Your Vent Thread

By Jeremy Birmingham on November 12, 2011 at 3:38p
180 Comments

Yikes, what a rollercoaster ride.

Ohio State spotted Purdue a 10 point lead and then spent the whole day trying to play catch up, finally doing it with less than a minute to go as Braxton Miller found Jordan Hall for a miraculous 4th and three touchdown.  A blocked extra point left the game tied at 20 and headed into overtime.

In OT, the Buckeyes offense sputtered, but Drew Basil was able to convert on a 33 yard FG attempt, giving Ohio State their only lead of the game 23-20. Purdue and Robert Marve fought back, converting on a key third down scramble, then picking up 14 yards on a huge 3rd and 12 from the 16 on their way to a game-winning QB keeper by Marve, capping the upset, 26-23.

The loss drops virtually eliminates any hopes of a Big Ten Championship berth and potential Rose Bowl appearance for Ohio State.

So, vent away, Buckeye fans, but remember that Jim Bollman should get your scorn, not your fellow posters.

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BigRedBuckeye's picture

Bollman's head on a lance.

And we'll drink to old Ohio, 'Til we wobble in our shoes! 

TatumRuled's picture

And everyone thought I was crazy for not being on the Lu-kill bandwagon.

Hello Urban!

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

Northbrook's picture

Did Luke have a choice on Bolls?

NoVA Buckeye's picture

bollman and tressel should both leave for that horrific display

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

The Vest-er's picture

U guys r fast

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

It's bad when you get out coached by Danny Hope with 3 different QB's, Terbush was 4th string coming into the season. Marve, Henry and Robinson were ahead of him. We are officially pathetic.

Amazing how we can play down to any teams level.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

JakeBuckeye's picture

This entire team is a fucking joke. Coaches included.

Poe McKnoe's picture

Total fail in all 3 aspects of the game.

buck i's picture

I think Fick sealed his fate with this game. Awful, AWFUL coaching.

Northbrook's picture

Was it a feather in his cap, no, but it wasn't on him. It was the O coaching!

nickma71's picture

I will be glad when all parts of the Jim Tressel offense are purged. Again, the team deserved to lose. I have an idea. Lets run on first and second, then try to pass on third. Same thing Bernie Kosar said a couple of decades ago.

madhatterhater's picture

And it is an absolutely a must that pass must be a play action on 3 and 13 with a freshman qb who is already struggling to read open recievers.

go bucks

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

Venting at Bollman should also include Heacock and the entire defense that was not prepared to play football at the opening kickoff. And our special teams coach deserves a kick in the ass too for the failure to keep that kid out of the backfield on the extra point that would have won the game. OSU has no choice now but to get a new head coach and staff for next season. The coaches crapped in their pants again.

poguemahone's picture

Hey

Hey Urban

the only thing we covered up is free tattoos

and we have a promising young QB rather than a disaster area of ginger walk-ons and terrible divas

pretty please?

Lucys Daddy is a Buckeye's picture

This.  This and ONLY this.

...And when we win the game, We'll buy a keg of booze....And we'll drink to old Ohio til we wobble in our shoes...

Bucksfan's picture

What a motherfu*king waste of time this season has been.  Beat Wisconsin only to give the Leaders right back to them against a SHITFEST team like Purdue.  I"M IRATE!  WORTHLESS EFFORT.  NOT ACCEPTABLE!

Roger's picture

This team is very young and plays like it and, of course, this will sounds like sour grapes: REFS ARE TAKING OVER GAMES. 

No calls on Purdue holding, but so much as sniff their jersey and we get the call. Roughing the passer, always in critical situations when the defender is only taking a step and a half, no calls when receivers get tackled while the ball is in the air...

I'm sick and tired of it. When refs call games like that when I play, they get put on the sideline.

LadyBuck's picture

Thank god I'm not the only one who saw that home cooking. I think the series that really killed us was when we got those two BS fouls on defense in a row mid 3rd quarter after our last touch down. You could tell the momentum swung our way, so the refs started call stuff on us. 

Jdadams01's picture

I hafta agree. I don't complain about refs a lot, but I was starting to get pretty pissed at the lack of holding/pass interference calls. Purdue's DB's weren't even turning to look for the ball. Just making contact.

madhatterhater's picture

I am getting a bit fed up of the lack of holding calls on Simon.  On Purdue's first td he got hooked pretty well.  If there any wrestlers out there it was a fine overhook.

go bucks

BoFuquel's picture

Cograts you stinkin' Urbies.

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Bobcat04's picture

Yep. This only serves to galvanize that Fickell in no way, shape, or form should be the HC of this team any longer than absolutely necessary. Need to get him the hell out the door as soon as possible.

JakeBuckeye's picture

I guess I would be an "Urbie", but this isn't what I want. What I want is competent coaches. Not these MAC-level coaches.

BuckeyeChief's picture

I refuse to go into a vent about lack of heart, etc. The only thing I am going to say is that from A-Z this season is dull. Worse than 2004. We've had bright spots hear and there, but Fickell has been put into a horrible spot, our defense has regressed tremendously, and we have 0 WR's.

