Storm Klein Reinstated

By Kyle Rowland on August 23, 2012 at 8:41p
98 Comments

Ohio State senior linebacker Storm Klein has been reinstated to the team following a reduction of domestic violence charges. Head coach Urban Meyer made the announcement Thursday night.

Klein will be suspended a minimum of two games. 

“As I had indicated previously, if there are any changes in the charges against Storm, I would re-evaluate his status,” Meyer said. “The charges that would have violated our core values have been totally dismissed. I have spoken extensively to members of both families and that has prompted me to re-assess his situation and allow him back.”

Klein was arrested in July and charged with domestic violence after allegedly striking the mother of his child. The day after the alleged incident, Meyer dismissed Klein from the football team. On Wednesday, Klein plead to a lesser charge of misdemeanor disorderly conduct. A Franklin County judge sentenced Klein to 18 months probation and fined him court costs. 

Klein started 10 games in 2011, but was passed over on the depth chart in spring practice. 

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ATXbucknut's picture

Tough call to make. On the one hand, you want to see that a guy who hits his girlfriend is duly punished. On the other hand, you want to see the guy rehabilitated and in a structured environment (like a football program) that will help mold him into a real man.  The Urb may take some flack for his decision, but I think two games is about right. It seems like an adequate punishment, but gives him the chance to rehabilitate and grow. Certainly cheaper than throwing him in jail, in any event (which would be overkill IMO).

CC's picture

You convicted him of a crime he was not charged with.

Jack Fu's picture

1.) An internet commenter can't "convict" someone of anything.
2.) Hell yes he was charged with domestic violence and assault. Says so right there on the docket. The state and the defense stipulated that he would be convicted of a reduced charge. That doesn't mean he wasn't charged with the original crime.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

That doesn't mean he wasn't charged with the original crime.

Because the domestic violence charge was dropped doesn't mean a lot of other things, too. It doesn't mean that Klein doesn't torture kittens. It doesn't mean that Klein didn't drink 18 Redbulls before meeting with Meyer to discuss his reinstatement.
In other words, we don't know what happened. Right?

Jack Fu's picture

Aside from the fact that "you weren't there" and "no one KNOWS what happened" can basically be said about absolutely anything that ever happens that isn't televised for a large audience to see (and even then, you would undoubtedly get a few nutbars out there who would concoct "we never landed on the moon"-type conspiracy theories, if it suited their arguments or worldview), that's completely beside the point. The commenter above said that another commenter was talking about a crime that Klein "was not charged with." That's patently false: he was charged with those crimes, and, for whatever reason, the prosecution and defense tried to settle on a conviction for a lesser crime.

TatumRuled's picture

How's it going to look for Urb and Ohio State if (or when) Klein commits another altercation towards a woman? "Men" with these issues just don't stop, 99.9% of them repeat.

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

CC's picture

Please cite a source for the 99.9% figure.

Kyle Rowland's picture

Agree. I'd say the added suspension sends the right message. 

btalbert25's picture

Meh, he's not going to play much, his scholarship couldn't be banked anyway, always need someone to carry water bottles and put helmet stickers on. 

CC's picture

He started 10 games last year with virtually the same set of lbs.

Buckeyejason's picture

Voice of reason. People want to nail him to the cross for something they weren't there to witness..and apparently Sabino and Grant(who we haven't seen shit from yet) are head and shoulders better then Klein. Fans are so cut throat its pretty sickening..

BUCKEYES BABY!

btalbert25's picture

I never nailed him to a cross.  He played a lot of HORRIBLE FOOTBALL last year.  If he's equally as bad this year, I'm find with burying him on the bench and letting guys who will be here when there's meaningful football to play.  He's going to be in the doghouse, if other guys are similarly as bad but are an extremely talented sophomore, or a team captain senior, they are going to get more PT than the guy who has had more than one instance where he's been in trouble.  Keep him for the depth, but you can't bank his schollie.  Hopefully he uses this year to complete his education and everything his lawyer was stumping about wasn't a bunch of BS. 
 

