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Bucks Get Their Glass Beat in 76-73 Tourney Exit

Chism Killed UsChism killed the cause with 22 points and 11 boards (5 off) (AP: P. Sancya)

Falling victim to what we knew might eventually do them in, OSU surrendered 18 offensive rebounds including the last one of the season on a Brian Williams tip in of a J.P. Prince miss with :35 left giving Tennessee a 74-73 lead that became a 76-73 defeat in one hell of a heavyweight fight.

Turnovers also played a key role in the heartbreaking loss as Ohio State turned it over three times in the final 2:17 after taking a 70-68 lead fueled by five straight points from foul plagued David Lighty. After two straight miscues (Lighty, Turner) sandwiched a Wayne Chism lay in, Turner answered with a clutch triple giving OSU a brief 73-72 lead setting up the Williams clincher.

Painfully, the Buckeyes had their chances in the final seconds but a hurried exchange between Turner and Kyle Madsen following an o-board of Turner's missed lay up allowed Bobby Maze to seize the rock and hit two free throws with :13 left as OSU had no choice but to foul. With most of us expecting UT to foul, they didn't and Turner was able to get off a leaning missed three from the corner before getting his own rebound and launching another prayer from the left wing that was blocked as time expired. The bench went crazy demanding a foul but the refs made their one and only correct decision of the night (both ways).

Leading the mismatch on the window and in the paint was Chism as he punished Ohio State with a 22/11 dub dub backed by nine points and 12 boards from Williams. Meanwhile, the tandem of Dallas Lauderdale and Madsen combined for six points and nine boards. The inside issues were exacerbated by Lighty's foul trouble. He sat out the final 13 minutes of the first half upon picking up his 2nd foul and he was called for his 3rd exactly one minute into the 2nd half after being pushed into a UT offender. Lighty's absence and/or cautious minutes not only hurt OSU on defense but also on O. Early on, he fed baseline cutters at will while bringing his big defender away from the paint.

With Lighty limited, Wil Buford's 2nd half vanishing act and Jon Diebler unable to find the range (1/8, 3pts) against the more athletic Vols, Turner clearly played as if it was his game to lose. He took 15 of OSU's 31 shots (10/23) and scored 21 of OSU's 31 points in the final 20 minutes, on his way to a game high 31 points. He also grabbed seven boards and dished five assists but he committed six of OSU's 11 turnovers. ET was especially large out of the locker room scoring OSU's first 14 points of the 2nd half helping the Bucks hold a 56-51 lead with 10:02 remaining.

Chism's 12 points in the final 10 minutes helped erase the deficit setting the stage for the Williams game winner.

Buford complemented Turner's night with 15 points but only three came in the 2nd half as he missed all five FGA's. He wasn't alone as the Buckeyes shot 30% in the decisive 2nd half after shooting 56% in the first while the final line on the boards read UT 36, OSU 23.

As expected, both teams played like their hair was afire during a frantic opening half marked by electric intensity, highlight reel plays and timely shooting. Ohio State jumped out to a 13-7 lead sparked by Lighty and Buford. Lighty was the orchestrator picking up four quick assists while Buford hit four of his first five shots via Lighty's backdoor passes exploiting lanes behind the Vol defense and a deep triple.

Tennessee would charge back with a 10-0 run, making OSU's D look bad in the process as Matta switched from the effective 1-3-1 zone to man after Lighty picked up his 2nd foul, a nickel-dimer, with OSU up 13-10 at the 13:41 mark. The defense wasn't the sole reason, however, as Turner coughed it up twice leading to five easy points and a 17-13 UT lead.

Jeremie Simmons would help steady the ship as he got hot from deep cutting the lead to 17-16 then taking the lead 19-18 on the strength of back to back triples. The teams would jab back and forth from there generating five ties and two lead changes in the final nine minutes. Five different Buckeyes would score over the final 4:18 including threes from WB and Simmons giving OSU a 42-39 lead at intermission.

The entertaining half saw WB hit for 12 points (5/8) while Turner added 10 (3/8) to go along with three boards, assists and turnovers. At the other end, Tennessee hammered the Buckeyes on the offensive glass 11-4 in the absence of Lighty. The 2nd chance points helped UT offset 56% shooting from OSU (15/27) including 6/11 from deep.

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Buckeye452710 on 26 Mar 2010 - 10:56pm #

There is not anything else you can say. Well put. Points in the paint killed us.

We could of used Sullinger. Will he be a one and done guy?