I take solace in 2 things: 1. Miller is gonna be a beast in the near future, and 2. well, not gonna post it because it's sour grapes on my part.

 

FTW; it's an absolute downpour in San Diego as well.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I still think Reed would be a monster if healthy.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Another point, when the hell did this team ever have this many injuries?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

HolyBuckeye1093's picture

Missed tackles, multiple missed chances for turnovers, poor special teams, no offensive concistancy, lack of discipline, poor coaching is only part of the problem with this team. Fickell sealed his fate with this one. Even a win over scUM won't salvage this travisty of a season. Hopefully the bowl ban we get will keep us out of this year's bowl game and not next years.

madhatterhater's picture

I have never seen so many OSU dbs get hit by footballs and not even no the balls coming!

go bucks

argyle182021's picture

Was Shugarts our missing link on the OLine that prevented us from having something that resembled a run game?  We couldn't run at all.  I know they stacked the box, but that didn't stop us last wekk.

Nick's picture

Shugarts is only good for about 2 false starts per game

argyle182021's picture

What other possible reasons kept us from being able to run?  I know they stacked the box with 8 or 9.  But we averaged almost 10ypc last week against the same thing.

nickma71's picture

Well, they were stopped last week. The yards were all big plays. That happens when you stack against the run, and there is an opening. Ohio State can not sustain a drive, since I can remember.

741's picture

Glad I held off on buying my OSU-Michigan tickets - prices may go down.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

I'm definitely not in the Braxton Miller fan club. He's not as good as you all think. He's a C- QB at best. I'll take either of my two QBs from my alma mater Toledo and Page over anything the Buckeyes have on offense. And I posted for everyone on this site to watch out. My worst feeling about the game came true. This is a 7-5 2010 Michigan piece of shit team. We won't beat those turds from up north. Mark it down. We might not even beat crappy Penn State.

argyle182021's picture

Miller is a true freshman with a ton of talent.  He missed some throws that could've changed the game but he was also our only running threat and he made the play at the end of regulation when it mattered.  He also hit Williams for what could've/should've been a first down in OT.  Hard to blame this one on him.  I think he's better than a C-.  Get him a competent coach to develop him and he could be special.

22buckeyebrown's picture

disagree about miller, he continually bales the coaching staff out by converting 3rd & longs in clutch situations... he's gonna be an outstanding quarterback and he's already showing that.

Baroclinicity's picture

Miller's most experienced WR are sophomores.  I think we'd be seeing a more balanced offense if we had Posey and Sanzenbacher running routes.

LadyBuck's picture

God, I miss Sanzenbacher. 

As for Posey, we'll see him next week. Hopefully, he will be a huge help on the offensive end. Who knows, maybe Bollman will add some different plays to the book (wishful thinking, I know).

chitown buckeye's picture

I agree on Sanzebacher, but as for Posey what the hell does it matter at this point? He might as well sit out the rest of the year and we continue to let the young recievers play. I hate to say it because we havent had to in many years but we might as well look to next year and give young players with potential the chance to play and get reps. IMO.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

Baroclinicity's picture

I still want to beat PSU and Michigan.  I welcome anyone that might help.

chitown buckeye's picture

I agree, I'm just a little frustrated. It feels like the wins over Illini and Wiscy are just smoke. At the time I thought we were beginning to show improvement and just playing in tight games. I was acutally thinking after Wisconsin that there isnt a team in the Big Ten that would want to face us. Now looking back it seems as if Illinois jsut ran out of time as they were begining to score late and by all accounts we should have really lossed to Wisconsin. I know a win is a win but I thought we werer progressing instead of regressing. After the last two weeks vs inferior opponents we dont show up to play?! It was stated on here by someone the other day that the making of a good coach is the coach that can get the team to play every week. Whether it is a "big" game or not. I dont see this coaching staff motivating! Sorry for the rant! ha

"I'm having a heart attack!"

Bucksfan's picture

Without Braxton Miller we lose this game 20-0.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Another thing I want to say: I've been thinking about this all week...did we really want to watched this team with so-so defense and mediocre offense in the Rose Bowl vs. Stanford or Oregon?

Before you blast me, seriously think about that.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

poguemahone's picture

There are always idiots who will criticize realistic thinking, but you're right: this team would have gotten incinerated by either of those teams.

I'm much more confident about our chances against SMU in the TicketCity Bowl.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Now, I'll take our chances vs FLA in the toilet bowl for sure.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Nick's picture

Nope I'm hoping for the bowl game ban this year so it is over with, sorry seniors.

22buckeyebrown's picture

i sure didn't. i do not have any desire to see the buckeyes get steem rolled in another bcs game... florida and LSU were more than depressing...

chitown buckeye's picture

This may sound weird but I would take my chances against Stanford. I think stylistically it is a decent matchup. (we always play well against pro style offense) Not saying we would win but I think we could hang with them if we actually showed up to play. Which doesnt seem to happen very often lately! However I think Oregon would roll us!

"I'm having a heart attack!"

Northbrook's picture

I think you're right other than the fact Luck is 20x times better that any other QB we will face this year.