Buckeyejason's picture

He played a lot of horrible football huh? SO DID THE WHOLE TEAM!!! Why don't we just demote half the players from last year and play all freshman.

BUCKEYES BABY!

theDuke's picture

^This.
Klein was absolutely horrible last year.  He was always out of position and he's incredibly slow for a Mike. Not exactly a good combination.

theDuke

Buckeyejason's picture

Sabino was always out of place..missed tackles, looked slow. Why does everyone not care that he's starting again? 
And  you dont have to run a 4.4 to play Mike..Anthony Schlegal was probably slower then Storn Klein. 

BUCKEYES BABY!

btalbert25's picture

Sabino has been selected as a team captain, meaning that, even if he didn't play very well there's value in having him around.  I said above, if a guy is equally as bad, but has the intangibles and leadership, he'll play instead of Klein.  Thing about Klein is, he probably doesn't have much room to grow, where Grant, Sabino, and any one else who will see playing time at LB, do.  Klein will get some PT to be sure, but I'd rather have a young guy with a HUGE ceiling in there taking his lumps in a year that doesn't count instead of a slow senior who really isn't any better this year than his freshman year.  If we are going to have a senior like that get a lot of PT I want a guy that the staff has deemed worthy of being a team captain. 
I don't give a damn about the crime or any of that other business, I didn't like Klein on the field this year, I certainly don't like the idea of guy who was bad last year AND missed conditioning and camp this year.  He'll play in garbage time, and God forbid if one of the good LB's or other guys gets hurt. 
I know you like to be contrary, so you are taking up for the guy and arguing for him, and I get that.  My comments, though have been strictly about the dude and how he plays football which is not good, and he's missed a ton of crucial work this off season due to his own actions.  If he were a JR and they could of banked that scholly or used it for the 2013 class, no doubt he'd be gone.  They couldn't bank the scholly so he's going to take up space on the bench and hopefully finishes a degree this year while it's still free.

Buckeyejason's picture

Fair enough, you make good points and I cant say I  disagree much. As far as saying  Sabino having more room to grow than Klein is pretty inaccurate if you keep in mind that Sabinos been here since 2008..had a chance to sit and learn behind Laurinaitis and B-Rolle, as well as reshshirting a year yet still looked mediocre out there last season.
Either way it doesn't matter..Klein or Sabino aren't stars and I'm sure Meyer and Fickell realize that. They are really counting on Shazier and Grant to be great.

BUCKEYES BABY!

btalbert25's picture

I think with Sabino he posses more tools than Klein though, that's what I mean.  His problems have mostly been between the ears.  Thinking and not reacting etc.  Sounds like, and it's only practice so you never really know until they hit the field in a game situation, that Sabino has been much improved.  I'm not a Sabino groupie or anything, he's done little to prove he's a much better option than Klein, I just think he is a gifted athlete that in the long run could improve much more than Klein could. 
Shazier and Grant are definitely the keys, and the guys who need to see the field most this year so the team is better positioned for the future.

Buckeyejason's picture

Is it me or does Sabino look the same way physically as he did when we recruited him lol? Looks like he hasn't gained a pound of muscle in 5 years. I always wonder that lol.

BUCKEYES BABY!

cinserious's picture

the reason fans are so cutthroat is because every single day all we hear is two blithering IDIOTS on 1460 "the fan" radio blasting and badmouthing Storm Klein as if they actually saw what went down that night. I would absolutely LOVE to see the same situation happen to the 'commonman and the torg' where they get into an argument with their spouses,a neighbor calls the cops and his 'holier-than-thou' ass gets put in the slammer. 

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

SilverBullet's picture

^^^So what does that mean?...Joe Bauserman saw plenty of action last year, that dosen't mean a  thing with a new coaching staff thats focused on playing "the best" players no politics involved.

osu07asu10's picture

I had a strong stance to keep him off. But if Meyer, and in this case, more importantly Fickell welcome him back then that is that.
Welcome back. Lesson learned, contribute to something great this year.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

TheHannimal's picture

Garbage. Show a little class and clean this place up.
You sleep with a dog, you're gonna get fleas.
Boot the kid.

