Monday Skull Session

By Johnny Ginter on September 13, 2010 at 1:00p
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Happy Monday everybody, welcome to your afternoon Skull Session. After an insane weekend that saw your Ohio State Buckeyes stomp all over a ranked out of conference opponent (!) at home (!!!), the ACC imploding in incredible fashion, a guy nicknamed Shoelace rack up a bajillion yards, and Coco Cordero blowing yet another save (look, the playoffs would be great, but I really just want to be assured of a winning season first. Please. Please.), it'll be nice to get back to the usual grind of pretending we know anything concrete about our directional/in-state non-conference opponents other than that they suck. I mean, look, I love big time games as much as anybody else, but at this point I'm pretty sure that the importance of the game is directly proportional to the increased likelihood I'll need a pacemaker before I'm 30.

Anyway, there is some news on the injury front, but before we get into that there is some delicious schadenfreude to hash out here:

The Patron Saint Of Hubris CanesPundit.com recently appeared in our Buckshots feature for a pretty hilarious 27-13 game prediction in favor of the Hurricanes, but while obviously way off, at least it did come with the caveat that the game could be close due to several Miami turnovers. So okay, it's a stupid homer pick (despite an insistence that it was totally objective). But the real hilarity came on the 9th, when our overconfident friend started soliciting $20 bets from OSU fans, giving them Miami -6:

...Miami is going to win this game outright.  And you know what, I don’t think it’s going to be that close.  Forget getting 10 points, I’ll give points.  That’s right.  I’ve set aside $100 for my favorite Buckeye fans.  And, I will give you 6 points.  Miami -6.  That’s 16 off the spread, for you math challenged Buckeye fans out there.

Apparently two guys actually took him up on his offer, so good job on that, whoever you are. But hey, at least after the game Canes Pundit was contrite and had nice things to say about OSU fans and the team and even acknowledged that the Buckeyes had the game pretty well under contr...

...when a simple dropped pass caroms into the arms of a surprised defender, we have a hard time attributing team superiority on such a pivotal play.

AW COME ON DUDE.

Get Better Soon, C.J. C.J. Barnett, who had some monster hits against Miami and was playing a great game until he got hurt, will be out at least a week with a knee injury. The extent of the injury is not known, but contrary to some rumors that were going around on the messageboards, it is probably NOT his ACL. Hopefully it is just something along the lines of the injury that Nate Williams suffered and we can have the guy back before the Big Ten slate begins.smh

Congrats To Chimdi Thanks to his two interceptions and very solid cornerback play, Chimdi Chekwa was named the national defensive player of the week by the Walter Camp Football Foundation and the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week. That's two consecutive weekly awards won by Buckeye defenders, as Tyler Moeller also won Big Ten Player of the Week last week. What I love about this is that these two guys are probably not the first two names you'd think of if  someone told you the Buckeyes had won that award in consecutive weeks. This defense is loaded.

Duron Back To OSU? Even though most of us might have expected Duron Carter's return to Ohio State to be a given once he got his grades in order, Ken Gordon (through a Scout.com inerview with Chris Carter) has reported that that may not be the case. Duron has offers from Oregon, Tennessee, and will take a visit to Oklahoma soon. Weird. And irritating. Mostly irritating.

Useful Here's a handy weekly tv college football schedule, courtesy of SI.com. It updates every week, so keep an eye on it if you need to know what's coming up on ye olde movyng pycture boxe.

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btalbert25's picture

I thought this was a pretty good article from Forde on ESPN.   Sorry if it has already been linked but we beat up on the worldwide leader pretty bad, and mostly they haven't been to hard on the Bucks or Big 10 this year.  I think people realize how bad the ACC and Big East are this year.  Really the SEC East too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=5562174

BucksfanXC's picture

When I read that article I could see Forde gritting his teeth as he wrote it. He is one of the worst offenders of the OSU hate. I read his Dash for football and basketball every week, but take it all with a grain of salt.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Poe McKnoe's picture

one of the worst offenders of the OSU hate = one of ESPN's favorite employees

He just writes whatever his boss tells him to.

