Gordon Gee to Retire July 1

June 4, 2013 at 10:13p    by Kyle Rowland    
310 Comments
Thanks for the memories.

Less than a week after a series of questionable statements by Gordon Gee became public, the Ohio State president has announced he intends to retire on July 1, according the Columbus Dispatch. Gee made jokes about Catholics, the SEC, Bret Bielema, Jim Delany and the Universities of Louisville, Kentucky and Cincinnati. Gee has made several ill-advised remarks since he returned to Ohio State in 2007.

The two-time Ohio State president made his announcement this afternoon in an email to students, faculty and staff.

“Without question, the university has achieved remarkable success, and it has been my honor and calling to lead it,” Gee’s email says. “Ohio State is well-positioned for the future. I love this university, and my relationship with it will continue.”

In a 16-minute phone interview with reporters, Gee insisted his December remarks "played very little" role in his decision to retire. Gee was jovial on the call, saying "I have regrest for things that I have said, but I have no regrets for about having a sense of humor and enjoying life and having a thick skin."


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rampageripster's picture

Just stupid... f-ing stupid
Another example how a vast minority and a 24/7 news culture ruins a good thing

Cause I couldn't go for three

GODOFWARBUCKEYE's picture

I apologize in advance to 11warriors but??? This is some BULLSHIT on so many levels I don't know where to start??? This man raised BILLIONS for TOSU, not to mention raising the academics to soaring heights.. I love TOSU and I love Ohio but if they keep caving to media pressure sooner or later it's going to come back and bite them in the ass...

"GIMMIE THAT BEAT FOOL!!! IT'S A FULL TIME JACK MOVE" Ice Cube jack for beats..

actionstanleyjackson's picture

What a joke. Gee is great for osu

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

TLB's picture

Sanctimonious media strikes again.  I will miss him and so will the university.  He was incredibly successful at fundraising.

droessl's picture

As much as I feel his hand was forced by reports of what he said, at the end of the day, he said a handful of things that brought unnecessary negative attention to the school. While they aren't as negative as some of the egregious missteps other prominent officials at other schools have made, AND he's done great work fundraising and otherwise; I won't miss seeing any ESPN headlines about what Gee said about another school. 

William's picture

Billions in fundraising>a headline on ESPN that draws unwanted attention...

droessl's picture

fundraising can happen w/o the negative headllines. That's all I'm saying

Triv's picture

The positives Gee has brought to OSU far outweigh the negative headlines. His shortcomings pail in comparison to his successes

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

Normal Buck's picture

Agreed.  And that sounds quite familiar.

William's picture

Name one president at a public university that was better at his job than Gee...

droessl's picture

I'm not familiar with other public university presidents. Most people outside of Ohio State fans probably just know Gee for his gaffes and not his good works. Sad as it is, a couple/few ill-advised statements outweigh the positives in terms of national/public perception. 

William's picture

Sad as it is, a couple/few ill-advised statements outweigh the positives in terms of national/public perception.

Huh? National perception? Outside of the Neanderthals that worship the words of the knuckle-draggers at ESPN, Gee is/was considered to be one of the best Presidents in the country by publications such as Time Magazine. I'm pretty sure that the positive reviews of Gee, by his academic peers, and by publications that are actually credible, far outweighs any amount of negative coverage of Gee's gaffes create on ESPN. 

William's picture

I don't think you get my point, you're linking to more articles on sports sites. Fucking sports sites have NOTHING to do with academic perception or excellence of a university. If someone comes away from an ESPN/Yahoo article despising OSU/Gee because of his remarks, and then in turn develops some negative view of OSU's academic stature because of said reports, they are mentally deficient and should check themselves into a mental ward as soon as possible. 

DaiTheFlu's picture

DROESSEL, just stop. Embarrassing.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

droessl's picture

I can't have a difference of opinion? 

osu07asu10's picture

No you can, you can just do it without the smartass .GIFs and such.

Sort of like fundraising without the negative headlines...

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

droessl's picture

the .gif was smartass, no doubt about it, and I accept the heat for that.  In my other posts I was trying to express an opinion and/or carry on conversation but was met with a combination of ire and downvotes, but not much in the way of conversation. 

gwalther's picture

I think you raise some good points, but you're fighting an uphill battle right now man. 
 
I'm thankful for the great contributions and love Gee has given Ohio State, but I think this was the right decision for the University going forward. Outside of Ohio, this decision will be viewed positively. I think there are reasons we should view it positively inside Ohio as well.
 

Class of 2008

CincyOSU's picture

William - Just so you are aware, ESPN was not responsible for dragging Gee's name through the mud. Go to any sports publication...SI, ESPN, Fox, NBC Sports, Yahoo, CBS Sports, etc and you will see the same headlines on a national scale. Say what you want about ESPN, this is not the time to point fingers solely at them.
And for the record, I am a proud Gee supporter.

AndyVance's picture

You're right that this isn't the time to point fingers solely at ESPN (plenty of other media hacks to blame, too)... BUT, for anyone who thinks Bristol isn't claiming Gee's scalp as a personal victory, I give you Exhibit A:
 

 

CincyOSU's picture

Andy - You say that as if it's proof that ESPN had some agenda to get Gee fired, that's one writers opinion. Look at the comments section in other newspapers across the country...they are not very supportive of Gee.
This isn't an ESPN issue. It's an issue with the media in general. When they smell blood, they will run with it no matter how minor the infraction was.

USMC11917's picture

Cincy - You support ESPN more often than I support Waycracked...and let me tell you that is a lot of flipping support. Let it go man..Mark May's got this!

CincyOSU's picture

How am I "supporting" ESPN? I am refuting claims that ESPN has an agenda against OSU. There is actually a BIG difference. Name ANYTHING is my comments above that aren't true. Please.
We look foolish when we CONSTANTLY cry about ESPN attacking us every time an article comes out that paints us in a negative light. All you have to do is look through this thread, we act like ESPN is the only news organization that reported this. I see no outrage towards CBS, Yahoo, CNN, Fox, SI, etc...can you explain why?

USMC11917's picture

I don't dispute the point you are trying to make. But Frick man, no one can say a negative thing about ESPN without you being all up on the four letter nutsack. Pass the torch man. Let someone else fight that battle. Sick of seeing your name on every rebuttal. That's all. I can deal with it I suppose.

CincyOSU's picture

I've said this MANY times, but I will say it again. Please look at all the threads posted on a daily basis and how many times ESPN is brought into the conversation. Now go through and look at how often I say anything. It's actually pretty rare that I respond.
As annoyed as you may be seeing me swinging "from the the four letter nutsack"(that actually made me laugh), I get equally annoyed at some of the obvious drivel being posted. It seems like there are some that seem to bash ESPN simply to be a part of the "mob mentality", without actually understanding WHY they think that. Now why is it OK for ppl to post their anti ESPN agenda, but I cannot post my opinions.

AndyVance's picture

My point isn't that I think there's some sort of behind-Bristol-doors agenda to target OSU, but the number of reporters at the Four-Letter Network actually celebrating his ouster proves the point that our University faces an uphill battle in the sports media. And moreover that Gee specifically was targeted here. Wojo is literally declaring victory in that Tweet - that the media won, and by extension that Gee and OSU lost.

CincyOSU's picture

Andy - My comment(s) weren't necessarily directed at you, just the general opinion that sometimes pervades these boards. We all know there are several anti OSU reporters at ESPN, that doesn't mean the company has an agenda though. Dodd and Doyel at CBS, Hayes at SN, Forde at Yahoo also have hard-ons for OSU. I just don't get why we fixate on ESPN.
I actually agree with you though that the media blew this whole situation WAY out of proportion. Those in the public eye are almost to the point where they shouldn't speak unless they sweep the area for recording devices lest someone catch them saying something that some might find "offensive".
 

AndyVance's picture

Cincy I know you weren't calling me out - no worries. You've always made a cogent argument that we fixate disproportionately on ESPN... However, I think the reason that is our gut reaction is because ESPN to a very large extent controls the narrative because they have the biggest megaphone. Yahoo does their thing, fine. Deadspin obviously has their own bully pulpit now, especially after the Te'o debacle.
But ESPN has a dozen 24-hour television channels and the most-trafficked sports site on the web and their own radio network... etc., etc., etc. Not to mention the fact that ESPN doesn't have multi-billion-dollar television rights deals with other conferences in direct competition with the Big Ten Network. ESPN has a vested financial interest in seeing Big Ten teams do poorly relative to the teams they're invested in - say the SEC, as one example.
I'm a journalist, and I like to believe there are still honest reporters in Bristol and elsewhere who wouldn't seriously "sell out" for the financial interests of their employers, but when it comes to pundits like Wojo, Mays, etc., they have no need to cling to any journalistic integrity because they're not journalists. ERGO, they are paid essentially to earn clicks, views, etc., and that means sensational stories that inflame, enrage, etc. "If it bleeds, it leads." When there's nothing bleeding, well, wag the dog.

spqr2008's picture

Got home today and played "dirty laundry by Don Henley 3 times in a row.

osu07asu10's picture

I've said this MANY times, but I will say it again. Please look at all the threads posted on a daily basis and how many times ESPN is brought into the conversation.