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JakeBuckeye on 26 Mar 2010 - 10:57pm #

I guarantee he will, but I'll take him just as I did Oden.

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JakeBuckeye on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:02pm #

Let's start looking forward; http://espn.go.com/video/clip?...

It's going to be a long 159 days...

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BuckeyeChief on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:07pm #

Great write up. Size on Tenn and lack of adjustments by Matta (not leaving Simmons and Madsen in instead of Diebler and Lauderdale), no attempt at boxing out, and a total "John Starks" effort on offense. Jump shots do not win games w/o points in the paint. I like Matta, but jeez, can we adjust?

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bup bup bup on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:16pm #

"baskets ball"? i dont even... a hoop? a sport with a hoop? i have never heard of such ridiculousness

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Matt on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:17pm #

Matta is a lights out recruiter. He is an average, if not below-average, X's and O's guy. What the hell was that last play? Was that even a play?

You keep Diebler in the game on a 1-8 night. While Simmons goes 9 points on 3-4 from behind the arc? What is the logic in that move by Matta? Diebler is a fucking liability on the defensive end, so we know he wasn't in the game.

I'm furious about this result because I honestly think the Buckeyes should have won. They pissed it away because no one but Turner wanted this win. And it's a shame, because the second best player in Ohio State history will go to the draft. Matta will continue to recruit the lights out and not maximize the talent.

Football needs to start soon. Like, tomorrow.

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BuckeyeChief on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:25pm #

Second? Don't forget Jimmy Jackson!

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NumbNuts on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:31pm #

Diebs killed us.

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JakeBuckeye on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:34pm #

+1

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Matt on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:36pm #

I hereby institute a no whitey rule for our team. Koufos, "Byron" Mullens, Diebler--they never amount to shit.

For some strange reason, this loss is affecting me even worse than Purdue Harbor, and I struggled to understand why.

No more whitey.

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BuckeyeChief on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:40pm #

Jerry Lucas? John Havelicheck (sp)? Jay Burson? Come on man!

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BuckeyeChief on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:42pm #

Just not understanding how Deebs can be playing for three years and can't make a shot that's not an open three! He never drives, none of these guys other than Lighty do.

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Matt on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:42pm #

Sperms and eggs that were hanging out when Burson was playing are now people who are old enough to legally imbibe alcohol. In other words: it's been a long time. I stand by no whitey rule.

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BuckeyeChief on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:47pm #

Just being a jackass on that one!

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jdm on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:47pm #

so lighty, lauderdale, and bufford played lights out?? come on dude, i know you're joking, but still.

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Matt on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:49pm #

At least we can take solace in the fact that we don't start players who either (A) ride around in a car with drugs and a gun or (B) are dumb enough to get caught riding around in a car with drugs and a gun. Stay classy, Rocky Top.

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Joe on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:49pm #

Not to mention the fact that none of the starters besides Turner can get a rebound.

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BuckeyeChief on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:52pm #

If Turner stays and Sully plays like we think he can (remember Felipe Lopez at St Johns? Didn't think so) we have a great shot. Don't see Turner staying though.

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jdm on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:55pm #

YES, exactly. the need for a person who can post up (doing SOMETHING with the ball), play solid defense, convert free throws, and oh my god rebound is fucking huge.

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ERIC OSU on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:55pm #

rebounding was atrocious tonight,unexcusable. big sully is an absolute beast on the boards thank goodness, for those of you who have watched him play.

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ERIC OSU on 26 Mar 2010 - 11:56pm #

lets not forget sully can actually hit free throws!!! wow lauerdale and lighty went 0-4 from the line in a spurt if i can remember correctly? killer

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zosima on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:07am #
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zosima on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:07am #

(insert Tun/RR joke here)

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BuckeyeChief on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:09am #

Yep. Missed free throws + 1 million jumpers= Loss

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Charlie on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:27am #

288 DAYS TIL GLENDALE!!!!!!!

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:44am #

lets be real here for a sec...... Reason we lost this game:

1. Tenn wanted it more.... they showed that after the first 5 mins of the game. They moved a little quicker and looked mentally tougher tonite.

2. Offensive rebounds..... how many times were 3 Buckeyes out rebounded by 1 Volunteer??? 2 and 3 put-backs of missed shots??? Having Lighty out with foul trouble did not help.

3. How many times was that play open with Chism coming across the front of the court to slam it home???

4. With all the above issues, it was still OSU's game to lose at the end..... but think about all the missed foul shots---those were the game. Lauderdale missed 4?? Lighty Missed 2??? Missed FT's were the key here.......

