Illinois Open Thread

By 11W Staff on January 10, 2012 at 10:29p
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Jason Priestas's picture

Comcast went out on me a mere seconds before I was set to publish this thing. Took over an hour to come back up. My apologies.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I wasn't excpecting anything and was just trying to poke fun on the timing is all. I luv this site.

slippy's picture

He is killing us.

slippy's picture

PASS THE BALL ITS 3 ON 2

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Play Thompson, Spoon, or Ross?

slippy's picture

I don't care.  I think I would play better out there than WB right there.  Another TO from a bad entry pass.

LadyBuck's picture

Well, might as well use it.

Nice finish by craft.

LadyBuck's picture

I can't hate Meyers Leondard. He's too much fun to watch. 

And there are the stupid turnovers. Got to keep those to a minimum. 

TLB's picture

TLB is getting upset!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

Buford is no longer the best option... Sorry im not sorry

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

TLB's picture

Guess he has rested enough and will now give some effort

thatlillefty's picture

where has this been all night?... and why isn't anyone running 11W twitter feed

yall are having an off night... as are our buckeyes

thatlillefty's picture

Buckeyes need to step it up on D and feed Sully the ball down low

slippy's picture

That would work a lot better if we actually had someone who could hit a 3.

Yamosu's picture

Thank god Thomas has stepped up this year because we can't depend on buford at all.

Yamosu's picture

Like i was saying, I knew we should stick with Buford and that he would find his range.

Joe Beale's picture

WB currently 5/14 shooting with 2 turnovers and 0 assists.  Pathetic.

thatlillefty's picture

finally WB with the bucket

thatlillefty's picture

and he is playing defense... atta boy!

Yamosu's picture

Illinois has just played harder in the last five minutes.

LadyBuck's picture

WB scoring in the clutch. 

And with excellent hustle this game.

slippy's picture

Thad must trust Thompson on D.  He moved Craft off of Paul when Sam came in.

LadyBuck's picture

And he's the first off the bench after Ravanel's sub for Sully.

thatlillefty's picture

or he doesnt think Craft is athletic enough to keep up with Paul. He had Smith guarding him in the first half

LadyBuck's picture

This game has been a huge running game, and a lot of fun to watch.

LadyBuck's picture

Absolutely horrid defense by Buford.

BuddhaBuck's picture

I think I sound like a broken record: B1G refs SUCK.

Don't text while driving.

TLB's picture

Thats because IT'S A FOUL

Yamosu's picture

I pull Buford if this is a one shot game under 30 seconds.

slippy's picture

Why?  The covered 3 pointer isn't a good decision in a one point game?

Yamosu's picture

I'll get over that shot and the Kentucky 3 pointer when we win a national title and invite diebler back for it.

argyle182021's picture

Dakich: "First time in 20+ years that wasn't called a foul"

thatlillefty's picture

dude has said some very idiotic things tonight

argyle182021's picture

I think that was his way of saying nicely that it should've been called a foul.  And it should've.

thatlillefty's picture

So does WB take the last shot tonight? It's his Bday... might just work out for us this time

LadyBuck's picture

Surprised that wasn't an over-the-back call right there. It was quite blatant. 

Otherwise, our stupid turnovers and bad shot selection is what is killing us. I would like to see us spread the defense and slash to the basket more. It worked earlier, and opened up the perimeter. Also, our shots are not falling right now.

We have to up our intensity to win.

TLB's picture

They should have called a foul on WB for that lame pass

TLB's picture

Man, he got air on that one

slippy's picture

I wonder what it's like being that high in the air.

741's picture

Man crush on Thompson continues to grow.

TLB's picture

Yeah, we want the ball in WB's hands at the end.

LadyBuck's picture

Good god. They can't miss, and we can't buy a bucket. 

BuddhaBuck's picture

Brandon Paul will never score this many points again, in any game. I bet my life on it.

Don't text while driving.

argyle182021's picture

Reminds me of the game at Madison last year.

BuddhaBuck's picture

+1. Exactly what I was thinking.

Don't text while driving.

slippy's picture

Time to run the backdoor 'oop for Sam.

Yamosu's picture

I know my mind is blown that Buford would turn the ball at a critical moment. Blown.

madhatterhater's picture

WB is killing OSU!

go bucks

slippy's picture

Jesus christ dude.  Pass the rock.