BucksfanXC's picture

Love the Red Legs mention.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

RE:DRERRRRP-Ron Carter

 

"COME-ON MAN!" - Cris Carter

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

PALM BEACH BUCKEYE's picture

So long to Duron Carter... can' t cut it at OSU???  Wanna transfer somewhere "easier".... fine.  OSU needs players it can rely on to stay IN THE LINEUP.  Good luck, you appear to be a nice kid and have fun in Eugene or Norman.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

a few repeated words up there in the first paragraph and what I believe is the second sentence -- I am not a grammar nazi and don't really care about syntax

it'll be nice to get back to get back to the usual grind

Johnny Ginter's picture

that was a milli vanilli reference

girl you know it's girl you know it's girl you know it's

Orlando Buckeye's picture

Just keep dancing, no one will notice.

beserkr29's picture

At this point, I agree with Palm Beach Buckeye.  This Duron Carter circus needs to ship off to seedier pastures.  Give Philly Brown, James Louis, or one of the other young guns a shot.  Duron's a head case.  Talented, but a head case.

PALM BEACH BUCKEYE's picture

Yup....  Alot of nice receivers in the waiting and ones who are remaining academically eligible.  It appears Young Duron was used to alot of hand-holding in High school (Private) and he wasnt ready to handle the load on his own shoulders.  I wish him well, but if he cant carry the load himself, then time to move on.  OSU will be fine either way. 

ToledoBuckeye's picture

I agree, I used to think having a guy that is 6"5 in the end zone would be great!  However, we could always split Terrelle out wide and have Bauserman throw him a jump ball like we did against Texas with Boeckman!

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn." - Woody Hayes
 

Buckeye in Athens's picture

Before the game on Saturday during warmups TP ran a few routes... just saying. 

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Re: Duron -- I like to see kids get a second chance to grow. Who better to help with that maturity process then the Buckeye family lead by Tress?  This is a win-win for Tress (and us) if he comes back.  Not only do you get a chance to help a kid grow and mature but he could potentially be a great addition to the football team.  That's just my opinion. 

btalbert25's picture

I agree with both sides.  I'm not so sure he's a so called head case, but he definitely needs to grow up.  At this point I say the team is fine without him, but he could be a great asset.  If he is willing to put in his dues on the field and in the classroom then welcome back, if he is unwilling to do what it takes to become the player we want or expect him to be, then good riddance.  I'm not going to attack the kid's character or anything because I've never met him and don't know him personally.   If Oregon is the place he needs to go to become that player, then so be it.  If it's back here in Columbus great.  This team isn't hurting without him, but it definitely could make room  for his talents if he has his head strait.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

And we want pops to keep his loyalty to tOSU.

btalbert25's picture

Chris Carter's loyalty won't have much to do with this I think.  The University didn't pull one over on Duron, it was his own doing.  If Duron goes elsewhere I think Chris will keep his loyalty to the Buckeyes.  Duron is his own man now(sort of) and if that's a decision he wants to make then so be it, but I don't see it turning Chris against the Buckeyes or anything.

Natty Light's picture

Duron could be a very valuable addition next year.  he does have some experience with pryor, and beat out a lot of other guys to be the 4th WR as a true frosh. 

 

also there is no better place for a 2nd chance and getting on the right path than Tress and OSU.  example: Tress reaching out to Clarett and having good things to say recently. 

Orlando Buckeye's picture

I'd take him back on the team, gladly.  It's not like they kicked him off the team.  He just wasn't quite ready for prime time academically.  If he wants to clean up his act and come back, welcome.  If he wants to go somewhere else, we'll be fine.  I just wonder why he wouldn't want to, other than just taking an easier avenue. (If that's the case, then we'll certainly be fine without him).

jfunk's picture

This just in: Denard Robinson finds cure to cancer, sets sights on Peace in the Middle East.