BuckeyeChief's picture

I see what you did there.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

God, no. I know I've pissed off all you Miller fans. Right now he isn't that good. Maybe next year he will be the guy you think he is now. I know - I've pissed you off again. Sorry, I'm not convinced yet. And you aren't comparing him to Bauserman, who deserves a clip board. Some of Miller's passes today made me think he was wearing number 14.

Poe McKnoe's picture

All I want for Christmas is a quick ruling by the NCAA so Urban Meyer can be announced as the new head coach.

Bucks's picture

I love Braxton. Angry, angry yada yada but once again he comes up with a spectacular play to *win*.

Secondary didn't exist & the entire defense got worked at different times.

This display was absolutely ridiculous. Penalties, 3rd & long converts, ST mistakes, ignorant play-calling, more injuries (Strength & Conditioning HAS to be addressed right now), dropped passes, dropped INT's. Just ugly in every way.

 

 

BuckeyeChief's picture

Secondary is MIA all season, no pass rush today.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Bobcat04's picture

It just kills the heart to think that Purdue sucks so much, too. They did everything they could to hand us this one. I also agree with Roger, that it seemed (biased, I know) that it was called very one sided with respect to the judgement calls. Just an absolute microcosm of this horrible season. Can't wait to start over with new leadership.

dmurder's picture

Well when your offense is that predictable what do you expect? Honestly, we can't get a first down untill the second quarter. We can't block on an extra point? We consistently give up 3rd down plays on this defense? We gave this game away and we started it off just like indiana last week. SLOW, SLOW, and SLOW. Why isn't this team ready to play noon on a saturday?

 

My Points:

1.) Again, why isn't shazier starting? I think the coaches see now, what we have seen in game 1.

2.) We throw 10 deep balls in one game? Why not spread the ball around? Short passes, Middle Passes, How about throw it to the tight end?

3.) Braxton Miller is super young, which means one play he will wow you. The next play he will wow you with "why wouldn't you just throw the ball away"

4.) I hope and pray luke fickell is not our coach next year. The guy just doesn't look like he belongs. He looks scared and has no confiendce.

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

Riggins's picture

2-4 now in our last 6 trips to West Lafayette.  Should've seen this dicktrip coming. 

Screw Purdue. And their giant drum. And their creepy mascot with the 1,000-yard stare. 

That is all.  On to Penn State.

madhatterhater's picture

Purdue is Heacock/Fickell's achilles heel.  They have pretty much ran the same offense and they still havent stopped it.

go bucks

Northbrook's picture

We never should have lost to a team that UW beat as bad as they did. Our D wasn't stellar but did enough. Our O did not do near enough which has been our MO for years. What is the link between this year and the past several years on O? You know. We waste offensive talent to a ridiculous degree.

Hoody Wayes's picture

Advantage: Michigan

Buckeye Chuck's picture

All losses are frustrating, but taking it all into consideration: conference championship gone, caliber of the opponent, horrible play for one half, great comeback followed by idiotic mistake on the most basic play in the sport--this was one of the worst ever. One might say the only positive is it eliminates any chance that this coaching staff will return, but I'd always rather win now and worry about other things later.

First off, for anyone tempted to criticize Fickell for not going for it in overtime, kicking the FG there is textbook--I'm not sure I've ever seen a team not kick the FG in OT in that situation. You have to have points when you go first in OT, and hope your defense can hold serve.

Basically, they lost because they couldn't make an extra point, which is obviously inexcusable. Add special teams to the list of problem areas.

The defense played well in the second half, but that first half was among the worst I've ever seen considering the (awful) caliber of the competition. And the failure to consistently make plays on third down finally came back to bite them against a better team than Indiana. It's hard to understand why the D has looked so bad early these last 2 games. It's hard to understand how it could be overconfidence or the "trap game" theory. Three-loss teams don't have trap games--they're the trap game for the contenders.

But primary blame for the fact that the game went into overtime to begin with falls on the offensive philosophy, which is essentially a defensive form of offense. That's worked against bad teams, and it's worked whenever the defense has been awesome. But once they realized they couldn't just run Herron up the middle all day and rely on Miller scrambles, it was almost too late.

It's instructive that the only two times all year Miller has been in at the end in a must-score situation, he's gotten it done--which proves the talent IS there. But for some reason, Bollman and Fickell are afraid to use it until left with no choice.

They will have a long time to think about it once the next phase of their life begins, about 2 weeks to the minute from now.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

RE: special teams -- I think we have the wrong Tress coaching that team. Seen some okay things, but mostly frustrated with play. Mike, at Sparty, needs to be in Cols.

RBuck's picture

I've never seen such piss poor WR's routes in my lifetime. Looks like besides being the head coach, OC, QB coach and OL coach, Tress was also the WR coach.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Are they trying to force Stoney to transfer?

It's fun to hate on the Walrus and blame him for everything, but it's not his fault the defense tackles like Justin Beiber and cannot cover.

Season isn't total disaster -- revenge on Wisc, can beat State Penn and Mich. I'll take that after all the offseason/in season drama.

