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NCBuck1 on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:33pm #

Over/under for more than 7 players seeing the floor tonight?

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Chris Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:41pm #

Buford's going for 40 allowing Matta to empty the bench. 

Seriously, I guess I'll take the over with Scott getting a few minutes along with Thompson and Ravenel. 

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NCBuck1 on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:47pm #

Hope your right Chris. Our best run against the gophers came with our bench players on the floor.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:48pm #

Push? I'll take the over since I'll count on some ticky tack fouls putting us in foul trouble early.

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Chris Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:34pm #

Valentine, Kitts and Eades tonight. Valentine is easy to hate but Kitts is probably worse. 

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RecruitBuck on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:45pm #

I wish Amir and Sully would get more playing time together. *sigh*

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Chris Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:53pm #

Me too. I was hard on Amir early but he did improve. With Rav being pretty meh, I wish Thad would give him a few minutes here and there. I don't see it happening tonight though with Michigan being so small and in love with shooting threes. 

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 9:54pm #

Ravenel = foul in the first 2 minutes guaranteed.

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:02pm #

Shocking they pick scUM. They call us 'Ohio' after all. Like that is some kind of longstanding tradition. Damn, I hate ESPiN.

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dbit on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:02pm #

"The pride of columbus, Ohio...trey burke"

Kind of a slap in the face to michigan, no?

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:06pm #

That's what I thought.  Like you have to come down to Columbus to get your PG...nobody in Michigan good enough?

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:07pm #

Ugh.....

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:08pm #

Ugh again

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Tim on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:09pm #

Questionable call, good to see Novak run over though.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:09pm #

Yeah, he responds well to violence

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:09pm #

F this!

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:09pm #

Buford showing the awareness of a freshman...passing with 2 seconds left on the shot clock.  He's so bad.

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Nappy Mod on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:09pm #

I know this goes without saying, but I really hate Michigan

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:10pm #

BS

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:11pm #

Does anyone want to show up??

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:15pm #

Damn it!

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:17pm #

Buford looks like a freshman.  If he's playing 35 minutes a night, we have no chance.

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:21pm #

You have us off to a great start in the obnoxious irrational comments race.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:17pm #

Why aren't we moving the ball???

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The Braden on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:18pm #

I hate espn.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:20pm #

Love Thompson (and that aley-oop woulda been sweet) but get him outa there... we need Lenzelle's defense

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:20pm #

Are you watching? He was hurt before the under 16 timeout.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:24pm #

and he's back in now... yea i'm watching the game bro

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:26pm #

haha ok wasn't sure.  but yeah Lenzelle was bending over before that timeout.  not sure what happened.

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:19pm #

Really? He just took the ball away from him. WTF?

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:20pm #

Will Burford is the most inconsistant player in college bb. Has to be.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:22pm #

He has the worst shooting % on the team outside of Scott, Sibert, and Ross...and those last 2 pretty much don't play at all.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:23pm #

I'll raise you Tyshawn Taylor.  He is much better when he is good and at least as bad when he isn't.  (admittedly he is good more often, but the range from good to bad on Tyshawn is much wider)

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:23pm #

we are not stopping the ball in transition at all.

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michaec5 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:24pm #

we're rebounding like babies

~michaec5

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:25pm #

Thomas gets undercut...no foul.  cool.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:26pm #

and that is why sully should stay 4 years because he's going to have a short NBA career

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:31pm #

Thanks for the analysis, Mel.

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Nappy Mod on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:27pm #

This is terrible

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:28pm #

An AMIR WILLIAMS sighting.  wow.

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Chris Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:30pm #

Very surprised Amir about to check in. Glad to see it but didn't think that'd happen tonight with Michigan relying so heavily on the three.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:30pm #

we're missing a lot of shots but so is michigan... at this point i'm more concenred about our defense

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:32pm #

yeah, seriously, Michigan's missed 2 open layups already.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:30pm #

That was a charge???

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:32pm #

I think there should be more no calls in those situations.  I'd like to see a replay, but it looked like he was there after Buford was in the air.

