeyedude's picture

Agreed. When I read that it almost brought me to tears. If this young man is this emotional about getting a Buckeye offer, then I'm excited.

 

 

UrbanBuckeye's picture

Seems very mature. Exactly the kind of person we want at our program. Congrats, Stephen!

In Urban We Trust!

Knarcisi's picture

Damn ... Film looks good to me. 

buckeyeguy0615's picture

Hmm..

rampageripster's picture

Jones (announces on the 27th) and McLaurin would be my best guess... maybe Samules?

Cause I couldn't go for three

skid21's picture

Not to be negative but I guess this means no Harris?

TheGhostofWoody's picture

It sure does.  Big mistake by the staff imo.

Knarcisi's picture

Harris was a long shot and they knew it and probably more before offering Collier. We'll make a winner out of Collier, Barrett, or Jones. 

TheGhostofWoody's picture

Even if Harris was a long shot, what about Barker?  Kizer?  Darlington?  

rampageripster's picture

Darlington turned us down man.

Cause I couldn't go for three

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Darlington was never offered.

Kizer was never offered.

Barker was never offered.

Collier was. He accepted. 

Stop the negativity in a positive thread and a great moment for a tremendous person and his family.

Gametime's picture

Jeremy, FWIW you asking that... TheGhostofWoody and pessimism seem to go hand in hand...I think you're asking too much. =/ 
On a side note, next time you're in town - let one of us buy you a beer guy. Jordan, Miles, and all of you guys have really, really, kicked ass and we all greatly appreciate it.

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

DbuckiMcG's picture

I concur sir, We should get pumped for future bucks, not bitter about what could have been. Everyone misses on getting some recruits, its more important to not miss on the people you do bring in. Personally I am pumped for our newest QB commit. You have to love the outstanding academics on top of the athletic ability.

skid21's picture

Darlington wasn't offered?

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

He could not have committed without coming up to visit, no.

osu07asu10's picture

Jeremy,
Collier's comment about QB offers being different than a WR was interesting to me. Do you think that positions in general have a bigger role in committable/non-commit able offers than maybe previously thought? (i.e. unless you were D. Watson, you were coming on campus to get a QB committable offer)

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Dread's picture

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont think it was commitable.
 
edit: Yeah... what Jermey said.

CowCat's picture

Absolutely.  Some of these Grumpus people are embarassing Buckeye Nation.
A great kid with a great attitude commits and we ... nitpick?  Really?
Oh, I forgot. Mr. Armchair Do-Nothing knows more than URBAN F**ING MEYER.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

cplunk's picture

Exactly- this kid worked his ass off to earn what he wanted and he succeeded. That's fantastic in anything, even better when what he wanted was to be a Buckeye. I couldn't be happier for him and I look forward to watching him prove all these doubters thoroughly wrong.

buckeyedude's picture

Since I can't upvote ya Jeremy, +1 for my brotha from anotha mutha.

 

 

Knarcisi's picture

Urban and staff didn't think enough of them to offer. The guys good at picking the talent are doing just that. Don't you get it?

Cavluv23's picture

There's always a Debbie downer ....
 

World travel is my passion spreading the word and grace of Ohio in every corner of the world . 

toad1204's picture

 

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

OSUs12-OH's picture


This was my reaction to Jeremy's reply to Captain Bring Down and the Buzz Killers!  

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

William's picture

It sure does.  Big mistake by the staff imo.

How many national titles have you coached teams to exactly? Conference Championships? Players recruited? And I'm sorry but your NCAA 13 franchise doesn't count, I know, I wish it did too, those 25 titles I've won in a row also demonstrate the talent my thumbs have. 

I mean seriously, the coaching staff has demonstrated that they know what they're doing, and all you're doing is playing the part of Armchair QB/Pessimistic asshole. 

CowCat's picture

No, you're just a troll

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

Oakland Buckeye's picture

Just found out I share a cubicle with this deuche - he is right about one thing, he is an honest deuche

Sauce Bauss's picture

I'm not sure if you can say that. Just because he is rated lower than Harris doesn't mean he will be a worse QB. I remember in the 2002 class a certain 3 star QB beat out a certain 5 star QB and won the Heisman and led the buckeyes to the NCG. Trust in the staff and be happy for the guy. Clearly he worked for this offer and I, for one, am happy to see him in S&G.  

jkrk's picture

Break the film down for us, Corch Meyers. Show us what UFM and Boy Genius Herman can't see. 

TheGhostofWoody's picture

Why don't you just ask every single major program that declined to offer?

jkrk's picture

Thought it would save time to ask one guy rather than writing 30 emails. But it's my mistake for thinking you had the brains or the stones to back up the sewage you're spewing. 

poop's picture

Why? Most of them haven't had a fraction of the success that OSU and Meyer can claim. I'm excited about this kid. Ever heard of the Elite 11?

Northbrook's picture

Best stop before you get voted out of even your ghostly existence.
BTW, you're wrong to be negative on this.

cplunk's picture

Your name is incorrect; there is no way you are the ghost of Woody. Woody loved players that worked their ass off and wanted to be part of Ohio State. By all accounts of Collier's personality, Woody would have loved him.

jestertcf's picture

Joe Flacco went to Deleware
Matt Ryan to BC
Ben Rothlisbeger to Miami Ohio
What did their offer lists look like??

~Because we couldn't go for three~

jamesrbrown322's picture

Harris was virtually an impossibility, given his desire to stay in the South. At the very least, this kid seems like a really good, high character person, as much as one can tell from an interview anyway.
Every program can always use kids like this, especially at the QB position. Don't forget he has 1 more year of HS, then probably a redshirt, then sit behind Barrett for a little while. Something could happen. He's 17, and more likely to improve than regress.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

GeorgiaBuckeye2114's picture

THEGHOSTOFWOODY is a TROLL

tdible2132's picture

I get that not everyone is going to be jumping for joy with these next few commitments, especially with the likely event that McLaurin and Gesicki join the fold.  A lot of 3 star under the radar guys is disappointing to some, considering some thought this class would be top 5.  I think it's time to realize that it's not going to be the case, but we just need to trust the staff.  They know what they are doing and I trust that the future of OSU football is in good hands.

jkrk's picture

3 stars are always a disappointment. Would've been nice if that Laurinaitis kid could've made a name for himself . . .

Knarcisi's picture

And Jenkins, and Roby. 

William's picture

AJ HAWK WAS A THREE STAR 
 
Edit: Damnit Knarcisi, you beat me to it!

buckeyedude's picture

I forgot about Big Hank. Yep. 3* coming out of Cass H. S.

 

 

TheGhostofWoody's picture

I don't understand why people constantly repeat this logical fallacy.  Yes, there have been excellent three stars.  That doesn't change the fact that they are generally less successful than higher ranked recruits.

jkrk's picture

We repeat this fallacy because of yours. 

Roger's picture

You're missing out on a very important aspect though: good recruiters with a highly developed ability to judge talent CONSISTENTLY turn three stars into good players.

When Jim Tressel was head coach at tOSU, he turned the highest percentage of 3 stars in the nation into NFL players over almost a decade. All that matters is a recruiter's ability to judge talent, not star rankings. 

DallasTheologian's picture

Some rules for following recruiting:
1. Never be upset with a 3 star camp offer. It means that the coaches have had a chance to look at the kid through a microscope and they like what they see. 
2. Never ever be upset with a camp offer/commit in June. There are no reaches in June. If the staff took Collier's commitment it means:
                a. They knew they would not get Harris
                b. They like Collier better
                c. They panicked and reached
3. Remember that Meyer closes with extreme prejudice and this will almost certainly be a top 10 class when it is all said and done (perhaps even a top 5 class) given the ability to go to 21-22.
 

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Really valid points here, Dallas. I agree 100%.

Knarcisi's picture

Antonio Pittman, Donald Washington, Doug Datish, Kirk Barton ...

Knarcisi's picture

Tyvis Powell ... Going to start as a redshirt Fr. 

Golden Buckeye's picture

Also its not over! Collier still has time to be rated higher. Ezekiel Elliott was a 3 star around this time last year too.

GV9's picture

Good Point.  I think Elliot is going to be an absolute stud when he hits The Shoe in a year or two.   

USMC11917's picture

I agree with. I am more interested in what they are rated after their senior season.

trock's picture

On twitter Harris is saying the opposite 

Gametime's picture

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

TheGhostofWoody's picture

It's not about what Harris says.  It's about what we have room for.  We can't take 2 QBs.

txbucknut's picture

Unless the Coaching Staff anticipate the Miller might try and go pro after this season. If that ends up being the case, why not take 2 QB's if Harris decides to commit? That would leave 4 scholarship QB's: Jones, Barrett, Collier & Harris. 

YTOWNBUCKI's picture

There's room for Harris.  No doubt about that.  Unless you think they're going to say no to him, which I highly doubt. 

GV9's picture

Surprising tweets from a player that some are saying has only a small likelihood of choosing Ohio State.  If Brandon Harris is still considering tOSU this strongly then I hope that he or Collier can also play another position if need be.  

GV9's picture

Stephen Collier does sound like a very smart, talented, flexible, focused, and grounded young man.  It's hard to go wrong with those qualities.

DallasTheologian's picture

That would seem to be him trying to keep the suspense alive, considering Allen committed to A&M (the other school he was interested in). Notice that he puts his decision date at the end with "epic." At least IMO.

jestertcf's picture

well done on the scoop Jeremy.