 
Haha the fact alone that you've had to say the above numerous times is proof enough that you're sucking the teet of a cow with the worldwide leader of sports branded on its ass 

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

NC_Buckeye's picture

Gee is the Urban Meyer of fundraising. Him retiring in this way is not good for the university.
You must be really young and not know what level the university was operating prior to him. Do yourself a favor and go find someone who was at tOSU at any time from 2002 thru 2007. Ask them how the president at that time compares to Gee.
This is just awful. Honestly.

osu07asu10's picture

You must be really young and not know what level the university was operating prior to him. Do yourself a favor and go find someone who was at tOSU at any time from 2002 thru 2007

 
Laughable that you are going to chastise some for being "really young" when your history includes all of a decade. Do yourself a favor and familiarize yourself with Gee's first tenure (where he made his greatest impact) ya old timer...

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

NC_Buckeye's picture

This guy was the president when I was in school. And Gee blew him out of the water.
So yeah, I'm familiar with Gee's first term. Plus, I was trying to make a point that a Holbrook-type president might be a possibility. And yes Karen Holbrook is the worst president tOSU has had in my lifetime.

Scarlet_Buckeye's picture

I'm tired of people bringing up the "fundraising" argument. Do you *REALLY* believe someone else will struggle to fundraiser $$$ for The Ohio State University? This isn't West Virginia or Cincinnati we're talking about. It's OHIO STATE.

AndyVance's picture

Two important points:

  1. No one has ever raised money for Ohio State with the success of E. Gordon Gee. The man has literally raised BILLIONS of dollars. Holbrook and Kirwan certainly didn't have anywhere near that level of success in engendering support for Ohio State. And,
  2. Gee has done a great deal more than simply raise money. Read the Ramzy piece from earlier in the day for just a brief look into the amazing things he's done in shaking up the academic inertia of one of the largest research and teaching institutions in the history of the universe. The work he's done to advance the mission of the University is almost mind-boggling, and likely never to be repeated in my lifetime.
William's picture

Why is it then that no university President prior to Gee in his 2nd term came close to fundraising the amounts that Gee did? Yes Ohio State does sell itself, but Gee took fundraising to a completely different level. 

osu07asu10's picture

See above points about doing research about the university past and history...

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

The last few things he said have been overblown. The "I just hope Coach Tressel doesn't dismiss me" line was made out to be more than what it should have been.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

DJRoss926's picture

I agree. People overreacting to Gee's failed attempts at humor should not be enough to run Gee out of town.

biggy84's picture

I won't miss seeing any ESPN headlines about what Gee said about another school.
 
Easy fix....stop watching espin

osu07asu10's picture

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

OSUStu's picture

THIS SUCKS!

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

William's picture

Shocked by this. I have had a few issues with Gee, but this is absolutely ridiculous if it is because of his remarks. The man did one Hell of a job as President, and has led to OSU's meteoric rise as an academic institution. 

Triv's picture

I honestly never thought his comments were that bad, and now the national media has run him out. Terrible, terrible thing. Gee is great for OSU and will suffer, albeit only slightly, without him.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

cbusbuckeye's picture

The BOT needs to take a good long look at who they will replace him with....we're probably in for something akin to the dark days of Karen Holbrook again

GoBucks713's picture

I doubt that happens again. The University learned it's lesson, which is why they went after Gee.

-The Aristocrats!

cbusbuckeye's picture

Who are they realistically going to bring in that has the charisma Gee has? It's not gonna happen. We're guaranteed to be looking at some corporate clone/clown who will say all the right things but will be an imbecile in all other regards

TheBadOwl's picture

I've seen people suggest Santa Ono after seeing what he's done at UC, but I absolutely hate that decrepit cesspool of a university and all of the jealous douchers who attend it. Then again, stealing their beloved president would be absolutely hilarious. It would be like Brian Kelly all over again, but with 1000x more butthurt.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

spqr2008's picture

My little brother would be sooooo pissed.  He just graduated UC, and Santa would be a good get.

Miami of Brohio's picture

Ironically, Urban Meyer is an alum of that cesspool of a university...

TheBadOwl's picture

My comment was definitely a lot more bitter than it should have been, but I'm in a glass case of emotion right now.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

JKH1232's picture

I'd think about Morty Shapiro over at Northwestern.  He's got a background in elite schools, now with B1G level experience, and can fundraise and manage money- half the buildings at Williams were rebuilt or rennovated in his tenure there, and, in spite of the construction, the endowment grew by about half again.

thatlillefty's picture

Why do have to rip Cincinnati? A lot of people on this site hail from that city.

TheBadOwl's picture

Yeah, including me. Half of my high school goes to UC, and I'd say that about 80% of them constantly rip on OSU. UC kids have a Napoleon complex towards us and it's really the only reason why I absolutely hate them.
Also, I'm pissed at the world because Gee is gone. I'm in a glass case of emotion.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

Sgt. Elias's picture

Oh god, not that.  I was around for those dark days.

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

CowCat's picture

Well, at least we got a crystal football when Holbrook was here.
*Ducks*   :)
 

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

GoBucks713's picture

Bring back Tress as a big F You to the media, and you can't tell me he couldn't fundraise like Gee.

-The Aristocrats!

spqr2008's picture

That would be the biggest troll hire ever.  Basically like putting a flaming bag of dog poop on the NCAA's front porch.

GoBucks713's picture

He called the bag of shit poop!

-The Aristocrats!

Earle's picture

If this wasn't a Buckshot I would have thought it was a troll post.  Wow!

The TresselMeyer's picture

Score up another victory for the PC Police. How disgusting.

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

themostbrian's picture

Actually, I think this has way less to do with the "PC Police" (which don't exist) and much more to do with those in charge of managing the university's overall brand and positioning in the academic marketplace.

spqr2008's picture

The PC police is a risk adverse mindset that seeks to ostracize and punish those who make comments that, although controversial or stupid, should be protected speech.
 

Denny's picture

We're going down a rabbit hole here, but "protected" and "without consequence" are not the same thing. At all.

Taquitos.

spqr2008's picture

True enough, but a university's mission is to educate, enlighten, and have open discussions, which requires freer discourse than is considered socially acceptable in society.  And in sticking with that mission, the BOT should not have forced him to resign.

themostbrian's picture

Gee's comments are 100% protected speech. He has not been arrested nor have his rights to say such things been infringed upon whatsoever.
 
The 1st amendment guarantee of free speech has nothing to do with keeping one's job or reputation in the free marketplace. It simply protects an individual from GOVERNMENT interference. Had Gee been arrested and walked out in handcuffs, you would have a case.
 
The 1st amendment has absolutely nothing to say about what goes on in the free marketplace. It only speaks to the constraint that the government places on itself to not interfere in an individual's right to free speech.

spqr2008's picture

You understand the BOT is most certainly a state of Ohio institution, and due to the 14th amendment, bound to honor the 1st.  Again, because he resigned, it's not an issue of a 1st amendment breach, it's an issue of creating a substantial chilling effect on speech, which while not illegal, is immoral.

Boomcat's picture

My comment was of plain ignorance. Carry on.

The TresselMeyer's picture

Oh really - the PC Police doesn't exist in reality?!? Thanks for pointing that out!
This happened because of the massive media backlash that has happened since the story became public. The media got wind of "controversial comments" - mind you, JOKES that were laughed at by those in attendance - and ran with the story because these non-stories are things that drive page views these days. If "those in charge of managing the university's overall brand and positioning" were that concerned with the comments, they would have taken action when they first learned of the comments awhile back - not when the comments became widely known to the public via the various media outlets.
 

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

themostbrian's picture

I disagree - I think the exact opposite, actually.
 
If it was the "PC Police" doing the firing, then they would've done it IMMEDIATELY when it happened since that was the offense they care about.
 
However, the people managing brand identity and academic positioning ONLY CARE ABOUT what Gee said WHEN it becomes public and begins to affect the brand and university positioning.
 
Had Gee been fired right away, I would agree with you. The fact that he was fired only when it was made public shows definitively that the BoT didn't care about the comments themselves - they only care about the FALLOUT from the comments, namely the impact on the university.

The TresselMeyer's picture

You're not making sense. 

  The fact that he was fired only when it was made public shows definitively that the BoT didn't care about the comments themselves - they only care about the FALLOUT from the comments, namely the impact on the university

That's what I'm saying. The sensationalism perpetuated by the media is what caused the issue, not the content of his comments.

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

themostbrian's picture

That has everything to do with protecting the university brand. Not with caring about the actual words that were said.
 
Gee could've called everyone "f*cking f*ggots" and the board wouldn't have cared unless it reflected poorly on the image of the university. That's what I'm saying.