EDIT: I stand corrected, but there wasn't much contact, I'll go back to my original statement that there should be more no-calls.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:36pm #

Flops

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:31pm #

SCREW BUFORD!!! He had Thomas open on the break, and I mean WIDE OPEN, under the basket....charge.  He has absolutely horrible awareness.

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BuckeyeJim on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:32pm #

That was a flop

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:34pm #

OSU shooting 8/19 with 6 turnovers and 4 assists.

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:35pm #

Buford seems to make A LOT of shots that end up being off set by fouls.

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BuckeyeJim on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:35pm #

The charge calls are sick

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:35pm #

I'm done with Buford.  He is horrible.  And now we're just jacking up 3's...I guess the players don't know they suck at it....

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:37pm #

Yes, we know you're done with Buford. We put two and two together the first time you commented on this thread.

October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:39pm #

Thanks, douche.

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:43pm #

Sure thing. I mean, I get releasing you're frustration on a college kid one or two times. But repeating yourself saying the same degrading thing towards the same college kid over and over again... Its just a tad unappealing.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:51pm #

What are you, his mom?

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:03pm #

You are just so witty!

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:05pm #

Maybe I'm mistaken, but didn't you call Urban Meyer's daughters slutbags?

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:14pm #

You are thinking of BuckeyeJason, sir. Easy mistake to make since our account names are similar.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:15pm #

My most sincere apology for that then.

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JakeBuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:18pm #

No worries

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:35pm #

Maybe if we flopped as well as these scum it'd be wrth it.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:36pm #

This is an ugly game, neither team has played any offense at all.  They just stand around for 25 seconds and force something inside.

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:37pm #

CLANG!

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:38pm #

Geez. Quit shooting J's. Can't we run a pick and roll, set some screens and drive? Our offense sucks.

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Tim on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:38pm #

Stop taking 3s, please.

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osubucks10 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:38pm #

Buford is fricken terrible when we actually need him

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:38pm #

keep the faith... these shots will start falling

O - H !

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The Braden on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:52pm #

I O!

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:02pm #

thanks... thought i was gonna be left hanging

yea, it's tough now, but we're missing everything and it's only a 5 pt game. This is our game to lose!

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:38pm #

Do our guards not realize Sully is back on the floor?? Stop jacking up 3's when you can't hit anything, dear lord.

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LABuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:39pm #

We need to send somebody out there to do the following:

1) Remove the lid off the basket.

2) Tell them to pass a few times before chucking three-pointers.

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:39pm #

OSU now 8/22 from the field with 7 turnovers. But at least we're outrebounding them 18-12.

 

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:41pm #

A little bit more passing than the MSU game, less isos to Sully, but a lot of outside jumpers with NOTHING falling....Michigan has no one inside, start running pick and rolls and take it to the rack.

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LABuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:42pm #

The entire team has gone cold at the same time.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:43pm #

Imagine that we run an offense and we get a bucket.  

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:45pm #

Sullinger still not hedging on ball screens. It's like an automatic open shot every time they run it. 

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:47pm #

I think he is too slow to help out that much.  As soon as he steps up it is a free dunk because he can't recover, especially if Burke is the one with the ball.

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:49pm #

If that's the case, UM will eventually realize they can run it every time down and always get a wide-open shot.  Not good.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:03pm #

There you go.  First play of the half...

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:48pm #

Hate that teams can be more physical than this team to beat them.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:49pm #

Can't believe I'm saying this...Thomas is about the only guy who's showed up.  Offensively at least - he can get away with guard Novak or whoever on defense.  This is a pathetic showing with first place on the line.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:51pm #

We are such a better team with Craft on the floor

Sully is our MVP, but Craft isn't far behind. This team just isn't the same with Scott running the point... and that's not a rip on Scott. Craft just sees the court

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:53pm #

and Craft plays D

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:54pm #

Quick notes...did Matta not play Ravenel at all? Williams over Rav??? Finally.

Shooting 38.5% as a team...Thomas at 4/7 is our best shooter %-wise. 7 TO's, NOTHING from the FT line or 3 pt range.  And only down 5.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:55pm #

Ravenal played a few mins.. came in before Amir

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:59pm #

That's what I thought but it's not showing up on the ESPN boxscore.