~Because we couldn't go for three~

allbucksallthetime's picture

Collier seems to be a very mature young man.  I especially loved these quotes. 
"Ratings can't judge work ethic, character, and the will to succeed, and that it seems to me is far more important thing. The priority for me was uniting my team in order to make this year one of the best in school history. We fell short last year and I take responsibility for that, so the focus was — and is — striving for greatness as a team. I knew if I did the right things offers would come."
Welcome aboard Mr. Collier.  We're glad you are a Buckeye.  Go Bucks!

lljjgg's picture

Awesome quote from him, I love his mentality. To me attitude and work ethic are so underrated when it comes to recruits. AJ Hawk and Brad Roby were 3*s as well. You don't have to be a recruiting site darling to do big things at the collegiate level. IMO his film shows tremendous potential.

BuckeyeLawyer's picture

The quote that you reference is as impressive a quote as I have seen from a Buckeye commit in recent memory.  For me, this came out of left field as I did not know much about this quarterback.  However, when I read that quote, I immediately became a fan of his.  Chalk me up as excited - and impressed!

Dread's picture

So this is a gray box right?

Crimson's picture

I know, right?!?

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Sorry guys, figured a big white box might be best for this one.

BlueBayou's picture

A much better response would have been that only the premium members got to see a grey box for this one.  ;). Impressive write up by the way. You even got me rooting for the kid and I'm a Michigan fan.  Ok, the fact that he seems like a great kid that has worked hard to get where he is at probably also plays a part.  

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

This is absolutely a PERSON you can root for and in today's world, that's a win.

BlueBayou's picture

Agreed.  I want to see this kid succeed on the field.  I hope he becomes the starter in his time at tOSU.  Will you hold it against me if I hope he is just slightly less successful one game a year?  Welcome to the B1G Stephen!

BeijingBucks's picture

Well Krenzel kinda proved a cerebral QB can win championships vs. a physical specimen alone.  I still remember the Nat. Chship announcers starting the game with the 'worst QB ever' comments and finishing with him getting the MVP.
This kid looks bloody intelligent and is obviously a hard worker.  Love it.  take that over entitlement any day.

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

buckeyedude's picture

100% spot on, Beijing. This young man is our future QB.
--->Good throwing motion: check
---->Ability to scramble: check
---->Smart/intelligent: check
---->Leader: check
---->Loves OSU so much he cried when he got the offer: check
Full disclosure: I was very disappointed when Deshone Kizer didn't get an offer from OSU, but I believe this kid has "winner" written all over him. And he loves the Buckeyes.

 

 

Firmthyfriendship's picture

Congratulations! I really like your comments about the stars system, and wanting to be the best. Seem like a humble kid with just enough of a chip on your shoulder to make people weep for underestimating you. Good luck in that, and hope to see it happen.

argyle182021's picture

He seems well spoken for a 17 year old.
 
Leesburg, GA looks pretty rural.  How is the competition his team plays against?

hops's picture

"Pretty rural" is an understatement. I live in Atlanta and I had to google map it. It's in BFN.

CALPOPPY's picture

That's pretty funny as it's just like Leesburg, OH. Who knows where that is? I only know as my college roommate is from Leesburg. 

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

skid21's picture

I'm not usually openly negative but I can't be excited by this commit. Criticize me as much as you want but I just don't see it with this guy. I know Urban does and he knows more than me but I'd rather wait until next year. I hope in a few years this kid makes a fool of me and is a star but as of right now I can't be excited by this commit. Not a great offer list at all.

rampageripster's picture

Urban wants a QB every year for depth reasons.  That way you are not a transfer/injury/early draftee or two from having serious depth issues.
I sure hope he becomes a star, but because of the way UFM recruits QBs the beautiful thing is he doesn't actually have to be.  Not bringing in a QB every year forces you to hit a home run with every QB you recruit.

Cause I couldn't go for three

Knarcisi's picture

Troy Smith proved everyone wrong. 

TheGhostofWoody's picture

And some people win the lottery too!

AndyVance's picture

Yes, they're called "Ohio State Head Football Coaches." Exhibits A, B, and C: Wayne Woodrow Hayes, James Patrick Tressel and Urban Frank Meyer. Highly consistent at capturing lightning in a bottle.

JYBUCKEYE's picture

He has an invite to elite 11. He has an OSU offer. I'll put my trust in Coach Meyer. And by the way watch the offers come pouring in. 

E2Brutus's picture

You know how your mom always said, "if you can't say anything nice dont say anything at all?"
In this case you should've listened to that advice.
sit back... Shut up... And let the big boys do their jobs.

Citrus's picture

Many seem to be forgetting it is June. It is true, more 5 stars work out than 3. However, players haven't really been properly evaluated by recruiting services until later in the year. We have already seen this happen with guys like Elam. Waycracken tells us that Saban told Elam he was the best DT he's seen and we laugh cause the kid is a 3-star. A few months later BAM, kid is high on all of the services' lists. Unfortunately, once committed, sometimes the services neglect revaluation. What matters is that Urbz took him in June after seeing him in person, and that his camp performances have earned him an elite 11 spot.

Bucks's picture

Well said!

buckeyedude's picture

@ --->SKID21
Dude. WTF? Did you watch his video? He looks legit to me. High ceiling and a good head on his shoulders.

 

 

SilverBulletNYC's picture

Kid can ball, that's for sure. 

The South will NOT rise again!

UrbanBuckeye's picture

2 solid commitments in 2 days with Jamarco potentially headed our way in 6 days. We are spoiled.

In Urban We Trust!

Basso Profondo's picture

His film looks solid to me, I'm on board.  Welcome to Buckeye Nation Mr. Collier!

CowCat's picture

Seems like he has great leadership skills!

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

GV9's picture

I agree on the leadership aspect.  CRITICALLY important in a quarterback!  Sounds like Collier has it.  

Nick's picture

Sounds like a great addition. It is hard not to like a kid that really wants the offer and commits on the spot when getting it. 

Braxton2Devin's picture

The difference between these 3-stars committing to OSU and most other 3-stars, is that these 3-stars are all under-the-radar guys. Every single one of these under-rated guys signed during the Meyer era have the potential to do great things at OSU. 

Buckidelphia's picture

An offer from Havard? What was this kids ACT score? Craig Krenzel Jr

YTOWNBUCKI's picture

This kid seems like a terrific person.  He gets it, completely.  You can definitely tell he's worked his tail off to get where he is and is proud of that.  The fact that he's a 3-star as of now, is irrelevant.  The coaching staff obviously likes the kid, and they're the top coaches in the nation.  Great article and yet another great add.

Buckeyeneer's picture

Dear Georgia,
Thanks for being a pipeline.
Sincerely,
Urban

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University

lljjgg's picture

That's one factor I think is worth mentioning, as well. Good to get guys from the center of the coaching staff's Southern recruiting hot spot (Georgia). Not just for this class, but for future classes (helps to have really successful guys from Georgia like Brad Roby and Cam Heyward who can serve as an example to other Georgians that it can be done at OSU).

Michael Citro's picture

Hope you guys really appreciate the way Jeremy and the rest of our recruiting guys are killing it. No one turns over the stones like our group. #ProudLikeAPapa

YTOWNBUCKI's picture

I still can't believe this site is free sometimes.  Greatest writers in sports.

Phillips.449's picture

SHHHHHH Don't tell them ;)

Firmthyfriendship's picture

I praise you and my employer curses you for how you've changed my daily routine. Never had I imagined a site like this existed. It actually took an out-of-towner buckeye to bring me here. Anyways, I cannot imagine the time you all spend and words cannot express how appreciative I am for 11w. You should be #ProudLikePapa. Keep it up!

BeijingBucks's picture

I just want to send a shout out to 11W for letting me enjoy sports journalism again and ending my yell-at-the-screen ESPN daily routine.  Feels good to be a Buckeye again and in such fine company.

 

 

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rampageripster's picture

Offer from Harvard? Good enough for me

Cause I couldn't go for three

Johnnycake's picture

Great story Birm...glad you got to break it and had his permission. Couldn't of happened to a better guy! Also glad that you kept the riff raff posts out of this thread. Looking forward to his intelligence and coachability.

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

Brandon Harris is a REALLY good quarterback. But he didn't get invited to the Elite 11. 

Stephen Collier did.

avail31678's picture

Thank you for the perspective, Jeremy.  Maybe I'll give some people the benefit of the doubt for now, and assume we've just been spoiled, but I'm not digging the negative reactions about this recruit. 
Y'all - he would not have been offered if Urban and Herman didn't want him. 
And I was almost in tears reading him say HE was in tears. 
WELCOME ABOARD STEPHEN!  GO BUCKS!

Poison nuts's picture

All my upvotes!

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

avail31678's picture

Thanks!
Fact is - some recruits will surprise us in a good way, some will disappoint.  But they're all Buckeyes, and this is a celebratory thread and a congratulatory one for Stephen.  I'm excited to see how each and every Buckeye leaves their mark at OSU.  And the words this guy uses - his attitude is great, so it's icing on the cake. 

Jdadams01's picture

Fat finger down vote. Curse them!

Paul's picture

Oh Yeah? But But But what about his offer list? And Star Rating, and Twitter Following? :)
Very Excited about Stephen Collier. You can't put a premium on a burning desire within to achieve greatness!
 
just my 3 cents....

There are winners and there are losers, and then there are "THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY"

FOOTBALL BUCKEYES!

OSU2002Grad's picture

Obviously the staff took their time to evaluate him and determined that he would be a great fit for the program. It would appear to me that this is a young man who is calm, confident, and strong-willed. His floor is Kenny Guiton. His ceiling? Yet to be determined.
Excellent addition to the program. Maybe not the splash some people were looking for, but definitely what the staff was looking for. And I think we'll all be proud of this young man during his time at Ohio State.

lljjgg's picture

Am I the only one who feels like people would have been making the same complaints about Kenny Guiton in the 2009 class? 3* with next to no pub, intelligent guy (Kenny had a 3.3 GPA, according to Gametime's video Collier has a 4.2), a coach on the sidelines, provides fantastic depth for OSU at the QB position.