RBuck's picture

I thought stoneburner has been sucking a lot lot lately. Just today, twice I saw him run to a spot and just stand there.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

He came real close to making an awesome grab and then threw some blocks...

Nappy's picture

Howard had a chance to wrap up Marve in OT and possibly prevent him from getting the first down. He barely made an effort.  

Fan of bacon since 1981

chitown buckeye's picture

+1000  It was the weakest attempt I have seen in a while considering the situation!! You got to come with everything you have and try and make that play!!

"I'm having a heart attack!"

Hoody Wayes's picture

Good coaches win on the road.

Northbrook's picture

Yes, whan they have other coaches they picked. This is not on Luke it is on the O caaches.

Jdadams01's picture

I hate this argument. Luke is the HEAD coach. He has the authority to overrule anything the O coaches say.

Northbrook's picture

No, this year he doesn't.

onetwentyeight's picture

What's the evidence of this? I see people write stuff like this all the time; how all this sh!tstorm isnt on luke because he can't control those mean evil assistants of his. Yes I know the coordinators are more senior than him, but we promoted the man to (interim) HEAD FUCKN COACH for a reason. Where in his freaking contract does it state that he can be overruled by his cooridnators? Why are we giving him a free pass and just heaping all the blame on the assistants when it should be a shared thing? He either IS the Head coach this season, or he isnt. No wishy-washy in between crap about how he is but "oh those damn coordinators keep overruling him". If they do, it's becuase he LETS them. 

Jdadams01's picture

Fickell has made it clear multiple times in press conferences that he has the authority to overrule playcalling. Don't you recall his comment, "who would I need permission from, my wife?"

And if he doesn't have the authority, it basically means the higher ups have told him he's not going to be back next year.

Either way, he's useless.

Northbrook's picture

Luke has the authority but he doesn't have the real possibility. Why? Because he doesn't know much about the O and is stuck with what he has this year. Given the situation he has had to play the hand he was dealt this year on O. 

Jdadams01's picture

Once again, you're just proving why Fick shouldn't get the job.

buckeyes763's picture

braxton overthrew 3 touchdowns, at least, and our defense missed in the range of 3 million tackles. theres only so much the coaches can do, and at some point the players need to shoulder the blame for not executing

Nappy's picture

FOr what its worth I think both overthrows happened with the wind to his back

Fan of bacon since 1981

SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

I can't fathom the inability of this defense to read a screen pass, or simple swing pass to the outside. The perimeter defense is absolutely inept, and the missed tackles on this team are absurd. I don't care what the situation with this team is, there is no excuse for missed tackles. Braxton has loads of talent, but he's hanging onto the ball for an eternity. A lot of these sacks are his own doing. Also, and I don't mean this as an insult, but Antonio Underwood simply cannot play. He was a glaring weakness on the offensive line when he was in there. I wasn't expecting to beat Penn State or Michigan, but I expect to beat Purdue.  Ohio State is lucky it's at 6 wins already, because it's staring 6-6 in the face.

22buckeyebrown's picture

a major factor of why braxton is holding on to the ball for an eternity is due to ignorant, foolish bollman calling unrealistic passing plays that send the wide recievers on 6 mile long sprints down field and they aren't getting open. They aren't even getting open on shorter pass routes either...

buckeyejonross's picture

So much this. The kid is holding the ball, with his eyes downfield and no one is close to being open. He is in no position to succeed. Also, enough with the lay action, half the time the running back doesn't even reach for the ball. Just stop it.

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

painterlad's picture

I have watched an awful lot of Ohio State football in my 46 years, and never, EVER has the offense looked this inept. It is simply painful to watch. Agreed...we beat Wisconsin and lose to these turds??? Gross.

To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.

Blake's picture

It makes me feel good watching Robert Marve celebrate of course.

Hoody Wayes's picture

We've got "The Best Damn Band In The Land."

Now, let's go get "The Best Damn Coach In The Land."

buckeyejonross's picture

Hey, how 'bout ANOTHER DEEP PASS!

Also Tyler Moeller? What happened? Like, for serious? What happened?

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

yay basketball

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

That's just what happens when miss an EP at the end of the game. nothing else needs to be said. 

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

Bucksfan's picture

What lost this game was a poor defensive scheme + injuries, coupled with wasted first downs on crap that was already the central part of Purdue's defensive game plan.  With the exception of injuries, the rest is inexcusable.  It was fucking Purdue...whose defense got annihilated by Wisconsin.  

Ohio State Football's mancard is hereby revoked.  When you have the Rose Bowl begging you to keep winning, you don't lose to Purdue.

Northbrook's picture

The D was the problem over the O? 

Bucksfan's picture

Dropping 2 sure interceptions, getting no pressure on the Purdue backfield, leaving guys wide open all day?  I wouldn't say the defense was the bright spot by any stretch.

Northbrook's picture

They only scored 20 in regulation? How did UW do against that?

SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

Eh c'mon. Let's be honest, here. I know fans are capable of sometimes allowing their eyes to get wider than they should, but deep down we know this is nowhere near a Rose Bowl team. A few weeks ago we were questioning whether or not this team would even make a bowl game. Before this game everyone believed the Rose Bowl was a distinct possibility. I think now we all just need to admit that this Ohio State team is somewhere in between those two.

Tim's picture

Limit the delayed blitzes, tell Hall not to dance for 3-5 seconds before running, start Shazier and blitz him often, throw to the running backs and the best tight end in the country instead of 30+ yard bombs that have a 1% chance of being completed, teach Basil to kick extra points high because they only have to go 20 yards, and tell Miller that you can throw the ball away if you're outside of the tackle box.  There is much more than this to correct, but these things alone would make a huge difference and would have resulted in a win against much less-talented (as always) Purdue team.

 

Keith's picture

Came out flat for the second week in a row.  Zero emotion from the players or the staff.

Absolutely no offensive plan or ingenuity.  Our offensive plan is 'hope'.  Thanks Walrusball.

I still am stunned it took the staff that long to realize that Underwood at RT had to be pulled.  We all knew it but they are the ones getting paid 250 large to figure this it out well before a general fan does.

No timeout before the critical extra point try.  It was clear Purdue was overloading the right side gaps.  This is your season and you can't convert the easiest of all kicks in football.   It's flabbergastingly sad.

Including the Bruce and Cooper years, I've never wanted a change in staff more than I do now.  

 

Tim's picture

Haha I saw that too but it was changed to Underwood before I could comment on it.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Including the Bruce and Cooper years, I've never wanted a change in staff more than I do now.

I am not so sure about the Cooper years yet...It was all good until late November- January! (LOL)

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Tim's picture

Agreed, it's sad because I hate Urban Meyer, but he would be much better than this.  The extra point thing is unforgivable.  No matter how good an opponent is (and Purdue isn't), an extra point should never be blocked.  Orhian Johnson even made an interception after that (incredible for a team that has dropped about 10 picks this year), which makes it that much more painful.

tylerbuckeyefry's picture

I agree with all the post about jim bollman. At the very least he needs fired. The buckeyes offense this year is so predictable. Run 1st nd 2nd down and let Braxton do his thing on 3rd down which obviously doesn't always work. He's young and has recievers so weak they couldn't pull a drunk whore off a piss pot. As long as the recievers play as shitty as they play and jim bollmans still around the bucks aren't gonna have any positive outcome. AND where the hell was the pass defense? But i guess i could ask that more often as they have sucked donkey dick the whole year. I hate to be that guy that always talks about Urban, getting everybodys hopes up nd all but damn we gotta do something about this atrocious coaching staff. go bucks

Northbrook's picture

Same fricken formula we had with Pryor as QB. Absolutely no O scheme.

TLB's picture

Now what?

With scholarship losses, and a post season ban looming for a couple of years, where do we go for a coach?  Stick with Fickell and fire him in 3 years, or find someone to put up with mediocrity and fire them in 4 years?

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

Depends on what the scholarship loss and supposed post-season ban length woul dbe TBH.

 

it needs to start at tossing bollman to the curb.

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

Blake's picture

I'm cooling more and more on Urban and I'm not sure why. If the Bucks could pry Peterson from BSU, I'm all in. Just think he's an incredible coach and clearly has the broncos prepared game in and game out. Plus, I think he'd fit in great with the culture here, compared to when pundits would throw his name around for the USC or Florida jobs.

 

My two cents.

Northbrook's picture

I think Luke can be a great HC with his own staff but if not him I'd love to see Petersen.

BuckeyeChief's picture

He would be stupid to leave Boise St, see: Dan Hawkins.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Buckeye Chuck's picture

He's had other chances to leave. Can't imagine he'd come someplace which is way out of his usual recruiting range, and where the NCAA might yet have some say in what kind of near future we're going to have.

I'm not sure why you're cooling on Urban either. Other than his 2 national championships, his track record of winning everywhere he's been, and his Ohio roots, what's not to like?

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Blake's picture

Has he really had other real opportunities to leave though? His name has been mentioned places, but I don't off the top of my head recall a big time program really declaring him their guy. I don't think culturally he was a great fit for a place like USC or Florida so much, but I think Ohio State is a little more natural move. There's only a handful of jobs that might woo him away, especially of BSU isn't going to complete enough facility upgrades that he's pined for.

In regards to Urban, I'm not 100% sure why I feel that way. He's clearly proven, so I'm not worried about that. I guess I just see him as sort of a short-term hired gun to me. I don't know if healthwise or stresswise he'd be game for a decade at Ohio State like Tressel was. I'm not interested in a guy who comes in for 3-5 years and flames out, especially if you can't be sure of a title.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I have some concern also re the burnout thing, but if he brings on a crackerjack staff, it shouldn't be a major problem.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

biggy84's picture

Urban cannot be worse than what we have! Both sides of the ball have been atrocious most of the season. When Danny Hope outcoaches you, you need a new career. The offense cannot muster any passing threat in week 10? Little Cooper allows his players to play with no emotion and get taen to the woodshed by a team that has been a doormat for every decent team in the conference.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Petersen from Boise State is the best coach in college football. I totally agree with you. Can we pry him from Boise? He gets the most out of his kids each week. He clearly knows how to develop 2 and 3 stars, and gets them to play like elite players. Any guy who can coach up a team of PAC12 rejects into the national spotlight, can clearly coach.  I'd much rater have him instead of Meyer.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Nappy's picture

