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"Face adversity promptly, without flinching and you will reduce its impact. Never run from anything and never, ever quit." - Winston Churchill
ESPN's coverage of the University of Southern California v. The Ohio State University begins at 8 PM. Your announcers are Brent Musburger, Kirk Herbstreit, and Lisa Salters.
Cognizant of the impending old media comeback, we're trying something new and integrating our Twitter streams into the open thread. Hopefully this will work, but please don't let our technical ineptitude prevent you from offering up your own two cents in the open thread below. Also, don't forget to predict the game's outcome and have a shot at a Riddell authentic Ohio State helmet.
Remember too the words of Moliere, "the greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it."
May the best team win.
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It's Saturday. Me Happy.
Woke up at six. Can't fall back asleep. Too excited for the game. This will be a long day.
Got a nice little saturday planned. Home Depot, a little bed bath and beyond. Unfortunatelay I woke up at 7 with anticipation and I will do nothing until game time.
I wonder if instead of the elevenwarriors twitter stream you could post a stream of a twitter search using a hashtag like #11W or #elevenwarriors, or something like that. That way, the widget would show all tweets by people using that hashtag (namely, people who follow this blog and use twitter) instead of only the tweets of elevenwarriors and the people it follows. Just a thought, and I don't know if it's even possible.
did anyone notice that Toledo scored 50????? just asking... not looking ahead or anything.
Just read where Jack Tatum is honorary captain. They had him on the NFL network last month showing his monster hits. My favorite was in the Super Bowl when he knocked the helment off a Viking. Hope he gives a pre-game speech to the Bucks.
Cannot sleep wonder why... I do not seem to be alone...
Hope that's the start of a great weekend for Ohio football!
Slept in a little, fully rested, ready to whoop some ace, if ya know what Im sayin dude.
this just in-barkley took gibson's mother out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again. thaddeus has been informed.
OT, but I watched Glenville crush one of Dayton's best teams last night. I've been watching HS football for nearly 20 years and I have never seen a team as athletic as the Tarblooders.
OSU offer Christian Bryant is a football player, plays safety and QB. Not sure where he'll end up if he chooses OSU (oh please,oh please). Latwan Anderson who also supposedly holds an OSU offer, will be one of the fastest Buckeyes his first day on campus. Junior LB Andre Sturdivant is big, fast and physical. I could not imagine him not garnering an OSU offer eventually.
Wayne's Braxton Miller was virtually ineffective vs. the Tarblooder defense. 9 of 11 for 130 yards 1 td, he also rushed for 2 scores. But, he is Wayne's ENTIRE offense, and it wasn't his fault for having ZERO time to throw. Don't get it twisted, Miller is the real deal. Hopefully, he will accept and be the heir apparent to LIC's kingdom, and I couldn't be happier about that.
I really like the traditional open threads/live blogs better
I'll change my prediction...30-24 Buckeyes
GO BUCKS!!
The reason why we love sports is because of the unexpected. Think Penguins over Red Wings in the Joe in a Game 7. The Giants standing toe to toe with the Pats in the SB. Mario Chalmers hitting a last second three to send the NC game into OT. We've beaten much, much better teams before (i.e. Miami).
ah, you drank the kool aid too?
LOL!
Its gonna be a long ass day. I cant decide if I should watch Wisky/Fresno or UNC/UConn. Im actually thinking the big east game
that shit is tasty. why not?
'Sweet Glasses Mark May'
and
'Charlie ate my other sign'
funny stuff
I sort of hate Pete Carroll.
No, I've gone f*ckin nuts and hate Pete Carroll and his girlfriend, espn.
i personally liked "please win" and "helen keller is lou holtz's translator"
because it's laced with cyanide
If the beating the Trojans gave us in LA last year wasn't enough motivation for the bucks to come out swinging, surely being a 7 PT HOME UNDERDOG should motivate the guys! If they come out flat and get worked again... God save our ears from all the shit we will hear!! I'm so sick of the shit that's been said about our program!! It's put up or shut up Buckeyes... Nothing short of your ultimate effort will result in success!! This victory is for buckeye nation! Let's do it gentlemen!
Well guysth I don't quite understhtand the Hellen Keller thing.. But I do know one thing? If you guysth haven't stheen my Ohio State pep-talk yet, you can find it on YouTube! The hour is upon usth! Go bucksth!!
it's all LiC, boys. he starts his Heisman campaign a year early, the Bucks get an early lead, Petey needs a frosh to throw and that results in 3 picks. Bucks roll 31-10, LiC rushes for over 100 yards and in the postgame Mark May still says the Buckeyes aren't that good while Lou Holtz drowns in his own saliva.
i give 10:1 odds that there was a massive bukkake on petey after the lean on me prank.
Take the handcuffs off the team Tressel. Let the boys play!
21-20 Buckeyes. We have a TP late drive to win the game The Toledo Torpedo Sanzenbacher gets the game winner, and pick Barkley as they try to get in field goal range. It is OUR TIME!!!
I want a blowout. Why does no one talk about how long it took USC to score on SJSU?
wel shit, lets talk about it. tonight I think their first score may be in the fifth quarter!
EXACTLY!!!! Wait, does this mean you think they'll win 3-0 in overtime. That would be interesting..... What would the media say about that?
I didn't think I could hate a college football player more than Tim Tebow and then I met Matt Barkley (figuratively). He is quite the tool and I hate how ESPN is casting him as the next "John Elway" - the kid (yes, he turned 19 on Tuesday) has played one collegiate game (at home too)! I know he has talent around him, but last year, LiC was always picked apart for being "young and inexperienced." Why isn't Barkley?
Welcome home!
hell no. It means their first score will be banging a song girl on the plane ride home!
Got up at 0530, picked out my 3 kid's jersey's for the game and hoping Brutus will shove a Buckeye up Mark May's ass!
God, you are so right! I think they (the entire College Game Day crew - especially Herbie) all want to have Pete Carroll's baby. It's disgusting, and the next time Herbie meets up with anyone of the team, I hope they clock him.
Because he's a cocky douchebag. Also, because Mandel talked about his "golden locks".
Seeing the Herbie boy stabbing Lee Corso might have been my favorite thing ever.
Among other things, Barkley was asked by a reporter on the field what he had learned about himself as a quarterback.
"That this is fun. This is easy. This is what I was made to do," Barkley said.
I asked Barkley if there was anything that was difficult.
"The run up the tunnel at halftime," he said. "That was brutal."
I think that deserves a BOOM!
Corso seems very douche like today, but at least he picked the Trojans.
Corso+ pick+ headwear= EPIC FAIL
if this is any indication, as an OSU grad, I took my ex-girlfriend home lastnight, her USC-grad (now ex-bf) was none too pleased...
I think its a good omen
Thanks for taking one for the team. Well done.
Because LiC plays at tOSU
42-24 OSU.....GO BUCKS!!!
The b10 has officially sunk to mediocraty.
I am no longer even slightly impressed with scUM's win over W.Mich now that Indy is putting a whipping on them.
Wisconsin needs to fire Bielema, great talent but it seems the coaches have no idea how to use it.
Illinois was crushed last week by a rebuilding Mizzou and Ill was supposed to be one of our better teams this year.
Minnesota barely avoided losing to a team with a former point guard at QB.
On the flip side however, look out for Sparty, I think Nichol may be one of the best QB's they've ever had.
The Bucks really need to take care of business tonight, if not big changes are coming.
Good Deal. Welcome back to the states brother. You back for good?