Obviously we'd like every QB OSU takes to be a 5*, but you need intelligent, quality people (from what I can tell based on his interviews, and Jeremy's perspective) like Collier on the team. Same with your Dylan Thompson's, and with your Tim Gardner's last year. I see this as a big victory, don't think I'm being overly optimistic here.

TheGhostofWoody's picture

Big victory over who?  Boston College?

rampageripster's picture

you need to take a nice long timeout man

Cause I couldn't go for three

WhySoSerious's picture

He's been like this all day..

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

Gametime's picture

More like since he joined the site...Woody would be ashamed at the lack of enthusiasm this guy has for our beloved Buckeyes.
I'm honestly starting to believe he's a closet UM fan or just a general troll... =/
I haven't seen the dude say anything positive yet.

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

WhySoSerious's picture

I smell a troll....

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

cajunbuckeye's picture

You may be on to something.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

southbymidwest's picture

I bet that he's actually Bret Bielema. Bret can whiiiiiiiiiiine and be a Debbie Downer with the best of them.

Knarcisi's picture

Go open your own forum to bitch. Others want to celebrate the commitment. 

TheGhostofWoody's picture

Sorry, I guess I forgot this site only approves of one opinion.

Knarcisi's picture

My opinion is your opinion sucks. Buzz off. 

Gametime's picture

Sorry, I guess I forgot this site only approves of one opinion.

No, the posters of this site just don't approve of douchebags =/

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

cajunbuckeye's picture

I'm going to step out on a limb with a recruiting prediction. TheGhost won't make it to see another gray box.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

Hovenaut's picture

He's been dv into oblivion, it may soon be banhammer time.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Knarcisi's picture

When is that?  At -100?

Hovenaut's picture

Think so, but it should be busted out when trolling out on a Gray Box thread.

Not to mention pure narcissism since 6/13.

But I digress, this thread is about Stephen Collier....Buckeye quarterback.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Jason Priestas's picture

I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying. There's certainly a tactful way of expressing displeasure, like "I would rather have Harris, but maybe this guy is underrated. He was the Atlanta NFTC MVP, after all and has an invitation to Elite 11 in Oregon."

BengalErnst's picture

that's basically the way I will voice my opinion about our next commit.  Mclauren isn't my guy, not a fan but won't question urban and the staff. 

Nicholas l Ernst

skid21's picture

Although I'm one of those not jumping with joy over this commitment I did call ghost out earlier. He is most certainly a scUmmer. I OTOH am a diehard Buckeye who has some not too popular opinions on occasion.

Hovenaut's picture

I read you Skid, no worries.

It's one thing to offer an opinion, another to be dismissive of someone else's.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

WhySoSerious's picture

And honestly he shoudnt he's what you call a debbie downer.. Haters gone hate regardless.. My first day posting and we get a QB.. Should be Happy go root UK..

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

rdubs's picture

GhostofWoody, provide more real critique other than just pissing on everything and people won't think you are a troll.  If you notice that his arm strength isn't sufficient or if his feet aren't set when he throws, or he doesn't throw a tight spiral while on the run, then say something like that and people will take you seriously.  But just saying he doesn't have a high rating or good offers doesn't mean much, because he did get invited to Elite 11 when other higher rated QBs did, so he must be doing something right.
I don't know that much about this guy, but he seems like a good kid who will work hard and stay out of trouble and if his size numbers are anywhere near accurate he certainly has the ability and will to grow into a very good QB.  Is that as sexy as a 5* guy that has 90 offers?  Maybe not, but that doesn't mean he won't be a good player in a couple years.

SilverState's picture

Bro, we get it. You're unhappy with this offer/acceptance. Recruits occasionally read these things so please don't continue to bring down the positivity of this thread with your comments. I'm all for differing opinions, but if you can't say anything nice...

Right Again's picture

Dude, I think you might be happier on another site...

buckeyedude's picture

Exactly. Like Mgoblowg.

 

 

E2Brutus's picture

Hey dude! Eat a snickers! You get real moody when your hungry.

Crimson's picture

Not to mention, he looks like Betty White!  Now tackle him!

 

MN Buckeye's picture

Time for the ghost to go away.  Way to ruin a positive thread.

buckeyedude's picture

If I had the power, I would revoke your Buckeye Card, THEGHOSTOFWOODY.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think you're a Buckeye fan at all. Just some TTUN or ND troll.

 

 

LadyBuck's picture

Woody, eat a snickers bar. You're not you when you're hungry.

WhySoSerious's picture

This kid is big and runs with an attitude.. Arm strength looks pretty decent Welcome.. Elite 11 QB can't be mad @ it..

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

trasch_man's picture

This kid seems well-spoken and intelligent. Oh and I guess his game film isn't that bad either. Good for the young man and good for the Buckeyes, I'd rather have a kid that is jumping at the chance to come to Columbus than one that has to be persuaded and convinced. Give him a year to redshirt and a few years behind a *hopefully* successful JT Barrett and hopefully he can make a name for himself. I'm already impressed with his character though and I'm sure his stars will come up as he gets more offers. Best of luck to you, Stephen!

jamesrbrown322's picture

I think this was really more of a depth move, with one more year for Brax, and then passing the baton to a, hopefully, healthy Barrett in 2015. I really think the coaching staff sees this guy as primarily a backup/project like Guiton.
Also, I am not sure about his mechanics, as he looks like he "shot-puts" a lot of his passes. It wouldn't surprise me if the staff's intent is for Collier to be backup and then go all in on a big-time QB in 2015.
Just a guess though. I hope I am 100% wrong and this kid turns into a stud.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

lippertini's picture

I see it very similarly, except that they could be planning to totally revamp his throwing motion, and if it takes and he ends up with a good motion and quick release, then he could be a stud.  So instead of just assuming he'll be a backup, he'll have every opportunity to learn, progress and compete for the starting role.  Def seems to have everything else a QB needs to excel under Urban. 

BengalErnst's picture

I have no problem with some of our fans saying they are disappointed in a commitment.  After all it's their right to give their opinions towards our team.  As long as they don't bash the kid in doing so they have the right to give their opinion.
After all, when we get a three star guy who's under the radar, we always look at their offer sheet, in this case that doesn't help.
so then some of you say, just trust in urban, well then why follow recruiting at all?  Just watch the games on saturday and expect the incoming players to be the best we could have gotten.
to sum this up, everyone should be allowed to give their opinion and not be ridiculed as long as they aren't ridiculing someone else in the process.

Nicholas l Ernst

TheGhostofWoody's picture

Exactly.  It makes no sense to ohh and ahh over 4 and 5 stars, but ignore all the services and offers when they are 3 stars.  People just can't handle honest opinions.

BengalErnst's picture

I'm with you ghost, you weren't being disrespectful you were just giving your two cents. Thank you.

Nicholas l Ernst

Sauce Bauss's picture

When this clown is saying stuff like "big mistake by the staff IMO", yea I think he crossed the lie between giving his two cents and sounding disrespectful and rude. This young man just earned and accepted a scholarship offer many QB's dream of being offered. This should be a happy time not only for him and his family, but for us too. We are gaining a new member of the buckeye family, what's better than that? Look, Urban and the staff wouldn't offer (or allow a player to accept) a scholarship to any player, let alone QB, without doing their due diligence. Think about that before you call the staff dumb for offering and accepting this young mans commitment.

Knarcisi's picture

Opinions from a 5 star, know it all asshole, no. 

Poison nuts's picture

GhostofWoody, I have a simple question I'd like you to answer honestly... Who is your favorite college football team? 

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

buck-I.8's picture

Too late, HE GONE 

Jason Priestas's picture

I'm going to throw him/her a lifeline. Seems kind of silly to get banned for essentially just posting opinions that don't jive with the spirit of this thread. I don't know that anything he/she said was really offensive.

BengalErnst's picture

Idk ghost personally or follow his direct comments, but I appreciate you doin this Jason.  The guys a fellow buckeye that just has a slightly different opinion on one matter.  So what.

Nicholas l Ernst

Poison nuts's picture

While I didn't dv him, & agree about differing opinions, I am wondering if he's actually a fellow Buckeye. Not just because of this thread but others as well. If he's a Buckeye, he's a damn negative one who seems fairly interested in stirring up the sh*t...
 
 
 

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Ahh Saturday's picture

Every post he makes, in any thread, has the same negative tone. He's a troll, and I'm pretty sure he got down voted off this board before under another name.

cajunbuckeye's picture

The lifeline will be short lived. I hope it's phone a friend, because if it's ask the audience, he aint gonna make it. Jeremy asked to keep it upbeat earlier in the thread and his repeated comments just fueled the fire. Lack of class, maybe.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Not offensive but has definitely ramped up his trolling the last few days...
Guy is def looking for turds to burgle.

Jangs78's picture

Hawkisms will always get a vote up from me!

Cavluv23's picture

Man bruh .... After reading your posts the only thing that comes to mind is Kendrick Lamar  m.a.a.d city track two : bitch don't kill my vibe .... 

World travel is my passion spreading the word and grace of Ohio in every corner of the world . 

aboynamedtracy's picture

Seems to me vast majority of us ooh & ahh over all of our commits. You are the one making a distinction based on ratings.

rdubs's picture

But you didn't give much of an opinion.  You mentioned something about his offers, but that is really your only critique.  We were the first to offer Marshon Lattimore, should we have waited for ttun or Bama to offer before extending an offer?

BengalErnst's picture

I'm also a big fan of this commitment btw, preferred over Brandon Harris so dont jump all over me.