The TresselMeyer's picture

If he called everyone that then people would rightly be outraged and the board should have, and would have, taken appropriate action.
In this case, they succumbed to the mock outrage sensationalized across the country by media outlets. If the board would have released a statement saying essentially, "He shouldn't have made those comments as a public figure in today's highly reactive environment. However, we recognize that the comments were very clearly made in jest and obviously do not reflect the actual views of Gee or tOSU. Thanks for your time. Screw off ESPN," then I feel like 95% of rational adults would be on board w/ that course of action.
Maybe they would leave the last part off of their sentence. Hopefully not though.

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

The TresselMeyer's picture

Ultimately, you're giving in to the "Pussification of America" mindset which is making a mockery of our country, and I'm trying to fight against it. 
Maybe I'm fighting a losing battle by refusing to give in to the new age of extreme political correctness, but if that's the case, so be it. We can agree to disagree.

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

Denny's picture

[Y]ou're giving in to the "Pussification of America" mindset

And you're not making a very compelling argument if you're going to 'fight' against America writ large morphing into some sort of uber-cat gestalt, which is clearly the only logical way to parse the term 'pussification of america'.

Taquitos.

dancorona5's picture

i hate everything about this...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

This is lame.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

actionstanleyjackson's picture

so Gee is forced to retire for some zingers yet Gene Smith still has his job?
And most of what Gee said gave everyone a nice inside look at expansion....

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

osu07asu10's picture

What a joke. Anyone who thinks that Wexner and Schumate don't have Gee's blood on their hands are blind.

REALLY disappointed to call myself an Ohio State Buckeye today.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

ATXbucknut's picture

I knew this was going to happen.  The media won't quit when they smell blood in the water. It was just a matter of time, unfortunately.

Ekes42's picture

This sucks.  Gee is awesome.  I'll never forget turning around at Panini's and seeing him in the middle of all the students taking pictures with everyone that asked or running him during the senior crawl outside Tuna and getting him to sign my shirt.
He was great for the university and I'm proud that my diploma has his name at the bottom. 

Veraton's picture

I'm in shock after seeing this, Gee was a fantastic president and I was lucky to have been a student while he was president.  I remember meeting him multiple times and he was always awesome to talk to.  Such an asset, he will be very difficult to replace.

kdizzleduzit's picture

This is sad. I loved Gee even though he made a few off-colored jokes here and there. He was great for the university and he will be missed

BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

This sucks. I'm pissed.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

College presidents come and go. Ohio State was just fine before Gee arrived, and it will be fine afterwards. Way too much angst in here.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

William's picture

Actually OSU has never been as academically elite as it is now, and a lot of that is due to the fact that Gee fundraised billions for OSU, along with the many academic elites he drew to OSU. 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

My time there preceded Gee's tenure, and I can assure you the university was quality even back then. I believe it also turned out excellent graduates during the Kirwan and Holbrook years. 
This day was coming before long anyway. Gee is 69 and has been a college president somewhere or other for over 30 years, an amazingly long time. Even without the latest controversy, I  figured next year was a likely date for his retirement. 
The next president might be a little less of a public figure (to the extent that's possible in Columbus), but I think folks will be surprised by how small a difference they will notice.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

cbusbuckeye's picture

Holbrook was a nightmare with a massive chip on her shoulder

spqr2008's picture

I wouldn't have minded him retiring next year, but this is in response to negative media coverage, which decided it wanted to cover Ohio State's president, not Ohio State's athletics, in the offseason.  Frankly, it got blown out of proportion by the SEC homers and Domers, who should have just made a crack about tattoos and paying players, then moved on.  The best response to speech you don't like is more speech, not trying to get someone fired.

William's picture

And I can assure that OSU has never been so highly thought of as an academic institution as it has been under Gee. I don't see what is so hard to comprehend here, OSU under Gee has reached academic heights that no other president has led the school to in its 143 year history. 

osu07asu10's picture

I can assure you the university was quality even back then. I believe it also turned out excellent graduates during the Kirwan and Holbrook years.

Imagine that, who was the man who preceded and bookended both of those presidents.
 
Also for all of you UC/OSU frictioners...we can all agree Holbrook is fucking horrible. Anyone who thinks other is either related to her or dedicated to being the most hated person in their respective plots, just like Holbrook did at the two largest state universities in Ohio
 

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Chad Peltier's picture

I can speak mostly to its political science department, which received buckets of money during Gee's tenure and is now one of the most cutting edge departments in the country. 

William's picture

As a Political Science student I can proudly brag that OSU's Political Science department was ranked 4th in the world by the London School of Economics, and this was before Gee dumped money into it. If anything the quality of the department has only improved since it was ranked 4th in the world by the LSE. http://www.hu-berlin.de/ueberblick/humboldt-universitaet-zu-berlin/rankings/les/Hix-Rankings-30Jan04.pdf

yrro's picture

Serious bullshit. He made a couple jokes, that's it. How is that more important than everything he does as president? Someone must have been wanting him gone for a while and just been looking for an excuse. Maybe they'll just make Gene Smith president :P

9Route's picture

Oh Lord, I hope that doesn't happen!

I'm just happy to be here

SilverBulletNYC's picture

Meh. On to the next one. I was never a fan of Gee. Seems like a nice person but we'll be fine without him.

The South will NOT rise again!

Triv's picture

We may be fine without him, but OSU was at its best by quite a bit with Gee at the helm

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

DeepSouthBuckeye's picture

Sad to see him go. You had to wonder though how much longer his leash was. Nonetheless, he did great things for tOSU, and he will be missed. I hope the search for his replacement is not taken lightly.  
Maybe he will replace TBone on Common Man and Company. Let him say whatever is on his mind... He would fit in great...

Loving all things Buckeye from SEC country in Alabama.
"How firm thy friendship....O-HI-O"

tennbuckeye19's picture

In the words of Karen Sypher to Rick Pitino, "That was fast."

osu07asu10's picture

GOLD!

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

GoBucks713's picture

One should apply warm water to a burn.

-The Aristocrats!

Poison nuts's picture

Tenn, you just won the Internet for the day...again. Congratulations - there is no physical prize to accompany this accomplishment, but hopefully just knowing you have won on something so monstrous as Al Gore's monumental invention, will be satisfaction enough.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Hovenaut's picture

Roasting with gusto my man, a shining beacon in a shitbag of a thread.

Well played.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

RedStorm45's picture

This isn't shocking.  It's not the first time Mr. Gee has brought...less than a favorable spotlight upon the university.  Many are ok with the jokes (I don't think it's a huge issue), but you're basically saying you're good with the President of OSU being that drunk Uncle at parties.  The President, fairly or unfairly, has a different set of standards in order to be successful.  One of those is to not sound like that crazy Uncle.  If you replaced "Catholics" with "Jews" or "Muslims" then you have fairly large problem on your hands, in my opinion.

William's picture

No, just no. As a hook-nose, or Red Sea Pedestrian, I would fail to see how changing between Catholic/Jew/Muslim would alter the reaction to his comments. I'm perfectly fine with the President being that drunk uncle, as long as he's doing his job damn well, which Gee did. 

RedStorm45's picture

The point is that there are certain groups - be it certain races, religions, etc. - that our society tolerates joking about more than others.  I will just agree to disagree if he had said "You can't trust those damn Muslims" wouldn't have sparked outrage, even if it was a joke.

NYC Buckeye's picture

While I agree with you to a certain point, I actually think it was the religious comment that did him in...  Believe me, were not firing a president over ill advised jokes about Kentucky...lol

BME_Buckeye's picture

Why do people use this argument if your insert this ethnic group or religion then this will happen? It didn't so why even bring it up? 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

SilverBulletNYC's picture

I ain't touching this.

The South will NOT rise again!

TheBadOwl's picture

But he wasn't generalizing Catholics. He was talking about Notre Dame's (extremely crooked) athletic department, and how they were holding out for more money during negotiations to join the Big Ten. He was poking fun at how a religious institution that celebrates (kind of) giving away possessions to the poor and is against accumulating extreme wealth would be so stingy in negotiations.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

Patriot4098's picture

I'm starting to think that ESPN has a list on a wall somewhere. "People to get fired."

"Evil shenanigans!"     - Mac

9Route's picture

The Board of Trustees, for lack of a better word, are a bunch of PUSSIES!
They bend over backwards to appease the PC media.

I'm just happy to be here

RedStorm45's picture

"Did Jim Tressel fire him?"

Crimson's picture

Maybe I'll upvote this later.  I'm too depressed.
It was nice having a president to be proud of at this university, considering my last one had a d*mn fool.

9Route's picture

First the Board gets rid of Jim Tressel, and now they force out Gordon Gee. Clearly the Board is the problem. It's run by a bunch of sissy boys.

Edit: anybody DVing me - that's fine, but if it's because you think "sissy boys" means gays, you're wrong. I'm calling them pussies, essentially. Sheesh.