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Mush on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:57pm #

0-12 from behind the arc, no wonder they can hammer Sully underneath.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:59pm #

Did anybody hear that ESPN announcer refer to tOSU as "The Scarlet and Boo?" Pissed me OFF!!

 
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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:00pm #

Tonight it's more like Scarlet and Clang.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 10:59pm #

It was on the pre-game show...right before tip-off.

 
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DJ on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:00pm #

I'm a bad omen for Ohio State. I think they shoot about 8% in the times I've watched them this year.

And on another note, how insufferable is Michigan?

If nothing else: Marionaire.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:03pm #

get outa here DJ! You can read the post-game summary.

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Chris Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:01pm #

Terrible half. We fell in love with lazy offense taking 9 threes and turned it over 7 times leading to 9 mich points. We're shooting a healthy 10/17 from inside the arc. Defense is sluggish. Mich shooting only 38% but missed at least 4 wide open shots / layups. 

not sure why we abandoned attacking the zone from the elbows like Thomas was doing early. 

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:03pm #

They just keep rushing their shots...and are not waiting until they have some rebounders near the bucket.

 
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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:06pm #

Look at that...get it to Sully, good things happen.  coincidence?

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:06pm #

This game sucks.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:06pm #

Love Tank. Hate Novak.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:06pm #

Foul x3...\m/ \m/

 
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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:07pm #

Tank get a triple double tonight?

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:08pm #

Really...pulled up for a jumper??

 
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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:10pm #

That was the right play, they played good defense and he avoided the charge.  you just have to make that.  I think he presses when things don't go his way and he rushes his shot when that happens.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:08pm #

Seriously? Bufford? WTF?!?!

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:08pm #

They stopped the ball in transition and we missed a short J, we don't stop ball and they get another dunk.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:09pm #

Nice play LS3!

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:09pm #

Craft had a shot underneath!!

 
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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:09pm #

Pretty sad when you have a 3 on 2 and cannot even get an open shot.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:10pm #

Buford another no-show...2-9.  At least 3 of which would be classified as "circus shots"

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snoodogg22 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:10pm #

Brick

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:10pm #

OSU's 2nd half offense is every bit as dreadful as their 1st half offense. So far.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:11pm #

Does it seem the our transition defense is just a bit slow?

 
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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:11pm #

Transition offense is too.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:11pm #

Agreed.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:13pm #

no one steps up to stop the ball so they get too far in and then give up easy shots.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:13pm #

I would hate to wait for 3:00 remaining to make a comeback!! We should be destroying them...oh wait!! We can't...lol

 
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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:13pm #

Should put Tank, Thompson, Spoon, Ross and Craft in. Tell them to play like they are at the park. Not sure they could play D, but they would score.

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nightmuse on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:13pm #

I love if Thad would just say...Amir, Evan, Sam, Shannon, and Jordan...get out there

 

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miller2234 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:16pm #

Yup a definite roy williams move is needed.  or just get a technical and go beserk 

GO BUCKS

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:14pm #

So much for getting a bucket on a nice set play out of a timeout. #fail

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:14pm #

Outside of Thomas, I have no idea what everyone else is doing.  First place on the line...and awful decision making with no hustle getting back.  This team just makes you shake your head.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:15pm #

that is fucking bullshit... two calls in a row.

not a foul on Sully, not a foul on Craft

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DallasTheologian on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:15pm #

I say refs you say suck

Refs......

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:15pm #

Sully didn't look too winded to me while he was talking to the ref.

 
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miller2234 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:15pm #

Did any one see the SEC logo flash up before they showed the 1st half stats at halftime?  the incompetence of this network amazes me.  can we please lead a boycott?  

GO BUCKS

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:16pm #

Michigan looks like a Euro soccer team.  Never seen so much flopping in a B1G game.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:16pm #

Just need to keep feeding Tank the ball.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:17pm #

27 Freakin' point!!

 
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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:18pm #

30 Freakin' points!!

 
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snoodogg22 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:19pm #

We are garbage, getting worse instead of better as the season progresses!