Nicholas l Ernst

dzig's picture

Well said BENGALERNST.  I've noticed a lot of horrible behavior focused at other OSU fans.  Come on people save the hate for the skunk weasels.  Open debate is good for everyone.  Fine to disagree but at least be polite to another Buckeye plz.

"all men are created equal, it's just that some are MORE equal than others"

buckeyedude's picture

Ohio State just offered him. That should be worth one or two *'s, don't you think, Bengalernst?

 

 

BengalErnst's picture

Not real sure why you're asking me?  Haha, I don't rank the guys by stars just by want or don't want.

Nicholas l Ernst

tae1986's picture
Darlington was never offered.
Kizer was never offered.
Barker was never offered.
Collier was. He accepted.

Exactly what Jeremy said! Everyone showing no love to this commitment, this kid is obviously higher on list for Urban and Co. then other kids that YOU were higher on but never got an offer from our coaches.
This kid can ball, trust our coaches and give him a chance.. Welcome to buckeyenation Stephen!!

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

Hovenaut's picture

F... the ratings, the stars, the "elite" camp invites, who was offered or not, and so on and so forth.

Let's celebrate who made the decision to become a Buckeye, and not lament over the ones who didn't.

For the record, I had hopes on Darlington. But I'm happy the way things have turned out.

Good things are going on, let's celebrate that.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Poison nuts's picture

Amen.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

GV9's picture

"Everyone showing no love to this commitment..."  
Really?  I see ONE guy showing no love, a couple on the fence respectfully, and the vast majority approving enthusiastically.  
Does there really need to be unanimous 100% agreement for every accepted offer here on 11W?
I don't agree with Ghost's sour take on this at all but I also don't like the idea that one can't express a contrary opinion without being attacked or threatened with banishment.   
If Stephen Collier even reads any of this (not likely), he isn't going to care what ghostofwoody thinks.  He already knows he has to prove himself and the doubters can only fuel his fire to do just that.    

andyb's picture

There is a big difference between disagreeing with an opinion and being a little prick throwing sarcasm and snark all over the place because you don't like a new recruit....you don't have to like every choice the staff makes or every offer they extend but Jesus..be a fucking adult about it!
 

If Stephen Collier even reads any of this (not likely)

Really?  See: EZE's family and Big Meechy....probably other that just don't post...11W is the best Buckeye site on the net. 

tae1986's picture

I didn't mean everyone is showing no love to this kid.. I meant to call out "everyone who's showing no love for this kid".. I guess I phrased it wrong but I know most of us are excited about this commitment...

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

Hovenaut's picture

I read you TAE.....and wasn't differing with your post, but merely reaffirming your point.

Just pissed the thread totally went off-grid,

I understand not everyone has to be enamored with Collier committing, but don't sour the occasion. Felt there were some ugly moments here last night.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Edincostarica's picture

I agree completely. Urban knows what he wants in a quarterback. I'm glad he is on board.

Braxton2Devin's picture

Stephen, if you're reading this right now, I hope you prove every single one of the commenters who believe that you're only a backup wrong. 

AJBor41's picture

GhostofWoody - Harris' tweet seems to indicate that he's not as angry as you about Collier's commitment 

BengalErnst's picture

What he tweet?

Nicholas l Ernst

WhySoSerious's picture

the ghostofwoody sounds like mark may...

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

buck-I.8's picture

I love this kid. He showed at the OSU camp that he's coachable, he worked with Urban directly, who was getting more and more excited every time he would run something because he just improved all the time. He's a great kid, he seems to have become an OSU fan before he even got offered, he accepted on the spot, and he's a great student and strong leader. I can't say enough good stuff about this kid, and we don't really even know that much about him yet. 

AndyVance's picture

ABSOLUTELY - and here's the truth that is escaping some of the Negative Nancys: a smart quarterback is often times at an advantage over a more athletic quarterback. Think about Craig Krenzel - the guy wasn't the most gifted signal caller we've ever had, but he was smart, and he made things happen.
Troy Smith - great athlete, but also played with his head, too.
Let's think of another analogy: if I gave you the choice between signing Peyton Manning and RGIII, who would you pick for your franchise quarterback? Manning is brilliant, and RGIII could probably run circles around him. My money's on Manning.
So if you're Urban Meyer, and you've got an obviously physically gifted QB with enough talent, an outstanding mental upside and an abundance of heart and desire to be a Buckeye, what's not to love??? There is not downside to this commitment.

southbymidwest's picture

Not trying to smack you Andy because I agree with you 99% of the time, BUT...living in the DC area, we hear a lot about RGIII-actually he is very, very smart. Graduated 7th in his HS class, graduated in 3 years from Baylor with a 3.67 in Poly Sci, and was working on his Masters in Communication his last year at Baylor (thank you wikipedia). So MY money might be on RGIII IF his knee is truly healed and he learns to not try and run out of trouble and get crushed by a DE on the way out of bounds.

AndyVance's picture

Thanks for pointing out the error of my thinking - I wasn't intentionally implying that RGIII wasn't smart, but now that I read myself, it comes off that way. Pick a less brilliant, more athletic quarterback and insert him into the analogy, and you get what I'm aiming at...
(And for what it's worth, while I know very little about RGIII, he seems like one of the most likeable guys in the league today, so don't take my bad analogy as meaning I don't like the guy :)

buck-I.8's picture

This may not be popular here, but Pryor is a tremendous athlete with a remedial wonderlic score so perhaps he would work in the analogy

AndyVance's picture

Perfect example, actually. I shudder to think of what Tressel might have done with him if Pryor would have had a little more on the ball. Always felt like he held him pretty close on the play calls because he didn't trust his intellect the way he would have with a similarly gifted Krenzel.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

He sure trusted it against Oregon and Arkansas.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

AndyVance's picture

You know what they say - there's an exception for every rule, right? And you're right, of course. Those two games were a thing of beauty, especially the dismantling of the Dippy Ducks.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I prefer the first half against Arkansas. That was the best i've ever seen Pryor play at Ohio State.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

PDoggett73's picture

I agree with the idea here, but I have to say, I think Krenzel was underrated as an athlete. I don't know why people discounted his ability to run. He made so many plays with his legs.
As for collier I hope this guy starts at some point, seems like a great kid from those quotes and the film looks great.

UrbanBuckeye's picture

Brandon Harris just tweeted that he's still considering us. Take it for what it's worth.

In Urban We Trust!

Nick's picture

Thats what was said but lets keep this thread about Collier!!

BengalErnst's picture

That is about collier still..

Nicholas l Ernst

buckeyedude's picture

Just my opinion, but I think Harris is just playin' the Buckeye fanbase. Happy with Collier. Time to move on.

 

 

willshire58's picture

The kid looks good to me. He has a tendency to under throw some balls when he doesn't step into it, but when he uses good form and steps into it the ball is on the money. He definitely has the athleticism and toughness to run the ball too. He will certainly help recruit Georgia for this cycle too.

WhySoSerious's picture

Lets Go B. Harris your still a wanted man..

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

UrbanBuckeye's picture

Can't hurt us in our recruitment of Raekwon McMillan, another Georgia guy.

In Urban We Trust!

SilverBulletNYC's picture

Troy Smith, just some ATH, was the last guy signed in his class. He turned out alright. I think we got a good one in Stephen Collier. 

The South will NOT rise again!

Alpo's picture

Well this was some unexpected but VERY welcome news after my softball game tonight! Welcome to the family Collier. Awesome!

Kevbo714's picture

Heck yeah! We got our QB!

Tom Crean listens to Nickelback...

bodast67's picture

This is also nice to see....

 

 

 

     " I hope when I die, I die laughing"...                

Bucks's picture

Impressive head on his shoulders and excited to have him commit. You don't read many interviews from kids his age that have this level of maturity/intelligence to them. I hope some of the negative ppl will be as quick to come and post as his stock rises in the next half year. It really is disturbing at times.
I trust the staff and also respect a kid who is challenged to do more and answers. He received a committable offer and that is absolutely fine by me.
Additional, I wish some of the people saying they prefer to wait a year and offer no QB would just take time to go through rosters of schools and understand skipping isn't a option. I'm quite glad they offered this young man.
 
 

cajunbuckeye's picture

I'm on board. I definitely like what I see, and what I hear about this young man. Congratulations to Stephen and welcome to the Buckeye Nation.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

d1145fresh's picture

Welcome to the family 

d1145fresh's picture

I don't know how that applies but it was the funniest thing I saw all day. 

Poison nuts's picture

I just got a chuckle out of it too.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

pjtobin's picture

Great gif. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

pjtobin's picture

Sweet! Welcome to OSU young man. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

hcazualcc's picture

this is our guy IMO - not worried about brandon harris.  gut instinct tells me that all the other schools are picking up "their guy" and not b harris for a reason.

Gobucks2204's picture

ESPN shrunk him to 6' 3" : I hate them!

Maestro's picture

What I like the best is that even as a junior he holds onto the ball long enough to let the receivers get well into their routes. He obviously has the athleticism to tuck the ball and run, but he waits for the play to develop and hits his receivers in stride.  There are plenty of plays on that film that could have been nice runs but were bigger plays because he threw a strike to a receiver in stride. Looks to have great vision and grasp of the offense.

vacuuming sucks

Jhesse17's picture

People downvoting woody need to take a peek at the downvoting rules. Just because you disagree with him doesn't give you the right to DV them.

skid21's picture

How about the fact he has been an obvious troll?