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TLB's picture

Chekwa wins the award for 2 picks.......but man, he is out of position way too much.

BucksfanXC's picture

I feel like they are always picking on him like he's the weak spot.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

btalbert25's picture

I think there are some in the crowd who will never be pleased with what this kid does.  Shawn Springs he is not, but there are a lot of teams in this conference and the country for that matter who would love to have Checkwa in their secondary.

Natty Light's picture

 yeah, he isn't perfect, but he is a 3 yr starter and the best we got.  not bad for a 3* recruit considering the other people we have in the program. 

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I can't remember where I saw or heard this but someone said or wrote something like --  only in the defensive backfield can you be a hero one play and horrible the next.

BuckeyeSki's picture

truth.com

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741's picture

He is almost always in position, and lead the team last year in passes broken up. He just does not usually turn his head around to make a play on the ball on deep routes - he generally plays the man. As such he is subject to perhaps more than his share of pass interference calls.

On underneath routes, where the receiver is in front of him and he naturally can keep his eye on the ball, he is talented enough to get in position and he gets his share of INT's.

buckeyedude's picture

Two interceptions and a great game notwithstanding, I'm glad he's on the Buckeye roster because I love saying his name: Chimdi Chekwa. That's fun, right there.

 
 

buckeye33's picture

Ohio State line next week 31 1/2... largest spread of the week..Alabama over Duke by 21, do they think Krzyzewski is coaching ? What are your thoughts on Denard Robinson...They have three cupcakes until Michigan State...in fact no real games for quite some time !

ToledoBuckeye's picture

Why are so many former great Buckeyes struggling in the NFL?  Carpenter was cut, AJ Hawk barely plays, Ginn was traded, T. Smith was cut, Gonzo lost his starting spot, Gholston hasn't lived up to the hype etc.  I am just surprised by some of these guys.  I thought they would be super stars.

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn." - Woody Hayes
 

Jason Priestas's picture

Until the last few years, Cooper's recruiting classes put Tressel's to shame. The Dispatch tried to say they were equal in an article last year, comparing AA selections and NFL draft picks, but they clearly were not.

btalbert25's picture

After the 49'ers performance yesterday we could very well see Troy playing regularly in the NFL.  Ginn was the victim of playing for a team that didn't have much competence at the QB position and he got the dropsies in the NFL.  I do think they could both be explosive in San Fran.

ToledoBuckeye's picture

Perhaps Troy Smith at QB with Tedd Ginn split out wide with the "new" Alex Boone protecting his blindside?

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn." - Woody Hayes
 

btalbert25's picture

I don't think all of those guys are because of poor recruiting either.  Hawk was a great college player, but I heard a lot of talk about people not being high on him as an NFL prospect around draft time.  Gholston was playing out of position, Gonzo missed all of last year and you can't help it when other guys step up and play well which is what happened in Indy.  Carpenter I don't know anything about what happened with him, but it's not just as if they weren't as good, sometimes this kind of stuff just happens.

Johnny Ginter's picture

the answer is pretty obvious, Tressel and co. are amazing coaches and know how to get kids to play within their scheme and over their heads for a while. i think there are some obvious exceptions to this (mangold is possibly the best center in the NFL, gholston has been playing out of position since he was drafted, malcom jenkins looks like he might be pretty legit, santonio was a super bowl MVP, etc), but there have been a ton of guys who looked amazing in college on big time teams that didn't pan out in the NFL. it's a totally different beast

Johnny Ginter's picture

to add to that, people can come out of nowhere to be NFL stars. wes welker was "just another texas tech slot WR" until he started kicking everyone's ass with the patriots. johnny knox went to abilene christian and no one had even heard of the guy until he ran a 4.3 at the combine and made the pro bowl last year. it's all a crapshoot

ToledoBuckeye's picture

True, however Cooper brought in some serious superstars!  I am having a hard time thinking of any of Tressel's players that would make the NFL hall of fame.  Maybe Mangold if he stays healthy.

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn." - Woody Hayes