I'm just happy to be here

cal3713's picture

"Seriously people, I'm not derogating gays, just women... lighten up."

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

just women

Or cats.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BuckeyeVet's picture

I'm fairly sure he meant cats. And therefore I'M offended. Lol.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

9Route's picture

No bruh. Wrong again. I'm not being derogatory towards women. I love women. I love being with women.
I'm calling out the sissified men who need a set of balls; by this I mean quit letting the national media dictate your actions.

I'm just happy to be here

ellspar's picture

So you're against Eunuchs?

RedStorm45's picture

Not firing Tressel means no Urban.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Because Tressel was a 3rd tier coach, right? I mean all he did was go 12-1 his last year in Columbus.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

RedStorm45's picture

I'm just saying...it's a fact.  People are "thankful" for tat-gate in other threads because it brought us Urban.  If Tressel doesn't get fired, he's probably still the HC.  It wasn't a knock on him as a coach at all.  Not sure where you inferred that.

brandonbauer87's picture

This is terrible. Just awful. 

BuckeyeSki's picture

Looks like Tressel finally got him......

Banned from BlackShoeDiaries since 2008. Crime: Slander/Defamation of Character Judgement: Guilty

umbyosu's picture

As many have already said, shocked but not surprised.

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

GoBucks713's picture

There's really nothing better than a Half Baked .gif (not jif) in a thread about some half baked idea.

-The Aristocrats!

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

Hahaha Exactly.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

Whosisbrew's picture

is there any reason someone would downvote a comment that said "Hahaha exactly?"

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

Good question. Maybe someone got butt hurt over a Half Baked reference. If that's the case I just feel bad for them.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

USMC11917's picture

An excellent example of how the media and the perceptions it manipulates controls the decisions of everything and anything in life today. People can't make their minds up for themselves and are to lazy to figure out who someone really is or what they are really about. They lazily allow themselves to be fed information from organizations that have grown to report more drama than they do the news. The students need to rally and show the board just how important this man is to them and their community.

rampageripster's picture

Board is very fortunate that it is summer break... they would have a riot on their hands if school was in session.  Gee was more beloved than any other figure head at OSU.

Cause I couldn't go for three

RBuck's picture

What a great post, USMC.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Poison nuts's picture

Very well said USMC, I would hope that although students are on break, they would come out & rally around him...it would be a truly righteous thing to do.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

USMC11917's picture

I have a smart phone but dumb fingers. Can someone toss an up vote at poison for me please. Thanks.

Denny's picture

Goddammit.

Taquitos.

themostbrian's picture

I went from 245 helmet stickers last week to 98 this week because I had the nerve to repeatedly suggest that Gee's comments were unacceptably inappropriate, insensitive and worthy of censure and discipline.
 
But this is wrong. On balance, Gee has been the best thing that has happened to Ohio State in many decades. He has brought in untold billions, raised the academic profile of Ohio State to unprecedented levels and fronted the university with a charismatic, quirky personality paired with a brilliant administrative and strategic mind.
 
Gee's comments should not be excused. But he should've retained his position based on a history of results and overall benefit for the university. This is not a good day for Ohio State - there is no replacement for a guy like Gee. He deeply loves Ohio State and is arguably the best University President in the country.

spqr2008's picture

THEMOSTBRIAN,
Thank you for speaking your mind on the subject.  As I said above, the best response to speech you don't like is more speech.  I apologize if I was one of the people who downvoted you (I tried not to downvote people who didn't like his comments, but I know I got pissed and did downvote a couple of the more outrageous comments).

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I went from 245 helmet stickers last week to 98 this week because I had the nerve to repeatedly suggest that Gee's comments were unacceptably inappropriate, insensitive and worthy of censure and discipline. 

It's more that you posted the same thing about 15 times in one thread. Then you made a thread about it.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

themostbrian's picture

It's called satire. I was satirizing the fact that so many were excusing Gee for the comments and, in doing so, implying that there was nothing wrong with insulting people for their race, religion, sexuality, geographic locale or educational attainment.
 
Sometimes the only way satire can take hold is to repeat it loudly and repeatedly until people are forced to confront it. I stand by my comments and the way I chose do proceed.

themostbrian's picture

And I would just add that satire is a fantastic way to bring people face to face with the extreme implications of a position they have chosen to take. It's what The Onion does every single day. Now I'm certainly not claiming to be The Onion, but I certainly tried to employ those principles in the comment that I repeatedly copied and pasted - the point was to show people how excusing Gee's comments as 'just fine' is basically an implicit endorsement of all kinds of different identity insults and nasty -isms and -phobias that we as a society are trying to move beyond.
 
It's not okay to insult someone by calling them a pussy or a faggot. It's not okay to say Catholics aren't trustworthy. It's not okay to broadly insult people from the south by suggesting they're not educated or smart. It's not okay to say that a woman should be subservient to a man.
 
By excusing Gee's comments, we risk excusing all of the above. Where do we draw the line?
 
Having said that, I don't think he should've been fired for them. 

The TresselMeyer's picture

Calling someone a pussy or faggot is not okay, I think 99+% of people would agree w/ that.
Joking that "you can't trust those damn Catholics" is not on the same level. If it were clear that Gee really believed that you literally can't trust any person who is Catholic, that would be a different story (and would actually be worthy of the backlash). Or if he really believed that nobody in Alabama could read or write. Its pretty easy to infer that Gee does not really believe these things and was simply trying to make people laugh (which they did).

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

themostbrian's picture

I don't agree with that distinction.
 
I 100% agree with you that Gee did not believe those things to be literally true.
 
But I would also argue that someone who calls another person a "faggot" does not literally believe that this other person is a homosexual. Same thing with "pussy". Same thing with "bitch".
 
The simple fact is that Gee, whether joking or not, insulted entire demographics in a casual way without considering that some people might actually take offense OR the possible negative effect on the university. So, to be honest, I don't think it matters whatsoever whether he was joking or not.
 
If he had called Notre Dame 'faggots' but it was clear he was joking, would that have been acceptable?

The TresselMeyer's picture

"Faggot" is a term that, I believe most would agree, is offensive in nearly every setting, regardless of context. So, obviously not acceptable. 
What Gee said did not include the use of offensive terms, and there was also context around what he was saying. Thus, acceptable in my eyes. Obviously, not acceptable in the eyes of Yahoo, THEMOSTBRIAN, ESPN, and others.
 
 

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

cajunbuckeye's picture

The Notre Lame reference is kind of tripping me up; but no, I don't believe it would be acceptable

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

Crimson's picture

all kinds of different identity insults

You need to learn the difference between jokes and insults.  "How do you drown/kill a blonde?  Put a scratch and sniff sticker at the bottom of a pool!"  <--- This is a joke.  It is not advocating killing a woman or committing genocide against all women of the blonde persuasion.  It's a joke.  Maybe if I post, "It's a joke." 20 times on this thread, then you will understand.
 

themostbrian's picture

Maybe. But more than likely, I'll probably land on the idea that the joke is gender normative and comes from a misogynistic place, regardless of whether that is your personal opinion. So telling it in a public setting while representing a major research university would be highly inappropriate.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I think the "repeatedly" part was the issue for most of us, since I didn't take exception to what you said the first time you said it. 
I don't endorse downvoting just for having an unpopular opinion, but what you did amounted to troll behavior.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

themostbrian's picture

I can see that. And perhaps I did take it too far. I was trying to make a larger point and I was willing to sacrifice a certain amount of credibility to do so. Appreciate your comment.

bwh's picture

1) helmet stickers totally are proof of how awesome you are... NOT.
2) you got downvoted to hell cuz your thoughts were beyond off base. had you written your previous works of insanity in similar style to what's above, it would have been a bit more mild in reception.

themostbrian's picture

I wasn't touting my sticker count as a reference to my own awesomeness. I was simply pointing out how much flack I received for satirizing the stance so many people were taking.
 
Again, if you understand satire, I don't think my comments were offbase. You may have been put off by the manner in which I presented them.

thatlillefty's picture

dude, just shut up already

Jhesse17's picture

10 bucks says if you put this guy in a room with Albert Einstein, George Washington, and Jesus he would still think he was the smartest guy in the room.

TheBadOwl's picture

To be fair, he's certainly more educated than George Washington and Jesus were. They don't have PhD's.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

Denny's picture

I would hope so. Being smarter than three corpses isn't really difficult. 

Taquitos.

RC's picture

The only thing I down voted was your picture above that was basically gloating that Gee was fired.  While I disagree with pretty much everything else you have said about the incident, I would not down vote you just because I disagree with your point of view.

USMC11917's picture

Gee on your way out the door tell everyone that was offended by your wit and attempts at humor to kiss your - - -! I assure you he was encouraged to retire, after he made his apologies no less. (No source)

joshhersh's picture

The politically correct nimrods and media strike again and continue the pussification of this country.  Disgusting.  Learn how to laugh at yourselves people, lighten up and learn how to take a simple, harmless statement and not be offended. 