I think scUM looked really good last week. I think they're better than people think. It'll put the B10 closer to what people perceive it should be with OSU and those guys as the big 2, and everyone else hanging on. PSU may be making a case to be at the big boys table, and MSU is growing daily.
Might not be as bad as we think
turn your tv on, MSU is struggling
Struggling doesn't mean that they're not growing. They're clearly getting better every year
Still stand by this despite the loss just now.
another MAC loss for the B11
At least C Mich earned the win
Wisconsin earned theirs. Nice pick by that one guy in the 2OT.
Yeah but it was against CU, Dan Hawkins, and the worst BCS school run defense I have seen in my entire life.
anything to score right?
Colorado get killed by Toledo
Okie State getting beat up by Houston
Texas losing to Wyoming
Oklahoma loses to BYU
Yet there will be no discussion about the Big 12 being overrated. But if this had been the Big 10 there would be never ending discussion about how terrible the conference is.
I know he's just the punter, but if the rest of the team has the mindset of Thoma, we're in good shape. Some of his recent tweets:
"Anyone who has helped me get here today, thank you. I love my family. I love my friends. I love Ohio State. Lets do this."
"When that time comes, you simply have to do it."
"There comes a time when you have to put your foot down, step up, and take a stand for something you believe in."
Dan Lefevour is a 3rd round draft pick at worst. CMU is a good squad, MSU is still improving despite the loss.
I really am starting to think SC's bark is far worse than their bite. Mark Sanchez was a great QB who stood in the pocket and made accurate throws.
Tonight is when USC finds out how much they miss him. LETS GO!!
I agree. We also need to step up and realize that we're fucking THE Ohio State University. We're not Sisters of the Poor U or one of the shitty Pac-10 teams that USC feasts on. Time to make putting on the S&G mean something again.
Our worst enemy right now is doubt. The second that doubt creeps into our heads, we're done. There should be no doubt in our minds of what we need to do, and how we are going to do it. We have to play OUR game and not USC's.
And, unlike in years past, I think we do have leaders on both sides of the ball who'll say "enough is enough!" We have guys who will get in other guys' faces and not just walk back to the huddle and calmy adjust their helmet and gloves (looking at you JT).
USC-21 OSU-17
My son and i are big ohio state fans, but i'm very realistic.
GO BUCKS PROVE ME AND THE COUNTRY WRONG
Anyone else feeling nauseous?
Sorry, meant JL.
Feel like I'm going to puke. The last time I felt like this was '06 M*ch*g*n.
Im pacing the floor, feel like someone slipped me some speed. Cant sit still.
I hear ya man....I've been trying to stay off of the interwebs and so forth all day, but had to check in one last time before I head to meet the boys @ the bar. Good God, I've got butteflies like I did when I was ACTUALLY PLAYING!!!
May we all be celebrating by midnight buckeye faithful. Enjoy the game everyone!
~Ski
Charlie Weis is so, so fired.
And even though I only saw the last 2/3rds of the last qtr, it's still clear that the Wolverines are a pretty "meh" team.
back for awhile.
VERY "meh"
Calista Forcier "never gets nervous". I can't wait until Gibson is making this kid eat field turf.
There are alot of "meh" teams this year, OkSt just lost to Houston. All the more reason a win tonight could be a one way ticket to Miami. (well, really round trip, but you know what i mean
"Limits, much like fears, are often just an illusion." - Michael Jordan, during his Hall of Fame induction speech last night
GO BUCKS!!!
O H
LiC is fired up
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
well, if Buckeyes dont score a TD on this drive...this might get ugly
What a hit!
u can't throw to offensive lineman! oh, that's sanzenbacher.
Boren had a great block on that run.
Those of you who questioned Boom's toughness: eat it.
jim cordle = awfulness...just got blown up on the xtra point
man that taylor mays is good in coverage :-o
Its time for our offense to stay on the field for a while.
Failure to gain a first down lets them score with 55 seconds left. AAAAAHG! Also should have had a touchdown with 3rd and goal. I hate to say these things but it's all I can think about. Those are the woulda coulda shouldas we'll be hearing about tomorrow. If we lose, which we won't. So why even bring it up?
3:54n in Germany and very happy...Tressel angry at half...we win!
that's 3:54am....
These guys are human. They really are. We might win this thing.
I'll take that.
Thadius Maximus!
Hope you guys can find a way to hang and and pull this off. We are rooting hard for you over at UCLA.
I have been traumatized by USC since the 1975 Rose Bowl, which OSU lost 18-17. If we win tonight, there will be no one happier in the State of Florida than me.
read option. wildcat. anything?
Holy cow... U$C looks human.... Don't F up now!
We're done.
We have horrible coaching, flat out !!
Our offense lost that game. Couldn't be happier with our "D". Can't expect our "D" to play lights out against USC for the whole game. All that great field position and our offense could only get a lousy 13 points. Pryor needs to run more too.
Vanilla offense. Pryor has a long way to go. Yadda yadda, we can still win the b10, football is a stupid sport.
I think it was pittiful watching our team get robbed by Bohlman and Tressel. Give the boys a chance by calling more than one play, pushing when momentum is swinging our way, and calling unpredictable 1st down plays. But what the hell do I know just my .02
Coaching lost that game....again.
The defense played as good as it could have, but USC has McKnight, who is flat out awesome. I actually thought Tressel called a good game offensively; the offense just can't execute. And btw, I'm not convinced Pryor has what it takes to be great. Yea, he's ridiculously talented, but he makes some absolutely awful decisions. He's just not that smart.
Agreed. How is it that we have all the fall starts and delay of games at home, but the freshman quarterback on the road in front of 105k has no problem? Why does USC go for it on every 4th down and have such success?
As a big ten fan i ask this as a serious question to everyone on the boards. How many games like this does Jim tressel have before they start calling for his head? Best wishes and the Defense on your team is excellent.
I hate to say it, but if Boeckman was still around to QB that game we probably would've won.
Reality is this is a young team and a GOOD team. We can still win out and go to a BCS bowl, this season is NOT over. Anything can happen. Believe.
Our "D" shouldn't have mattered. We had opportunities to score. Tressel lost this game. Bad coaching decisions. Bad play calling. All we had to do is score. The fact we gave up another score shouldn't have mattered. It's not Bolman's fault. It's not the O-line or the D-line. It's the offense. We had several chances to score and put this game away and just didn't. Once again, Tressel's conservative style has cost us a game. I feel I've always been the most realistic, yet optimistic fan, and will defend the Bucks till I'm blue in the face, but either Tress needs to change his style or he should be replaced. It's clear that his style just isn't contemporary enough to compete with the college football we know today. I'm thoroughly disgusted.
LiC cost us this game BY HIMSELF
Tressel lost this game.
Not the players.
The blame is TOTALLY on him.
4th and goal in the 1st half and settle for a field goal. Pete Carrol would go for that every day of the week.
You have one of the best kickers in the country who can kick a mile and you punt it away to give USC one last drive to win it. If Pete had Petrey...he would've put him out there to ice the game.
Tressel plays to not lose.
I could see this ending coming when it was 15-10 with 10 minutes ago. You could just feel it.
Unbelievable.
Fuck that Pryor fucked up left and right, short arming and he cost us.
The most glaring issue seems to be Pryor's mechanics. He just did not seem comfortable. He constantly hurried his throws when he did not need to. Plus he threw that horrible pick. When the QB plays bad it kinda closes the playbook. He is still only a sophomore so am not gonna throw him under the bus. Lets see how they rebound.
Their 4th downs were 4th and inches and with their O-line, which is fantastic, any QB could have fallen forward for those yards.