TLB's picture

Classic, JJ wearing his own shirt

TLB's picture

Almost forgot..........click the HOMAGE link to get yours

LadyBuck's picture

Craft has not been trying to score this half, and it's kind of been annoying me.

madhatterhater's picture

This team seems to lose it in in crunch time.

go bucks

LadyBuck's picture

Lack of experience is killing us right now. Buford is our only senior. We have Sully and Craft who, despite playing like vets, are only sophomores. DT played mostly junk time and some meaningful minutes, and Thompson -the true freshman. There is not a lot of experience on the court.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Do we lose every road game this year?

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

Uh, no. Iowa already in the books.

thatlillefty's picture

great counter punch by Craft... we needed that

Yamosu's picture

When was the last time we gave up 35? Twice last year?

HolyBuckeye1093's picture

Make sure we box out on this shot. Nothing more killer than having Ill get a second chance!

TLB's picture

haha..............not our night

LadyBuck's picture

That is why we are losing. He cannot miss from anywhere.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Lighty would have shut him down

JakeBuckeye's picture

Did you see his last shot? You can't shut that down. Its his night.

TLB's picture

BTW, that should have been a taunting T

Tim's picture

Fuck every random mediocre guard shooting the lights out against us when we play below average.  Also, Meyers Leonard should have nine fouls if the rules were enforced, but that doesn't happen anywhere.  I just wish I had confidence in us on a neutral court.

BuddhaBuck's picture

+1 million.

Illinois won't make it to the Big Dance.

Don't text while driving.

Tim's picture

Agreed, or they'll make it as a 12-seed/effective-play-in like they usually do.  College basketball just frustrates me so much based on where the game is played.

LadyBuck's picture

I would love to crush them right now. Foul someone on a made 3. That is what I would love to see right now.

Ohio1St81's picture

What is it about this team that so consistently brings out the best in its opponents? 

Yamosu's picture

This team just finds ways to lose. Maybe they mature as the year progresses, but at this point, on the road or in neutral sites, these guys lose in the face of adversity.

btalbert25's picture

This team doesn't like playing on the road very much(not that anyone does) That shot was sick, not your night when stuff like that goes down. 

 

JakeBuckeye's picture

Boy, its seems mighty easy to just let Sully take over. You wonder why we don't do that more?

Baroclinicity's picture

Need some leadership.

slippy's picture

Leadership?  Are you kidding me?  This kid drains 8/10 threes, most of which were highly contested and you're complaining about leadership?  This is the best game he's ever played and will ever play.

Baroclinicity's picture

It's been lacking all year.  To me, it's the single biggest component lost from last year's team (David Lighty).

LadyBuck's picture

However, leadership is missing from the team as a whole, and it shows.  Who's calming everyone down during crunch time? Who can we depend on when things get rough? Who is leading the team on the court? Who can we trust to make that last second shot? Hint: not William Buford -who should be the leader, as the lone senior on the team.

Lack of leadership is why we cannot close out close games like these. Look at last year: there were a lot of game we squeaked by and won. Why? We had seasoned vets, and leaders on the court who knew how to play those games.

Right now, this team is in the learning process. Coach Matta has said that multiple times throughout the season. Our biggest weakness is our immaturaity. Our younger players don't have a Lighty to learn how to practice, and how to bring it every day. That is where leadership comes into play. 

madhatterhater's picture

This team just plays dumb at times.

go bucks

LadyBuck's picture

That's game, as Craft gets tripped and stripped.

madhatterhater's picture

Typical last second turnover in crunch time.

go bucks

JakeBuckeye's picture

Craft fucks that kind of play up every single game going back to last year at Wisconsin. He ALWAYS loses control in crunch time.

LadyBuck's picture

Always? No. A lot of the time, especially recently? Yes.

JakeBuckeye's picture

We've only lost six times with Craft... In three of those losses he's done something exactly like that on one of our last gasp possessions to win.

Always was obviously an exaggeration, but when its half of the time the exaggeration is worthy.

LadyBuck's picture

I guess I'd be more inclinded to agree with you if you put it that way. It soundedl ike you were attack Craft. So, we lost 6 games with Craft and a few knucklehead turnovers that cost big time. How many did we win due to his heady play and FTs in the last few minutes of games, though?

JakeBuckeye's picture

Craft is a fucking idiot. Our ONLY minimal chance is taking a three, fouling and hoping they miss two. YOU IDIOT!

JakeBuckeye's picture

I wasn't going to be too mad about this loss until Craft at the end. Up until then it was all Paul going apeshit.

Yamosu's picture

We didn't lose this on crafts turnover, we lost because the 9 minutes before that we played lazy, had poor transition defense, Buford performed his normal Buford and we continued to show we don't have any perimeter shooting.