Jordan Wagner's picture

As an Ohio State student, E. Gordon Gee will be missed. 

Denny's picture

As a fan of grammar, I don't think you're saying what you're trying to say.

Taquitos.

gwalther's picture

Holy shit that reply was good. Haha

Class of 2008

themostbrian's picture

#misplacedmodifier

DJRoss926's picture

Possibly obvious hypothetical: is the outcry as large if these comments are leaked in season and does Gee step down?

rampageripster's picture

Of course not.  In fact, if it is the regular season these comments aren't even brought up.  THEY HAPPENED IN DECEMBER! This isn't even a recent instance.  I think the excruciating coverage of the apology tour was even worse.

Cause I couldn't go for three

BuckeyeVet's picture

The Board of Trustees needs to read Ramzy's article. Twice. 

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

Maffro's picture

I am going to be extremely angry if this is because of something that the entire media blew way, WAY out of proportion.
I was a student at OSU under both Holbrook and Gee, and I don't want anyone at my alma mater to have a president that doesn't care about the university or its students ever again.

mh277907's picture

This may seem over the top but have we seriously gotten to this point as a nation? What has happened to our freedom of speech? In my opinion, this is not a battle of public perception but rather a personal attack that has cost a man his job. If this isn't an attack our First Amendment Rights then I am not sure what is. His words have caused harm to absolutely NO ONE. These are not words of HATE. Gee should have stood by his words and told the free world to kiss his ass for being offended by such benign comments.

buckeyebobcat

hodge's picture

Goddammit.
I had a really bad feeling that this was going to happen, gaffes like that are really hard to come back from--and tend to be a-bombs for the institution's image as a whole.  
I'll miss you Dr. Gee, as you were one of the finest men to ever helm my alma mater.

LABuckeye's picture

This really f'n sucks. That's all...

E2Brutus's picture

Well there goes all the fun... thanks a lot, Debbie!

SilverBulletNYC's picture

I love how ESPN and the media made such a huge deal about Gee's comments  but haven't even mentioned the Alabama president basically endorsing segregation:
http://cw.ua.edu/2011/09/19/our-view-witt-ua-cannot-defend-systemic-segregation/

The South will NOT rise again!

Bucksfan's picture

Gee's comments pertained mostly to college football dealings.  I agree that Alabama's president should certainly resign over those abhorrent comments, but you're not going to see it on ESPN unless it had something to do with football.

The TresselMeyer's picture

On one hand, I agree with you in regards to the fact that you're not going to see it on ESPN unless it relates to sports somehow.
On the other hand.... have you watched ESPN lately?!? Haha

Brady Hoke's reaction to the Urban Meyer hire: "Not good."

RC's picture

And you're probably not going to see it on ESPN if it, in any way, sheds a negative light on an SEC institution.

Boomcat's picture

Never was a big fan of Gee. I know he was an exponential boost to the university, but as others have said, I don't think the roof will cave in. They will get another guy in there that does the job and all will be well.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

For all the complaints in this thread about how Gee is out of a job because folks are overly sensitive, there sure to seem to be a lot of downvotes for anyone who has merely suggested that the university will continue to thrive under a new president. Is that really controversial?

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

smith5568's picture

Another stupid knee-jerk reaction to overblown media coverage. For once I wish a public figure would stand behind their actions/words when what they said or did is so insignificant but made into a huge ordeal by the media. For once I would like a public figure to call the media and others out and let them know that their hypersensitivities and hyperbole will not affect them.
Words cannot even describe how disgusted I am.    

jestertcf's picture

~Because we couldn't go for three~

Bucksfan's picture

I think this is a big loss to the university.  The only thing I disliked about Gee was his propensity to say really stupid things when it came to college football.  Everything else, Ohio State was getting him for a bargain price.  Since college football is easily one of the most closely-followed sports in America, having the nation's top-paid President say so many things dastardly misguided time after time after time was really unfortunate.  He just didn't know how to not say the wrong thing when it came to that sport.  At a place like Ohio State, with the kind of mega-program that they have, and the kind of eyes that are always on it, you can't be a jackass about it.

BED's picture

I want whichever Trustee(s) this was to come out publicly and acknowledge it was him/her that called for Gee's retirement.  That way we know whom we need to petition for ouster by the Governor.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

9Route's picture

Amen! Best comment yet!!!

I'm just happy to be here

toad1204's picture

I found a group of petitioners to help out...

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

Earle's picture

Before we grab our torches and pitchforks and commence storming the castle, can we at least consider the possibility that Gee chose to step down voluntarily rather than deal with whatever "remediation plan" the board had laid out for him?
Gee is clearly his own man, he is 69 years old, and is presumably well-positioned financially. It's not beyond imagination to think he just said, "Enough!  I don't need to deal with this!"
Certainly the board needed to do something to foster the perception that they took Gee's comments seriously.  Perhaps it was just too much for Gee to stomach.  I'm not sure if I were at the same point in my career that I would allow myself to be subjected to "sensitivity training" or some such nonsense.
I'm all for the outrage if he is really being forced out, but I'm not entirely convinced it isn't largely Gee's own decision. 

Idaho Helga's picture

^^ This. The guy is 69 and it would be degrading to be at his level academically and have some say, grad students, walking him through some "remediation plan" that we all know was only done so the board could look like it did SOMETHING when it heard those comments.
At his age, I wouldn't want to continue on knowing that now each and every syllable will be similarly parsed (and worse than before).  Gee can retire and say whatever the hell he wants now.  I'm sure he'll write a fascinating autobiography, which I'd love to read!
Its unfortunate what happened, but life happens especially retirement for 69 year olds.   He did do great things for Ohio State, I really get that, but it's a good thing he is resigning.   How many more years would he have been President anyway?

Idaho Helga's picture

Just played the press conference and not surprisingly, Gee said when asked about the letter from the BOT and his embarrassment about the latest remarks said "...I've had a lot of headwind and I'm 69" so I'm not so convinced a gun was held up to the guys head.

BED's picture

Touche.  However, I guarantee there was at lease some BOT pressure on him.  It's a pretty coincidental announcement, otherwise.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

smith5568's picture

I get the feeling it was Schottenstein. I have been skeptical of him being Chairman of the Board since he took over. I also found it interesting that soon after Les Wexner stepped down as chairman and Schottenstein took over that Les Wexner stepped down all together. This is complete conjecture and would never be confirmed but I get the feeling that Les Wexner had an issue with Schottenstein. 
As powerful as Gee was, Les Wexner was even more so. I feel his departure was more devastating to the University than this news. 

jaxbuckeye's picture

Agreed!  This is an outrage!

NC_Buckeye's picture

Anyone have an idea on how to communicate with the trustees about this? Going to call the alumni office tomorrow to express my displeasure at his "retirement".

BME_Buckeye's picture

 
 
Board of Trustees
210 Bricker Hall 190 North Oval Mall
Columbus, OH 43210-1358
Phone: (614) 292-6359

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

smith5568's picture

Comment so I can use later. Thank you. 

el duderino's picture

I think what makes me the most mad is that that idiot Barchi still has his job at Rutgers, after doing things that were actually detrimental to the university.

As a graduate of tOSU, I'm sad for my alma mater and for Dr. Gee. He was definitely a keeper.

"This is a very complicated case: a lot of ins, lot of outs, lot of what-have-yous."

741's picture

Great two-time OSU president, whose friendly but occaisionally flippant manner of speaking is just a little too much. I hope we can find someone as charismatic and effective, but a little more careful with off the cuff remarks.

741's picture

My opinion is Dr. Gee's greatest strength was his ability to fundraise, and this last gaffe compromised his credibility enough to lessen his economic value in that arena - at least for a while. I wonder if he will just retire and not seek out a university president job elsewhere?

hetuck's picture

This is not good news. It will be difficult to find another President willing to lead the wide and disparate OSU communities. I have confidence they will not repeat the Holbrook experience and pick someone who hasn't been in a similar barrel. You need someone with experience at a large public university with a medical center and a relevant athletic program. He/she will have to quickly earn the respect of Ohio's political leaders and central Ohio's business community. No one will match Gee's charisma so don't try. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

SilverBulletNYC's picture

Another reason why I think ESPN went overboard on this story:
He's a president of a B1G school, a school that is part of the B1G network. Of course ESPN is going to go after a competitor. I barely heard ESPN mention the Major Applewhite scandal when he was caught sleeping with a student- god forbid they do anything that could harm the brand of the Texas network.
Like I mentioned above, I haven't heard anything from them regarding the Alabama president (who basically endorsed segregation). God forbid they do anything that could harm the brand of the SEC Network.

The South will NOT rise again!

German Buckeye's picture

Because we are in dead sports time - NHL playoffs (yawn), NBA playoffs (sort of yawn), MLB (zzzzzzzzz). Gotta give the outlets something to do to earn a paycheck. 

cal3713's picture

Too bad he didn't retire before switching OSU over to semesters.  

