Slow Start Dooms Buckeyes Against Lions

By Johnny Ginter on November 19, 2011 at 7:18p
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Moments. Right now that's what this team has. Not a full game's worth of effort, but a collection of moments rendered invalid by an even larger collection of mistakes and mental errors that probably should've been eliminated through coaching at this point in the season. Poor snaps by Mike Brewster, a critical false start on the part of JB Shugarts, dropped 1st down passes, and a litany of missed defensive assignments ultimately outweigh whatever temporary enjoyment you might've gotten from Braxton Miller being his usual quicksilver self, a heroic goal line stand, and Posey showing flashes of what could've been had he not decided that the NCAA's rules didn't apply to him not once, but twice.

I will say this; whatever coach comes to Ohio State next year, be it Urban Meyer, Tony Dungy, Urban Meyer, Tim Beckman, Urban Meyer, or Urban Meyer, has got to know what kind of a weapon that he has in Braxton Miller. No, he's not a great passer. And he may never be. But he is as dynamic as any player to suit up for Ohio State in the past ten years or more, and he, along with the play of a few select young defensive players, give me a lot of hope for this team going forward.

That said, the coaching on this team is predictably a mess. We give a lot of flack here to Jim Bollman, and rightfully so, but today was a true team effort. The receivers seem to be playing on pure dumb luck, and honestly I feel pretty stupid ever getting excited about the Mike Vrabel hire every time I see Sabino take the complete wrong angle to attack a play. Even Heacock, who has generally been regarded as one of the best coordinators in the business, seemed befuddled at how to handle Penn State running the wildcat, despite seeing it from his own team on a semi-regular basis.

The game started in pretty much as bad as it possibly could've; the Lions took it right at the Ohio State defense with two quick passes to Derek Moye and then a slashing run by Stephfon Green put PSU up 7-0. This was going to a recurring theme for the first half: Ohio State struggling to contain the Penn State rushing game and then getting burned after selling out to stop said run.

The ensuing OSU drive featured an great 39 yard grab by DeVier, and also a ridiculous mental error on the part of Mike Brewster acting as the bread to a Boom Herron sandwich. I feel like a score here could've changed the entire complexion of the game, but the end result was instead a punt and a collective sigh of exasperation from every OSU fan in the country.

Passing

  Cmp/Att Pct Yds TD Int Rat
Braxton Miller 7/17 41.2 88 1 0 101.6

Rushing

  Att Yds Avg Lng TD Fum
Braxton Miller 18 105 5.8 24 1 0
Dan Herron 18 76 4.2 15 0 0
Carlos Hyde 4 24 6.0 11 0 1
Jordan Hall 2 8 4.0 6 0 1

Receiving

  Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum
DeVier Posey 4 66 16.5 39 0 0
Corey Brown 1 10 10.0 10 0 0
Jake StoneBurner 1 7 7.0 7 1 0
Dan Herron 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

The second Penn State drive resulted in 3 more points, and it highlighted what has become a persistent problem for the Ohio State defense; stopping teams on third and long. Matt freaking McGloin connected on 3rd and 9 and on 3rd and 10 during this drive, and all of a sudden PSU was on top 10-0 with five and a half minutes left in the first quarter. In the last four games, Ohio State has been outscored 37-7 in the first quarter, and considering this team is barely built to play from ahead, falling behind that early is an absolute killer.

It was in this game, too. The Buckeyes responded with a 77 yard touchdown drive where Braxton Miller bullied his way 24 yards for a touchdown, but this was immediately followed by an 81 yard touchdown from Penn State that lasted all of 5 plays and two minutes and twenty seven seconds to make it 17-7. Silas Redd generally deferred to Stephfon Green in this game, but he still managed to account for 63 yards on only 8 carries. Kind of scary that this guy is only a sophomore and already better than Evan Royster ever was.