I kept wondering when the adjustments were coming to the power in the paint.... they killed us inside and we had no answer. Lauderdale looked lost and was pretty much a non factor. Without that big man factor, it is hard to go beyond 16.

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Ape Sack Intern on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:45am #

Choke job, plain and simple. This team had a Final Four berth basically handed to them and couldn't get it done. They played an awful game and still lost by just three. What a waste.

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Andy Feyen on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:59am #

Ease up on Jon Diebler, he hit over 40% of his three's this year (not easy) and in an alternate reality where the three refs who swallowed their whistles for the final 2 minutes were also officiating with 2:09 left, he made the steal and lay-up that put Ohio State up 4 (by the way can we get an emmy for the cbs crew with their 0 replays of this play).

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Sgt. Elias on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:14am #

Agreed, Turner was on his own tonight, reminded me of the team before it gelled. We got killed inside , DL was a non factor, and frankly the zebras wouldn't call a foul when ET had the ball unless Hezbollah knifed his family. Fuck. Whatever. Pulling for Sparty now. My grandparents met and married while there, so I can feel okay about that (my existence depended on that). The lack of defense was ....mind numbing. Were we tired or what, WTF happened? Matta failed to adjust, why do we never call timeouts when the shit hits the fan?We just ran cooooold, save Turner. I really think those 2 tick-tack fouls on Lighty set the tone. I hate refs in all sports FWIW. I'll have another hate-beer. And props to Jism, he played lights out.

All in all though good season, I love these kids, just a tough break. Next year we will be murderous.

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jdm on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:18am #

.......and if i might add, a tennessee player had the exact same steal, and im not exaggerating here.....it was even worse, and that was maybe 2 or 3 possessions after diebler's steal was taken away from him. horrible officiating on that one. that really could have been a momentum boost and possibly a game changing play.

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A Bag of Doritos on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:19am #

Thad needs someone to help with drawing up plays or communicating with players. That last drawn up play was unpossibly bad.

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:23am #

This is about as far as I thought this team could go. But after all the upsets, there was a good chance they could have made it to the final four.

But, our weaknesses were exposed big time in this game. No rebounding, no point guard and no 3rd guy. Diebler should turn in his scholarship and pay the school for allowing him to play. It was obvious that he was off, why not put Simmons in for him in the 2nd half?

That said, I think these officials watched the WVA game on Thursday and didn't want to let this game get out of hound. They did a very good job of calling an awful game both ways. NCAA people cannot be happy with that crew.

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A Bag of Doritos on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:44am #

you have an irrational hard-on for Diebler.

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BuckeyeChuck on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:57am #

Just wondering:

1. Why is it that both Purdue and MSU always seem to have 3 frontcourt players who can't do anything but rebound and knock heads, while the Buckeyes are always lucky if they have even one?

2. How is it that a perimeter-oriented offense can draw more fouls than the opposition does constantly going to the basket, and yet so many of that team's fans still believe that the officiating is the reason they lost?

3. Will the Buckeyes ever again survive long enough in the NCAA tournament to lose to a higher-seeded team? The last time they did was in the 1999 Final Four, against Connecticut. Our March record in games where we're favored is really not that good, going all the way back to when the '91 team was a top seed and got eviscerated by St. John's in the Sweet 16.

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Buckeye75 on 27 Mar 2010 - 2:01am #

Proof that we only could go as far as Diebler would take us-as much as you all hate Diebler, he is the reason we made it this far. Completely disappointing....we had far too many turnovers, and Matta was out-coached. Here's to next season!

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ERIC OSU on 27 Mar 2010 - 2:18am #

You know what makes me sick, watching ESPN after the game and Dook Vitale giving his "send off" to Evan Turner for such a great career now that he's probably going pro. Vitale says that Turner played great, blah blah blah, but the funny thing is when did the old bloak watch Turner at all during his three year stay? Vitale was too busy crowd surfing at Duke, or announcing five-six games of Kentuckys going off saying Wall POY! diaper dandies! best freshman class since the Fab 5, oh i guess our class in 06 didnt exist to you Dookie V? Gimme a break Dick, you barely knew Evan, which is also why your so blind to giving every ounce of air-time praising Wall. The last time Dick announced a OSU game was during the Big 10/ACC challenge during the 07-08 season, so dont gimme this trash that you saw Evan Turner flourish at the college level when you were too busy with your stupid idioms and ACC-homerism.

rant done/that felt good.