Jason Priestas's picture

This. All it is is someone thinking Ohio State should have taken another quarterback. I'm sure 95% of you disagree with that sentiment, but it's not like he/she is doing anything other than providing a differing opinion to what most on here feel.

buckatron32's picture

While down for differing opinions usually irritates the hell out of me, I think it was warranted in this case. I didn't downvote him but I can't blame those that did. This thread is meant to celebrate the addition of a player to this class, one from what I can tell seems like an exceptional young man that is a hard worker and wanted to be a Buckeye. Making one post that he's not excited would be ok. Constantly posting on a thread the player very well might be reading questioning his talents and the coaching staff is guaranteed to get you downvoted into oblivion, especially the way he was doing it. 
That said, I am happy you threw him a lifeline. Hopefully, he isn't a troll. 
 

PharmBuck's picture

It's one thing to post an opinion that isn't popular. It's entirely another to be an arrogant douche about it.

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."

avail31678's picture

I disagree (respectfully).  He doesn't say things like "I really wanted Harris" or offer specific criticisms of, say, his highlight film - he says things like "a victory over who?  Boston College?" and "huge mistake by the staff"
Definitely need multiple opinions on here.  But I really feel this is disrespectful of Stephen.  In fact there were other people who actually said, nicely, "This guy might only be a backup, but welcome aboard Stephen!"
 

BlueBayou's picture

Good of you to throw them a lifeline.  There is obviously a place for differing opinions on here, but this person should have known when to quit.  Hopefully they learn from this and only give their opinion once.  

jkrk's picture

My DVs for him came from the fact that I asked him to back up his opinion based on the film and he just trolled back. He could've replied that he just doesn't like 3*s in general, or actually responded with some critique of the film, but instead I got "why don't you ask every other program that didn't offer him?" Dude's trolling.

LadyBuck's picture

I appreciate the fact that you threw him a lifeline, and personally did not down vote him. However, his comments were less than respectful and never provided any sort of logical or intellectual backing. Even if he said that he had a gut feeling that this was not going to turn out well, that's something I can understand and accept.
He was being blatantly disrespectful of the staff and opinions of other posters. You have to earn respect. There are plenty of people who post contrary opinions, but are respected due to how they go about it.

Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Differing opinions is one thing.  Demonstrating an arrogance that you know more than the coaching staff is another.  I down voted that attitude.  I hated it when John Cooper was the coach    I hated it when the airplane flew over the shoe towing a sign that said:
"Oh Come lets sing Ohio's praise
And say goodbye to Woody Hayes."
 
And I hate it now.  Its asinine all the time.

On the wall guarding the North Coast from all Weasel invasions.

Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Differing opinions is one thing.  Demonstrating an arrogance that you know more than the coaching staff is another.  I down voted that attitude.  I hated it when John Cooper was the coach    I hated it when the airplane flew over the shoe towing a sign that said:
"Oh Come lets sing Ohio's praise
And say goodbye to Woody Hayes."
 
And I hate it now.  Its asinine all the time.

On the wall guarding the North Coast from all Weasel invasions.

Crimson's picture

Wonderful news.  Welcome to the Bucks Stephen!  Time to . . .
Also, where's the gray box?

UncleBuck's picture

Seems like the complete package.

pjtobin's picture

Did you make this?

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

No, but I know who did.

 

(Hint: it's me.)

Max Power's picture

not qb prospects but aj hawk and nick mangold werent highly touted either...nor was the lil animal james lauranitis. the staff knows more than rivals or 247. have faith. our chances werent exactly ideal with brandon harris. im happy to see this kid joining the good guys. welcome to buckeye nation mr. collier

TheBadOwl's picture

Johnny Manziel was also a 3*, and I think Mariota was too. Now they're two of the best spread quarterbacks in the country.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

dzig's picture

Can we all please concede the point that we KNOW Manziel was a 3*.  I hope to hell and all things holy that Collier has a fantastic career at tOSU, but outside of J-Football winning a heisman, I prefer the mention and comparisons of them in the same sentence ends there.  Manziel as a person, understandably still a very young person , has lots of maturing and growing up to do.  I hope Collier is way ahead at this point already. 
I love that fact that Stephen Collier is intelligent, humble and open to good coaching.  The fact that he's well spoken on top of all that is a hell of a bonus as well.  I hope he has greater success on the field than Manziel, but off the field I truly hope he's nothing like him.  Please let the comparisons end there...

"all men are created equal, it's just that some are MORE equal than others"

gbdawg's picture

In Urban I trust

Phillips.449's picture

Hey Jeremy,
Is it possible that in the wake of all of the excitement you forgot to turn on the "gray box" effect for this particular announcement?  I would just hate to have the clientele of the fine establishment that is 11W. miss out on a chance to see a good version of one of these:

BuckeyeTrack10's picture

Incredible potential from this kid. Wouldn't be shocked if he left Ohio State as one of the best ever. Gonna be a helluva trip!

pcuzz1's picture

Dude looks like a stud! Also, he has shown he will work for what he wants! I strongly believe this us our guy

pat cozzens

Clown Baby's picture

Couldn't be more happy. A kid who worked his ass off to get an OSU scholarship and nearly cried when he EARNED it? And people are questioning it? Watch the tape, or better yet take one of The best coaches in the business' word for it. We just got a lot better. It's a celebration!

Jason Priestas's picture

Gray boxes are for rapid reaction to commitment news (and sometimes, bad news). When we have time to talk to a prospect and get the background and quotes, he will get the full story treatment.

I get your spirit, though. I do.

Citrus's picture

That makes sense. However, the expectation from the fan perspective is gray box for commits. Its sorta the 11w brand. Embrace it. Please, gray box it.

tae1986's picture

I want to see this story gets gray boxed too!! It just feel ain't the same without it.

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

CALPOPPY's picture

But didn't we also expect gray boxes for all the bad news, too. During the Tat-gate crap, gray boxes were poppin' up everywhere where nobody wanted to see a gray box. 
I actually don't really notice the box color. Not sure why, either. I'm not color-blind and can really notice details but I just don't catch it. So I didn't notice the lack of gray box until it was brought up. I don't know...maybe my brain suffered trauma from the Tat-gate stuff and is not seeing gray boxes when they are there.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

NO OSU fan should underrate this young man. Johnny Manziel was a 3-star recruit with Rivals and Scout. Look how he turned out. Won a Heisman. I am speaking only about his football talent here, not his personality and maturity problems.

buck-I.8's picture

Even if you think the "trust the staff" argument is tired, this is a kid that Trent Dilfer saw and got to coach and said out of this years Elite 11 class, this kid looks like a future NFL QB. If anyone can name a single scouting service analyst or 11w forum user that knows more than Dilfer about making it to the NFL as a QB, then I'll back off my opinion, but otherwise, I'll leave analysis to the true experts and realize that the whole armchair coach deal looks pretty foolish.

ODEEZ330's picture

So 8-12 commits have been invited to oregon by nike!!!!! NICE go bucks excited for this kid

O'Deez330
stark county football

brandonbauer87's picture

I've been critical of the other QB's that we've offered. Collier has the best throwing motion in my opinion. He's very compact and smooth. If there's a part of his game that needs work from his highlights, it's the read option. He has Braxton's move figured out. Make the wrong read and bust it open for a big gain. 

RunEddieRun1983's picture

I think the "trust the staff" thing is stupid.  If Americans just "trusted" who their governing party was back in 1770 we'd all have British accents and be cheering for soccer players.
That said if you actually do you homework on this kid, watch his film and read his interviews, he's got a head on his shoulders, and he is a student of the game.  He's not a commit I jump for joy over because I feel his commitment puts a bit of a damper on the odds of getting players I had a preference for, but at the same time I think he could be a good addition.  He's coachable, he's smart, and he has ability.
It's one of those things where if three years from now Brandon Harris is a heisman finalist, and Collier is a 2nd or 3rd string QB for the Buckeyes people will shake their heads.  On the other hand if Harris ends up being forgettable, and Collier turns into a Buckeye starter and wins some big games and has a solid career, people will forget the criticism they heaped on the coaching staff for taking him.
Either way with Miller, Barrett, and Jones on the squad already, plus whatever QBs we take over the next two seasons, this team is going to be fine.  Collier could end up being a diamond in the ruff, and be a great player.

I don't always downvote, but I do always downvote a Michigan fan trolling the Buckeye boards.

William's picture

I think the "trust the staff" thing is stupid.  If Americans just "trusted" who their governing party was back in 1770 we'd all have British accents and be cheering for soccer players.

 

For those that don't know what a strawman argument is, here it is. 

AndyVance's picture

Yeah, there's really not a lot about that analogy that works on any level of rhetoric. Good call William.

lippertini's picture

I support the staff and am happy to have Collier's commitment, but I actually DO think RunEddie's logic has merit, exaggerated though it may be. 
I don't think we should blindly assume that any decision Urban and staff make is going to be the right one.  Of course, it's beyond safe to assume that they will do an infinitely better job than any of us overall, but they will of course make mistakes, and some of us will probably even notice some of those mistakes and comment on them.  Plus, what fun would it be to talk about this stuff if we never got to try and second-guess the staff?
Avoiding the Tressel example so people don't fire-bomb my house, let's remember how blindly loyal and out of touch with reality Penn St. students were when that all went down.  I'd just like to agree that we shouldn't get too caught up in total blind reverence for any human being.
...and congrats and welcome aboard Stephen!

AndyVance's picture

There is a point to be made, but I think many of us are operating under the assumption (heretofore supported by empirical evidence) that if the staff recruits a player, they have a very good reason for doing so, and therefore by extension if they extend and accept an offer, they have a specific role in mind for that player to fill. Ergo, it's not blindly following the staff off a cliff, but assuming that we don't know everything that goes on in the minds of the field generals leading our team, and instead trusting that they've got a pretty good idea of what they're doing.
(The corollary, btw, is also true: if the staff does not recruit a player or extend an offer, there is a reason for that, too.)