At this point the game was more or less over. Ohio State did pick up a nice interception courtesy of Orhian Johnson and converted into points by means of a rare Jake Stoneburner sighting in the wild (who, by the way, somehow has 7 touchdown catches this year despite only 13 total grabs).

After this, Penn State went right back to punishing the Buckeyes with the wildcat. Curtis Drake had a nifty 38 yard scramble to set up a 46 yard field goal by Anthony Fera, which made the score 20-10 and ended the scoring for the day, as the second half was pure hilarity for pretty much any non-OSU Big Ten fan plying his trade in schadenfreude.

One of the coolest moments this season, a fist pump inducing four down goal line stand, was rendered completely useless by a Carlos Hyde fumble that ended what seemed to be a promising drive. This would be a theme. On OSU's last real chance to take the lead, Boom Herron was running like a man possessed, Braxton Miller was showing off the moves that made Blackledge and Nessler pause for about ten seconds and just appreciate what happened to their eyeballs and then... JB Shugarts did what he does best, was called for the false start that was inevitable as it was infuriating, and not even a heroic effort by Braxton (who finished with 7/17 passing for 83 yards and 105 yards rushing on 18 carries) could pick up the critical first down to keep hope alive.

And that's it! This is the 2011 Ohio State Buckeyes. Some amazing individual achievements, including one hell of a game by Ryan Shazier as Andrew Sweat's replacement, get completely trumped by a seemingly unending series of poor decisions and dumb mistakes. It's been hard to watch this team this season. Not just because of the poor play, but because in some respects the team seems to be getting worse, and no one is above scrutiny. Not after a game when even the defensive line, considered to be the strength of the team, gives up 239 yards on the ground.

So, next week the team ventures into Ann Arbor; angry, wounded, and confused. Let's hope Fickell, the cranky professor, and a walrus can wring out some kind of magic from this team in what is almost assuredly their last rodeo.

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Menexenus's picture

Ryan Shazier is amazing!  Watching his sheer dominance, I imagine that this must be what it was like to watch Spielman play back when he was a freshman.  (I'm not old enough to remember Spielman.)

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Buckeyejason's picture

I agree. For a guy that looks like a wide reciever he sure as hell can hit. He's definitly growing on me!

Braxton is just a freak of a talent. He juked more defenders in this game then Pryor did in 3 years here.

BUCKEYES BABY!

billjones's picture

First, that game was awful.  We should have beaten those tools by 10 points.

Nevertheless, let's not be premature and start looking forward to the Urban Meyer era at TOSU just yet (for the record, I am thrilled at the possibility) because  we have 2 more games to play this season .  There is a ton to play for - let's focus on what this team can accomplish as it is currently constituted.  We still have plenty of talent.  I don't think it's a matter of heart either.  I am confident these guys can compete with anyone.  Clearly, attrition and distractions have taken their toll.  No doubt, the muddled coaching situation has also been a hindrance. 

But, we have to move on.  And next weekend is the only game that matters.  No excuses for coming out flat next week.  I don't even necessarily mind if we lose (with Bollman as OC, it's like playing with one hand tied behind our back, so it's understandable).  But we better leave everything on the field next Saturday.

Put me down as being confident that Luke will show us why he should be the Coach-in-waiting this coming weekend.

Gobucks542's picture

Bowl projections were just released, looks like we're going to the Vagisil Bowl because Fickell has turned our team into a bunch of pussies! The announcement of Urban can't come soon enough!

GOBUCKS542

F O U R's picture

Classy! Lemme guess, you have a sticker of Calvin pissing on something on your Silverado.

Menexenus's picture

I think you're thinking of Biggy84.  (See below a few posts down.)  :-)

Real fans stay for Carmen.

biggy84's picture

? Explain please.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Calvin picture.

 

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Menexenus's picture

Sorry, Biggy.  No offense was intended toward you.  I just thought it was funny that someone was referencing Calvin pictures when there was one just a few posts below.  That's all.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Gobucks542's picture

I think after this season I'm entitled to a few outbursts of uncontrollable rage. I apologize if you were offended, obviously you are a Fickell supporter. Sorry to disappoint but no Calvin and no Silverado. Nice stereotyping though.