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Andy Feyen on 27 Mar 2010 - 2:37am #

The rebounding was an all year event, not a single night phenomenon. Lighty, Bufford and Lauderdale all need to improve their defensive rebounding if this team is going to have an elite defense next season (there are only 2 ways to stop an offense, rebounds and turnovers). Seriously, why isn't Lighty an elite rebounder (Bufford and Lauderdale are at 14.5% and 16.6% to Turner's 24%, Lighty is at 10.1%).

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Red_Queen_Race on 27 Mar 2010 - 3:13am #

You pretty much nailed it, IMO. The zebras did not cost us this game. Beaten 36-23 on the glass. Nearly 50 points given up in the paint and we gave up 15 points more than our average. An off night for key offensive players. It's surprising that it was as close as it was.

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Red_Queen_Race on 27 Mar 2010 - 3:15am #

So Simmons was not an option?

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ArmyRanger00 on 27 Mar 2010 - 3:49am #

I have said it since Johnny D stepped on campus this kid is the next Brandon Fuss Cheatham. A lights out scorer in high school does not make you a superstar on the next level. This kid has a great shooting night once every 8 games. So for 7 out of 8 games not only do we get the average to below average game on the offensive end but we get to watch him get blown by on the defensive end.

Most nights this season Simmons should have played 15-20 minutes because of Dieblers problems but it just never happened. This has baffled me for 3 years and now I get to look forward to seeing him on the floor all of next year.

Thad has the fire that I have always wanted to see out of an OSU coach but this thing with Diebler is mind-boggling. This kid is not a 30 minutes a night player on the major D-1 level and if there were any doubts before tonights game, they were erased forever after that performance.

Keep doing what your doing Coach Matta but please watch the film from this year this kid does not make you better in the long run.

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BuckeyeChief on 27 Mar 2010 - 8:09am #

FTW. Been up since 5 laying in bed mad!

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Anonymous Internet Person on 27 Mar 2010 - 8:28am #

ditto - the Vols wanted it more. Refs didn't take this away from the Bucks; we had the game won and chose to play and coach poorly down the stretch.

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JT on 27 Mar 2010 - 8:30am #

was he hurt this season or does Thad not like to go deeper than 7? Simmons was on and how you don't stay with a hot hand is beyond me...

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jr on 27 Mar 2010 - 8:59am #

Last possession was the most akward looking thing I have ever seen. Thad dropped the ball

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 27 Mar 2010 - 9:09am #

If we keep the points in the paint down.... OSU wins in a walkaway....... Pearl saw what was going on and changed his strategy before halftime. He kept the same philosophy after the half and we never adjusted.

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RBuck on 27 Mar 2010 - 9:50am #

This team really overachieved IMO and I'm going to miss watching them play.
Thanks for the ride Basketbucks. RNC next year.

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BuckeyeChris on 27 Mar 2010 - 9:55am #

Ah-hem... Chris Jent?! Hello!!?

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BuckeyeChris on 27 Mar 2010 - 9:58am #

I definitely had a feeling that if they could just get by Tenn, they would sail into the Final Four b/c I felt like Tenn presented more match-up issues for us than Sparty/UNI.

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BuckeyeChris on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:03am #

jr... they don't have any set plays.

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NYCBucks on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:26am #

I said the same thing -- do you think Matta said OK, everyone run around like they are lost, ET - you run right to the corner and take an akward leaning 3 as time expires. Everyone got that?

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NYCBucks on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:29am #

pefect analysis -- couldnt have said it any better myself. Matta got out schemed by a better Xs and Os guy in Pearl. Had no answer for TNs offense in 2nd half. They were getting layups to our jump shots. It was only a matter of time until we went cold for a few min.

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Nate on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:33am #

I had forgotten (maybe pushed the pain out of my mind) that one, but that's a good point. We go up 4 there, and the game is not over, but would look a hell of a lot different. Big time ticky-tack call.

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Nate on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:45am #

I loved Jent. Nice.

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:50am #

1-8, 2 airballs, no assists, no rebounds, 1 turnover.

Was like playing 4 on 5.

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:51am #

So not true. Just needed someone to score. Others did their part early. Diebler did his part never. See above.