Jason Priestas's picture

Eh, I don't know. I'm not willing to admit that I know more about talent evaluation than Urban Meyer and his staff. Is anyone else?

steensn's picture

I can judge a recruit by the way they type their 's.' 

Oldschoolbuck's picture

BAM! That pretty well sums it up, Jason!

argyle182021's picture

I do 'trust the staff'.  I admit that I have decidedly less football acumen than a group of people paid hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars yearly to spend nearly every waking moment 'doing their own homework'.  Why trust the advice of a doctor?  Just 'do your homework' and diagnose it yourself.  Of course doctors make mistakes.  And so do football coaches.  Maybe this young man will be a great QB at Ohio State.  Maybe not.  I'll let him decide that for himself.  I do know that I like how excited he is to have earned a scholarship offer.  He set a lofty goal and achieved it.  Regardless of how his career at OSU ends up, he'll be quite successful in life with that attitude and work ethic.  

RunEddieRun1983's picture

It's really easy to criticize when you only read the first sentence of a post.  Overall I feel what I posted was positive so you really should look through all the context.

I don't always downvote, but I do always downvote a Michigan fan trolling the Buckeye boards.

tae1986's picture

I understand where you are coming from. You need a devils advocate but to me, staff earned my trust with their achievements on and off field.

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

1stYrBuckIClub's picture

I don't know about the rest of you guys (some have been a bit negative), but I'm really excited about this commit. Why? Look at the kids attitude. Some of these recruits think they're entitled to a starting spot. Not at tOSU. You better work for it, and if you have the right attitude and work ethic, you'll earn it. I'll admit I had some guys higher on my 'want' list (Deshaun Watston, Brandon Harris, and Kyle Allen), but I had Collier higher than that Arkansas commit and yes, even Darlington. He has tools that can't be learned (size), and have confidence in our staff to devolop his potential. Welcome to the family Stephen!

dubjayfootball90's picture

Not going to lie: drank a few ipa's and I am a little tipsy. The fact of the matter is, reading this kids responses is just unbelievable. He sounds like a man and it seems like he is extremely humble. This is the kind of kid you can build a program around. Awesome news.welcome mr. Collier. I love this damn team....

gumtape's picture

I for one am really glad that the grownups who run this site pipe in every once in a while to keep the inmates from getting too crazy. You don't see that to the same degree at other places.
Decision making and accuracy are the most important attributes for a quarterback to posses. They are also ones that can be coached to a certain degree.
How good would Kenny Guiton be if he didn't spend his first three years on the scout team with a video coordinator as his position coach? Or if he was put into the Nebraska game in 2011 after Braxton got hurt?
I am also glad that the QB recruiting is done and we can move on to more important commitments like a starting Left tackle.

just another psycho, irrational, delusional Ohio St fan

urbanwarfare's picture

too many times we get excited about a 5 star that has settled on is high school fame and forget about the 2 to 3 stars that have a chip on their shoulder that will work to their whole potential. I am giddy over this kid.

bodast67's picture


 
This guy has the balls to say he questions the coaching staff on their decisions....

 

 

 

     " I hope when I die, I die laughing"...                

pjtobin's picture

What the hell is this? I had to study it before I found his legs.  

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

Jordan Wagner's picture

First I would like to congratulate Stephen Collier on getting an offer from The Ohio State University and accepting on the spot. Welcome to Buckeyenation! The kid is a class act, Very mature. He came to Columbus and earned an offer. I love that. 

To the discussion about Collier's lack of offers and star rating:

I'm going to take Urban Meyer and Tom Herman's opinion over any recruiting analyst including myself. I'm not saying we cannot or should not discuss (sometimes criticize) the coaching staffs moves. 

Quick Poll: Who is a better evaluator of talent? 

A. Urban Meyer/Tom Herman

B. Person who does 247Sports rankings

C. Person who does Scout.com rankings

D. Person who does ESPN's rankings. 

 

timtom's picture

I think I would have to say the answer would be A .  The other three earn their living by their evaluations, but don't get fired when they are wrong.  Any coach that make mistakes on talent evaluation will not win games, and when you don't win games, you are looking for a job.  How many times has Coach Meyer been fired ?  I think if the staff felt the kid is good enough to be offered, we should all be extremely happy.  Welcome home Stephen....

timtom

Jordan Wagner's picture

Not sure why you were downvoted for saying this. Agree completely. 

No real pressure on these recruiting guys to get it right. It just amazes me that people put so much stock stock into these rankings. I'd be much more interested in the rankings if they were done by a group of coaches like Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Will Muschamp, Brian Kelly, and Les Miles. 

hcazualcc's picture

i dunno, tom loog the doouche at espn is good

Lon_Paul's picture

SUPER excited for this kid! Guys with that combination of Size and Athleticism are a rarity.  I have a feeling this guy is gonna blow up in the recruiting world imminently.  Welcome to Buckeye Nation, Stephen!  Can't wait to see what you're gonna accomplish in the Scarlet and Gray! 

osubuck57's picture

Welcome aboard Stephen!! Glad your a part of Buckeye Nation!! You certainly earned it!!

SCOTTC.

Will in Arizona's picture

Just watched his Youtube video.  Unless it's not indicative of his true talent, he seems more Kenny Guiton than Terrelle Pryor.  Straight line runner without Pryor's top end speed, below average arm.
 
Hopefully I'll be proven wrong in the long run.

gumtape's picture

Kenny g has done really well in his limited oportunities and would be much better if the quality of his coaching during his first three years was the same level as it is now.
i trust herman and meyer to do a better job than bollman and siciliano.

just another psycho, irrational, delusional Ohio St fan

2002osubuck's picture

I know its late but how drunk are you? Collier's arm looks as good as pryor's his junior yr of college. When Collier outperforms alot of the guys at the elite 11 and his rating skyrocket what will be your excuse next, he doesn't look as good as Troy smith?

Will in Arizona's picture

Sorry, I don't get notifications when people respond to me - wonder if that's a setting somewhere.
 
Pryor's arm didn't jump off at me either, although his size, strength and speed as a runner did.  Collier is no where near Pryor the runner, and if the compliment is that he's Pryor the passer, well that says a lot.  Braxton Miller has a much stronger arm than either of these guys, and is a more dynamic runner (although not as big and fast as Pryor) - just as a comparison.
 
I've only seen the kid in the linked Youtube video.  Maybe his passing becomes better or maybe it doesn't do his speed justice.

rdubs's picture

This is a real critique that GhostofWoody could have offered and not been downvoted into oblivion...

jkrk's picture

A little more info here:
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/college-recruiting/2013/jun/21/stephen-collie...
According to Collier, Alabama, Auburn, and Florida State wanted to see him throw, but he's shutting his recruitment down. Maybe true, maybe not, but based on what Jeremy has said here, it doesn't seem like he'd just make something like that up.

tae1986's picture

After good showing in camps and invite to The Opening I'm sure other teams want to check out this kid. I'm just glad he is shutting down his recruitment. More time to focus on his game!!

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

buckskin's picture

Welcome to OSU Mr. Collier, you sound like a young man with a good head on your shoulders.  There are only two coaching staffs in college football that I will never question as talent evaluators and we are blessed and fortunate to have one of them (yea, I admit it, I check and see if Little Nicky has offered a kid we are looking at).  
I would absolutely love to see this young man's name mentioned in the same breath as former three stars at OSU who ended up being great players;  Hawk, Laurinitis, Roby, Big Hank, Jenkins, Collier.  Yeah, I can picture myself saying this in five years.
 
 

Sin City Buckeye's picture

Is there a difference between Viper and Leo? "No, we just thought Viper sounded cooler."---Former Buckeye Coach Mike Vrabel

Codeezy's picture

Kind of says it all right there. Any program in the country would give this kid a look but we were the first to offer! The staff is excited about this kid, and so am I. Maybe he will come in with a chip on his shoulder and he will running over DBs from the SEC in a few years, for crystal balls.
 
Welcome to the family SC!

2002osubuck's picture

First off welcome aboard stephen! All the talk made me think, last year there was a kid at the elite 11, Ashanti Woolard (sp) that no one knew and he ended up winning or was the most impressive if my memory serves me right. Not to mention, about this same time last year, we got a commit from a 3star Elliott and all he did was end up a top 100 player. Stars are for us fans to brag about, promoting classes and making some people serious $ that's about it. Collier looks to be as good as anyone I've watched this year, maybe not the #s Watson had, but lets see what happens when Collier competes at the elite 11. Again welcome aboard Stephen! Your a class act and your right you have, most important, all the intangibles plus talent keep working hard. Can't wait to see you in S&G.

highwire's picture

I haven't been around much recently, but I had to stop by and say that I'm really excited for the last two commitments. Stephen seems like a very bright guy, and I can't wait to see him in Scarlet & Gray. Also, users like ghostofwoody or whatever the hell his name is are bad for our fanbase, and for recruiting. Negative, whiny bullshit posts are a deterrent to recruits and their parents. Stop.

TheBadOwl's picture

Remember, Brandon Harris was a 3-star until he showed up at a few camps. I love Collier's highlight tape, kid is an absolute stud and seems like a great guy. Smart kid, works hard, and plays with a definite chip on his shoulder. I'm REALLY excited about this commitment.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

BuckeyeUte's picture

Welcome aboard!!! I don't post much but get excited to see the talent urban and staff are bringing in! I think this kid is better than 3*... And a great pick up! 

DallasTheologian's picture

Be excited for every commit. There is way too much bad in life to be upset by something this awesome.

Braxton2Devin's picture

I was sold on this guy after TRENT DILFER said Collier had the potential to be an NFL QB.