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The Vest-er's picture

Just curious, but how else am I supposed express my disdain for the ford motor company?

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

BuckJI's picture

The game was disappointing, but halftime was unforgettable.  It ended with an encore of Script Ohio, with the i being dotted by the retiring director of 28 years Dr. Jon R. Woods.  This incredible man is an icon to the TBDBITL family.  He has been on the band staff for 38 years and is one of the biggest reasons why the Ohio State Marching Band has enjoyed its sterling reputation.  We may not always field the best football team, but Dr. Woods is without a doubt one of the reasons we will always be the Greatest.

 

Go Bucks.  Beat Blue.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAeUH7bcIZ8

slidingscrapes's picture

couldn't agree more about the unforgettable halftime. skull session went nuts when it was announced that the senior sousaphones, and then the whole band, had decided to invite Dr. Woods to dot the i, and there was an audible gasp and charge through the crowd when it was announced as a surprise to the stadium during halftime. as someone who has lived with TBDBITL members the last 5 years and tried out myself, getting to see Dr. Woods dot the i in his last home game, and the first game ever with two separate scripts, made the day special enough to be remembered fondly despite the loss. 

Show them Ohio's here!

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

I have no confidence in this team beating Michigan next week, since we lost to an average opponent that will lose by 2 TDs to the Cheeseheads next week. At times they play like they don't give a crap (stronger language deleted). The coaches are doing an awful job, every one of them. The scumbags from Up North haven't beaten us in a long time, and I think they're going to put a whipping on the Buckeyes. End of the Fickell era. Bring on Meyer or whoever else OSU picks, and bring in a new coaching staff. Seeing the Walrus getting his walking papers should make every Buckeye fan happy as we fans were when OSU won the National Championship in 2002. Take Heacock, too. His coaching in the past three games has been as bad as Bollman's uninspired play calling. When we will stop a 3rd and long? I doubt that will happen next week. Bowl ban, or not, I hope OSU stays home after the season ends next week. The Buckeyes don't deserve a bowl game. Take off the rose-colored glasses, this team is not that talented as some of you think. Miller can run circles around defenders but he will have to improve his passing to become a great all-around QB. Maybe next year he will get a real QB coach to make him the star that matches his great potential. And the rest of the players who are coming back will have to improve, too, to make the entire team a winner of the Leaders Division.

Brutus's picture

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was Heacock out there arm tackling and biting on fakes. The Buckeyes consistently have one of the best defenses in the country. The man behind that definitely must go. Never mind that there was not a single starting senior out there. Fire him. Yesterday.

biggy84's picture

Unprepared is on Heacock. This was game #11, enough with the young BS. The team was out coached again.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

OSU has some bragging rights right now over that school up north...on the ice. The Buckeyes men's hockey team just swept the Wolver-weenies on their home ice block. Friday night, OSU 2, Mushigan 1. Saturday night (tonight), OSU 6, scUM 5. If we can't beat them on a football field next week, at least we know the Buckeyes can grind them into the ice. Congrats to the Buckeye icers for bringing home a piece of Meeeshigan with them.

Menexenus's picture

Thanks for sharing this awesome news!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

buckeyedude's picture

Damn, I did not know that. That is great we beat their asses on the ice.  +1

 
 

iball's picture

I'm not sad to see the senior offensive linemen go. They started out as one of the best recruiting hauls in quite sometime and have done nothing but disappoint. Shugarts and Adams have no heart and brewster failed to become the leader this team needed. Capped off by one of his worst performances in his final home game. Maybe its time to find some kids who are hungry for success rather than slack offs posing as five star players.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

poop's picture

The situation is less than ideal don't you think? He's been a certifiable badass since he got here and suddenly he's playing like a freshman. Brew has been a leader from day 1 (how do you think we got such an awesome recruiting class that year) and performed beyond expectations most of the time. He lost his QB and his head coach and has been listening to his position coach get ripped daily for months. Like or not the NCAA and press have taken a toll on the psyche of the players and coaches and it's fully surfaced. Hopefully they beat Michigan's ass next week and they can end the season on a high note.