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Illibuck on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:21pm #

I can't agree more, I've never seen a team regress so much.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:21pm #

I think that is in part because not many others play besides our starters.  You need the young guys to improve for the team to improve and we are not getting those guys any reps.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:21pm #

Agreed, don't see a lot of urgency with 1st place on the line.  kinda sad.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:19pm #

Looks like DT's gonna carry the team tonight!!

 
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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:19pm #

How sad is it that Thomas has 8 of our 10 2nd half points?? What the heck is everyone else doing?

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:20pm #

Failing down the stretch!! Would be nice to peak at the right time eh??

 
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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:21pm #

Getting their asses chewed off by Matta...lol

 
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evantosu30 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:21pm #

Games like this it really shows the lack of having senior leadership.. bufords demeanor just does not get it done.. Sullinger needs to stop whining to the ref

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:22pm #

Did he make it? I had my eyes shut...lol

 
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Buckeye Chuck on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:22pm #

Michigan ahead of us in fouls 9-8. So naturally, it's another "the refs are screwing us" game. I swear, if all you did was read Buckeye message boards, you'd think the last time our basketball team lost a fairly officiated game was 1995.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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DallasTheologian on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:25pm #

Yeah cause none of those charges were terrible calls

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:33pm #

You do realize Bilas is saying he thought there should be a foul like every 4-5 possessions that aren't called...he's said it maybe once or twice all game when Michigan had the ball.

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DallasTheologian on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:52pm #

How does that crow taste?

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Buckeye Chuck on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:09am #

??????

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DallasTheologian on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:13am #

The no call on the foul on Craft

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:23pm #

Yeah...but the bench gi eves effort...dumb ass!!

 
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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:24pm #

Hey guys not named the Tank...Thomas is outscoring all of you nearly 30 minutes into the game.  It's ridiculous.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:26pm #

Given the way the game's gone...we could be down 20!! SOooooo I reckon if we stay close...we have a chance!!

 
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BuckeyeJim on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:26pm #

I can't believe I am screaming at the tv

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:27pm #

just keep the faith in the starting 5... they will get us out of AA with a W

 

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:28pm #

Faith is kept over here!! I'm with ya!!

 
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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:28pm #

outside of D.T. the team is 9 for 29....Thomas is 6 for 10.  Go with the hot hand.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:29pm #

Is it too much to ask for a rebound??

 
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BuckeyeJim on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:29pm #

Oh yes! Go bucks

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:30pm #

When was the last time anyone saw Jared Sullinger play a whole game and not attempt a free throw? Either the refs are incompetent, or Michigan is the best defensive team of all time.

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Texas Buckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:30pm #

How we're down only 4 is amazing at this point to me.

It's true... We really are a bunch of nuts!
Go Bucks!

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BuckeyeJim on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:31pm #

DT DT DT

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:32pm #

Haha...Sullinger draws the ch...nah it's a block. ;)

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dbit on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:33pm #

exactly... I think that was thomas btw

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osubucks10 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:33pm #

of course... michigan calls

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:33pm #

Thomas gets hit and doesn't get foul calls more than anyone I have ever seen.  We fouled them on the other end, but I am pretty sure Thomas should have had an and 1 as well.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:34pm #

Novak undercut D.T. when he made the score 44-40...no call.  I'm sure Thomas just landed on his back on his own...

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:34pm #

Maybe we should challenge their perimeter shots!! Just sayin'.

 
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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:35pm #

Give it to Thomas and get out of the way.  No one else is showing up.

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BuckeyeNation on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:36pm #

Let's just face it guys... they just don't have any shooters! They be lucky to make the sweet 16 at this rate!

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741 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:36pm #

DT!

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osubucks10 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:36pm #

make up call for us

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BuckeyeJim on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:36pm #

Thad, tell DT to shoot more, not wb

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:37pm #

I think the team owes D.T. some beer!

 
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osubucks10 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:37pm #

buford, horrible

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741 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:37pm #

Jesus.

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:37pm #

CLANG!!

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:37pm #

so our 89% FT shooter can't make 1? god...

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DAVE on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:38pm #

What is Buford adding to the game right now? I don't understand why he is on the floor.

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:37pm #

William buford sucks big time. I borderline hate him. He hasnt showed up for any tough games.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:38pm #

Thomas - 23, the rest of his sorry teammates -20.