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

Your mentality is what is wrong with this society these days. Too quick to pass judgement on something you do not have all the facts on. You have nothing but third person info on. Let me understand correctly, you have never screwed up ever and never deserved a second chance? Do NOT get me wrong I do NOT tolerate violence against women by any means. But I also have been in a relationship that I have had to physically move my girlfriend (at the time) out of my way to get out of the door to our condo to remove myself from the heated argument/situation that I did not start. After doing so my crazy ass ex tried to say that I hurt her and that she was calling the police. I simply moved her out of my way to get out of the condo so things did not escalate anymore. I left for several hours to let her and myself cool down so we could communicate like grown respectable adults.
Again I do NOT tolerate any type of violence towards women or children, be it mental or physical since my mother was beaten by my bioligical father. There is NO room for it our society or in this world. 
Women and men can act extremely ignorant in domestic quarrels. Especially women when they know that the law will side with them much more quickly due to them being a female. Some women are quick to use this strategy to achieve what they want out of the dispute. I have witnessed this many other times with females in other relationships as well. So have some empathy and try to understand the whole situation before you pass judgement like your shit does not stink.
O-H
FAMILY!!!

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

At the same time I whole heartedly feel if he at all violently touched her in the wrong way he should not see this program again. I do not know this info so I will not pass judgement here. That is why we have a head ball coach, and a great one at that. I strongly believe that this young women's family is not going to lie about the situation to further Storm's career over their daughter/sister/granddaughter/niece/cousin or whoever she might be to her family's safety. 
I believe that the punishment is in the right. Help the young man with his issues with support system they have in place and not in prison systems. Cause we all know how well that rehabilitates our criminals.

TheHannimal's picture

Your whole rebuttal is preaching about not passing judgement, yet your whole rebuttal is passing judgement against me.
He was already on his second chance after his altercation 2 years ago.  That is now 2 violent crimes he is mixed up in - convicted or not.  If you're not guilty to anything you dont accept pleas of guilt to other charges.
I never said my shit doesnt stink.  What I am saying is that I am sick of all the scandals, crimes, etc.  There are 1000s of D1 athletes who manage to work through society and not get charged with crimes, preform well in the classroom and in the streets, while also competing at a high level.  I am all for second chances but when your name repeatedly keeps coming up in legal issues, we dont need it.  He had his second chance.  College is also about learning life lessons...a huge life lesson is that of accountability.
I can also fully understand partying issues like drinking and smoking pot...but when it comes to violence, felonies, etc...GTFO.  I would love for my university to uphold standards, stick to them and be a consistent beacon of class.

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

Undserstood and Agreed.

WoodysGlasses's picture

Two games for abusing a woman?  That seems, uh, a little light.  I may be in the minority, but this is OSU, not the SEC, and I don't like this at all.

Catch 5's picture

Really? After the year the B10 has had, you still gonna come with this attitude toward the SEC? Say what you want about Les Miles, but he had the cajones to boot the most popular guy off his team. Same with Chizik and Richt. All those guys have had to kick stars off their team, and they didn't find excuses to keep them.

(Not an accusation of Meyer as I think he made the right call here, but rather a defense of the SEC as portrayed here)

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

DetroitBuckeye's picture

If he wasn't an undersized overrated db do you think he would've been kicked off of the team, Morris Claiborne never got kicked off the team interesting how it works isn't it.  That is like giving credit to Ohio state for kicking Jamaal Berry off of the team.

 
btalbert25's picture

Wait Wait Wait so you aren't giving Les Miles credit for kicking a consensus All American and the Bednarik award winner and a guy who was emotionally the heart and soul of that team off of his preseason top 3 team?   Then you are going to compare it to kicking Jamaal Berry who did absolutely nothing for this program off the team? 
I get that there's an inferiority complex when it concerns the B1G but are you really serious?  Take the blinders off man, it was HUGE for Miles to excuse him from their program. 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