I threw out 2 jerseys my necklace a towel and Archie and Eddie bobbleheads. Time to start buying new shit. I won't be suprised if we lose to Penn State and Michigan this year. This sucks.
I am stunned.
We HAD that game, but no. It worked perfect for USC to attack in the final minutes and escape with a win. Therefore, we can't play like scared cats on offense and have the dumb penalties and conservative play calling. Tressel, make YOUR offense believe it can score!!!!
You guys are absolutely right as I have said on this thread for the last couple years Tressel is in over his head calling plays in big time college ball.
Terrell Prior is possibly the most over-hyped piece of crap QB I have ever laid eyes on.
Jim Tressel is a top tier recruiter and a shit stain game coach.
The offensive line kept Prior clean the entire night and he couldn't do shit.
TP only throws to his first read - EVERY TIME
Delay of game multiple times - on Tressel as he sends the play in with about 3 seconds left in the play clock.
No quarter back sneaks at the one fucking inch line with a 240 QB.
Throws a bomb with 55 seconds left in the first half to a team that has no time outs left.
No long field goal attempt to put us up by 8 with a field goal kicker that it straight money from long range.
I am sick to my stomach with how overrated TP and JT are. I am embarrassed to call myself a fan of this piece of shit program - based completely on the incompetence of JT and his little project TP. The dude cannot pass AT ALL.
We are nothing more than an average program - AT BEST as long as this dick licking duo are here.
Hate me if you wish - but stop and think it out and you will find that I am dead on balls accurate.
It's time for the Tressell era to end. I'm sick of witnessing these games. I can't take it anymore. Fire Tressell and start a new era.
TP may be an athlete, but he is not a QB. He still shotputs the ball and he can not read coverages. He locks onto a receiver and telegraphs his throws. The last play he threw to Duron who had three sc defenders on him. horrible. i feel like a red sox fan prior to 2004.
Tressel ran the same ISO play twice on that goaline stand.
ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?!
GIVE UP THE OFFENSIVE PLAY CALLING TRESSEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone think OSU should offer the HC job to Urban or Boise State's coach?
Amazing effort defensively, poor offensive play calling yet again. I would have liked to see Bauserman get some reps? So much for saving some trick plays for the USC game. Maybe we were looking ahead to Toledo next week? LOL. Pryor looked like a chicken with his head cut off. Kid's got a lot of issues. I have buried my number 2 jersey for the season, cant believe this.
THANKS TO ALL THE FANS FOR SHOWING UP!!! That stadium was rocking like I've never seen before.
I am not really as depressed as I thought I'd be but I think we are all numb to this type of offensive failure the past few years. I guess there isn't much to else to say other than...WOW.
C-O-A-C-H-I-N-G
I have a head ache, now I'm goin' to bed.
Laugh at "Calista" all you want - when the game was on the line, he led his team to victory. So did Matt Barkley, on the road, in front of a record crowd of very loud folks. Illegal procedure and intentional grounding on the final drive? Really TP? Good thing he's so big and strong - he's a mess upstairs. Your QB and insanely conservative coach lost this game. Too bad, the defense played really well...
i heard bronco mendenhall is a good coach
Except for ESPN and all other baseball fans didn't totally hate on the Red Sox every chance they got for their shortcomings. I would have traded places with them any day.
Chris Peterson for the Head Coaching job at OSU!!!!!
I am naseous
I thought his name was Taint
Is Tressel blind? Can he not see that he doesn't need to be play calling anymore?
Hey Tressel........PLAY TO WIN THE GAME DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!
You disagree??? TP was outplayed on the national stage by two true freshmen. He looked completely lost in the offense, made some awful decisions. Not really talking shit...
Actually, I think Brian Kelly would be awesome in Columbus.
Jim & Terrrel,
This game hangs on Tressel & TP’s shoulders. Simply WE SHOULD HAVE WON!!!!!
First of all Terrell STOP STARING DOWN RCVRS AND FORCING THE ISSUE. DAMN IT there is a reason why you work on your foot work. It broke down in critical situations!!!! In addition, READ THE F_ING D-Fense!!! IT'S FORMATION ARE TELLING YOU WHERE THE WEAKNESSES ARE. D Carter was OPEN in the flat. The f-ing slot was open. By the way, are you allowed to audible?????
Tressel, I love you… But this loss goes squarely on you shoulders and YOUR inability to adapt with F-InG diverse attack WHEN UP 5 PTS. IT IS WILD YOU GET AGRESSIVE AT THE MOST INOPPORTUUNE TIMES, AND GET CONSERVATIVE WHEN WE NEED AGGRESSIVENES. OH BY THE WAY,,,,THE F_ING SLOT WAS F_ING OPEN ON FIRST DOWN IN CERTAIN FORMATIONS ALL F_ING NIGHT!!! WHO WAS IN THE BOOTH, DID THEY F-ING TALK TO YOU?????
We should have won… To all those who play USC, hit Bartlett, he is a pussy. Hit him often and you will win. Despite the praise of Musberger, McNight was more instrumental in that last drive than Bartlett. To his opponents, hit him early and hit him often.
Yep, I told my son the game was over when USC got its first 1st down on that last drive. I was also telling him we NEED a TD there when we were driving in the mid 4th quarter. It makes me sick that I was right, I wanted him to be able to laugh at me as the cynical old man.....
96-yard scoring drive.
USC couldn't move the ball all night!
It couldn't have been scripted any better for OSU.
Lead almost the entire game and then choke it all away.
Now OSU doesn't get blown out.........they just lose in heartbreaking fashion.
Even if OSU beats PSU.......there will be no remorse from the haters.
It is going to take years to recover from this embarrasment. I don't care if OSU beats someone in a bowl game this year.
I agree 100%. And I was serious about being glad michigan is back to respectable. The big ten needs them to be because the bucks aren't holding up there end lately.
USC was awful. AWFUL. and we still lost. Cooper is back and his name is Jim.
Tough game for you guys tonight. I really thought you had this thing and thought you outplayed USC for a good chunk of the ballgame.
That sack they had on Pryor before their last drive was huge. You get another FG out of that series and it's pretty much a done deal.
I'd be hesitant to place all the blame on Tressell. Remember, this guy got you a National Championship back in the '02 season. The guy can flat-out coach. In the end, it comes down to execution and USC found a way to do that when it counted.
Trust me when I tell you this: I hate losing to those Trojan SCumbags just as much as you guys do.
I don't know about years to recover from this USC loss...however, we still haven't recovered from the Florida loss in 2007.
The fact remains JT has not beaten a team with both the physical talent and a decent coaching staff in several years now. You'd think by now JT would have gotten the message long ago that 4th downs don't always mean it's FG time, not against the elite teams. It's also appearing doubtful TP will ever be a Pro QB maybe a great WR but to get beat by an opposing freshman QB at home while your D is playing their heart out. He did not look at all like the typical highly recruited 2nd year QB, hope he can prove me wrong but I don't ever see him playing pro ball at QB, heads just not there.
It is going to take more than just one victory of an OOC opponent to regain credibility with the nation.
OSU will need to win at least 4 high profile games to get back to their pre-Florida thumping status.
Years indeed. This will be a long process earning some respect outside of Ohio. Like winning five or six games in a row against top 5 oppenents. I don't see that happening as long as Tress is at the helm and TP is lining up behind center.
Exactly.
I disagree. As much as I want to kill someone right now, we are earning respect back. I truly believe that.
No, JHC isn't back because we would've blown out Navy
haha, fair enough.