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:40pm #

I get it now.  You have to scream in order to get a foul call.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:40pm #

Novak is a bitch. Second dude he tried to undercut.

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Orlando Buckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:42pm #

Everything is a charge.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:43pm #

Bilas laughing at all the no calls.  Guess he hasn't called many big ten/ohio state games this year.

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:43pm #

MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS!!!

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:43pm #

Bilas: "I wonder how many times a guy has to get hit before a foul is called." Yes Jay, we've been wondering that all night.

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BuckNut1070 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:44pm #

It's a miracle it's still close!!

 
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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:44pm #

Bilas summed up my thoughts on these refs. How can the B1G allow these guys to continue to ref games?

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thatlillefty on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:45pm #

must have some dirt on Delaney

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dbit on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:44pm #

I will be quite impressed if Deshaun Thomas can come away from ann arbor with a win. 

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:45pm #

How about novak and buford for senior turd awards. Both are non existent as usual in big games. It could replace the senior class award.

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LABuckeye on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:45pm #

I feel like we're down by 20. I have no idea how it's this close.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:45pm #

This is pathetic.  Thomas has over 1/2 the points for the team and we're 37 minutes into the game.  I guess the rest of the team didn't realize 1st place was on the line...

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:45pm #

Michigan is really not a good basketball team. But tonight, Ohio State is worse.

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:47pm #

Thad took shannon scott over trey burke and we have to be reminded of it for 4 more years

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:48pm #

I love THomas, but he is awful at defense.

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:48pm #

Seriously with these step backs

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:49pm #

Thomas is 8/13 for 25 points.  The rest of the team is 11/33 from the floor for 49 points.  Good lord.

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:50pm #

Oh hey, we have 5 team fouls and the shot clock down to 15...nice foul Buford.

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:50pm #

No foul? Wow i hate big ten refs

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:51pm #

Trey burke is the best guard on the floor and we gave him to michigan

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:53pm #

Forget this...there could have been THREE 5 second calls in that one sequence with Burke/Craft.  These refs must be from Michigan because they couldn't count.

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Joe Staff on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:51pm #

Well that takes the cake.  Craft is absolutely mutilated on his way to the hoop, and there's no call.  Wow. Wow.  That is incompetence right there.

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Is it Saturday Yet on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:52pm #

These refs can go to hell.

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:53pm #

At least we wont have big ten refs in the tourney

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Mush on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:53pm #

Valentine wants in the spotlight again

 

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the419 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:54pm #

Erin andrews has contributed more to this game than buford

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OSUNeedles on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:55pm #

I think I am done watching basketball until the B10 fires their refs. This is unwatchable. Thank God for Bilas calling out how stupid they are.

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rdubs on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:55pm #

This is dumb.  why are any of the people with 3 or 4 fouls in and why didn't we foul.  that was the dumbest coaching job ever.

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OhioKris on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:58pm #

there was no point, the refs weren't going to let us win. 

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RedStorm45 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:56pm #

I don't know if I've seen a more pathetic showing since...last weekend.  It is completely frustrating watching this team.

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Hoody Wayes on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:29am #

Let's be clear: no more losin' to Michigan

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OhioKris on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:01am #

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osubucks10 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:57pm #

Typical Buford is all I can say.  Ready for him to score 30 vs. Illinois then suck again in a big game.

Don't understand the coaching at the end.

Can anyone explain this..down 3 with seconds left to not foul and get the ball back late with a few seconds left..Burke scores and it's over.

Ashamed and embarrassed.

 

 

 

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OhioKris on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:01am #

because we're not gonna play the Ref's game.

fuck it.

its one game that we weren't going to be a loud to win anyway.

moving on. 

we played like shit and were only down by 3 with a min left. 

not bad, but you can't beat the guys who call the game plus the team on the floor as well. 

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poguemahone on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:58pm #

Well, hopefully we can make it past the second round this year. 

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OSUkid23 on 18 Feb 2012 - 11:58pm #

lol Michigan fans saying the refs weren't against Ohio State because we had less fouls.

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RedStorm45 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:01am #

This is the most annoying excuse/reasoning ever.  The refs are just supposed to call fouls equally?? I hate that, I mean if OSU played a d3 school with less athletic players who just hacked more...the fouls "should" be the same?