William's picture

Exactly how does this affect snapping a ball? Also what leadership? This team is lacking any form of leadership, and it shows.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I'd find this argument more persuasive, had Penn State's players not just been through about the biggest distraction imaginiable, and still figured out a way to show up for the opening kickoff.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Welp,

I have no confidence for next week. First time since 2004 I have felt like this. I really hope the bowl ban, if coming, comes this week.

*IF* there is no bowl ban, I think we are looking at anywhere from 7th-9th in the conference, so we are talking TicketCity (7), Little Ceasers (8), or an at-large bowl if we are invited at all.

As much as I love this team, I really don't want to see them in a bowl game. *The only* good thing coming from them making a bowl game would be IF the next head coach is in place and the team could get the extra practices...not with Bollman/ Fickell, etc. though.

And before someone decides to call me fickle, fairweather, debbie downer, etc. I am giving you my opinion. In 2004, I was pumped for the Alamo Bowl, because we had a young team, guys who were talented, but inexperienced. I have watched almost ever game this year, and I am perplexed. I would guess that the biggest problem is lack of coaching with these guys, I don't know. They just aren't good.

*Self editing, probably more than you need to know*

We all knew this was going to be a shitty season, but not an "I'm gonna stand hear and hope you run into me so I can tackle you" type of season...tell me you didn't see that shit today a dozen times.

At this point, I am pissed at Gene Smith, Tressel, the Tat 5, Fickell, Bollman, and Heacock, and everyone else besides B Miller, Big Hank and "All Flannel Tops" Simon.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BuckeyeChief's picture

To follow up, I freely admit I may be 100% wrong. What do I know.

 

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Brutus's picture

Chief, you should want to see this team in a bowl game for the exact same reasons. They are young and talented and inexperienced and more game time is only going to help. Not to mention, this team has been through a lot of shit in the past 12 months, most of it inflicted by two guys who are no longer with the team. These guys come to Ohio State in large part because of the bowl games. They deserve every opportunity to play, even if it's against a crappy opponent in a crappy bowl. As a fan base, we've been spoiled and selfish and whiny about everything. Meanwhile, no one on this site contributes anything to what actually happens on the field. If the players say they don't want to play or that the extra time won't do them any good, then I'll listen. But there are a lot of people on here who want the season to end just so they don't have to watch anymore. If that's the case, just turn off the tv.

BuckeyeChief's picture

You are right, in venting though, my main point or rather question is this: Will extra practices with THIS coaching staff help or stay the same?

 

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billjones's picture

Okay, let's raise the level of discourse here.  We've enjoyed 10 years of success that was unimaginable at the conclusion of the Cooper era.  I propose that we focus on the positives this week and see what happens.  We're not West Virginia for F*ck's sake.

BuckeyeChief's picture

So what bowl are we playing in? Is our new head coach, whomever it may be, going to be in place to run practices prior to and get our young team much needed practice?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

JakeBuckeye's picture

Our new head coach will not be in charge until after bowl season.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Unfortunate imho.

 

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JakeBuckeye's picture

That would really be incredibly unprecedented. I want Meyer in as quick as possible as well, but we can wait until after the season. Hopefully we decline our bowl invitation.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Unprecedented here? It has happened in other places, no?

 

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JakeBuckeye's picture

I don't think that has ever happened, no. I could be wrong.

faux_maestro's picture

Not necessarily unprecedented. I know it has happened before, I believe Cincinnati had their new guy coach the bowl against Florida after Brian Kelly bolted for Notre Dame. There are others but I can't think of them off the top of my head. Also, didn't OSU hire a new OC before the '97 Rose Bowl?