Nope, he'll be a Brandon Marshall head case diva WR
Yes but this is a different kind of choke.
This wasn't the 41-14 choke.
This was a last minute 96-yard scoring drive by a freshman QB. TRUE FRESHMAN! AT THE HORSESHOE!
That is almost as embarrassing.
This is WORSE than the Texas game
F a Moral victory. A Moral Victory is running a Half Marathon on 2 weeks of training after Pneumonia and a Vasectomy and finishing. Our D played great, Our O line played great. TP ???? WTF???
You guys GOTTA calm down. This team stays in tact for nearly 2 more years. Our day WILL come, DON'T LOSE FAITH! We don't recruit top 10 classes for nothing, just get some sleep and think things over.
far worse. Texas was good. 'SC was not. 'SC is going to get rocked by Cal.
oh well, we are stuck with this. you can't fire a guy who has won at least a share of 4 straight conference titles. we are stuck with JHC pt. II.
if we lose to calista and co this november, there is no way the JHC comparisons can't become overwhelming.
The O-line was outstanding! The best I have seen in years.
Like I said...the team played with every last fiber of their being tonight.
Tressel lost it for them.
And i hate saying that because I like Tressel. He is a wonderful guy and a great coach. I just can't understand his philosphy on the game sometimes.
Don't lose faith? Are you serious? I have Faith in Our D, our line loked great, even in the Senator, but Pryor? If he couldn't get it done tonight, it ain't gonna happen with him as the QB.
Craig Krenzel > Terrelle "Richard" Pryor
He did nothing but hand off and throw a twenty plus yard flare pass to RB in that last drive, To Tressel, you have to call plays that continually set up your team take advantage of match ups, you call plays with out an overall match up scheme.
Even Herm Edwards knows that!
I gained faith tonight in the Offensive line.
I gained faith tonight in the Defense as a whole.
I lost faith tonight in Tressel and his insistence on calling plays.
My heart hurts.....I may have broken knuckels.....I'm going to vomit now, and it has NOTHING to do with what I drank tonight
Calm the fuck down. Barkley may be a frosh, but rememer TP is just a sophmore, like iball said our day will come and we'll be the ones on top. In the mean time fuck michigan!!!
Yes most of this is on TP. He has a long way to go but where was Troy in his second year? Not there either. He has time cause he will be around for 4 years or if not we would have finally won a big game somewhere along the line. It is not time to give up yet..
Cheif,
Pryor is a fuckin' SOPHMORE! Krenzel couldn't hold Pryors' jock as a SOPHMORE. OSU football is bigger than me, you or any of us d-bags commenting on this site. Pryor WILL get better, and he WILL win someday, maybe this year. If not, the next guy will get it done. Eat some Taco Bell and sober up, the sun will rise tomorrow.
Craig would've pulled out that "W"
It is on TP, but he is stll learning. Our D ran out of gas because our O could not sustain a drive. This seaon is not over.
I am pissed because we should have WON!!!
Ski,
You are too good of a Buckeye fan to do that. This is historical shit, enjoy the ride, because when we do get our big win, and I do mean WHEN, it will be all the sweeter. GO BUCKS!
To lose to a True Freshman in his second college game at the Horseshoe is utterly demoralizing. Especially with the way the team played tonight.
What is it with OSU's defense and their complete breakdown when faced with a potential game-winning drive?
ALL TIME HEARTBREAKER.
Our D ran out of gas because our O could not sustain a drive. This seaon is not over.
Only 2 beers. (LOL). But I am going to need a bunch of new stuff because I threw out a bunch of crap. My point isn't being impressed with SC at all, but the fact the Pryor looked LOST. Did you catch him trying to call a timeout?
The thing is, Pryor is way more talented than Krenzel, but Krenzel was a leader, a manager, and was smart.
BTW Tressel looks ready to cry on ESPN News.
Well at least we have something to look forward to.....USC will lose to Washington State or some other whole-in-the-wall school and knock themselves out of National Title contention.
ok trying one more time to post here. maybe third time will be the charm. I have said Tress is the problem for the last 3+ years only to be reminded of 2002...It is time to fast foward to the present. His play calling sucked ass tonight. We needed to take a lead into the half but Tress wanted to "aggresive". I don't know what the hell was going on thin the second half except we kept going back to the well of unproductive plays. TP...what the fuck..feeling pressure that wasn't there...short arming easy passes...tracking on his #1 rcvr...we had sanz open for an easy td in the 3rd but he couldn't see past his #1 recvr...UGH..time to drown myself in some(more) beer.
We could see them again. Very real possibilty.
I am not even getting taunting text messages or phone calls
Guys.
It's gonna be okay.
We played with fire, passion and pride. The likes of which I haven't seen in years from this squad.
We're gonna be just fine and dandy, guys.
Go Bucks.
and we will lose by 3 TDs. USC sucked tonight. USC will be good by the end of the season and JT's bullshit will be blown up...again.
I wonder if Tatum punched anyone in the locker room? Anyone see Mike Doss there?
they are replacing me with someone who doesn't kick a FG from the 1/2 yard line?
It wasn't the Offense's fault.
It was Tressel and his lack of guts in crucial situations. 4th and one near the goal line and you kick a field goal!?!?! This wasn't Kent State here Tressel. This was USC. You can't expect to survive the game with a 3-point lead.
And to run the same play twice on that goal line stand is a complete embarrasment...especially when the first one didn't go anywhere.
Tressel isn't going to cry. This is a football game. How do you know Pryor won't be a leader, talented, smart? Was Krenzel in his second year? Ease up, the Bucks will rise again.
It's sad that when we go into the fourth quarter with a lead i still have absolutely no doubt we will lose. The defense plays their hearts out but the offense can't get a first down or mix things up when necessary. We dominated early but USC adjusted to us and we did nothing to adjust to them. Look out for Michigan this year. They have quite the blueprint on how to beat OSU.
It's hard to think how things get any worse, but I think this is the year they get us. I don't see TP making any progress and again the D can only do so much when they are on the field the whole game.
Thank you Sam. This is a young exciting team. B rolle is a FOOTBALL player. Pryor is gonna be special. I know he will take home the Heisman one day.
Ditto
The game will be at the Rose Bowl (USC home game).
42-7 Trojans.
Krenzel would have willed us down the field to pull the W ut ...he woukdn't have short armed easy passes or paniced under nonexistant pressure.
We all need to stop handing Tressel the "He won a National Title in 2002" crutch.
Just because he won a national title doesn't mean he is invincible and should never be questioned.
Our O-Line played well. Our D-Line was unblockable. Our Special teams played a ton better than SC. We lost this game because our coaching staff lacks a killer instinct. Kicking a FG on the 1. Punting on the 36 instead of kicking a FG to give us a 8 point lead.
I'm tired of seeing a coaching staff that lacks aggression. How can we ask our young kids to play with aggression when our coaching staff lacks it?
CRUSHING.
I don't, he has the fire, but man he makes a lot of mental errors, ya know? You have gotta be the most optimistic guy ever. Seriously, before my next run, I want a pep talk. We'll be alright, but we need to get our swagger back. Tonight was a good start, and we need a (2004 Alamo Bowl) like post season. Our D should handle the B10 and all, but mentally, these guys need a Bowl win bad.
Do you think Beanie would have made a difference? I sure as hell do.
These are trying days for Buckeye fans. Its time to dig deep and ask what kind of fan you are. Do you want to win the battle, or the war? Do you want to lose faith when the program needs it most?