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Nate on 27 Mar 2010 - 11:14am #

Really, the last couple of years I'd been pretty critical of Thad, but I honestly think he did a good job this year with 5.5 players. Now that the season is over, we won a B10 title, B10 tourney title, and made the Sweet 16. I'd rather have Matta then Bruce Pearl's ridiculous ass any day. This is the farthest Pearl has even been in the tournament, whereas we're going at least this far next year. He had a great center that was a four-year starter, and we didn't match up. This was the toughest team left in the bracket, and while we didn't win, we could have. If we did, we'd all be singing his praises for being in the Final 4 again. Just sucks that Sparty had a cake game with a cinderella for their sweet 16. How lucky is that? KU doesn't get upset, and Sparty would have been toast.

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southbaybuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 11:16am #

you're an idiot. everyone has bad games.... except those who don't play/never played.

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 11:28am #

you would be wrong.

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Brian D on 27 Mar 2010 - 11:52am #

And that is why Wall will win NPOY!!! Dook Vitale praised Wall and probably doesnt know Turner's alias is "The Villian"

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Brian on 27 Mar 2010 - 11:56am #

The Buck's defense was horrible, Tennessee kept getting shots wide open under the basket. Then no one could get freaking rebound.

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Brian D on 27 Mar 2010 - 11:59am #

I wasnt able to watch the game due to being in class but, am really curious to know how Diebler did. I really dont want to see any highlights of the game as I was paying attention to the updated score on my phone while sitting in class. I also dont want to listen to ESPN trash Ohio State and sing praises to a SEC team. I dont believe we could have won this year with out an inside presence especially if we would have run up agaisnt Kentucky. Next season with the big kid we're bringing in and another year of Swatterdale, our front court could be pretty damn formiddable. I believe Lighty stays but Turner is probably out and I am still unsure what Buford does. I dont believe he is big enough to play the small in the NBA and may want to stay and try to get some play in at guard. He has the game to go pro just not sure where he'll fit in. Diebler isnt going anywhere and I would really like to know why Matta didnt try to run a play for him. Have Turner look for a shot but since everyone on the court knew he would be looking to take it run a behind the scenes play to get Diebler open and try and nail a three. Diebler is the more dangerous shooter and it makes sense to me. Whats the worse that was going to happen? Diebler miss? Just my thought.

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Todd (not Boeckmann) on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:10pm #

Its obvious that most of you are football fans just looking to kill time until next Saturday. I said after the B10 tournament that this team isn't built for a long run in March. No height or physical presence inside. Too much reliance on the outside shot. Those are killers. The only thing that was balanced by was every night the Bucks had the best player on the floor. Just as the Cavaliers prove in the NBA, sometimes that isn't enough. Last night it wasn't.

Now, I am going to call a few people out.

Matt, you are a rascist asshole who has no business posting here. You are an embarassment to all Buckeye fans. Please go back under the burning cross you crawled out from under and bother us no more.

ArmyRanger and NumbNuts (There's an apprapos name), I bet you were singing Diebler's praises while he was going 11 for 22 from the arc. Deibler's problems were not that he sucks. It was that he feeds off the Buckeyes collapsing the zones which frees him for open looks. Last night, Tennecheats made it a priority that no matter what, someone was always in his face. A nice adjustment that I am surprised doesn't happen more. Usually, that creates open space for the slashers Lighty and Turner. For some reason, Lighty decided that he wanted to throw up threes too. I haven't looked at the stats this AM, but how many shots did Lauderdale get? Do you think he shoots 75% from the field because he is Deadeye Dick? Nope, its because Lighty and Turner pentrate and then dish him the ball. That did not happen last night.

My only complaint with Thad was that he stuck with the 1-3-1 too long. I thought that the zonepress and the MtoM defense was successful, although the MtoM broke down towards the end.

Finally, the Buckeyes were abused on the boards. Lauderdale played like he was intiimidated by Chism. As undersized as they are, Matta had no alternative to turn to once it was evident that Tenneecheats wanted it more.

Hats off to the Volunteers. They deserved their win.

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202toOSU on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:15pm #

MATT FRIGGIN TERWILLIGER.

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BuckeyeChuck on 27 Mar 2010 - 12:52pm #

Michigan State was a fifth seed playing a nine. We were a second seed playing a six. It's the same spacing, the same amount of "good luck." (This is leaving aside that being without your best player is usually not a sign of being lucky.)

Only difference is that the Spartans know how to win in March, while for the fifth time in our last seven NCAA appearances, the Buckeyes lost to a team seeded at least three slots below them.

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RBuck on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:43pm #

56% in the first half. 30% in the second. The shooting legs finaly gave out due to UT's constant pressure; regardless of what Matta says.