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

JakeBuckeye's picture

Cincinnati did not have their new head coach for the Sugar Bowl against Florida. An interim, Jeff Quinn, coached the game before Butch Jones took over for the 2010 season.

I'm pretty sure its never happened before. You can't completely redo your team and staff like that a month or less before a bowl game.

faux_maestro's picture

See my edit below. It was Brian Kelly who coached their bowl after Dantonio left for sparty.

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faux_maestro's picture

EDIT: Brian Kelly actually coached his first game at UC in their 2006 bowl game. It has happened.

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JakeBuckeye's picture

You are correct, sir. I looked it up on Wikipedia. But they even mentioned how much of an unusual move it was. I still don't think its a good idea for anyone to do that.

F O U R's picture

Sure, decline the invitation. This well oiled machine couldn't use an extra four weeks of practice.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Extra four weeks of practicing schemes that these players will never practice again? Let's get Urban in ASAP.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Also, not being a jerk...I did some quick research, but what is the B1G 9th place bowl game...really curious about that one, because that may be our destination.

 

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justingoblue's picture

Bowl games don't go strictly off of conference standings; OSU won't be going to the Pizza Bowl basically ever. Other then the Rose, teams are picked by selection committees, they can pick any team within two wins of another (so 6-6 OSU would be able to get picked ahead of 7-5 Illinois, but not 8-4 Nebraska). If all the favorites win next weekend, you're probably looking at the fourth or fifth pick if Michigan gets a BCS at-large bid. I'd put my money on OSU playing in the Gator or Meineke Car Care Bowl if that happens.

BuckeyeChief's picture

The Oregon Duck is doing half-a$$ed pushups.

 

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Menexenus's picture

I agree.  Do the push-ups right or don't do them at all.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

BuckeyeChief's picture

In other news, USC is doing their best to piss this one away, huh?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

blazers34's picture

fuck everything else.  It's Michigan week.  Let's beat those sons of bitches like they deserve to be beat.  who care what our recodr is right now.  it doesnt matter. who cares who our coach is?  It doesnt matter.  lets win this fucking game, and lets beat their asses!!!!!  Go Bucks!!!  

Menexenus's picture

This is one man who has his priorities straight!  There is only one thing in the world and that thing is beating Michigan.  Never forget what is "best in life":  To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
 

Real fans stay for Carmen.

faux_maestro's picture

Go Bucks! Who else sees this as 1987 all over again? The only thing missing, and it may still happen, is for Fickell to be out as coach this week.

 

Maybe we should bust out the EARLE headbands. We are undefeated in those ya know.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

LABuckeye's picture

I hate Chip Kelly, but I really hope Oregon finishes this comeback. I hate USC and Lane Kiffin with the fire of a thousand suns.

LABuckeye's picture

Oh well. At least my neighbors will be happy.

Baroclinicity's picture

Was at the game today.  Great goal line stand.  Sucked watching PSU gobble up big yards on that inside trap time after time, especially on a couple third downs.  Philly needs to catch that ball (did he just drop it?).  No pass rush; McGroin looked like an all-star.  Can't wait to watch 3 more years of Braxton.

I'm already seething at a potential loss to Michigan.  Drives me ape-shit thinking about it.  Here's to me being wrong.

Go Bucks!! 

BuckeyeChief's picture

Well, BCS 1-3 is about to be all SEC.

 

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NYC Buckeye's picture

Congratulations ESPN! You did it!!!  now only if Texas could jump 20 spots with a win...lol

F O U R's picture

I find ESPN to be irresponsible and manipulative too, but please accept that the SEC WEST is a monster that needs no help from ESPN.

Denny's picture

I had a feeling we'd lose today, but not in the manner which we did. My overall response to the game is this:

 

Taquitos.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Taquitos? I just had carnitas.