TheBadOwl's picture

That's huge. He's worked and thrown for Dilfer and Urban and Tom Herman and they all agree that the kid is special. I trust that over the recruiting analysts who watch a kid a few times on highlight tapes and maybe goes to a camp and watches from a distance. 

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Why isn't this a Gray box?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

buckeyeblur5's picture

Kid has solid arm strength, good speed, and a tough running style.  Average cutting ability, looks like it takes him an extra half step to get a solid change of direction.  His hips are great in the pocket but his throwing mechanics and follow through need some work.
When he does everything mechanically correct with his body weight he can throw darts. (1:00 and 2:38 in the highlight tape)
Sometimes his body weight drifts off to the side instead of propelling the ball down the field.  This leads to a drop in velocity giving good defenders more time to close.  Go watch youtube highlights of Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, even Braxton Miller.  When they have time to set their feet they are driving their body down the field with their back foot, not drifting off to the side.  (Watch Collier's throws at 1:13 and 1:24 to see this drifting leading to a velocity drop.  It's a slight difference and means next to nothing in high school but it's one of the differences between average and great in college.)
Everything from the waist up seems to be good when he is running or throwing.  He may still be growing into his boy so the hiccups in his lower body mechanics may go away as he gets more coordinated naturally.
Lets also remember that this is a Junior highlight tape.  This kid will have a couple of years of improvement/coaching before he sees the field as a Buckeye.  He is not there yet, but with the right mindset, he could definitely develop into something special.
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SGTBuckeye83's picture

^this^ and.....
Did anybody else notice kids got serious scrambling skills. Better pocket awareness than BM. Not as elusive but when you are that big you don't have to be. And this kids oline kinda sucks. At least one defender getting pressure every time. When he has an oline that gives him time to have mechanics I think he will be really good if not great. And he sounds like he will be a sponge with teaching. Also can we get a couple of his receivers? I mean I know it's a highlight tape but they were certainly doing their part to make him look good.

Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.

Oldschoolbuck's picture

He WANTS to play for tOSU, to the point he's "fighting back tears" at the offer; he's a phenomenal physical specimen who will continue to grow (especially when Mickey gets hold of him); sounds like a "team-first" leader who is willing to shoulder the responsibility for success OR failure; apparently has a great work ethic; sounds like he comes from a great family; and, oh yeah, UFM (who probably knows a SMIDGE more than we do about what to look for in a QB) just offered him a scholly... What's not to like?

d1145fresh's picture

Here is my issue with some of the post in this thread (small rant coming), THIS KID IS A BUCKEYE. He might not of been you're first choice or even your second. However, if you read the story posted by Jeremy (Who is crushing it in stuff lately) the kid worked his ass off to get an offer and accomplished that goal. That idea of "The Chase" for the personal goal that you strive for is Urban's big message this year. Stephen accomplished his first "Chase" of his Buckeye career and for that we should all be proud of the kid who is becoming apart of Buckeye Nation. 
Secondly, this kid is a stud. I don't care what your ranking is, if you make it to the finals of the Elite 11 competition you are one of the top QBs in this class. Sure, there are other QBs who will go on to have great careers who where not invited (Harris) but it is very likely that an Elite 11 QB will do pretty well in his college career and has the skills to do so. 
Third, I don't get the downvotes of people stating their opinion on a matter. Is it the time or place? Maybe... maybe not. As I said in earlier, this kid just joined Buckeye Nation and we should be happy for that, however I can understand voicing your opinion (something we all do on here) on the matter, should not result in being banned. 
Finally, watch this kids film and the Elite 11 competition. He will be the starting QB for Ohio State in the years to come and he will be very good. Early Prediction: He will QB 2 National Championship teams.... then I also predict that we will not lose another game for 8-10 years. So there is that.  

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Awesome coverage and great news indeed.  Thanks for the hard work and thanks for giving us a reason to celebrate.
I look forward to watching him.  I like his size, but I love his GPA!!!  The QB position is so mentally demanding and he's got all the prerequisites to fill this need.  He should have every opportunity to reach his ceiling at OSU with their staff and facilities.  Are there higher rated QBs?  Absolutely.  Have recruits with his rating turned out to be all americans and top picks?  Absolutely.  So while statistics (based on current ratings, which easily could change!) say that the other higher rated recruits have better percentages of making an impact and playing at the next level, let's not ignore the fact that these same statistics show that players rated like him also turn out to be great.  
Welcome to the family, Stephen!

steensn's picture

For all you whiners out there, I too said I'd like Harris over Collier. But guess what... That doesn't make Collier no good, we didn't have Harris to begin with. Glad to see a QB come on board, he's worthy of an OSU offer and he'll be a 4 star when it is all said and done. Welcome aboard Collier.

Bucks's picture

I know some people were screaming for the box-o-grey last night (myself included). That was until I realized this seemed to be a 11w exclusive. Jason described above why this got the full article treatment instead of rapid reaction box.
Job well done everyone. Especially our recruiting guys. Killing it out there. Although, after yesterday I would assume Jeremy is curled up in a ball snoozing with a Tylenol PM in system ;)

jaybuckeye16's picture

In urban I trust for sure. But why are people saying Harris was a long shot? He is very pro OSU on twitter and always rocking a buckeye twitter pic and wearing buckeye colors. Seemed to me like an OSU lean from his account. Don't get that. Never says anything about LSU on there. Isn't that really the only school he's choosing from besides us? But I trust urban and this guy seems like a great kid. Maybe the Kenny G to Harris? I mean you still go after the #1 duel threat QB for our offense right? 

Jay16

Squirrel Master's picture

Yeah, I don't agree with the long shot. I think its just an attempt to make an excuse for Collier. I think that is wrong.
Harris probably would have been a buckeye but to me, I'll take Collier all the same. I think when you are talking about the best of 1000 possible candidates, there is little difference between where Harris is at and Collier. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if at the end they are very closely rated.
I say Collier jumped on it first, Harris will be kicking himself a bit for taking his time (although i think he will end up fine). That is all. Collier is a qualifed applicant and really from this point on, it will be more on Herman and Urban to make him a college starting QB. Whether it was Harris or someone else, they still need to be coached up coming in. 
I said it early this year, unless its Watson, I don't see any of these QBs coming in and immediately getting the nod over JT. So whether it was Harris or anyone, they still would have to compete with the other veterans. I think Collier has the skill, lets see if he can challenge JT!
or another way to think of all of this is JT, Jones and Collier could just be filling and the next stud starter (maybe a 5* for those who desire) will be coming next year, the year after Braxton is a senior and gone. Who knows but Collier is good enough to get a shot!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Squirrel Master's picture

This was definitely not a grey box situation. although the heading of #12 would have been nice. Either way, I'll take the great news!
To me, this kid is 1 of 10 qualified applicants. Is he better than Harris or Watson or Barker? Who knows. but I know he is qualified and skilled enough to do the job. He is 1 of a select few (there are over 1000 starting QBs in the nation right?) that made the call. 
I will also like to add, to all the Chicken Littles out there, that is 2 recruits in 2 days. 1 a highly ranked 4* DE and the other a possible starting QB. I am one who likes the start ratings but at some positions I don't really care. At QB, I take the position of Urban's choice. At OL, I would prefer a 5* because I know they are more ready to come in immediately. Difference to me.
with that said,
WELCOME STEPHEN! YOU ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND CAN'T WAIT TO ROOT FOR YOU! NOW GO OUT THERE AND RECRUIT FOR THE GOOD GUYS AND BE A LEADER! GO JOIN TROUT AND WEBB AND GET YOU SOME WEAPONS!
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I do believe everyone in the '14 class has received a Gray box.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Squirrel Master's picture

did you read above? this was an exclusive by the writer. Gray boxes are for instant notification.
Not saying a gray box wouldn't have been nice, just saying there was a reason and its valid.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

CALPOPPY's picture

I think you're coming dangerously close to the line of being called a spectrumist. I personally don't see gray or white boxes, they are just all boxes to me. Maybe if we all just see the boxes for being boxes, and not gray, white, or black, we'd get along better around here.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

pjtobin's picture

I laughed at this. Great humor, my friend. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

gumtape's picture

If you have 1000 helmet stickers the collier announcement comes as a grey box.

just another psycho, irrational, delusional Ohio St fan

CALPOPPY's picture

Aha!

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

AllDay028's picture

The funny thing about all this "only a 3 star" talk is that a guy with an Opening invite is almost definitely going to climb much higher in the rankings anyways. Like EZE last year, I guess this guy makes a big jump anyways.

Squirrel Master's picture

nevermind. Elite11 is an The Opening portion. Just read up on it.
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

tae1986's picture

Jeremy or others, if Brandon Harris still wants in would staff take 2 QBs in this class?
I know it seems like we don't have much room but I don't think you can never have too much depth and quality in QB position. Let them battle and grow!!

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

Squirrel Master's picture

it was said above that if Harris wanted to commit to OSU, they wouldn't say no. So I think they would be open to taking both but might be more pickier about the 2nd. Maybe Harris or no one else.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

nickma71's picture

They get the most out of their players because they do a really good job of mixing a demanding yet nurturing atmosphere...I knew that I wanted to play for Coach Meyer because as great as I personally know I want to be, he makes me want to be even greater."

 
I hope he means what he said. Because he sure as hell said the right things, and it wasn't some "me me me" talk. That is an excellent non-entitlement attitude needed to win.

bassplayer7770's picture

Stephen is clearly proving himself to our staff and at the Elite 11.  The staff wanted him, and that's all I need to know.  He sounds like a great kid, and I'm happy he's on board.  He's one of eight 2014 commits who will be at The Opening.