Jamaal Berry was a huge recruit coming in from south florida, no I wouldn't exactly compare it.  However you do also have to realize that ALL coaches play favorites and miles is no difference.  It wasn't huge because all Mathieu did was return kicks in games that they would've won anyways.  In fact, I would argue that there team improved by losing him seeing as how much he got owned in the national title game.

 
btalbert25's picture

Well, how many games did Teddy Ginn Jr do the same thing?  Scored TD's and returned kicks in games we would of won anyway?  
Personally, who gives a shit if Berry was a highly rated recruit, he did NOTHING in college.  I don't bet a horse that has lost 10 strait races simply because he's from Seattle Slew.  What he did in high school meant absolutely nothing once he hit college.  See Moe Wells. 
He played poorly in the national title game, 1 game the whole year.  There was quite a stretch of the year where people were talking about him for Heisman.  Also, because of his play late in the first half and early in the 2nd half against Georgia, LSU was able to pull away and ultimately blow out the Dogs in the SEC title game.  
That dismissal was nothing like booting Berry from Ohio State. 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

Totally different story as Ted ginn spreaded the offense out and basically made it go.  Matheiu is a nice play, don't make les miles out to be a saint for cutting him.  I used Jamaal Berry as an example because of how much he messed up your right it doesn't matter at all what he did in high school, still though if he wouldn't of messed up who knows what could've happened.  If you take Matheiu and think of him purely as a defensive back he is average that is my point.  Berry was a bad example your right.

 
btalbert25's picture

Agree to disagree I guess, but the Bednarik Award has nothing to do with special teams, and again he was a consensus All American.  Kicking him off the team wasn't an easy decision or something Miles wanted to do. 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

Your right it doesn't have anything at all to do with special teams, however don't you think that some of those exciting plays could maybe influence voters.  You are right about Miles though, obviously he didn't want him off of the team.  He wasn't great in coverage though, he is a good tackler I will give him that but he just isn't very good in coverage.

 
BlueBayou's picture

I live in Baton Rouge and the word around town is that LSU administrators didn't give Les Miles any choice.  Les didn't make the decision to cut the Honey Badger off the team most likely.  How the press conference was ran seemed to give this impression as well.  Les seemed to defer to the AD at important times.  
My kids go to school with siblings of a player on the team and they were saying the Honey Badger wasn't overly liked by his teammates.  So I'm not sure he was the heart and soul.
Keep in mind, I'm only sharing gossip from Baton Rouge to give the local pulse on the situation.  Feel free to make your own judgements.

Catch 5's picture

Actually, I thought the H.B. was pretty good in coverage as far as position goes. It was his height that bama exploited. But that's not the point. He was an all-american heisman finalist who was kicked off the team just a couple weeks before the start of the season. You want to say that the administration forced it? Fine! My point its that the SEC isn't bending over backwards to keep players on the team when they've broken the rules - even the big names. It wasn't the first time Miles (or the LSU admin) made that call either. Anyone remember Ryan Perriloux?

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

Pam's picture

I remember Perilloux was suspended about 3-4 times before he got booted.

theDuke's picture

two game suspension.  He's not going to see the field this year.

theDuke

FROMTHE18's picture

If he hit his girlfriend at all, whether itd be a punch, slap, or even a violent nudge, I feel he should not be a part of the OSU family. I understand the move Meyer has made and I believe he is doing what he should do as the Head Coach. However, if there is any slice of evidence that shows Klein making any physical aggression towards a woman, I do not want that type of person around the football program or The Ohio State University. One thing I have learned from the PSU  situation is that fans and administrators have failed to realize football is simply a SPORT and that realistic responses must be made to real/human actions that cause harm or damage to others. In my opinion, I think he should be suspended for more than half of the season. Even still, I'd be hesitant to think of Storm Klein as a Buckeye. He has done something completely unethical, regardless of how the legal system feels. What makes me more outraged is his attorney's attempt to act as if Klein is some sort of victim here with his "he will drop out if he doesnt get reinstated" approach. We are NOT Penn State and we do not victimize/try and find a middle ground with sub-human action. Good for Storm, he gets to come back with is tail between his legs, I just hope and pray that coward (accused) shows himself to be more of a man than his actions and excuses have demonstrated thus far.