 

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LABuckeye's picture

Wow... 2, 4 and 5 all fall on the same weekend.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Some random thoughts:

Moments is right.  This team at times shows how good it can be, then they trip over themselves.  This was the latest in a line of losses in games that were winnable.  Just about every loss was winnable...saying Miami was winnable might be a stretch, but hey, a timely play and a TD here or there and the game could've become winnable.  No offense vs. MSU, blew a 21 point lead vs. Nebraska, blew an extra point that would've allowed us to beat Purdue barring a miracle, and then today - bad defense in the 1st half, turnovers in the 2nd half.  Along with the typical poor offense that has allowed opposition that shouldn't beat us to beat us. 

You know, if we were to just go out there and lose a game where we played as hard and as well as we could, and we came up short, then you can live with that.  You can admit your opposition was better.  But not once this year have I seen OSU lose and think "man, they were just the better team".  I think about all the bad things we did or the things that we didn't do. 

As much as I'd love to give Luke Fickell a chance, I can't.  It seems like we try to win on pure athleticism.  It seems like we're going to do what we want to do, regardless if it works or not.  We don't try to do things that other teams have done to our opponents with success.  That goes for offense and defense. 

There's a lot of talent on this team.  These struggles won't become the norm.  Things will get better next year.  I'm not sure how we're going to beat Michigan, though it certainly isn't impossible.  I'm not completely discounting our chances just because they played so great against Nebraska.  Northwestern beat Nebraska in Lincoln, and we were able to dominate them for a portion of a game.  Not to mention Wisconsin crushed them by nearly the same score, and we beat them.  Nebraska isn't that great this year, to be quite honest.  But Michigan looked good, and we better be ready to go Saturday. 

Give it a shot, take our loss if it happens, remind them that even with a loss, we have still beaten them 9 out of the last 11 times, get new coaches here, beat Michigan next year, and write this year's loss (if we lose) off as a fluke. 

Class of 2010.

onetwentyeight's picture

" It seems like we're going to do what we want to do, regardless if it works or not. "

 

I felt like this was the case even during most of the Tressel years. IMO the schemes haven't really changed, sure Tressel probably brought more creativity and flexibility than with Bollman alone handling the offense, but honestly this was how it was during the Tressel era as well. More or less. The only (and MAJOR) difference is that during those years, credit to JT, we executed much, much better. That plus the cupboard being much more bare due to attrition, suspensions, etc. 

 

But then I turn on the TV and watch the game like last night's fakeOSU vs Iowa St. and I notice Iowa state has a freshman QB as well... who has some footspeed ... and is "raw" throwing the ball. He looks like Braxton. Except, he's out there throwing for nearly 400 yards against the #2 team in the country. Yes, I know OklaSt 's Defense isnt GOOD, but its not any WORSE than the likes or PurDONT or Indiana, etc. And yet when Braxton throws, it seems like it's watching (pardon the insensitivity) a handicapped kid play qb. He looks like Denard Lite. Any pass down the field is a minor miracle. And its either that, or lets run Braxton straight up the middle off the snap, even though he's half Pryor's size and gets hurt easily. 

What I saw with Iowa state was, a QB who had EASY plays he knew he could make through the air, with a decent amout of runs sprinkled in, but mostly stuff out to the edge where he could avoid taking huge hits. You could tell their offense was simplified and tailored to make him look as good as possible, and utilized his running to complement his limited passing. 

You NEVER get that sense with a Bollman-led Offense. Its either SPRAY N PRAY, BOYZ! or ... "Hey defense, we're going to Run it up the middle" - style super obvious, telegraphed crap. 

And the WildHyde stuff? REALLY? I dont even have words ... 

 

 

 

 

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Bucks43201's picture

rrright now my head feels like the drums; and in this scenario - a combination of Jim Bollman's playcalling, the defensive scheme against PSU's "Wild Lion" formation, McGloin's 1st half completions on 3rd down, third quarter fumbles by OSU, and a little too much Jameson whiskey are Animal's crazy hands and drumsticks beating me down

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8aGlOj2VFo

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GoBlu's picture

What would you guys gain playing a team like Ohio or Southern Miss.?  Worth more in the long run to get ahead of the NCAA and self-ban yourself for the bowl season.