I myself will take this as a lesson of faith, for only our belief as fans can power this team to the promised land.
Is it just me or is Tressel turning into Llllloyd Carr #2? Come in and win a national championship early in your career, then kind of ride that while the game passes you by? Only difference right now is that Tressel hasn't started losing to M*ichigan, but I would put that more on M*chigan being down than anything Tressel has done. I love Tressel for the kind of guy that he is, but he is never going to take us to the next level.
Tress won that NC with Coop's players.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/f...
Im not saying Tress won't be watched form here out. But, we have to think whats best for the program right now. Do we want to change staff or coaching all together? I think coaching staff positions need to be seriously evaluated, including who is calling the plays offensively.
Honestly, (and read my thoughts on moral victories above), we do have a young team. It's all on Pryor and his improvement. If he does stop making mistakes, and the rest of the team makes strides, watch out next year. IF.
The fans can power the team to the promised land but you can't sit there and not question the coaching of this team.
I second Grady Jackson...how can you ask the team to be aggressive when the coaching isn't?
Questions should be asked
Taking the 3 was probably the righth call. Not running down the clock to take a lead into the half was just stupid. even more STUPID was going back to the same unproductive plays time and time again. We wern't out coach we just had PISS POOR coaching AGAIN.
Bruinfan, seriously, thanks. I for one really, REALLY needed to hear a friendly voice from outside the Buckeye bubble...we might start eating our young over this one.
Congrats to Bruins on the win over an SEC team, BTW.
Agreed...
this really wasn't supposed to be OSU's year.
But this loss is painful.
And next year Miami rolls into town and they are stacked as well.
It is never going to get any easier on OSU. We can't just sit around and wait for the planets to align. We can't keep saying "Next year is our year"
At somepoint you gotta say "THIS IS THE YEAR!"
You know guys the last big game we won was against michigan in 2006. To be honest, I wouldn't have it any other way. But that was truly the last biggest game we won and it we before the Florida debacle. That game was hands down amazing!
Even though we came up short tonight, I am proud of how the defense, special teams, AND o-line played. The crowd was absolutely amazing. That is the kind of environment OSU needs to be when a team like USC comes to town.
WE WILL bounce back at some point and win the big game whether its with a new coach, coordinators or whatever.
YES!!! Someone please pull that crutch and start a fire under Tess' ass.
if any fan does not realize tressel is a divisonII coach then you are a idiot. This was completely a coaching clinid. We dominated a game we score 15 in a game we should have won easily. If you think for a second with any coach other then Tressel we would of lost your a dumb ass. Fuck the option iam suck of OSU bashing we have the players just we got a bunch of YSU coaches, seriously dick tressel as a running back coach i am fucking sick to my stomach hats off to the players and a fu to the coaching staff good night!!!!!
Next year was supposed to be THE year. Miami and scUm at home, Pryor and the "Brew Crew" juniors.
No blame should be placed on Bollman or Heacock. They did their jobs tonight.
Tressel needs to give up play calling to someone else.
Fuck that. You didnt't see the same vs. Texas in the Fiesta Bowl?
With similar results?
OH MY GOD MARK MAY IS PROUD OF US!!!!
Seriously how many times are you gonna call an effing run up the middle on every single 1st down when it gets you no yardage every time? So predictable. Sick of this BS playcalling.
You are drunk as fuck, but you might have THE most valid point of the night. I hope Jason and the 11w boys read this one.
READ JBEVERIDGE's post above!!
Win the battle or the war???? We haven't won a meaningful battle in way too long and this leadership does not show signs of taking us back to the top.
The same as in mistakes?
READ JBEVERIDGE’s post above!!
And F this noise about being satisfied with a close game, or making it respectable. I was able to stomach that for the Texas game, but this game shouldn't have even been close. We left so many points on the field. Partly due to execution (a lot of which falls on Pryor), but also due to the predictable playcalling. This ain't 2002 anymore. And Boom is no Beanie. Quit trying to shove it up the middle on first down if it doesn't get you anything the first 20 times.
for scoring 1 TD in the two games we played against 'SC?
8 quarters, 1 TD.
Im telling you guys, if we lose faith in Tressel and the program, this could get FAR WORSE than it is now. Be careful what you say.
Amen.
BUT WAIT!!!!!!!!! Tressel won a national title back in 1746....lets give him a break.
BiSC,
That's about right. I thought O-line looked pretty decent, Defense looked really, really good, Tressel's play calling has totally pissed me off.
Ken
By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but the defender who gave up the first 3rd and long to McKnight on USC's last drive was none other than our boy Anderson Russell...
Obviously the loss is not all on him but this dude just has a knack for getting burned.
Ah, yes, let's just stick with the shit playcaller we have because we could get even shittier play caller. why not throw a cooper reference in there too while you at it...can we live with only beating michigan???? i think not
And sitting around letting Tressel and the coaches get away with it can have the same outcome.
If you add up OSU's total score over the last two games with USC...they still couldn't beat them.
We could tie. LMFAO.
Boy, I was really hoping to see an OSU victory over USC just once in my lifetime - which began back in '75. Three things kept that from happening:
1) Miserable clock management, i.e., letting 3 needless USC points get on the board at the end of the first half.
2) Receiving offsides and delay of game calls, which killed OSU's momentum at key times.
3) Zero creativity on first down play calling, i.e., hand it of to #1 for minimal or negative yardage.
All three of these items fall squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. It was sad to see such a fantastic defense, clearly out of gas by the end of the game, have to bail out the coaching staff from this debacle.
I disageree with taking the 3. At halftime, Tressel's excuse for slinging the ball around with 55 seconds to play is that you need points against someone like USC. WTF didn't that occur to him when we were on the door step at end of 1st qtr? Better play calling would likely have given us another 4 points, and in turn prevented USC from getting 3 points at end of half.
Oh well, I thought the defense, on balance, played really well tonight.
This should have been a romp. A freshman qb should have no chance at the horseshoe. God forbid we meet up with USC at the Rose Bowl. Pryor will be just the same and Barkley will be ready for the NFL. What makes Pryor dangerous is running. He is only a mediocre passer. Unfortunately the staff told him he would be a pro set passer and he seems to believe that himself. There were numerous times he should have taken off and he didn't.
my friend, it could not. the program has the resources and connections to make a career for anyone, whether they are interested in playing, coaching, or reporting. tressel is slightly above the baseline for the program at this point.
HAHAHA
Tressel and his playbook need to go back to YSU, and so forth...
Despite the optimistic attitude I am trying to keep, I am starting to think Tressel is best suited for high school. Yeah, he recruits, but it's not like he is the ONLY one. Cooper did arguably a BETTER job, and alot of the 2002 team were Coop's boys.
It doesn't make sense to recruit dynamic playmakers and run vanilla schemes all night.
2002 was all Cooper!
Which leads to more speculation about Tressel.
We are stagnated. Tressel cannot take us any farther without making some serious changes. calling the same failing play over and over does not win games. Hey let's try running up the middle one more time. maybe it will work THIS time...NOPE
No, honestly, I didn't. The offensive line got dominated in the second half of that Texas game. The secondary disappeared. Even Malcolm Jenkins looked average.
Tonight, every part of the team actually looked into the game for all four quarters. The entire defense came to play. The offensive line was much better than I ever thought it could be. The only person that underperformed consistently was Pryor, and even he had some of the best plays of the night.
Simmer down, man. It's all good.
Well, Id like to start off by saying "hats off" to Pete Carroll and his staff, they do a heck of a job out there.