Nkohl13's picture

I don mind that he is back on the team but it seems like after dropping in the depth chart and missing so much time conditiong and practicing it wouldnt be worth it for him. Plus you have all the other guys looking at you funny or talking behind your back. It just seems like it wouldnt be worth his time.

BuckeyeBoyer85's picture

His senior season not worth the time? Please, I would kill to play at the Shoe just once.

Wayne Woodrow Hayes

dmurder's picture

i personally disagree with the decision.
However, it shows strong character on the part of Meyer. If this player was Braxton miller it would be a tougher decision. The fact that Klein is 4 or 5th best linebacker shows that Meyer is into rebuilding young men not just a program.

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

^1000 on the paragraph

WoodysGlasses's picture

How does it show strong character from Meyer?  Sorry, but I have no interest in having women abusers on the team, and neither should Urban.

dmurder's picture

I just mean from the standpoint: If he is not that good "Which he is not" than it would be a lot easier for meyer to just say "sorry we don't want you around".
It is a lot harder to say no to someone who is good.
 

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

CC's picture

It's been done lots of times, Lou bolts at Arkansas, honey badger, the wideout at tenn.

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

Again my reply to THEHANNIMAL applies to you as well. Just because you have Woody in your handel does not mean you should pass judgement on something you do not have all the facts to. Quit being ignorant. Where has it been proven that he is a woman abuser??? The authorities both law and the football prorgram's have investigted, I am sure very touroughly. So who are you to stereotype a young man who was involved in a domestic dispute with a significant other? In mind you are not much better than a racist and are acting like a bigot. Show some empathy and try and understand a situation before you make statements like that.
 
O-H
FAMILY!!!

439LawDog's picture

First and foremost I am toatlly against any violence/bullying of anyone but especially females. But based on the fact that UfM says he spoke with both families I hope this was either an isolated incident or something that just got out of hand during the argument. I say let the kid graduate with his degree and hopefully this is a life altering lesson that he can learn from. That and he should be running stairs everyday until Coach Mariotti is tired of watching him sweat.

ODEEZ330's picture

don't agree but in urb i trust

O'Deez330
stark county football

johnblairgobucks's picture

News Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The horse is dead.  let's not beat it anymore.  
The decision has been made.  Storm probably won't see the feild except kickoff coverage.  You don't have to like the decision or root for the guy.  It be, what it be, though.
Hope Storm finds sucess in his future.  We all have things to learn in life, Storm is no different than you or I, in that respect.
Go Bucks!  I ready for some tailgating and 12 hrs of Sat. football!!!
 

LouGroza's picture

Anyone continuing to beat a dead horse = automatically dismissed from everything.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Completely agree with the decision. Important that he spoke with both families. Suspension seems appropriate.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Ahh Saturday's picture

This isn't Braxton or Simon.  Storm is unlikely to be a contributor to the team this season, so I think we can discount the most cynical motivations for Urban reinstating him.  Maybe Urban didn't want to set a precedent that would dismiss players for misdemeanors?  Maybe he decided to take seriously the findings of the court rather than punish Klein based on what he thought had happened.  Do any of us really know what went down there?  I admit that I can't shake the feeling that Storm probably shouldn't be on the team, but I don't think that type of feeling is sufficient.  I just hope for his sake that he makes something of the opportunity he's been given.
 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

I disagree, I think that he has a very good chance to be an integral part of the defense.  Where was Ryan Shazier on the depth chart at the start of last season, my point is that there is little to no depth at linebacker so one suspension or slip up or even poor performance and he is a starter again. I don't think that he should be on the team, that being said this does improve the team a lot in just giving them a senior linebacker for depth purposes.