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Ian_InsideTheShoe on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:45pm #

William Buford is coming back, so theres that..http://www.thebuckeyebattlecry.com/2010/3/27/1392749/william-buford-to-return

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Bucksfan on 27 Mar 2010 - 1:52pm #

Lighty's absence was actually a non-factor. Buckeyes were up 5 at halftime.

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Anonymous Internet Person on 27 Mar 2010 - 2:23pm #

MARK THE SHARK!!!!

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mfd11 on 27 Mar 2010 - 2:32pm #

A better question is why was Tennessee a 6 seed? They beat Kansas AND Kentucky this year, and were in the top 15 almost all season.

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JakeBuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 3:39pm #

I just realized something...

If Evan Turner stayed this long (until his junior year at this point) at Ohio State, why not finish it up...?

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Jason on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:04pm #

$

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Matt on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:04pm #

Because he's going to go second in this years draft. And make millions of dollars for his family. He's already suffered a serious injury, and he knows it could happen again, except this time end his career. And then the NBA owners are going to renegotiate everything to screw younger players.

If Evan Turner stays, I might actually be upset. The Kid has nothing left to prove, it's not his fault every OSU big man left early. He needs to get to the Show and get what's his. God speed, Villian.

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Matt on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:05pm #

Interesting exchange on Turner's twitter; anyone notice how he got off the floor and didn't stay to shake hands? From a fan to ET:

@thekidet So, why didn't you shake hands after the game last night?

From ET to fan:

@knightni73 they were busy celebrating.

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wahhhh on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:15pm #

Turner is a poor sport. Constantly whining to the refs and jawing with opposing fans. Can't take a loss like a man! Voters shouls vote for Wall over Turner. But, I guess it fits in with Matta and the fact that he runs up the score on lesser teams, keeps his starters in and allows them to shoot early in the shot clock when the game is absolutely out of reach. I guess if he had actually given his bench players some time and not tried to run up the score all season, his back-ups would have been better prepared to contribute when the team needed it... perhaps OSU would still be playing!

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buckeyebrowny919 on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:31pm #

stop being a bitch and gtfo

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buckeyebrowny919 on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:32pm #

like x 1,000,000...we'll be just fine next year..bring the pain, Sullinger

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buckeyebrowny919 on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:33pm #

CONSPIRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACY...yyyyyyyyyyarrrrrrrghhhhhhhh

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JakeBuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:33pm #

Shut up. In the press conference after the game when asked about if the last play was a foul he said the play could of gone either way, and that he shouldn't of let it get to that point anyway. Yeah, he's a real whiner.

Though I'll agree that he does whine a bit on the court, I'll take that over John Wall who consistently pumps his chest and dances on his way back to the defensive end. You'll never find Turner doing that.

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JakeBuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:36pm #

@ Jason:

Good point, money makes the world go round.

But it's fun to think that we may go from least deep to the deepest team in all of basketball in a span of 1 year if Turner stays.

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JakeBuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:37pm #

@Matt:

"And make millions of dollars for his family."

I don't know his mom personally, but I'm quite positive that his mother will be the number 1 supporter of him staying for his senior year.

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Chris on 27 Mar 2010 - 4:38pm #

Spot on, Matt...I would also feel like ET made a huge mistake if he stayed. You go to school to prep for your future, his future is being selected #2 in the Draft and being financially set for life. Throw in the likely changes to rookie contracts you mentioned and its really a no brainer. A decision like this shouldn't be made with the heart. He has to go.

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jdm on 27 Mar 2010 - 5:17pm #

shut the fuck up, next.....?

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BuckeyeChief on 27 Mar 2010 - 5:38pm #

I love how everyone has an opinion on how you should lose gracefully. Get to the situation yourself and let's see how you react.

Good game to the Vols. Turner couldn't do it all by himself, and Matta only played who he played because they where thin. It would've been a different story if "Byron" (is that what we're calling him now?) was still here. Even Koufus.

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TlLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 6:26pm #

Wish they would've called our game like this Butler game.

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buckeye in athens on 27 Mar 2010 - 6:35pm #

So over on the bucknuts forum someone has a thread called "Terrelle Pryor out for 16wks broken arm" - does anyone have premium access to check this out?

In other Pryor-related news, bucknuts/espn reports that TP is "grating" on team mates?

Bad day for Pryor news..

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JakeBuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 6:41pm #

It's probably just bullshit.