JakeBuckeye's picture

We didn't lose on it, but boy it REALLY shut the door. I guess I expect more from a guy who is generally considered to be the best point guard in the Big Ten/maybe country.

Miller's picture

+1000000

Total complacency on a 10 point lead, and they let the Illini walk right back into the game. Hey, guys, maybe after Paul hits his 3rd or 4th 3 someone should be picking him up in transition, you think? Maybe we can exercise a little better shot selection instead of going for and missing 3s of our own. Maybe we can do a little better feeding Sully on the block and put some pressure on their big man, who is creeping into foul trouble...

Or maybe you can crap yourselves again and show the world how you're still a freakin' year away. Unless there is some major change, mark my word, this team gets bounced again in the sweet sixteen.

Pathetic.

L-TownNut11's picture

Matta great recruiter......BUT THE WORST IN GAME COACH I HAVE EVER SEEN.......yeah ill say it.....bring in calipari....Meyer>tressel. Calipari>matta

JakeBuckeye's picture

Calipari is bigger scum than Saban. Take that back.

OhioKris's picture

i really don't want to have both teams reps hurts. the B Ball is just getting over the mess O'brian left. 

JakeBuckeye's picture

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL at you insuing our football team's rep was better before Urban came.

Miller's picture

Callipari is trash, lord, are you insane?

OhioKris's picture

this team comes up for big games, they'll do fine when the tourny comes around.

still have them as my favorite to win it all. 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Which tourney, the NCAAs? The tourney where every Matta team except one has fallen in an upset, usually a huge upset?

Sometimes you get talented teams that for one reason or another can't seem to play up to their potential (e.g. Michigan State 2011). It might be time to accept that this is one of them.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

L-TownNut11's picture

I know I know.....just messing.....but cmon man I know That dude was hot but we should of been up ten even with him scoring 70 points

GeneStarwind's picture

Well I'm going to say alot of things here, first of all kudos to Brandon Paul, he outplayed every player on that court tonight. 43 Pts, lights out from 3 point land. Buckeyes didn't have an answer for this kid tonight. Honestly, after watching OSU play like shit on the road basically every time, I don't think they deserve to be ranked in the top 10, and non deserving of a #1 seed in the Big Dance. This team is too young and they need more experience together on road games. Hopefully they are taking notes and are learning from every road loss this season. They won't last in the Big Dance if this continues. This is a very disappointing loss and I'm very upset with how our kids played tonight. If Brandon Paul wasn't on fire tonight, OSU would have come out with a win, but somebody ate their Wheaties this morning.

thatlillefty's picture

we can beat anybody at home but man we sure struggle on the road

HolyBuckeye1093's picture

Matta seriously may need to consider benching Buford just to light a fire under him. Tonight was a fluke in regards to Paul but the inconsistencies of Buford is very troubling. We are a young team and when our senior leader is coming up small in every big game it's going to lead to a quick exit in the tourney like last year. Sully is an All American, Thomas can light it up, Craft is a very good PG and the best defender in CBB but this team will only go as far as Buford takes them.

nw_ohio_Buckeye's picture

...again with the "this team will only go as far as Buford takes them."

...I agree and at this point anyway that spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E...Bu can not be relied on at this point and we'd be better off giving him a rest late in games. He's pressing and it shows.

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" ~ Woody Hayes 

Brutus's picture

The only comfort I take is that it usually takes career nights from the opposing team's best player (IU excluded) to beat us in the B1G. Last year it was Moore and Taylor. Now it's Paul. The Buckeyes responded nicely to Purdue and Wisc after losses last year. I'm eager to see how they fare against IU and Illinois when they come to Cbus. This team has fallen short of expectations thus far but it's early. The B1G feels like the Big East did the past two years. A lot of good teams who beat up on each other during the regular season but are battle tested come March. Unfortunately, for all the hype about the strength of the Big East going into the tournament last year, the conference fared pretty poorly as a whole, save for UConn. Hopefully, we get hot at the right time like UConn.

I'm concerned but not panicked...yet.

Joe Beale's picture

Final numbers for WB: 7/18 shooting, no free throws, 3 rebounds (in 37 minutes), 0 assists and 4 turnovers.  Nice senior leadership there.

miller2234's picture

I thought 2011 was over?

GO BUCKS

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Buford is becoming a huge disappointment.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

William's picture

Buford absolutely sucks. There's no way to argue against that. 

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

Illinois and IU are going to get housed next time around. Paul was talking to WB and Sully? Not a smart move. Payback is a bitch and I feel they will have to deal with it.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

He should ask Taylor how that goes.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.