 
 
439LawDog's picture

and your big brother is......Storm "Chris Brown" Klein

LouGroza's picture

Ouch, really, ouch.

osu07asu10's picture

hahaha thanks, needed the laugh

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Ahh Saturday's picture

Actually, if somebody wants to be cynical I suppose there's room here.  Since Storm is a senior booting him does nothing to increase the number of available schollies for '13.  One might wonder whether Storm would've been reinstated if he weren't a senior.

BuckeyeBoyer85's picture

It's a tough situation to assess. As any man/woman who has been in a relationship for some time and developed serious feelings can tell you, arguments can become very heated at times. In no way do I condone any physical manifestation of an argument, but unfortunately it happens quite often. I've lived and worked on campus for years and I can't tell you how many domestic disputes I have witnessed. A lot of times alcohol is involved. Im not sure if this was the case with Klein. It seems the parties have reconciled, and moved on. I agree it's a thin line and a shaky precedent for Meyer to deal with, but he wouldn't be the first to allow a player back after having a serious charge reduced (i.e. Bobby Bowden). Let's hope the staff has strict requirements and guidelines for Kleins full acceptance back on the team. Not sure I agree with it, but I can see how tough it is to make an influential decision regarding the life of a young man.

Wayne Woodrow Hayes

Seabass1974's picture

Why are people still saying he beat her? According to the actual reports filed it says he grabbed her in a bear type hug and removed her from breaking a bunch of stuff in the apartment. Edit: Comment deleted
 
Anyways, I was unsure but if the coach talk "extensively" to everyone involved then I have no problem with the call he made.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

Colonel Quaritch's picture

Ediit: Please refrain from making offensive comments like this: ""her being a woman immediately shouted abuse on Storm" 

"The question isn't who's going to let me, it's who's going to stop me." 

BuckeyeBoyer85's picture

I don't really like the use of your wording. "and her being a woman immediately shouted abuse on Storm" I would not assume just because she is a woman that she falsified abuse to get him in trouble.

Wayne Woodrow Hayes

Seabass1974's picture

I don't remember writing that. I thought I wrote something about trying to subdue a woman. It's been edited anyways. It wasn't my intention to upset anyone. It just seems like everyone convicted him instead of letting the system work.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

Elika's picture

I stopped reading the comments halfway through. Actually, I made it through about 4 of them, give or take. It's my understanding the charges were dropped because he didn't hit his girlfriend. Also my understanding that she completely recanted her story. Also my understanding that Meyer originally kicked him off the team because he allegedly abused her (going against one of the core principles of the program), but reinstated him when he found out he didn't.

I'm not a big Storm Klein fan, so this isn't really about me defending him, or Meyer's decision at all... but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I feel too many are missing the point here. There's no evidence to support he hit her. She's not even saying he hit her.

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

osu07asu10's picture

come on Elika! I'm the 4th one down and I supported the decision!

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

jfunk's picture

I'm not a big Storm Klein fan, so this isn't really about me defending him, or Meyer's decision at all... but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I feel too many are missing the point here. There's no evidence to support he hit her. She's not even saying he hit her.

 
Elika, you must have carpenter on your list of many talents because you just hit the nail on it's head. There are quite a few people, and not just on this site, who need to put down the pitchforks and realize the court of public opinion is not legally binding. We may all need to accept that maybe we didn't get all the facts on this story when it originally broke. 
Anyway, I think this whole Storm Klein saga has been a Kobayashi Maru--type scenario for UFM and he just pulled a Kirk on it. Meyer's handled this about as well as you could hope for, especially considering the situation.

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

Westonbuckeye's picture

I read that Storm actually called 911 and asked for instruction on how to remove his ex girlfriend from his apartment in a way that would not get him in any kind of trouble...did he not listened or did the police just had to act on a complain from her?