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Sean S. on 27 Mar 2010 - 7:00pm #

He's made 42% of his threes and 1.4 PPWS (don't know if you follow that stat at all, but that's very good). I don't know what more you can reasonably ask from Diebler.

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JakeBuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 7:15pm #

@Sean:

Yeah, the hating on Diebler is such bullshit.

He did nothing but carry us on Turner's off days.

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JakeBuckeye on 27 Mar 2010 - 7:44pm #

Wait, somebody probably caught this already, but isn't it ironic how in 2007 we won on a huge block in the Sweet 16 against Tennessee, while this year Tennessee won on a huge block in the Sweet 16 against us?

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Luke on 27 Mar 2010 - 8:02pm #

It's from the free board, so Il'l gladly copy and paste it:
"According to backup QB Kenny Guiton, Terrelle was involved in an late night altercation with a guy in a local bar around 2 am. Apparently, the police report mentioned...a white male approximately 6'2" 180lbs, told TP that "OSU WILL BE SUCKING MASSIVE COCK IN 2010!" From what Kenny guiton seen and heard, TP threw a upper cut while SCRAMBLING WITH EYES DOWN FIELD, CHUCK NORRIS ducked and commenced to roundhouse kick Terrelle in the endzone for a safety.....True story, trust me. Lighten up bucknutters, this will be a remarkable year as long as CHUCK ISN'T PLAYING. GOD BLESS US ALL......GO BUCKS"

Sorry, you can't have those 40 seconds of your life back.

Not buying the "a few players are put off by Pryor's stardom" meme, either.

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ArmyRanger00 on 27 Mar 2010 - 8:44pm #

I don't think Diebler should sit the bench but look at the stats everyone talks about with him. His 3pt%. He is a one dimensional player on offense and does not play a bit of defense. So in your mind he should play 30+ minutes?

Why is it unreasonable to sit him down when he is 1 for 8 shooting and a liability on defense?

I mean do we just play people based on what they did in a game in November or adjust game to game?

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Dean on 27 Mar 2010 - 9:39pm #

Because he's had games where he started 1 for 5 and then hit three straight. That's the thing with three point shooters, you just have to wait and hope they get hot. Diebler DID get hot more often than not this year. As for "adjusting game to game," the guy was 11 for 22 from downtown in the first two rounds - he got us through when Turner was cold.

He's a great asset to the team, and will likely be even more consistent in his senior year. I can't wait to see what he does next year.

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is it Saturday yet? on 27 Mar 2010 - 9:47pm #

How is Matt a rascist and the person who said we shouldn't play white folks doesn't get mentioned? Seems a bit like a double standard to me.

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is it Saturday yet? on 27 Mar 2010 - 9:48pm #

please translate for the slow and drunk

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:05pm #

Huggins putting on a coaching clinic against Calipari.

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:13pm #

Valentine just blew a huge call. How can he be doing an Elite 8 game?

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jdm on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:22pm #

what a terrible ref. nothing like extending a game, eh?

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:24pm #

He just wanted some national TV face time.

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jdm on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:25pm #

true, true.....and turner was more impressive against tennessee than wall was tonight

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:25pm #

True Dat.

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TLB on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:34pm #

HAHA

CBS really needs Duke to win.

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BuckeyeChief on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:37pm #

I think i'm even madder about last night now that Kentucky lost.
Holy crap.

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jdm on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:48pm #

my bracket is looking awful. it all comes down to the duke v. baylor game for me.

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is it Saturday yet? on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:49pm #

I just watched my DVR'd version of last years Rose Bowl and I'm feeling much better.......now.

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is it Saturday yet? on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:50pm #

I had WV and tOSU in the championship game.

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BuckeyeChief on 27 Mar 2010 - 10:56pm #

I had WVU winning it all...I second the Rose Bowl motion.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 28 Mar 2010 - 12:21am #

...needed him to rebound--being on the bench cost us in rebounding and second chance points.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 28 Mar 2010 - 12:24am #

quit whining. ... the refs called it pretty fair both ways and the game was decided by OSU missing so many FT's..... count 'em up. We make most of those misses and we win! Refs had nothing to do with it and they dont shoot the FT's.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 28 Mar 2010 - 12:26am #

Wait, over on Bucknuts it says that Jim Tressel had sloppy seconds on all of Tiger Wood's ladies........ must be true if someone posted it on Bucknuts, right??