NO excuse for getting a PAT blocked.  We should have won in regulation after Johnsons pick. At this point Ive stopped hoping to see some clever play calling and am just hoping we can somehow win these last two games.  I didnt see a single crossing route, screen or slant.  And you can't continuously run on 1st down unless youre consistently getting positive yardage

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TLB's picture

Hard to throw crossing routes when every pass play is for 30 yards or bust.

costinjr's picture

Is there a reason our dline can't get a sack? I understand rolling out makes it more difficult, but put a spy and fire that linebacker when the qb gets outside the hashes

Northbrook's picture

But we can get late hits right? Both of which were BS!

Northbrook's picture

Can you imagine our talent running their O against their D?  We would have beat them 68 - 20.

matti's picture

bollman dead,  nedirmier dead... its purdont harbor again so purdue enjoy beating a below average buckeye team that ran 5 offensive plays the entire game see u next year when u lose buy 49 again.

on the offence the 4th down play was all miller not playcalling it was as called "three step drop run and pull a rabbit out of a hat play" think that was the actuall play signaled in. i love see sarcasim how bollman went to that trick play from 1917 the qb run but with wait for it a running back 12 times in the second half  f"n genious u retarded walrus just go away quit making the offence a factory mental anguish for osu fans....

matti's picture

also could we try to run outside of the guards more then 4 times a fricken game god i hate you bollman

Northbrook's picture

We could if we had the gold mother load in the quantic patch on the sideline of 4th and 9 when the frog was jumpin.

LadyBuck's picture

What happened to our defense? I swear I watched it, live, from the south stands during the Wisconsin game. What happened to it?

My other frustration: injuries. There are so many injuries, and not on "expendable" players, either. They are on guys who really impact what's going to happen and how the game goes. If Simon goes down the next game, I'm calling this season quits and sticking to the basketball team this year.

Northbrook's picture

Whenever your D holds the opposing O to 20 points in regulation you should win.

LadyBuck's picture

I normally would agree with you. However, with the way our offense is playing, it would be nice to see less 3 and out conversions and a couple of those "so-darn-close" interceptions caught.

Northbrook's picture

It would be nice but what should be more expected with a proper O coaching staff would be an O who could put up 40 on PU.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I don't think we have an unusual number of injuries considering how late in the season it is. It's just part of the game. I'm sure Purdue has them too.

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BuckeyeChief's picture

My other frustration: injuries. There are so many injuries, and not on "expendable" players, either. They are on guys who really impact what's going to happen and how the game goes.  

 

Exactly.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

onetwentyeight's picture

Where's that one dude who was calling random people out for "not believing" and not being "true fans" after the Wisky win because he totally "called it"? 

Yeah. 

 

At least maybe now people will stop yapping on about keeping fickell 

sharkvsghost's picture

I know how easy it is (rightfully so) to bag on jim bollman, but our defense is incapable of stopping a team that lost to rice. if that's not sobering, I don't know what is.

swing hard in case you hit it.

Bucksfan's picture

There is nothing sobering about losing to Purdue.  In fact, it only inspires me to drink more.

Kyle's picture

Look on the bright side. Bollman may suck but no children were harmed in the process. I am so ready to out this season and this staff in the rearview mirror. I want to send a big fuck you out to Terrelle Pryor who's wanton greed and utter stupidity and selfishness brings us to our current shitty offensive output. Fuck you TP.

Northbrook's picture

Amen to your TP feelings.

BuckeyeChief's picture

It wasn't just him.

 

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onetwentyeight's picture

TP didn't hire clueless yes-men like Bollman and then deem them to be "offensive coordinators". He has his share of blame in this but there is plentlyyyy more to go around. Hating on some idiot kid who played for us for a few years isn't gonna solve any of the current problems. We need an entirely new staff from top to bottom and it cannot happen fast enoug. 

Northbrook's picture

Yes we do need an entirely new O staff but who ratted out the DiGerimono guys?

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

good thing Pryor got that OSU sleeve to remind him of the legendary coaches career he destroyed.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

painterlad's picture

What's your vote: Passing a kidney stone every week for an entire decade or...

having Bollman call our offense all of next season?

Either way a dick is going to be involved.

To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.

chitown buckeye's picture

^^^Nice^^^LOL

"I'm having a heart attack!"

BuckeyeChief's picture

On the bright side, I hit mega millions for $7. FTW!

 

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Northbrook's picture

I'll meet you at the Leipzin Haus. You're buying.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Ha! I'm about to go eat a whole pizza and drink 2 beers and be in bed by 8 latest; I have a 1/2 marathon tomorow with a Clydesdale division, and I have a decent chance to place...I can't go 0-fer the weekend. (Daughter's team got bounced in the tourney; the league has a 5th grade team playing 7th grade teams.)