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miller2234 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:45am #

it's not the equality factor its the fact that scUM had at least 6 calls go their way that shouldn't have and all you had to do was listen to Jay Bilas call them out each time.  The 3 charges in the first half were bogus our guys moving to avoid contact and Mi**igan defenders sliding to draw "charge", Sully not allowed to move in paint due to guys falling down everytime he backs down to the basket, craft getting mugged on a drive, thomas fouled three times before a foul called, and lenzelle called for traveling after a rebound and being taken out underneath.  You have to establish a pivot foot to travel and he wasn't able to for the guy under cutting him.  It's not always about how many fouls were called or who had more fouls.. usually how many fouls go uncalled is the real story... but with that said great teams don't go 8 minutes w/o fgs and find ways to win those games on the road by a couple (see UK @ Vandy).  good team just not as great as we've had

GO BUCKS

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RedStorm45 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:23am #

Alright...so Thomas goes for 25 and 14 on 13 shots...his teammates go for 26 and 21 on 36 shots.  Thomas 3-6 on 3's...everyone else is 0 for 9. Thomas shoots 6-7 from the FT line...everyone else goes 4-8.  Pathetic showing by everyone not named Thomas.

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Buckeye Chuck on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:00am #

Another game that a team that's remotely March-ready wins.

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ColdBuckeye on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:01am #

Ted Valentine can suck it

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Joe Staff on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:01am #

Will Buford is a no-show once again in a big game, shooting 3/12 from the field today.  OSU overall shot 19/49 with 12 turnovers and only 9 assists. We know they are capable of playing better than this. Why are they so often failing to achieve it?

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Buckeye Chuck on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:07am #

Sometimes teams have it all on paper, and it just doesn't come together for whatever reason. How else do you explain how disappointing Michigan State was last year?

Somehow, some way, Matta has to find a way to get some scoring off the bench or out of his backcourt. We won't get past the first weekend of the tournament playing this way. But instead of using this time to prepare for March, we're doing more of what hasn't worked.

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RedStorm45 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:05am #

I agree about the refs to an extent...really, 5 charges to 0 for Michigan? But, you've got to get over it.  I don't think I saw anyone jump stop in the lane coming down on a drive.  38% shooting isn't going to get it done.  You should be looking to everyone on the team not named D.T. for this pathetic showing.

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GlueFingers Lavelli on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:05am #

we just got dominated. We'll get bounced in the Elite 8 if were lucky.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

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toledobuckeyefanjim on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:07am #

Buford stunk again on the road. Sully needs another year of college. If he can't handle the lousy Wolverine no-names, he'll never be able to play in the pros.

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Lincoln on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:08am #

The refs sucked bad in that game, but lets be honest, if ANYONE plays tonight other than Tank then we win. Bufford, LenSmith, Thompson, and Craft have to atleast be capable of scoring the ball.

 

Pissed off, I think we suck right now and will be out early in the tourney, but I thought we were the shit last year and were going to win it all. What do I know?

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thatlillefty on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:15am #

Last year was THE YEAR; we were stacked with talent at all the right positions.

Honestly if Sully wasn't on this squad, expectations would be much lower right now. But is what it is, and it certainly hurts.

Fuck michigan.

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DefendYoungstown on 19 Feb 2012 - 1:24am #

Sully isn't as good as he thinks he is.

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DallasTheologian on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:08am #

Knew we would miss Diebler but couldn't have dreamed it would be this bad

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RedStorm45 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:09am #

Guess how many points we left at the FT line? 5.  And there's no way we win with 1/3 of our shots coming from the 3 point line.  I don't understand, we're one of the worst 3 pt shooting teams in the conference.  If it hasn't been there for 26 games, it's not going to be there in game 27.  Anyway, I think we just overrated how good this team is.  Very, very young.  Impossible to replace Diebler and Lighty (essentially, we have D.T. and Lenzelle instead of Diebs and Lighty...really, we thought we could just pick up where we left off?).  It is disappointing that we can't just manhandle guys like Novak and Douglass with our athleticisim.  Yet another year we won't be getting past the sweet 16 (I like Matta and all, but we've been out of the sweet 16 exactly one time since he's been here).