Meyer wont coach a team thats not a real contender with sanctions hanging over its head.

RBuck's picture

I wonder what are the odds of Fickell wearing a fedora and the players wearing "Luke" headbands in the toilet bowl?

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

blazers34's picture

also, can we talk about how dumb it is to run the Wildcat with Carlos freaking Hyde?

Northbrook's picture

I tried to but I fumbled.

Buckeyejason's picture

Did we pressure Mccloin at all yesterday? Besides the goal line stand and the last defensive series of the game the defense got embarrassed..again!

If the D-line wasn't all 1st year starters besides Simon I would say they are downright average. Hope they progress greatly in the off season.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyejason's picture

Its mind boggling that we're going to have as many losses this season than we've had in the past 3 COMBINED!

BUCKEYES BABY!

BuckeyeChief's picture

Little pressure, horrible tackling; how many times did a defender stand there flat-footed and wait for a ball carrier to run into him? This team has no fundamentals on Defense right now.

 

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Northbrook's picture

Did anybody else notice that Meyer and Speils didn't complain about the horrible roughing the kicker call against Nebraska in the game they were working? I wondered if that was their normal reaction or if they didn't want to irritate B1G refs since they would soon be coaching in same.

joel121270's picture

Does it make me a fair weather fan that I don't even get pissed off because of a loss this late into the season (this year only)?

As probably most anyone in here I hate to see this team lose but when they lost I went about my business whereas I was usually pissed to high heaven for a couple days as early as the Miami game.

Six losses? Wow, I got to think hard about the last time that happened during the regular season........I know we only have five but after how TSUN played yesterday I am not to opptimisitic. Hopefully, they come out and played possessed the way they did in the Wisconsin game and can stop some friggin 3rd downs!!

 

GO BUCKS!!

BuckeyeChris's picture

It is truly sad to look back on the recruiting class of 2008 and behold what they haven't achieved. All the hype around, "Block O," etc....

What an absolute Fail they have been. From the Tatt5 and TP's antics specifically. I would argue (is there an argument?) they, as a class, have done more harm than good to the program. 

buckeyedude's picture

I hate to say it, but I think I may have to change my avatar. 

 

 
 

BuckeyeChief's picture

How's it going? How's your son?

 

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buckeyedude's picture

Hey Chief! Long time no see/hear! My son is doing great, and thank you again so much for the stuff you sent. That was a very nice thing you did. He thanks you and so do I.

 
 

BuckeyeChief's picture

No problem. You are welcome!

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Bucks's picture

Struggling in this game wasn't exactly surprising to me so I couldn't get too worked up over it. The regression is what gets to me.  I really haven't seen much growth and instead witnessed a team getting worse as a grouping.

The O-line. Just no words really.

I'm hoping we pull the win against a team that has had a great season (puke). Hope is the key word there b/c if a 4 game 1st half performance skid becomes 5, we could easily find ourselves down 24-0. This is a huge game on many levels so I fully disagree with some sentiment that it doesn't matter. A ton of youth on this team that I'd love to not start out with a Michigan loss. A resurgent Michigan team under a goofball I can't stand that we could potentially knock out of a BCS at-large. A young QB who I'd like to have a history here like Troy's. They are going to be supremely confident in this game & knocking that back down a peg would absolutely be great for all of us.

Wow will it be cathartic when this season is over.

buckeyechad's picture

Shazier and Braxton will be very fun to watch for the next 3 (hopefully) years

blazers34's picture

i mean, we punted from the friggin 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   felt like a bad dream

buckeyejonross's picture

Actually, that's about the only thing in common with Tressel's old teams.

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

YTOWNBUCKI's picture

Yeah, we used to get ahead early by 10 and then run repeatedly. Now we get down by 10 early....and then run repeatedly.