Seriously. Everyone was saying his feet were one of the key factors (for offense). Yet he was still restricted, and most of the scramble plays designed for him were way too predictable.
And I'm sick of this BS hype about Barkley. Yes, he had 2 big passes on the final drive. But this win was squarely on the shoulders of their RB corps. Wow Barkley, you sure showed the world you could handle the pressure! Great job handing it off to the real stars of your team!
besides Maurice Clarrett
Exactly.
We've all along been fed the "Tressel ball got OSU a championship in 2002" line. Well maybe in 2002, the only thing Tressel-ball did was put OSU in position to lose a bunch of games they should have won by 10+. That has been the only year that the players have overcome the disadvantage that this coaching-style puts them in.
Also, Mike Doss, Will Smith, Craig Krenzel, Matt Wilhelm, The Player Who Shall not be Named, Mike Jenkins, Kenny Peterson, Chris Gamble, Donnie Nickey, Tim Anderson, Mike Nugent, Andy Groom, ETC should be getting the credit for that 02 title, not JT.
Thad Matta for football coach in all my years of watching football Tressel is the worst offensive minded coach i have seen. f 2002 a 55 yarder to beat Marshall and a forth and one to beat Purdue the a OT to beat a Mami team we dominated also. Tressel was at Division 1aa or II into his 50's for a reason we were competely the better team excluding coaching hats off to Pete i would love to have you here
Guys: you're seriously contemplating firing a coach with an 80+% win percentage. Get your heads checked.
I think I need to sleep on this shit. My train of thought on this subject has us eventually getting our asses handed to us by scUM. That is FAR worse than any loss to SC.
This IS the beginning of the hot seat for JT. You can deny it all you want, but listen to some of the comments here tonight. Alcohol tells no lies.
In all honesty....Tressel has next year to get something accomplished. If he can't get it done with the team he'll have coming back, then it will be time for him to step down.
Urban Meyer anyone?
You can't deny there is a problem, Im not saying JT absolutely has to go, but the time for change may be here, largely depending on the outcome of THIS season. We will see how it plays out.
There's just as much chance it could get better too. I'm beginning to think we are getting by every season on the raw talent of our athletes alone. We bring in just as many top-rated recruits as other big programs yet we fail to produce the way they do.
This should have been a romp. A freshman qb should have no chance at the horseshoe. God forbid we meet up with the at the Rose Bowl. Pryor will be just the same and Barkley will be ready for the NFL. What makes Pryor dangerous is running. He is only a mediocre passer. Unfortunately the staff told him he would be a pro set passer and he seems to believe it. It's great to have a top-tier recruit like Pryor but every game that passes I have the sickening feeling that his legacy will be nothing but a series of near misses.
Let's all take a breath. This team is very young. We need to realize we're not a top 5 team. Hell we might not be a top 10 team. The bottom line is our O did not execute. SC did nothing special. They never do, but they always execute. Tressel isn't the most dynamic play caller, this get magnified when you have a QB who can't read a D and stares down his #1 option. Shit, he made some plain terrible throws. The guy is a physical freak, but I don't think he's smart enough to be a QB. I hope he'll get there.
SC adjusted well to our running game in the 2nd qtr. Herron looked good in the 1st. After that, there was no lanes. They tried the option but TP decided to pitch it to nobody on his way down. WTF?!?! How about some QB designed runs?? How about throwing to Ballard? How about letting Saine run the ball??
For as many time as you could question Tress, there is a TP "F-up".
Its time to temper expectations for this year. We need to let this team grow and get better. Maybe a 10-2 season and a 1 way trip to the Cap 1 bowl is what we need. I don't know about all you guys, but I'm more than happy w/ a coach who'll win 10 games every year. Beat our rival more than they beat us. Win conf titles. And maybe if things fall right have a run for a national title every couple yrs.
GO BUCKS!!
Yes, JT has next year, no matter what.
2011 is NOT guaranteed. Period.
shut up
11-1, Rose bowl win = success
Pete Carroll plays to win games. Jim Tressel plays not to lose games. OSU couldn't have possibly asked for more opportunities to win that game. Advantage Carroll. Very upsetting loss.
If Tressel loses another bowl game to another top tier team and then loses to Miami next year (Especially with almost every starter returning), then he will be on a hot seat....NO DOUBT.
NO, it needs to be said. Win, win and win.
Agreed.
But that will mean USC isn't playing in the Rose Bowl.
Carrol let Barkley throw when Tress would have punted and hoped for another stop.
Exactly.
And how many of those wins were against worthy opponents?
I'm not saying there aren't problems, just that they are no where near as significant or irreparable as they're made out to be. If OSU fires Jim Tressel, it'll be the single biggest mistake any AD has ever made. It will literally kill this football program.
Keep Meyer where he is or somewhere else. That guy is douchebag. Tonight was a good game, but Pryor looked awful. I just can't believe how bad he played. There were a lot of balls thrown where he just missed the receiver, and that interception was terrible. The intentional grounding on the last drive was ridiculous, he had carter wide up down the sideline. I really really like Pryor, but more than the play calling, i feel likehe lost the game for them. How many F'ing delay of game penalties can you take, it's inexcuseable.
To hell with Jim Tressel
OSU should fire JT and hire Rich Rodriguez. Atleast he can win and make our players PRACTICE
Especially when you have all summer to prepare, thats why navy almost beat us. We were getting ready for this one.
winning 80% of your games in the big ten is not saying a whole lot. it's not like he's playing ranked opponents every week. we play indiana, purdue, northwestern and mac teams for crying out loud.
oooooooooh, burn
In case you haven't noticed, it's starting to warm up...
No habla espanol, gringo
THIS IS THE SECOND STRAIGHT INSTANT CLASSIC WHERE WE LOST. Anyone else realize that?
I don't understand why people think we should temper our expectations, I mean USC is for real. Mc Knight won that game for them in the last few minutes. The offense did falter tonight, but they road isn't that tough ahead. This team will be nasty. I saw a really good QB in the first half last week in Pryor. He'll be fine, and this team will be really good by the time conference season is in full swing. I guarrentee, not team will hold USC to 18 points the rest of this season. I'm really impressed with the defense overall. Torrence seemed to be play really well, Amos looked good at times, and the line did a good job. I'm sad about the loss, but earlier this week, many of you on this blog were predicting a huge blow out. It's a shame they couldn't finish the job, but this team is good. Let the media say what they want, we'll be back!
Was at the game tnght! The crowd did rock. It was electric.
Like others, the way the game would play out was clear to me early in the 4th. One of the joy's of any sporting event is that the endings are unpredictable. With Tresselball, that joy just doesn't exist!
Tressel's coaching is below the level of his recruits.
I don't think Tress should go, no way. But maybe some fresh ideas are in order?
It's time for a change!!!! I'm sick of the losses!!! 1-2 a year is ridiculous!!!!
Rob,
what percentage of fans that you could hear were upset with Tressel?
Against Florida, Texas, or USC...??? Really?
I agree, there needs to be some fresh ideas, and I would love to see a more dynamic offense. I feel like things will open up more as Pryor and the O-line get even more experience, but what hurts with growing pains this yere is, there is no Beanie to lean on during the rough patches. I am Super Impressed with how the defensive line handled the BEST OFFENSIVE LINE in the country though. This team is going to win a lot of games guys, and so is USC.
Tressel is in deep shit, good night.
I think we are all conflicted because it is hard not to like JT. He does things the right way and is a local boy we can be proud of. However, it is not like he is an up and coming coach. He is older and is very set in his ways. The Big Ten is down now but they will catch up and OSU's superior talent will not mean much when everybody in the league know what play is coming.