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RedStorm45 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:12am #

By the way, it's going to be almost impossible to get a 1 seed now.  Lose at MSU and an early round B1G tourney exit and we're looking at a 3 seed, if we're lucky.

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TLB on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:28am #

3 is the most we deserve.  Not a top 10 team

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LadyBuck on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:16am #

We did not want to win that game, and it showed in our lack of intensity. Ugh. It was ugly and brutal, and I kind of regret watching all 40 minutes of the game. 

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TLB on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:27am #

I am with you.  Lackluster and unispired, even after a couple other lackluster and uninspired games.  Maybe they just dont listen to coaching.

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Pam on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:34am #

I popped in "Tower Heist" as bad as it was, I don't regret giving up on the game.

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RedStorm45 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:23am #

I don't know where we go offensively.  It's pathetic.  There are no plays, no ball movement.  I've never seen a team regress so badly.  We are absolutely horrible at feeding the post.  Sully isn't passing out of double teams any more unless he's mobbed.  Where are we going to get perimeter scoring?? It takes Buford 12 shots to get 6 points.  We get ZERO scoring off the bench.  At this point, who care - throw in Ross.  He cannot possible shoot worse than what we've got right now.  Thomas gets 25 on 13 shots, everyone else combined gets 26 on 36 shots.  This is so sad right now.

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Poison nuts on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:27am #

I've been on here before defending this team and Matta. I still back them both - but it's getting very very hard. This team has struggled on the road all year...and now this. I had this gut feeling that they would be a special team this year - but I just can't see that being the case now. It just seems like they've been figured out all of the sudden and teams have the recipe to beat them. Without outside shooters & this type of play - they will be leaving the tourney early. How they handle MSU on the road will determine what their chances for this year are. Lose there and they leave before the sweet 16. Win and they have a chance to go far in the tourney. Either way - not playing well late in the year and that's a bad sign. I hope they rally and prove us wrong - but right now - not looking good.

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RedStorm45 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:32am #

The recipe with B1G refs and Teddy V is to push and hack Sully as much as possible.  Give them credit, it's working and he's getting frustrated.  At this point, just give Ross some time.  I mean, we're getting NO scoring off the bench.  Scott, Sibert, Thompson - none of them can shoot the 3.  Ross can't be any worse.

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Arizona_Buckeye on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:30am #

This team is unwatchable

 

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JasonBuck on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:45am #

Just another disappointing buckeyes basketball team....Matta isn't that good of a coach. When things heat up he folds!

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Bucks43201 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:48am #

I don't understand Matta choosing not to foul with just a 6-7 second differential, down 3, and scUM missing foul shots consistently. There was zero room for error with that coaching philosophy. Horrible officiating...very bad coaching.

p.s. Trey Burke pushes off all day.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

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miller2234 on 19 Feb 2012 - 12:57am #

only positive thing i can think right now is that at about this same time last year UCONN went 4-7 at the end of the reg. season and well the rest is history.  thing is this team has the talent to do it.. will they? probably not but anything is possible in the tourney.  get hot,, some upsets happen and we'll see.  hopefully the B1G season has prepared us better for the tournament this time. 

GO BUCKS

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Mush on 19 Feb 2012 - 1:07am #

New unwritten rule, if Will misses his first two 3's, he must drive hard to the bucket EVERY time! The kid shoots 89% FT's.....urgh

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Rooster Buckburn Mod on 19 Feb 2012 - 1:13am #

No surprises tonight as we see what I said after the first couple games this season and that is this team will greatly miss Deibler and Lighty.  Their replacements are talented, but young and not yet performing on that level.  Teams have figured out that if you double team and foul the thunder out of Sully - you're going to have a better chance to win.  

In the NCAA tourney I think it comes down to this - (particularly after the first round) if Buford is on we win and advance, if he's not (like tonight) we lose.  It's just where this team is at - a young and developing team devoid of strong 'take it to the rim' player (Lighty) and a consistent 3 point shooting threat (Deibler).