DallasTheologian's picture

The fact that he called 911 and asked how to legally remove her certainly lends credibility to Klein's innocence. Couple that with what Elika said and I will trust the people who know way more about this than I do (i.e. Meyer, The families involved, the authorities) to have made the right call.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Well said, Elika.
In addition, I don't get the logic of the commenters on this thread still taking a strong position that Klein should not have been reinstated. The coaches have more/better information concerning the matter than any of us do, possibly much more/better info. Why not give the benefit of doubt to the people who have the information, rather than blindly speculating based on your feelings about something you don't know that much about? 
Sure, it's possible that you're right - the coaches know that Klein is a terrible person, but they reinstated him, anyway. Sure, possible, but is that more likely than the default assumption (Occam's Razor)?
Besides me being confused about why the coaches would do such a self-defeating thing, if we assume you're right, what does that say about our new coaching staff?

KJR10's picture

I am a student at OSU and saw Storm at Barnes and Noble today. He was on his phone saying that he talked to the coaches today and that the process was taking longer than he thought. Guess it was him getting reinstated.
 

andretolstoy's picture

What ... IF..she..hit..him?
Then what, EH?
;)

Buckeyejason's picture

Good question. I dont think much would happen to be honest..

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andretolstoy's picture

No worries. ESPN likes us now...

DrBuckeyePete's picture

I really wish there was a way to rate comments in this forum because I would be down voting most of them... It is disturbing how obsessed some people get over football sometimes. This kid is innocent and deserves a second chance. Lay off of him... and the staff. They know what's going on more than any of you. 

Ohio State Alum '10 
Go Bucks! 

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I trust Urban's decision, especially after talking to both families.  I think that at worst, unless Storm was able to completely game the system, this was a decision to give a player the benefit of the doubt because it can't be proven that he did what he was accused of.  At best, this is a decision to not punish a player for something that he didn't do.  A two game suspension is perfectly fair.

Class of 2010.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

It's a minimum of two games, meaning it could be more, like 3 or 4. He will need that time to get into playing shape. In the meantime, expect the usual and predictable catcalls from the big mouths at CBS Sports.com, ESPN, Matt Hayes and other Ohio State and Urban Meyer haters, etc.

btalbert25's picture

I think people are on their high horse on both sides of this debate.  Maybe he didn't beat his girl, but he still got arrested and plead guilty to the disorderly conduct.  So the girl recanted her statement, that doesn't mean something didn't happen.  
At the same time, none of us know shit about what happened so calling for his head is stupid too.  If he did hit his girl, he deserves to get his ass beat.  She said he didn't, Meyer is convinced that's the case so let him come sit the bench his senior year. 
He's out of shape and hasn't had 1 snap in camp, he'll  be pretty useless to the team, but ya know what, depth is never a bad thing.  So as I said above, with him without him things really aren't going to be any different.  He may see some action, but with him or without him the team really isn't going to be any better or worse.  

Maestro's picture

Depth is good.  Good for Klein to have the charges dropped.  Hope he can learn from his experiences and move forward with his life.

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Buckeyes2014's picture

I think this a good move as long as he stays out of trouble. We need experience and depth at LB. So I think this is more of a tatical move.

GO BUCKEYES!

ColdBuckeye's picture

Storm,
Family offers unconditional love and thank God for that. Major college football, however, is a business. Please take advantage of this huge break and shoot forward in life.  Whether you make a single tackle or not, you have many people rooting for you. Good luck, young man.
 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Call me cynical, but it looks like the message here is "If you can work out a plea to a misdemeanor, all will be forgiven."
I'm not anti-Meyer by any stretch, but clearly things have not changed and will not change as much in the discipline department as many seem to want to believe.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

andretolstoy's picture

I got an ideer. Let's institute capital punishment for any and every player that is accused of something. That will surely change the discipline department.

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

I do not understand the mentality to pass judgement on something that you do not have all of the info on.
Why do people and yourself feel the need to pick up a torch and pitch fork and start making ignorant comments on things that they/you haven't the slightest clue on what is going on? Can you please enlighten me with your remarkable comment here?
Otherwise for your best interests I would stop making yourself look remarkably tritely.