 

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LABuckeye's picture

Good luck. I'm a runner, too. I run ultramarathons but have tendonitis in my left foot as of two weeks ago. I "tried" to run a trail half marathon near my house this morning. I woke up this morning having not run in a week because of the tendonitis and with a bad bout of the flu. Probably should not have gone. Surprisingly, despite the lung goo, I ran up the mountain at the start without a problem, but the tendonitis flared on the downhill and I had to drop at the first aid station.

Buckeyejason's picture

Good luck In the run chief!

BUCKEYES BABY!

BuckeyeChief's picture

Thanks all!

It's definitely going to be weird and a little scary; I have trained my ass of for about 5 weeks for it, didn't lose a ton of weight BUT seemed to have dropped 2 pants sizes...I have a lot of expectations since I have been hill training (alot of hills in Point Loma, San Diego and Virginia Beach is flat) and the course is point to point and flat.

Scary because for literally the first time in my life there will be NO ONE that I know here; no wife/ kids/ father in law/ running friends or their families, so if something happens, I am SOL.

Looking forward to it. I am breaking out my Buckeye socks right now!

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BuckeyeChief's picture

1:46:52, smashed my PR!!!

Report here

 

 

 

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madhatterhater's picture

Why is Hyde not used in short yardage situations, I no Hall got them, but to it seemed like favorable spots.

go bucks

onetwentyeight's picture

I didnt get that either. Even in the Wisky game, we're sitting here using 190(?) pound Hall who is more of a receiver/ open space style RB, when we got 245 pound bruiser, Full-back sized El Guapo. 

 

But what do I know. I'm not a walrus. 

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Hyde should be our starter next year. He breaks tackles. Hall can't.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Bucksfan's picture

This team could still go 6-6.  WTF?!

SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

Because this is totally a 6-6 type of team. Like I said earlier in the thread, a few weeks ago Ohio State fans were questioning whether or not this team could even make a bowl game. Right before this game, everyone thought the Rose Bowl was a possibility. I think it's time we stop widening our eyes and admit that this is just a slightly above average Ohio State team; somewhere in between those two possibilities.

Bucksfan's picture

You're just stating the obvious.  You can do what you want.  I'm going to keep expecting Ohio State to win games.  When they don't, I'm going to be upset.

SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

I didn't say I wasn't upset. I expect this team to beat Purdue, but I'm far from shocked that they didn't.

LABuckeye's picture

I was kinda surprised, but then again, I really feel this year that we could potentially beat anybody and potentially lose to anybody... a result of having a lot of very young top talent that isn't being coached correctly and given bad plays to run.

Northbrook's picture

To me that is the crux of it.

Bucksfan's picture

I'm definitely shocked that we didn't beat Purdue.

LABuckeye's picture

You know, I think part of the excitement in college football is that anybody can beat anybody on any given Saturday. It doesn't happen all of the time, but as fans we all know that to be true. In college football, unlike the pros, so much is about emotion and pride and teams being ready to play a game. We all know emotion can often override talent. We have seen it in CFB many times. Given all of that, and all that has happened with OSU this year, and our known issues in coaching, why is ANYTHING a surprise to ANYONE this year?  

Abe Froman's picture

No pass rush, no holding calls when we were on defense.  I felt that the refs literally took our defense out of the game by letting their offensive lineman hold onto the LBs and DL all day.  Not even the ones that are supposed to let go, these were calls that created space each and everytime.  Do you want to know where the linemen were when they ran spreads?  Check the o-lineman yanking jerseys each time.

What really killed this team was the inability to get any rush upfield at all.  Do we miss Nathan Williams that much?

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

Bucksfan's picture

Ross-Ade Stadium is a factory of sadness.

presidentelectswagg's picture

missing Big John Hakins too. Marve just ran wild. How we lose to a team scum blew up just wks ago. That's definitely unacceptable.

Buckeyejason's picture

This years a wash in my book. I can go on and on about the problems, but we all watched the game and witnessed it. Let's just get this horrid year of Ohio state football over and hope for all new coaches..aggressive ones that aren't afraid to be creative on offense, blitz and play man on defense, and use whatever talent we have. Can't say I'm suprised.. Not one bit after watching everygame this year.

This just isn't a good football team from the coaches to the players. I don't even get angry during games anymore, it's useless. If we don't hit a homerun with a new coach in the off season I'm scared to say that Jabba the Hoke and company will run the big ten and own us just like Tressel did to them.

Somehow I think we win ugly vs Penn state, only because it's a home game.. But we end our winning streak vs tSUN in "The Game".

BUCKEYES BABY!

BuckeyeChris's picture

We put four and five star talent on the field and coach them down to three stars. Then, we say to our opponent, "Go ahead and beat us. If you can shut down a MAC offense, good for you."  

TheHostileDwarf's picture

FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK!

Fuck.

Nope, I don't feel any better.