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Mush on 19 Feb 2012 - 1:25am #

^^^^BINGO

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DefendYoungstown on 19 Feb 2012 - 1:19am #

These guys are possibly the biggest group of underacheivers I have ever seen.

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Arizona_Buckeye on 19 Feb 2012 - 1:52am #

Exactly what I was thinking as well.  They have what seems to have quite the arrogant attitude, a terrible work ethic, and seem to believe they can win by just walking out on the court and tossing up alley ball shots.  No discipline, no concentration, no effort, game plan - just go out and wing it.  Well, since they are going to sleepwalk through the rest of the season, I'll skip wasting any more of my time watching them.  Bring on football!!!

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WildMan Leather... on 19 Feb 2012 - 1:24am #

Yeah No surprises here.  Were not getting past the second round.  No guard play=No tourny run

 

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ShowThemOhiosHere on 19 Feb 2012 - 2:05am #

Same recipe as last week - poor shooting and absolute garbage officiating.  How that hack Ted Valentine and his cronies have jobs while millions of Americans who are qualified for good jobs are out of work is beyond me.  Between BS charges (4 out of those 5 were complete BS, 1 was marginal, and Michigan got away with at least 3) and unbelievable no calls on fouls, we got swerved out of 10-15 points easily.  I mean, what the hell can we do about it?  I have never seen officiating so blatantly bad against us in my entire life as I've seen this season, and particular these games against MSU and Michigan.  Especially late, just as it seemed we were ready to snatch momentum and get out of the Ann Armpit with a win, the refs found a garbage call to make that doomed us.  It's like Valentine's thinking "uh oh, OSU is getting too close, we can't have this...uh, no, Aaron Craft getting dumped on a layup attempt is not going to be a foul" "Oh shit, Lenzelle and one NO, CHARGE!".  I'm tired of this shit.  I don't care how fucking bad our guys shot tonight, I don't care about Buford doing his usual 20% shooting shit, I don't care about Sully missing bunnies that he could've easily made.  I don't care that Deshaun Thomas was our only reliable scoring threat.  You take how shittily we played offense tonight, everything else, and give us competent officiating, you're looking at a 4-7 point win for this team.  The officials should not be this noticeable in the outcome of a game.  The only calls we get are bad makeup calls for the original bad calls made against us!  And then all Matta and the players do is sarcastically smile at these assholes.  I want to see Matta absolutely go off on these refs.  The frustration obviously builds, and is clouding the focus of the team.  He needs to absolutely tee off on them.  Get a T.  That's fine.  That will inspire our guys.  Get it all out of your system, get your money's worth, fire up the team, and show the world who's boss. 

OSU and Michigan are both overrated as fuck.  I understand one game of poor shooting, but the second Saturday in a row in a big game, and we have a trend.  This team has not learned a damn thing from anything they've gone through.  I would hope after MSU that this team has all the motivation and learning experience it needs to power through the rest of the schedule, but obviously that's not the case.  It is February 19 and we have not progressed a damn bit from last Saturday, from the Illinois loss, and have digressed wildly from the Duke win.  I'm so tired of seeing shit like this.  I'm mostly tired of the officiating, so I may be projecting a bit on the team here.  The only hope we have is that Ted Valentine is not allowed anywhere near our games in the NCAA tournament, and these losses reduce the targets on our back come tourney time so that if we get to the point where we play a top seed, we can play the underdog role well.  But since this team obviously can't shoot for shit, I'm not sure how much it's going to matter.  The officiating really cost us tonight because the game was close and the officiating was horid.  But a really good team may have got us by double digits tonight, to the point where the points we were swerved out of by Valentine and his cronies wouldn't have mattered.  I'm done drinking the "we'll learn from this" Kool-Aid - I'll believe it when I see it.  But right now, if we make it to the Sweet 16, it will be a miracle.  I just hope if we underachieve this year, we'll get guys like Sully and Thomas back for next year, along with a good young core that is a year more experience, and we'll see what we can do.  And maybe a shakeup of B1G officiating.  What makes this so damn frustrating is that I know this team is better. 

End rant. 

Class of 2010.

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stevezt4 on 19 Feb 2012 - 9:50am #

I agree! I've got things to say but why waste my time Matta refuses to make changes

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