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BuckeyeChris on 28 Mar 2010 - 10:42am #

+1

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RBuck on 28 Mar 2010 - 1:46pm #
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jaxstor on 28 Mar 2010 - 2:04pm #

really..Matt...he has only...6-7 players to chose from...who do you put in? And really moron...no one else wanted to win? Only you. You sound like an absolute loser and idiot. I would love to see your butt out there trying to win...this was a team picked 3-4th in the B10 and they exceeded expectations. Thad Matta did a great job coachiong with the deck he was dealt. But you are an ass. Period.

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jaxstor on 28 Mar 2010 - 2:06pm #

another ass

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jaxstor on 28 Mar 2010 - 2:08pm #

good post Todd...

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jaxstor on 28 Mar 2010 - 2:09pm #

Matt is an ass.

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jaxstor on 28 Mar 2010 - 2:10pm #

so now you talk about big men who left early...earlier you where slamming coach....and why would you be upset if ET stayed? Who the hell are you?

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A Bag of Doritos on 28 Mar 2010 - 3:07pm #

i missed your dour exclamations after diebs had decent games in rounds 1 & 2. the guy averaged nearly 14 a game for the season. he is not an NBA player but he is not out of his league where he is either.

you pretty clearly have an axe to grind for some reason and you like like an ass.

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Bish on 28 Mar 2010 - 3:08pm #

That's sad to hear about Freeman, I lived next to him at the OC for a few years and he's a great guy. Glad to hear that Tress is letting him come back and be on the staff though.

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A Bag of Doritos on 28 Mar 2010 - 3:10pm #

SBB, that is clearly an insane statement. some players never have bad games. i mean look at Jordan, arguably the greatest player of all time, he NEVER had a shitty game.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c...

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TLB on 28 Mar 2010 - 3:28pm #

Could be just me, but Verne sounds a little more excited when Tennessee scores than when Sparty scores.

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jdm on 28 Mar 2010 - 3:51pm #

the refs are pretty fuckin terrible in this game. very one sided in favor of tennessee. christ, can this tournament be any more ruined by these jackasses?

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JakeBuckeye on 28 Mar 2010 - 4:26pm #

Let's cheer up... It's been 2,317 days...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

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TLB on 28 Mar 2010 - 4:42pm #

LOL........Verne gets so excited for a Vols 3 pointer and says nothing for a Sparty 3

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TLB on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:37pm #

State played much better than predicted. Congrats to them.

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jdm on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:41pm #

even without lucas....a great bball team.

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jdm on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:42pm #

smile seth davis, you're wrong again, douche.

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TLB on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:45pm #

+1 LOL

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jdm on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:46pm #

(his pick of tennessee)

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TLB on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:47pm #

Be sure to tune in to the 4letter tonight to hear Vitale ramble on and on about reseeding the final 4 teams. Should Duke get there, which I really hope they do not, he would like them to have the easiest road possible.

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TLB on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:47pm #

He is almost never right.

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jdm on 28 Mar 2010 - 5:50pm #

he's crowd surfing with duke fans as i type.

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FAL on 28 Mar 2010 - 8:03pm #

O SO TURNER DOES NOT DRIVE HE JUST SCORES 31 POINTS ON THREE POINT SHOTS?

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BuckeyeChief on 28 Mar 2010 - 9:17pm #

Not against Tenn he didn't. He played a helluva game, didn't need to drice, his shot was falling. Nobody else's shot was.

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buckeye in athens on 28 Mar 2010 - 11:53pm #

OK my bad, my bad... I didn't register for a bucknuts free account, so I couldn't click the thread to see how stupid it actually was. I have never appreciated the sanity of 11W comments more than after seeing what a fail that bucknuts one was.

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German Buckeye on 29 Mar 2010 - 7:46am #

Ummmm, Matt was the only only one splewing racisct comments from what I can see from above...

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Buckeye Scottie on 29 Mar 2010 - 2:13pm #

I had some insider knowledge on the training staff that Simmons did have some vision problems, like near blindness. Had surgery (was pretty serious) in Dec/Jan and was just getting back to playing as late. It was all hush/hush, but was the reason why he just inexplicably didn't play half the year.

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Buckeye Scottie on 29 Mar 2010 - 2:20pm #

It was clear that Pearl and UT made a very conscious effort to NOT let Diebs beat them. They NEVER helped off of him and had a guy in his jock the entire game. It was basically 4 on 4, cause they smothered Diebs.

As someone noted above, it was just a bad matchup for OSU. Tenn is very long and athletic across their entire starting 5, and they played physical and set the tone.

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