Mr. Slick's picture

"Last year, I had to beat the returning starter out, a senior, for the starting job. I've never been so concerned with rankings and stars and all that because those things are superficial, but I know why they matter to fans," he continued. "Ratings can't judge work ethic, character, and the will to succeed, and that it seems to me is far more important thing. The priority for me was uniting my team in order to make this year one of the best in school history. We fell short last year and I take responsibility for that, so the focus was — and is — striving for greatness as a team. I knew if I did the right things offers would come."
 
I want the guy who said THIS on my team. EVERYDAY. 

cajunbuckeye's picture

Urban Meyers and Tom Herman will develop Stephen Collier into a Colin Kaepernick type QB. That's right, I said it. Watch the story unfold right here, in real time, on 11W.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

i actually agree. that is one of the teams they visited during the offseason and came away with a bunch of ideas and impressed

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Northbrook's picture

Jeremy, great article about a great kid but you still owe us a gray box.

CALPOPPY's picture

spectrumist!

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

jestertcf's picture

~Because we couldn't go for three~

CowCat's picture

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

completely unexpected, but completely welcomed. Seems like an absolute stud. O-H!

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Sorry I'm late to the party....

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

MN Buckeye's picture

Welcome, Stephen Collier!

Gobucks2204's picture

He is already recruiting Terry McLaurin right after committing. What a go getter!
 
"@TheTerry_25 come join me man! Be great!" Stephen Collier

Ohio State Ombre's picture

kinda sad to see anyone ragging on this kid. i can see in the tape he is a bit raw...but man can this kid run. love that he is never taken down by an arm tackle, loves contact, and is always running north/south. very different style from braxton and jt, could be a great 2 qb system down the road after braxton is gone. i think this kid is a great pickup and as everyone has stated, you cant go wrong with a 5* PERSON with the physical tools to be successful

3technique's picture

I love this kid! Great work ethic and attitude.. I also like the Trent Dilfer quote.. When I watched his film I thought the same thing(49s QB, not gonna type it because I have no idea how to spell it) Can you imagine what this kid will look like in three years? I say 6'5'', 240, with enough speed that you just have to get him in the game. I think he comes here and earns PT after XBRAX leaves. I could see a 2 qb system with him and Barret(sp).. He was made for the spread. He obviously impressed the staff in person. Sometimes film is not enough. I see him blowing up and becoming a four star before it is all said and done. He has long strides like TP and he seems to care about his teammates.. Welcome to the family young man!

Gobucks2204's picture

Collier jumped us a spot to 7th on Scout, leapfrogging Kentucky:)

Gobucks2204's picture

Collier will get a 4th star after it is all said and done.

Northbrook's picture

The kid is already a Five Star Field Marshal in my eyes.

Aesculus.'s picture

Dont' know if anyone has mentioned this, but Collier would make the perfect backup QB if he doesn't pan out.  Yes I know his upside is high, just sayin...
Here are the list of the past Elite 11....check out who make it from OSU in 2001!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_RISE_Elite_11#2005

11/8/2014 @Michigan State aka Payback

Gobucks2204's picture

Troy Smith and Justin Zwick! So much for star ratings!

Crimson's picture

To me, Stephen looks pretty good throwing, but he doesn't have the best arm (read: accuracy) in the class, which probably goes to Allen.  Sometimes the throws are behind, but I think he throws just as well as Darlington/Harris, so I'm not worried that he won't improve.
There's a lot of things I like about him.  He looks good on designed/read runs, and he's the only one I'm impressed by his mobility to keep the play alive and still look for the pass like Allen does.  Obviously, he runs better than Allen does.  I don't know how fast he is, probably not as fast as Darlington is reported to be, but he has a lot of upside.  I don't think anyone else I've seen has had a combination of being able to make most throws, run well, and be mobile enough to keep the play alive and still make the throw.  I'm pretty excited about him, and I'm not referring to his backup potential, which the staff would not accept if that was the case.
The "3 *'s sometimes pan out" argument is fine, but I think calling him a 3 * now is premature, as a few have pointed out.  Stephen is a first year starter, and he is just starting to do camps.  He's easily going to be a 4 * by the end of his senior year, which is the only time these ratings matter, if you subscribe to the belief that stars matter.  Also, I think he looks good on film, and the staff is saying he looks even better a few months later, in person.  If that doesn't tell you anything, then you probably don't have the stomach to follow recruiting.
Disclaimer: I have posted the Chicken Little gif in the past, and I'll probably post it again.  Keep calm and enjoy the recruiting haul.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I remember saying Troy who when he was the last kid added to the class!!!  I'll put my trust in Urban and Tom every single time over wannabe recruit experts on this site or any other sports site.
WELCOME ABOARD THE BUCKEYE NATION STEPHEN!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

pjtobin's picture

How are most kids heard about anyway? I would assume that some great talented kids get looked over each year? I'm glad we didn't overlook this kid. His highlights are awesome. A diamond in the rough maybe?

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

OSUs12-OH's picture

Welcome aboard the OSU/Meyer train Stephen!

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

tdible2132's picture

Colin Kaepernick is pretty darn good, and he was a 2* with the only D1 offer being Nevada.  This isn't a big time high profile commitment, but that doesn't mean in 2 or 3 years it won't be a high profiling commitment when we look back on it. 

Psychranger's picture

We're lucky to have this young man. He's got the head of a General on his shoulders and was brought to tears for wanting to be a Buckeye so badly. He WON THE QB MVP in the Nike Camp in Georgia, outperforming other names with higher rankings. A quote from that camp was along the lines of "on a day when defense ruled, Stephen Collier moved the team right down the field with velocity and accuracy". His films show accuracy and great running skill, never seeming to go down on the first hit. If u get a chance, find a full photo of this young man. He's already built like a big man as a rising Senior in High School and was offered by Harvard because he's plenty smart. He's a jewel and Coach Meyer and Coach Herman know one when they see one. Congrats Stephen!!!

JB3

Berniebucks78's picture

I am excited about this young man and what he can bring to Buckeye Nation! My only concern is I hope he understands he may not be the only QB in the class. Maybe he will and my perspective (some guy that knows very little about the inner workings of recruiting) may be way off. However, in a recent Ozone interview, he said something that caught my attention:

Ozone: What did OSU coaches say in regards to other QB targets like Brandon Harris? Will you be the only QB in this class? Collier: From what I know, it is just going to be me. They assured me I am their guy.

According to Harris (ref:11W "Brandon Harris Talks Ohio State" article) he seems convinced there is still room and Collier is NOT their only guy. Can someone smarter than me about recruiting tell me why the staff would say this to Collier while still pushing for Harris? I just hope (and will assume) Collier and Harris are given the same story. 

Either way, I have a feeling Collier is going to prove a lot of his "critics" wrong. Talent, coupled with work ethic and humility, go a LONG way!

"Indecision may (or may not) be my downfall."

WiliestBuckeye's picture

Personally, I don't understand why people get so caught up in the recruiting scene. Obviously its a big part of today's game, but judging talent is a difficult thing to do.  NFL teams get it wrong all the the time in the draft and they have a much easier time evaluating potential targets. Same can be said across all sports. This kid has done nothing wrong yet. No reason to be negative about this until he actually gives you a reason to. He seems like an amazing kid to me, and this is probably the biggest thing that has ever happened in his entire life. He obviously loves the idea of playing for OSU, and we should just be congratulating him and wishing him well. We won't know anything for a couple years either way so might as well hope for the best.

"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment."

Jonnferrell's picture

Welcome to the Buckeyes, Stephen!  I would not be surprised to see you leading the team to a few National Championships!  Congratulations!

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

KSparkle's picture

I'm personally sick of all these people that think we can't be disappointed when we get a 2-star recruit because "the coaches know what they're doing". These are probably the same people that get super excited when a highly regarded recruit chooses us. Why the excitement? because he has 5 stars. 
Stop the double standard. It's annoying. 
 

buck-I.8's picture

I don't think that's wholly accurate. If say, Deshaun Watson had taken his offer and committed, we would've celebrated, not because he's a top rated guy, but because it is obvious that he was at the top of the list of guys Urban wanted to run his offense. Same with a guy like Vonn Bell. It wasn't that he was a 5 star, it was that he's a beast, and a kid that Meyer and co. wanted to get their hands on for months and finally did. 
In Collier's case, at a position where we knew that the staff wouldn't just take a guy that didn't fit or wasn't good enough in this class, we got a guy who earned the offer, had the staff and the experts reeeally excited at camp, and is a guy who we can now trust has the tools to be able to be a quarterback at OSU. Maybe he works out, maybe he doesn't, or maybe Watson busts in South Carolina or Bell never plays. Since we can't see the future, we really can't venture much further than hoping/assuming that a staff that has proven that they can win can pick the right guys.

Larryp713's picture

Saddened to read all of the hate and cycnism that followed this post. Stephen seems like a great kid, with an amazing family. He is obviously a very talented QB, and I think a perfect fit for what coach Meyer is putting together at the Ohio State. The passion of Buckeye fans is a mixed bag, bringing out so much spirit and love for players, but the ugly underbelly of discontent and cynical judgment. I long ago resolved to love all those who commit to the Buckeyes, and wish them well. I also refuse to dwell on those that make another choice. Reading Stephen's tweets, and those of his parents, I am so pleased he will be a Buckeye. I wish him and his family all the best. He sounds like such a great kid, and gives me so much hope as we look beyond the great group of kids we get to watch, such as Brax, Philly, Shazier, Roby, and so many others. Let's love the kids who choose Buckeye nation, and stop all the useless speculation and negativitism.
Jeremy, I was so worried when Alex left, but you are doing a great job. thanks for sharing your passion and talent. Fantastic work!

Respectfully,

Larryp713