BME_Buckeye's picture

Does this mean you don't like the Quarter to Semester Conversion or something else? 
Actually its probably a good thing because I couldn't imagine what would be happening on campus right now if the school was still on quarters. Go one year back and right now would be finals week and you'd likely have people protesting on the Oval and Bricker Hall both for his termination and for what people believe as the Trustees forcing him out. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

LexingtonBuckeye's picture

I wouldn't be surprised if Notre Dame had something to do with this behind closed doors. Coupled with ESPN grasping at straws for a news story and teaming up with the PC police, we have all the makings of a "retirement". I wish him well, and I hope he enjoys his days off and continues to speak his mind without fear of public ramifications.

brandonbauer87's picture

I love a good conspiracy but c'mon man. 

DJRoss926's picture

This is quite a leap, my friend.

LexingtonBuckeye's picture

That may have come off as a little conspiracy theory-ish, but that wasn't my intent. I don't think someone was calling the shots in the background and forced him into something. All I was saying was that I wouldn't be surprised if a few influential people may have suggested this as a way to appease ND (being we have tried to get them in the B1G for awhile) and coupled with the PC police and ESPiN reporting, it could have had a hand in the way things shook out.

ATT2121's picture

Sad day. His many accomplishments far outweigh any mistake he may of made. Godspeed Mr. Gee, you will be missed.

 
 

"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
Jesse Owens
 

NYC Buckeye's picture

I think the lesson here is simple...  
Don't poke fun at the catholics, even if you are the Lebron James of collegiate fundraising...

9Route's picture

it was probably the comment about the SEC that pissed off the media/BSpn even more, the SEC is their darling...and let's be real --- if he would have said something about another religion --- they might be looking for his head right now

I'm just happy to be here

NYC Buckeye's picture

Your right about another religion, but a top tier university is not going to force a president to retire over comments about a conference... ESPN had nothing to do with this, his comments about Notre Dame extended way beyond athletics...

thatlillefty's picture

Between this and Sunday's GoT... it's been a pretty terrible week.

dumpus's picture

Tressel for President. 
think about it for a while - give it a day or two.  you will come to agree. 

redfox's picture

You are kidding right

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I hope that if anything, Gee retired on his own accord because he didn't want to operate in a box that doesn't allow him to be who he is.  I hope he wasn't forced out behind closed doors.  That would be very weak of the BoT to do that over some comments that shed a little bad publicity on OSU.  I can think of quite a few incidents that have embarrassed the university by various individuals over the years.  It's not like OSU is new to negative publicity.  Not even close.  And most, if not all of those things were worse than a harmless, failed attempt at humor (if you even want to call it failed...you could hear laughter in the background).  I'd call it something closer to a few pussies got upset and the national media took it and ran with it because it's OSU, the school with the largest fanbase and perhaps the largest haterbase. 
I wish him the best of luck in retirement and thank him for all of the great things he has done for my alma mater.  I just can't help but think that retirement was an unnecessary step.  But if he's thought about it and that's what HE really wants to do, then by all means.  I just hope OSU can get a replacement that at least maintains the success that Gee has had. 

Class of 2010.

SilverState's picture

Charismatic.
Elite fundraiser.
Transformed the University.
Loved by all.
Media blew it way out of proportion.
Not replaceable.
 
However, the continual gaffes, whether taken out of context or not, impaired the goodwill, even if just a little, of such a great University, larger than one individual. How he could presumably continue to give speeches without some type of accounting mechanism (pre-written and reviewed, for example) is beyond me.

smith5568's picture

Maybe I am misreading your comment but Gee's comments were not in a speech. They were said and recorded in a closed meeting with the Athletics Council. They became public through a public records request.  

SilverState's picture

"Speech," meaning essentially, any engagement where he is speaking amongst others.

smith5568's picture

But everything he says in every meeting or engagement cannot be previously approved. He wouldn't have been able to do his job. 

Haybucks's picture

From a Gaffe, Some Good for Little Sisters of the Poor

"More important to the Little Sisters is the awareness that Gee’s gaffe has caused, helping spread word of their work and mission."
Attempts to vilify Gee based on his off-centered sense of humor shows total lack of understanding Gee and the context of the statement or that the vilifier is attempting to promote the "joke" for personal gain.
 

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

PierogyJim's picture

Someone call the fire department, this dumpster fire is burning out of control!

Bucks's picture

Had a all out discussion with a friend believing he would end up resigning. I was positive there was no chance at all. NONE. Just absurd this man is being forced out.
Such a rapid departure as well. Disgusted by this.
 
With the whole 'plan' that was handed down by the BOT, this was effectively case closed. I have to think that some additional audio has been found or brought up that would create additional issues (after the audio that started this).
Terrible, terrible decision.

AndyVance's picture

Here's the biggest point of the story: a great man's unprecedented accomplishments in significantly advancing the greater mission of The Ohio State University have been completely overshadowed by manufactured outrage at some innocuous comments.
Argue his words' appropriateness if you want - whether his "gaffes" were inappropriate or not is debatable, as is whether or not a university president should try to be funny - but that's really not the point. The point is that we've just said to the nearly 60,000 students at The Ohio State University that the man's accomplishments mean nothing, and that making sure some people's feelings don't get hurt means everything.
When did we as a nation decide that every mistake a public official makes is immediate cause for firing? And more importantly, do we honestly think teaching by firing squad is the best way for a man to "learn his lesson?"

cajunbuckeye's picture

Starts slow clap, slowly rises to his feet,whistles loudly,begins to cheer wildly.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

jaxbuckeye's picture

Andy,
VERY well said.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Brace yourselves for this kind of stuff:
 

I'm pretty sure Penn State's got OSU beat on both counts, but anyway...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Then there's this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GenoEspn/status/342002903881486337?p=v

He deleted the responses. lol

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

GODOFWARBUCKEYE's picture

I want to punch Matt in the face because he's a Buckeye hating douche!!! Now that's crazy..
 

"GIMMIE THAT BEAT FOOL!!! IT'S A FULL TIME JACK MOVE" Ice Cube jack for beats..

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Sounds like Hayes has heard from some people who have reminded him of the multiple times he's predicted bowl doom for the Buckeyes and been proven wrong. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Bucksfan's picture

Hayes's wife is a Buckeye fan, apparently.  OBVIOUSLY he sleeps in the garage.

spqr2008's picture

I really want to decimate ESPNs staff.  Starting with Wojo and Mark May( I'm rigging the straws for their lots)

CincyOSU's picture

Why stop at ESPN? The entire national media has been all over this.

spqr2008's picture

That works for me.  Now who will help me mail them their straws?

Poison nuts's picture

Just read the article...in which Matt Hayes calls the OSU fanbase vacuous, arrogant, crazy, & ignorant. He used those words. I left a comment which asked why, as I understand, it's bad for Gee to say what he did about Notre Dame, the SEC, etc..but Mr. Hayes as a journalist can call OSU's entire fanbase a variety of shitty names? Interesting...Here come the assholes all over again - this will all be a way for the outraged media to bring up Tatgate, Tressel, & even Urban's departure from UF as much as possible...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Someone needs to take Hayes to task on why tOSU stakeholders would defend Gee. His approachability, his being an advocate and spokesman for the state, his fundraising, the unprecedented growth of the university under his stewardship, the major improvement of the school's academic rating, the major improvement of the school's faculty, and like Ramzy pointed out yesterday -- his ability to shake up the higher education mindset and not accept "this is how we've always done it". None of that has anything to do with athletics. So I guess Hayes is unable to comprehend how those qualities are unique and exceptional and maybe something that this "culture" might want to keep around.
Fuck you Matt Hayes... asshole.

BSTP DeCon's picture

I can't stand the media and all that they do. 
You will surely be missed and are much appreciated, Dr. Gordon Gee...

William's picture

Someone in the Class of 2015 has started a petition to have Gee reinstated by the BoT. While it is highly unlikely that this would ever occur, it will at least inform the BoT of the student body's view on Gee's 'retirement.' 
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-board-of-trustees-of-the-ohio-state-university-to-allow-e-gordon-gee-to-continue-to-serve-as-president-of-the-ohio-state#share

buckeyenut10's picture

I signed this petition not because I think it will work or because I think it'll somehow sway the BoT, but because I think Gee deserves to know how many people cared for him.

LexingtonBuckeye's picture

I know what BoT is supposed to mean, but every time I read it, I always think of it as "Board of Thrones". Anyone else?
Who would Gee be in the GoT world? I'll leave that to the masses.

Deadly Nuts's picture

Tressel should have fired him when he had the chance.....
 
lol....
 
Anyways, Gee was AWESOME! Sucks that the AP bastards had to screw it up.
The only respect I have for the AP is ranking the football team last year.