Roman Brutus's picture

I find it difficult to believe how many people making comments act like they know better than coach Meyer and yet they don't know 10% of the information that he has. He interviewed both families and made a decision on all the information he had which is a ton more than anybody making a comment on this page. This attitude that you know better than anyone else is ludicrous.

Brutus's picture

I'm late to this discussion and I have nothing to add as to whether reinstating him was the right or wrong call.  Based on the info we have now, I think Meyer made a fair decision.  However, I know that I was very critical of Meyer at Florida when he had the 30+ arrests and yet seemed to do very little to discipline his players.  I realize now that I was on the outside looking in and really had no idea whether those kids had charges dropped or pled to lesser offenses or what.  Knowing a little more about this situation, I feel like I understand how and why Meyer made the decision he did.  I guess he probably faced many similar decisions at Florida but it was just easier for me to criticize him as a coach who recruited a bunch criminals and let them run roughshod. The problem is that his players have shown a pattern of bad/dumb behavior, at least starting with Florida, and he has shown a pattern of forgiving said behavior.  Sure, there was discipline, but at what point does he say enough is enough and create an environment where bad behavior simply isn't tolerated? I know college kids do stupid things, but I think 30+ arrests in six years is a statistically significant number.  He's had three already here (not counting the DUI).  I don't care if the worst thing his players do is pee in public and run from the police, but at some point the boys will be boys defense isn't good enough anymore.  Hopefully, this summer was just a rough patch and things start to settle down the further Meyer gets into his tenure at Ohio State.

Scott K's picture
  • Apparently "Innocent until proven guilty" no longer applies in this country.
  • No one here has all the facts, so you cannot speculate on what happened.
  • Key fact: Domestic abuse charge DROPPED = INNOCENT
  • Therefore, those that have never done a single thing wrong may judge the merits of punishment handed down.

I see that no one gets to judge...and to be honest, since the major charge was dropped it's no one's business except the families that are involved.
Domestic abuse is a serious matter, and is NEVER acceptable.  EVER.  However, this case is not a domestic abuse case as has been proven in court, so let it go.  Move along now...

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

SilverBullet33's picture

I'll take Meyer's and the courts assessments at face value. The rest of you can ride in on your high horses with your "side" to the story. In cases where I have no first hand knowledge I side with the ones who do. How do you self righteous reach your conclusions? That's two days in a row I've left this site disappointed in my fellow Buckeye fans. 
 
 

Boom777's picture

Where do some of you get your facts! He hit a girl! He hit a girl! No he didn't (this time). Some of you are hell bent on bashing this guy. Well he went through his due process, its done and there are some crazy women out there too! Some of you are a bunch of internet heroes who only respond "he hit a girl he should get punished" next time lets say it when there are FACTS to back it up! We weren't there ,if he "hit" her he would be in so much trouble. We have to put down the pitch forks and tell the mob to go home we have a judicial system and he went through it. At least our coach suspended him!

Wherever you are, there you be!

aj99's picture

I think a lot of are over reacting and I think it has to do with timing.  This Klein thing came at a terrible time.  We thought we were getting past some of this stuff and then kids start peeing in public and Kelin is accused of something horrible and the knee jerk reaction is to just be done with him.  That would be easy.  It's always easier to just throw someone out and be done with them rather than working through the situation.  In this case forgiveness and restoration are certainly harder for everyone involved because of the publicity and apparent lies the woman told.  However, it's without a doubt better for Klein and the team if he can work through this.  It's risky by Meyer, that's for sure.  But it's the right thing to do.  People make mistakes and life gets messy.  I'm glad Meyer is willing to take the risk and I hope Klein takes advantage of it and moves forward and makes us all proud.

Boxley's picture

Most incisive post on this topic. After reading the bashing on another site by staff members of Storm Klien , it is refeshing to read something resembling due process, clear thinking, and non conjecture.

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

gobucks96's picture

Meyer talked to both families before making a decision. He got as much of the story as he could here. I believe he made the right choice going from the fact he booted him and tried to find out everything that happened before bringing him back..
Kudos to coach for going the extra mile here...