6 straight losses, how many mor are ok, Brian?
perfectly said Rob Tress can't coach elite talent. I wish Pete was our coach Tress has runind our rep. Say whatever you want every year we got people getting drafted and every year outside the big Mac sorry meant Big Ten we get ran because of coaching not talent we dominated tonight excepts play calling seriously, i hear shit about Pyror but we just hired a QB coach from a Division II program for TP, how can you be successful with our play calling and no coaching talent
it will literally kill the program? considering the program is inanimate, it will not literally kill it.
Earle and JHC both won something like 75% of their games. They got canned. Somehow the program chugged along. Even hiring a formerly obscure I-AA coach.
Woody won about 75% of his games.
that ostensibly takes us to the beginning of the modern era.
but even prior to Woody and WWII, the OSU coaches won about 70% of their games in the 20th century.
like i said above, JT is slightly above baseline. the program sells itself.
we play 2 good teams a year...and lose to one or both. go JT!
The problem is we will probably beat TSUN again this year and it is hard to fire someone who is on a win streak against them. Gee doesn't give a shit about football. He has this f-ed up idea that academics are important. as long as JT stays out of trouble with the NCAA he will not get fired.
Anderson made the tackle, but it Homan who was burned.
I've been going to the Buckeye games since 1972 and I've NEVER seen the Shoe rockin like it was tonight. A shame that the Buckeyes lost because they deserved to win...
Now let's talk some sense.
The O and D lines played better than they have in the last SEVERAL years. But most importantly the Buckeyes played with heart and intensity...something that has been missing since the National Championship team.
Let me repeat that....heart and intensity have NOT been a part of this team since the National Championship.
Tonight you saw both Heart and Intensity from a YOUNG Ohio State team - and though our guys lost what they won back tonight was their SWAGGER.
When friends who live in the heart of SEC Country (Mississippi) send a text message saying that they were rooting for Ohio State (yes in SEC Country) you know your team has its SWAG back and in my opinion the Buckeyes are the "Rocky" of college football.
So you know what that means?
2009 may not be the year but the future is BRIGHT
Ohio State Buckeyes - 2010 College Football BCS National Champions
So let it be written...So let it be done!
GO BUCKEYES
I love you, man.
If you think Pryor's getting any better you're dreaming. He just isn't a QB. He CANNOT pass the ball, you can't win ball games without a passing threat. He doesn't have the head for college ball. He's still playing his high school game. He can't keep the clock. He's afraid to take a hit, anytime a defensive player gets with in 2 yards of him, he throws the ball away. He's dancing around constantly. A real QB sets up and holds steady to make the play, even if it means getting pummeled right after the throw. And with a little pressure from the defense on the ends (like USC brought tonight) his running game is completely shut down. He'd make a great running back but he has no future as a QB. As long as Pryor's taking the snaps we'll never be a national title contender.
But in the end Tressel's to blame for the loss. He can't coach under pressure, I'm not sure he can coach at all. He always makes the wrong call. He said at halftime he wanted to play aggressively? Aggressively would have been going for that second TD in the 1st quarter. Not keeping the ball on the ground in the last minutes of the 1st half when you're up by 3, is just plain STUPID. Being conference champs in the worst conference in the nation isn't good enough. Face it, USC played horrible tonight. If they played like that against Florida or Texas they would have lost by 20 points at least.
The sad thing is, besides Pryor and Tressel, the rest of the team played great. The rest of the team had the talent to pull off the win tonight but their over-rated QB and choke of a coach lost it for them. It's about time for Tressel to go job hunting and for Pryor to realize his limitations.
Amazing the amount of JT kool-aide still being drunk out there, it's almost like one feels the pathetic fans of JT deserve his type of program where old cronyism fills a staff. JT's ship has been sinking for years now and it's almost like no one dares question his right to coach our best high-school talent. His program is a complete failure against teams of similar physical talent with a decent coaching staff. What was fine at Youngstown State is not fine with the Buckeye Nation.
Lets just hire someone that can do the job Jimmy not up to. Simple as that. Who says we have to be stuck with a play calling moron for umpteenth years?
One comment about Pryor...the best quality that he brings to the table isn't his running of passing ability, it's not his leadership in the huddle or in the locker room...the BEST thing that Pryor brings to the table is the fact that he HATES to LOSE...(a la Vince Young).
That in an of itself will be his greatest motivator for Pryor getting better, and taking the Buckeyes all the way (not this year), but during his junior season.
Obviously, Coach Tressel continues to be afflicted by 41-14. Before that he was "the best big game coach in America." He and national failures remain constants. Ohio State football, has a coaching problem, plain and simple.
I never saw the coach more unnerved than he was, tonight - especially during his uncomfortable interview, at the half.
Now, Ohio State is a regional football power, with a withering national cache. All combined, some - at least - view Tressel's national failures as a bookend equal to that of his successes. This is not unreasonable.
Nor would it be unreasonable if one of his superiors were to insist that Coach Tressel reevaluate his staff and make changes after this season. That kind of pressure might jolt him, out of his apparent coaching dysfunction.
Final Comment for the night...it's not easy winning the NC...that's what makes it the greatest off all sports championships that can be had in the USA.
And if I am in correct in the feel I am getting about the Buckeyes becoming the "Rocky" of college football...all of those blue chip recruits in the Shoe tonight who were there to witness and feel what Ohio State football is really about....will have a difficult time saying "no" to becoming a Buckeye.
2009 may not be the year but the future is BRIGHT
Ohio State Buckeyes – 2010 College Football BCS National Champions
So let it be written…So let it be done!
GO BUCKEYES
Most of the observations for better or worse are already made. I would comment that the important thing tomorrow (today, I suppose) is how the team reacts. Will they get up, or fall down?
Personally I expected us to have a handful with Navy, and I expected that we'd play a closer game against SC and lose, given the way that things with TX worked out.
I had hoped that last year's game against the Longhorns had taught Tressel that there are occasions when you have to gamble and hope for the best. I can't say that I think his decision to punt instead of kick the field goal was the wrong one, since the D had been eating souls in the second half. The corner blitz (Dantonio's calling card, incidentally) was brilliant. Torrence juked McKnight nicely on that.
I do think that people calling for Tressel's job are being somewhat irrational. The man was hired by Andy Geiger to do two things that JHC couldn't do: beat Michigan and keep the kids out of the papers. Aside from two or three well-publicized incidents, he's done both pretty admirably. As fans we expect more, but in the end I'm not convinced that Tressel thinks that winning is really the end goal here as much as it is trying to produce men from boys suitable for life outside of football.
For my part, I think that's a pretty good thing, and after the sting of the loss subsides, it's probably the best thing. I can't imagine having someone like Meyer or Carroll here. I really do like Tressel.
Even so, we should have won. Everyone else held up their end of the bargain: the defense was fantastic outside of two drives, the o-line played better than expected, the crowd sounded pretty rockin', special teams was all that and a bag of chips, and frankly, I'm pretty sure that the assistant coaches did things right this time. It's just not so awesome to think that our awesome coach and awesome quarterback weren't really so awesome tonight.
I was at the game and I tell you Ohio State has more talent then USC. Tressel flat out sucks!
We need one foot for a TD and he calls a slow developing run play. Tp Is 6'6 240 and we can't qb sneak it? WTF! We have time after time the ball in good field position and we coach scared. If sick of it Time to move on Tressel.