JakeBuckeye's picture

I think these coaches and players need to give themselves some homework over the next few weeks (or months for those that are returning): My suggestion is to watch the Buckeye basketball coaches and players so they can learn how to be true Buckeyes. Boom Herron, Braxton, Simon, Hankins, and Roby can be excused from this. The rest of them have no heart.

LABuckeye's picture

Just a thought... many of them may not have heart. They all came here expecting to play for Tressel. Doesn't mean they should give up, but they are kids (you could call them grown men, but the underclassmen are barely that). Many of them at this point are probably not too happy with what is going right now in the program. I, for one, am a stand up and take charge person and believe greatly in personal responsibility... but I have a teenage stepson who is a slacker and does not, so I can see the other side.

baddogmaine's picture

My FIVE THOUGHTS. This was unexpected, but not a complete shock. For most of the year the signs that this *could* happen have been on full display.

1. Trrying to win with no passing game increases the risk factor tremendously. Purdue stacked the box and we were helpless in the first half, and not much better after intermission. We the fans got so giddy after the WIS game that we lost track of realities of games against teams with a minimum amount of ability and something to play for. Yes, our top three receivers were out, but we should have had plays that guys good enough to give scholarships to could have run. How many more losses will it take till fans believe that our running game is not good enough to be the entire offense?

2. The defense is sub-standard. We gave up nearly 250 yards in the first half alone, against an offense that was nothing special. We stiffened in the second half but in OT with the game on the line reverted to form. This defense can not be counted on to comnpensate for our anemic offense.

3. This is the second game in a row against an inferior opponent that we were unprepared for. Period. We were unprepared for Purdue in '09, but Tressell had a track record that permitted him a clunker, and we rarely stunk up the joint in consecutive games under JT. Arguments in support of Fickell are getting harder to make.

4. If we had a timeout after our score with under a minute left it should have been called. I will repeat that: IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED. Fickell needed to gather the kicking team, make sure that everyone knew their assignments, and not let them rush unto the field feeling cocky and getting careless. Not all coaches would have called the TO. But when a game depends on one play it is crucial that everyone be on the same page, and there would be no more crucial a play in the game than that PAT.  I don't know what happened but I can't shake the feeling that a timeout would have prevented it.

Of course if we didn't have a timeout left then it doesn't matter.

5. Win and we're 7-3 and with PSU's loss in control of the path to the B1G title game. Now we need to beat either PSU, who still have something to play for, or scUM, who would want to kill us even if they were 0-11, just to avoid ending 6-6. Unless Miller, the receivers and the defense get a lot better and our coaching and recruiting stabalize this looks to be a fairly average team for a few years

bucknut3011's picture

Best possible scenario for Fickell, and the Bucks...

Fickell sheds the head coach responsibilities, as he is interim.  New coach hired (Urban...?).  Fickell refocuses the defense (because between the last two weeks, they are regressing).  New head coach makes it his personal mission to demolish and rebuild the offensive coaching staff.

AcrossTheField11's picture

The people in hell have a better chance of getting a snowstorm.  There is no way Fickell sticks around.  As bad as we've looked and as mad as we've gotten at Fickell over the past 12 or so weeks, he's still done enough to get himself a head coaching gig at another D1 school.  I don't see him taking a backseat to Urban or anyone else after having been the guy for a season. 

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

misterpants's picture

Doesn't one have to throw from the wildcat formation at least once in a while for it to be effective?

LABuckeye's picture

Stop assuming walruses know anything about football.

BuckeyeChief's picture

lmfao!!!

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

LABuckeye's picture

Speaking of, it has been interesting to watch the battle on the Jim Bollman Wikipedia article between the current "The 2011 season has propelled him into national prominence, as he is now a likely contender for the head coaching position." and "The 2011 season has propelled him into national prominence, as he is the first walrus coach".

Indy_Buck87's picture

I have to say...what a bunch of fuck ups!  FIRED

I know of only two things that are infinite, space and human stupidity.....and I'm not sure about space". Albert Einstein.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Maybe this should go here instead.

Buckeyes lose to Penn State & Michigan.

Earn invite to Ticket City Bowl and lose to Tulsa.

Everyone but one coach is let go. Probably Stan Drayton.

NCAA issues penalties. All of current plus 17 scholarship reductions and two year bowl ban. Gene Smith resigns.

Tim Beckman named new HC.

Hello decade of darkness. FML.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Glenn Mason FTW!

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

AGL's picture

is there a position @ TOSU of Directer of Football operations ?  similar to a G.M. of a pro sports team.  If not this may be good time to create one.  DOF would not be a coach,  but would have say in who coaches, team direction, recruiting, compliance etc. 

Someone with vast football knowledge who does not want to coach but rather manage the football program.

Maybe TOSU already has this type of scenario in some capacity, I do not know.

Just don't feel like venting,  week after loss always sucks.  Hope OSU football team has great week of practice and comes out firing on all cylinders this saturday.

helloheisman's picture

Everyone actually thought the "car" was rollin again, i mean win against Wis, and "we rollin"...

NOT..This team is like playing "Black Jack" you dont know what the next card will be....but from what i saw on Sat...Mich is waiting in a dark alley with a baseball bat, angry and HIGHLY motivated....