LEBRON

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Five years ago, if you would have told me how Tressel and Gee would be forced out, and the stories of why, I would have laughed in your face. I wouldn't believe that one, or a small series of decisions, on the part of JT and a series of comments by Gee would lead to their demise. I would have argued that we all make mistakes, and that these men providing so many outstanding qualities and attributes that it just couldn't happen that way. I would have pointed to the countless mistakes other university presidents and football coaches have made, and continued along with their work. Today, I'm disheartened. 

thekornidentity's picture

What happened to our society that nobody can joke anymore? It seems like everybody has to be politically correct 100% of the time.

“Nothing that comes easy in this world is worth a damn.” -Woody Hayes

Whosisbrew's picture

While I certainly believed that Gee should have displayed a little more decorum in his approach to public speaking, there's absolutely no reason such behavior should lead to this. I'm utterly blindsided by this news.

Hovenaut's picture

Just a moment to offer my thanks to President Gee.

His good far outweighed the bad - I wish the media would take full account of what the man has done.

Time for the Ohio State community to stand together, yet again.

And this too shall pass.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

WildMan Leather and Lace's picture

Good.  Can't trust those damn Mormons anyway.

rdubs's picture

So those of you downvoting this are missing a pretty funny joke.

LadyBuck's picture

Good grief. I understand that his comments were less than kosher, but the media just took things out of context and ran with it. At the time and place, it was a joke. On a piece of paper, people find it "offensive." The fact that ESPN got our university president and head coach to resign is more than ridiculous, it is obscene. A sports media outlet getting the president of a major university fired is not right, in my opinion.

spqr2008's picture

Someone do a up vote for me.  IPhone doesn't always work right.

cajunbuckeye's picture

I'm on it.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

Hovenaut's picture

Here's another, know the feeling.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

cajunbuckeye's picture

I had the opportunity to meet Gordon Gee at the 2011 Sugar Bowl. I was surprised at how "approachable" he was. He was a fantastic Ambassador for tOSU.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

LadyBuck's picture

So, this is a story per my friend: Gee crashed an engineering frat party one year that's open to all engineers. He went around, and started talking to people. Suddenly we went "Okay guys, time to check your IDs..... Just kidding!" Can you understand why students love him?

AndyVance's picture

Right on, my Cajun friend - the most approachable man of his stature/position in the history of the business, and most certainly in the biz today.

jaxbuckeye's picture

What a freaking JOKE!  Once again the pious, holier-than-thou minority win.  Sick of this PC garbage!

rdubs's picture

As many of you may remember, my father served as president of the Athletic Council (and introduced Gee prior to his infamous comments), so I had an opportunity to travel with the official party to both the Rose Bowl and Gator Bowl (could have gone to the Sugar Bowl but was in Hawaii about to get married).  
On the flights to LA and Jacksonville, I am not sure that Gee sat down at all. He walked the length of the plane several times talking with everyone in the group.  He made each person feel as if their story was important to him and shared several jokes along the way.  I talked to him about my work for several minutes and loved every minute of it.  
Then when I saw him at a homecoming event this past year, he remembered me and where I work.  That is the type of guy he was and that is the type of person that can't be fully replaced.  My dad retired last week, so between that and Gee's retirement I probably won't see him again, but I certainly won't forget him any time soon.
And for those of you who think that his supporters are blinded by our Buckeye affiliation, he was considered the best college president by Time magazine, so we aren't the only ones who think he will be hard if not impossible to truly replace:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1937938_19379...
 

Hovenaut's picture

That's the Ohio State, the E. Gordon Gee, that the media, sports or otherwise, don't have the backbone to report.

Thanks for sharing RDUBS, exactly the kind of rebuttal to the vitriol we'll continue to deal with as this saga continues.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

blendking's picture

He was an embarrassment to the university.  Thank god!

Chip Smith

cajunbuckeye's picture

That's a capital G. Believe much?

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

SeattleBuckeye's picture

PRAISE GOD!!!  PRRRRAISE JESUS!!!

Bucks43201's picture

Blendking - I hope you're never in s position of power or authority some day...you lack a spine.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

BuckGnome's picture

I hereby propose the nomination of James Patrick Tressel for President of THE Ohio State University.
 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

9-1. Same as his record against M*chigan.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

jaxbuckeye's picture

No where near campus so I couldn't facilitate this, but if Paterno got a protest, what about Gee?  I would think that if he truly is beloved by the student body, there should be SOME type of response.  No?

heartofabuckeye's picture

Really? All of these comments for a douche that should of got fired with Tress, yet especially OSmith? If ur firing Tressel, then by all means let's clean house. Everyone here knows damn well that Gee(k) and Gene hung him out to draw the coyotes closer to the lawn. Gimme a break! It's like hunting gators with the one that wouldn't shoot but is willing to pull the beast in the boat so both of you get snapped at !!!!

LadyBuck's picture

I take it you neither met Gee or have been around campus to see what he's been doing lately there.

jaxbuckeye's picture

He's a douche?  Please, provide supporting facts.  He's a douche because he made a couple of bad comments/jokes?  I'm sure YOUR holiness has never done such a thing, otherwise your screen name would read: heartofadouche.
Go back to your glass house, hypocrite.

BME_Buckeye's picture

This will not end well for you! 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

brandonbauer87's picture

Do you have your own thoughts, or do you speak purely in analogies and hyperbole?

Buckeyeneer's picture

People know who my university's president is. Who else can say that?

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University

05Buckeye's picture

The media, especially the talking heads at ESECPN and SECBS are strongly criticizing Gordon Gee and believe he should be gone.
It was just 5 years ago that Dana Jacobson, then of ESPN and now with CBS, said "F--- Jesus" at a public event for Mike Golic. ESPN suspended her a week.
 
Sad day in Columbus.

45OH4IO's picture

Holy crap, I thought Gee was black! My whole world has been turned upside down...

Maffro's picture

A much more sensible article that what the SportingNews douchebag wrote.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130604/gee-resi...

brandonbauer87's picture

Now that I've had some time to think about this, I'll try to elaborate a little. It feels worse than Tressel. When JT hit the road, most of us understood. I'll defend anything Dr. Gee has ever said. It seems as though the media is throwing stones from glass houses. I hope Gee has decided this on his own, but I seriously doubt it. You just can't replace him. There was OSU before him and will be after, but it just won't be the same going forward. We had the cool president. 

Yamosu's picture

I have always supported Gordan Gee and will miss him. 
That said, I am one who think the media is at fault for this.  I think that if Gee wanted to stick around, he could have.  Instead, I think he realized that he did in fact make a mistake and that it would be easiest for someone new to come in and help run this great institution.  And while I am a huge fan of what Gordan Gee has done for Ohio State in his two terms as president, I am also not under the impression that Ohio State would not/will not be just as successful under someone else's tenor.  In Gee We Trust, but I trust in Ohio State more, and truly believe that this institution will continue to produce excellence long after Gee's retirement. 
Good luck to Gee, I hope that he continues to where Bowties on some exotic beach some place. 

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I've grown sick of this culture that promotes punishment for speaking your mind or telling an innocuous joke. Is this self-policing behavior a product of the government? Corporate America? So what if some CBS or ESPN sports writer got offended by Gee's comments? So what if some little old lady living in Peoria, Illinois got offended? So what if some people have never developed a sense of humor? That does NOT mean you push out a sitting school president, maybe the finest the school has ever seen just because someone got their poor little feelings hurt over 6 month old comments that didnt matter to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things (i.e. academia). What the hell is wrong with society? Is it the corporations that control the media or are we doing this to ourselves? If so, why???????????
I for one wish Gee wouldn't step down just to thumb his nose at every detractor out there. It would make me like and respect him even more than I already do.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

SeattleBuckeye's picture

Personally, I love innocuous jokes about Catholics and Poles.  Truth be told, I also don't see what's so terrible about making fun of blacks, jews, mexicans, women (skirts, I call 'em!), gays, and any man who wears a bundle of cloth on the top of his head (hilarious!).  If Gee had a failing, it's that his repertoire of slurs was too limited, and his audiences were too bound up by this PC nonsense to appreciate his wit.

9Route's picture

Seattle - put a sock in it already, bruh!

I'm just happy to be here

SeattleBuckeye's picture

More thought police!

andretolstoy's picture

I'm sad, but I don't think it's a tragedy. He should be able to speak his mind and not have to leave because of it. However, this doesn't mean he actually SHOULD say everything that comes to mind.
In listening to the broadcast I think the man was speaking realistically and being humorous. The ironic thing was that President Gee was talking about being 'cut throat' about expansion, yet he didn't filter his words because of it. He didn't break any rules but it turns out he truly didn't understand the culture. It's PC. If you want to disband it, you actually have to play it to do so. Those who thrive and feed off this current culture sit and wait for you to slip and pounce. You have to be disciplined and sometimes you have to learn the power of silence.  
We will find another good President. My hope is that we don't play the PC card and get someone in that position to appease the culture, rather someone who will fight it by playing.
I love Gee. He was President when I was in school. I will miss him. But we all have to learn the power of silence sometimes.   

BME_Buckeye's picture

Notre Dame and the SEC had no comment on Gee's retirement.