The only thing that can stop the offense is Jim Tressel. I'm sick of it. Our d played their ass off and all the nation will know is Ohio State loses another BIG game. Well if you were there you saw Ohio State go toe to toe with them for 4 quarters and the coaches let us down flat out. Tressel you fuckin suck.
You people are absolutely right, we played our butts off tonight! We may not have gotten that W but i saw heart and intensity.
I will ALWAYS be a Buckeye!
I look for Michigan to beat us this year too. People are satisfied with keeping Tressel around because he's been able to beat Michigan consistently. But face it folks Tressel only won the last few of years because he was playing against Lloyd Carr's failing program. And Tressel is taking Ohio State exactly where Carr took Michigan. In a couple years we'll loose our season opener to a DII team.
If you think Tressel should stay take off the fuckin blinders. How can you say he's doing his job when its clear he is not. You kick the 53 yard field goal at the end and give your team a chance to go up 8. Now we have to listen to these fuckin media cock suckers talk shit about how great Matt Barkley is what a fuckin joke. Tressel can blow me.
3 and a foot we need to sneak it game fuckin over. FIRE TRESSEL BOTTOM LINE. SEE YA!
your outta your mind...they might have lost more recruits than won them over tonight...
EVERYONE AROUND ME KNOWS TRESSEL SUCKS FLAT OUT. IF YOU THINK TRESSEL IS A GOOD COACH YOUR WRONG. WE LEFT POINTS OFF THE BOARD. WE NEED TD'S NOT FIELD GOALS. QB SNEAK FOR A FUCKIN FOOT ITS OVER GAME SET MATCH. UNREAL.
The crowd did its part. Loud all night almost every play. He won't change his coaching style so he's got to go. What a waste of a great defensive effort. Tip of the cap to the players they played hard. Damn shame we could get the same effort from the play calling.
Finally someone who saw the same game I did. Pryor was overrated last year. I've never seen any potential as a QB for Pryor. Buckeye fan's took that "#1 high school recruit" too seriously, that and listening to Kirk Herbstreit. Herbstreit's so in love with Pryor he probably runs down to the locker room at half time to blow him.
ya that beat a piece of shit notre dame team wow.
Reggie Ball part II anyone?
Even if TP could read the defense he never had any time.. they took forever and a day to get the play calls out, all night..
Aaron, if you were in Iraq (thank you for your service by the way) then you would have no idea what the atmosphere was like in the stadium. If you read my earlier comment you might have noticed that I mentioned a text message I received from deep inside SEC country from OSU haters who actually were rooting for the Buckeyes (hard to believe I know).
But I believe that on signing day, you'll see that the Buckeyes will pull out a top 5 recruiting class and yes many of those recruits were at the game last night.
You're just pissed that the Buckeyes lost and so am I, but when you are able to look beyond the initial pain you're feeling now (which is the same pain all Buckeye fans fee) you will see.
Thanks again for your service.
The previous comment listed as Anonymous was submitted by SensibleBuckeye
I don't hate you but since you are no longer a fan I hope that you will get on sites that cater to whoever you will be rooting for...
I can respect your opinion but the venom in your words is disgusting.
Sure...but Coop could not win with those same players. Weak argument that is tiring.
Have faith. Vince Young did not really break out until his junior year.
Is that the same Lloyd Carr that beat Florida convincingly?
I love Ohio HS football but we are not getting the athletes Florida, Texas, Oklahoma ad USC are getting. Their rosters are filled with guys from TX, SoCal and Florida. The bucks are filled with Ohioans, for the most part.
Cooper couldn't win a title with Cooper's players. He could beat Michigan either. Wake the fuck up!
I know you don't want to hear about 2002 but Earle nor Coop won a NC. Or beat Michigan consistently.
You have a problem then since it doesn't look like we will be switching conferences anytime soon. Go root for an SEC team.
You are high if you really think that OSU has more talent than SC.
Yea guys lets blame Tressel, you are right. It's his fault Homan got burned by McKnight on 3rd and 9 and its his fault Pryor missed Saine and another WR on the 2nd field goal drive. He gets top 10 classes and wins 10 games every year and beats Michigan every year, but lets get rid of him. You all sound either drunk or just really stupid, quit blaming coaches, its a players fucking game. My god you all overreact to this shit.
+100
Uh...yea, it is the coaches' fault when you put Homan on McKnight; that is a ridiculous mismatch all the way. Good recognition by USC and Barkley.
aaron in Iraq - ummmm aaron just in case you missed it:
According to another site...Ohio State might have come up short Saturday night on the field against USC, but the Buckeyes will not come out of the weekend empty handed. Four-star prospect Corey Brown from Pennsylvania was on hand and has decided to join the Buckeyes next season.
The 5-11, 180-pound athlete was in attendance for OSU's home game against USC...Scout.com ranks the standout from Springfield (Pa.) Cardinal O'Hara as the No. 19 wide receiver in the country and the No. 94 prospect in the country regardless of position.
(Someone que up the Rocky CD)
Will Hagerup leaves Columbus with some strong feelings for Ohio State.
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A field reporter from another site had this to say..."Great weekend for recruits. Little known fact: the elite recruits don’t care that much if the host wins or loses. They care about the facilities, the fans, the atmosphere and how they are treated. The fans, the stadium, the intangibles. There is nothing in the universe that can match an Ohio State game experience."
Tress needs to grow a pair, plain and simple. HE is the reason we lost this game, and he alone. Like Herm Edwards said (quite hilariously I might add)... YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. Not Tress, he plays not to lose the game, and then loses anyway.
Oh, and Terrell Pryor is not a college quarterback. He is doing OSU and himself a disservice by not asking to switch to WR. 2 games so far this year and both times he's been the 2nd best starting QB to play. Great athlete, not a snowball's chance in hell he's even an ok quarterback.
Yawn. The argument is tired, and the logic is horrifying bad.
The best you can do is say that Tressel should gracefully retire. Firing him would be a pretty huge mistake, unless you happen to think stiffing the recruiting class and the rather young team we're working with is a good idea. We could see defections like the Wolverines, for example.
Fortunately for most of us, you're not writing Tressel's job description.
JHC was fired because four of his players would have been academically ineligible if we'd played South Carolina on 1 January instead of 31 December. Reggie Germany managed to pull a 0.00 GPA that quarter. Coop's performance against UM didn't help him keep his job, but we did put up with it for 13 years. Tressel has single-handedly tripled the number of games won against Michigan; it's become less important to the armchair coaches that inhabit the halluco-sphere here than winning a championship every year.
Yes, Tressel most certainly put the turd in Saturday (Pryor's Bellasari imitation didn't help). Yes, Tressel was a total nancyboy for not kicking the field goal (though the D had been swallowing souls for most of the game, so I can understand it). Yes, we really could use more innovative play-calling, and a kick-ass mentality to the game is needed.
But firing him really won't accomplish much, outside of possibly alienating the team. We're talented, we have a good incoming class, and we're probably going to win a lot of games this year. We may finally have a fight from UM, and I expect to be suitably entertained when I watch them play in Happy Valley. I expected us to lose on Saturday, and I expected it to be a helluva lot more interesting than most seemed to think. Does losing suck? Yes. But it's not the same as dying, and I'm honestly pretty interested to see how the team responds. I didn't expect to contend for the MNC this year, and I'd really rather see Tressel perform his sissylala best this year than next, when we'll probably be a little more stacked.
I don't want to touch Urban with a 10 foot pole. Dude is a complete d-bag.
Agreed on Meyer. Classless d-bag. Don't wany any part of him at THEE Ohio State University.