I was reading the ESPN write up for this and I found this nugget. I don't believe ESPN is out to get OSU but how cynical does ESPN have be to state the SEC has no comment. If anything, ESPN is the spokesperson for SEC and should issue a comment on their behalf. 
I also found this interesting

Gee didn't edit himself much Tuesday during a teleconference announcing his retirement, joking about the imposition of "this damn telephone call."
"I've only got a month to ruin the university," he quipped. "I've got to get at it."

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Gotta love Gee. lol

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

CowCat's picture

I have nothing against Gordon Gee.  I'm sad to see him go.   He was a happy-go-lucky guy who cared a lot.
However, I just knew he was done after this round of off-color remarks.  
I'll put it this way:  If your President is making personal apologies to Bret Bielema, he is no longer the unquestioned leader of your billion-dollar university.  He is now a liability -- no matter what good he has done.
It wasn't just one off-hand remark;  It was a whole series of remarks that made me wonder if he was drunk.  Seriously.
Also, it wasn't just the media.  I personally know graduates who were planning to stop donating until Gee was fired.
Sadly, it doesn't take much to undo a fantastic career.   See:  Hayes, Woody.   Knight, Bobby.   Tressel, Jim.  
I wish the best to Gordon Gee.  Hopefully he can stay affiliated with the university.
 
 

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

Haybucks's picture

I wholeheartedly agree.

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

OSUs12-OH's picture

@ COWCAT: Love seeing rational and down to earth comments.  It obvious that Gee was good OSU for a while.  However when you repeatedly make OSU look like we're better than everyone and above them too with these comments, then you need to go.  Once, ok, twice, you're looking at reprimands (which he received none), and now this.  Read below....

"However, I just knew he was done after this round of off-color remarks. " 

All that needs said^^

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

cinserious's picture

E. Gordon Gee's come around once in a lifetime, for all his good and bad attributes. OSU jumped the gun on this one.

Gone ham, be back soon...

nickma71's picture

I have no question about any statements he made? Don't you have an editor?

nickma71's picture

I have no question about any statements he made. I hope ESPN keeps repeating it thinking they will damage the OSU.

Jim's picture

Gee is/was the president of a major university, not a comic club.  Everything he says, every word, reflects on the university. Even if what he said was tongue-in-cheek, he never should have said it.  Why blame the press...they didn't make the utterances....they came from Gee.
His conduct at the Tressel press conference was laughable, now this.  If the guy is such a great fundraiser, how come OSU's endowment is only about a quarter of Michigan's, which is about to start another major fund drive.  Maybe Gee should have tried to be a bit more like Mary Sue Coleman, another great fundraiser, but without Gee's baggage.
Giving Gee a pass makes the OSU fan base seem in denial, strikingly similar to Penn State's fans who see Paterno as incapable of doing wrong.

-1 HS
M Man's picture

Since you brought Mary Sue Coleman into it...
She did lead a successful $3.2 billion dollar fundraising campaign for Michigan.  In the middle of a terrible economy.  That is a remarkable success for her.
But while Mary Sue Coleman may not have "Gee's baggage," she also doesn't have his personality.  She's a cold, calculating, p.c. robot.  Mary Sue Coleman has announced her retirement from Michigan, to take place in 2014 (that would have been such a superior way to ease Gordon Gee into retirement -- that is, to give him a year) and while there are the predictable and genuine thanks and praise rolling in for her, nobody in Ann Arbor is crying about it.
What I keep wondering about the Gordon Gee ouster is who does it serve?  What is the constituency that is happy about Gordon Gee's forced ouster?  Not students, apparently.  Not faculty, as far as I am aware.  Not alumni and donors, as far as I can tell.  Gee has committed no policy blunders.  He's performed exceptionally well.
So who gets satisfaction out of Gee's removal?  Sportswriters?  Newspaper reporters?  Pundits?

+1 HS
AndyVance's picture

What I keep wondering about the Gordon Gee ouster is who does it serve?  What is the constituency that is happy about Gordon Gee's forced ouster?  Not students, apparently.  Not faculty, as far as I am aware.  Not alumni and donors, as far as I can tell.  Gee has committed no policy blunders.  He's performed exceptionally well.
 
So who gets satisfaction out of Gee's removal?  Sportswriters?  Newspaper reporters?  Pundits?

This is probably the most insightful comment in this entire thread - in no way is the University better for Gee leaving now. He's about to turn 70, so he probably wasn't going to lead for another 20 years anyway, but forcing him out before his work is finished is a huge net loss for the University. No one outside of the chattering classes gains from this decision.

M Man's picture

Andy, I think it is also particularly bad that Gee's resignation is effective so fast -- July 1.  It could make for an awkward, rushed search. 
I see no reason why Gee could not have stayed on for a year, as is Mary Sue Coleman, while a careful and organized search proceeds.  The Trustees ought to be begging Gee to stay for a year.

AndyVance's picture

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too, hanging Gee's head above to mantle to appease the Fourth Estate while also keeping him glad-handing the influentials and saying to the students, "see, see, Gee's still going to be around, don't riot, please..."
There is at least some precedent for the interim President set-up at OSU; I think Alutto was interim before President Gee was officially on the job in '07, and I seem to recall that former President Jennings was interim between Kirwan and Holbrook, or perhaps between Gee and Kirwan (I can't remember and haven't gone back to look it up).
I'm sure they'll take their time with the search, because Alutto is already running the academic operation of the University, and apparently Gee is still going to be working the wine and cheese circuit and dropping by fraternity parties.
The bigger question is: who do they hire? The role of university president is changing, and Gee is no small part of the reason why. While he's a brilliant man in the academic sense, he's firmly proven that the biggest role of the president has nothing to do with leading the faculty, but rather of setting the vision, the agenda, leading the charge, and rallying the various constituencies. Who can do that next?
Archie Griffin, perhaps? Okay, he's not a traditional academic, but then again, neither is newly-minted Purdue President Mitch Daniels, the former Governor of Indiana. Maybe you don't have to be a traditional professorial-type to helm the modern university...

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Well said, as usual, M Man. Gee committed the "crime" of not being, shall we say, politically correct, so I'm sure there is some constituency out there, who feel smugly served by this.
On college campuses, take your pick, as there are many to choose from. Among the chattering class, from what I have seen and read, much of it comes down to bad journalism or laziness by news organizations not really doing their research.
Last night, one of my local TV news programs started off with "Gee made offensive remarks about Catholics"...no context or understanding of the why, what, where.....and no further explanation. If news organizations can't get something like this right, what else do they report incorrectly?
Don Henley had it right, give us dirty laundry. 

Haybucks's picture

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

zbd's picture

Gee was an embarrassment nationwide. These same biased OSU fans still trying to defend lying Tressel, the selling of memorabilia by players and Maurice Clarett carrying guns to rob people. 

9Route's picture

ZBD - YOU are embarrassment

I'm just happy to be here

spqr2008's picture

ZBD, there's a difference between a joke, a lie, an NCAA infraction, and an actual crime.  The difference is that two of them are serious, one a serious violation of individual liberties, and one is meant to be funny.  The idea that certain people were "so offended" that Gee had to resign just shows how overly sensitive people are, and how a vocal minority will go out of its way to have victim status to reap monetary gains and social power.  It is pathetic to have to watch what you say because someone will get offended.  However takes offense needs to move to North Korea, where there is no such thing as speaking your mind, because it's a totalitarian state.
 

OSUs12-OH's picture

It's not national perceptions folks...it's his words that are sometimes just as bad as his actions (whether he's raised billions or not...he can't say or do what ever he wants is the problem SO many aren't seeing for some strange reason).  This is still a place to publicly give your opinion (I've noticed the DVs for anything other than Gee's the best.  There are two sides to every story or opinion...just saying before I get shredded for mine).  
My opinion hasn't changed and I knew the university was going to force him into retirement.  It's time...the next president will raise just as much $$ and say a lot less  stupid shit ill-advised statements and OSU will be better for it.  We don't need anymore media attention unless it's good things like winning football games or other sporting events.  As well as showing the world what a great university OSU is.  Leave the PR talk to the PR people bc obviously that was Gee's downfall.  I bet you ten to one the next Pres. won't be saying anything but what they tell him or her.  That's how it should be...not sure why we keep defending a 69 year old man that knew what he was saying all those times was WRONG.
Good luck to him in his retirement...now he can say whatever the hell he wants;-)

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

causeicouldntgo43's picture

We are unfortunately losing our sense of humor as a nation - this proves it. Institutions of higher learning, including my beloved OSU, all seem to have major factions that have little tolerance for those who disagree with their sensibilities and their notions of what is politically correct. So maybe live by the PC sword (being a university president), die by the PC sword (must always be watchful of what you say or else) is apt? Guess EGG felt he had to fall on the sword....

TWCBUCKEYE's picture

July 1st will be the day all of Columbus wears a bow tie in respect to a legend.

"Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the [Mark May] kicked out of you."