The Big Ten principal's office just announced Kurt Coleman has been suspended and will miss this week's game at Indiana.
The suspension is the result of a helmet to helmet hit late in the Illinois contest. Your worst fears have been realized as this likely means Anderson Russell will start at safety opposite Hines. Joy.
UPDATE
(Tressel and Gene Smiths' joint response to the suspension):
Obviously, we will abide by the one-game suspension from the Big Ten Conference, but we feel as if there was poor judgment throughout.
We concur that Kurt’s hit was late and a result of poor judgment; he was thus penalized and removed from the game by his coaches. We do not agree that it was “pre-meditated” or that he was “targeting a defenseless” player.
The decision to suspend points to the Conference office’s feeling as if there was poor judgment by the game officials for their decision not to eject at the time.
In our estimation, the final “poor judgment” is in levying a one-game suspension in this particular case. We will abide by the decision, learn from it, and move forward.
Comments
I think we all saw this one coming.
I was at the game so I couldn't really see it. Did you really think it was intentional?
It was late but I think the suspension is an overreaction.
It sure looked bad.
Bone-headed play equals 15 yards, period, next play, please. This isn't soccer. (Is this soccer? This isn't soccer.)
If it wasn't helmet to helmet than it would've been just a 15 yarder. It was just one of those plays where he started, and he could've maybe avoided the situation by flying over the QB or just hitting him without the helmet to helmet contact.
However, remember that supposedly the Big Ten is cracking down this year.
Does anyone know where I can get the Ohio State shirt that only says "THE" on the front with a Buckeye Leaf on it?
Was that Illini player suspended for dragging Pryor down out of bounds and then throwing a punch on the sidelines? This is getting a bit ridiculous now.
Dude that is what I've been saying. He threw a punch at one of our sideline players.
Video Evidence here JT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... see the 3:26 mark specifically
good thing the suspension was just for Indiana though. If he's going to be gone for game I'd rather have it be this one than any others
And it could work out well. Russ moves into Coleman spot, so maybe we can Orihan Johnson take the field at either the star or in Hines spot, who then moves to the star. I'd like for Johnson to have more game experience, because A-Russ continues to be a liability out there and I think the answer is a Coleman-Hines-Johnson look in the nickel
10:40 mark?
Good for a yuk: http://www.ndnation.com/boards...
They got him because it was head to head. Probably the right call despite my homer senses telling me otherwise.
this rule is going to get re-worked. its dumb.
“No player shall initiate contact and target a defenseless opponent above the shoulders.”
so, as long as one is targeting a defenseless opponent below the shoulders, its cool? thats really the message? so, if you pulled down a player ten yards out of bounds, next to the bench, and the player fell and drilled his head at an awkward angle on the bench and suffered neck and head injuries that is or is not suspendable? or does it become suspendable only with injury? if it only becomes suspendable with injury, why doesn't the same standard apply with above the shoulder hits?
Not intentional, but too aggressive and a wee bit late. The Big Ten made the right move, and they are at least consistent with their suspensions.
that was funny
Tressel and Gene Smith issue a joint statement. EPIC:
“Obviously, we will abide by the one-game suspension from the Big Ten Conference, but we feel as if there was poor judgment throughout.
“We concur that Kurt’s hit was late and a result of poor judgment; he was thus penalized and removed from the game by his coaches. We do not agree that it was “pre-meditated” or that he was “targeting a defenseless” player.
“The decision to suspend points to the Conference office’s feeling as if there was poor judgment by the game officials for their decision not to eject at the time.
“In our estimation, the final “poor judgment” is in levying a one-game suspension in this particular case. We will abide by the decision, learn from it, and move forward.”
that is real? that was a barely veiled "you are all idiots"
Hear-Hear!
Cant really disagree with ya Jeff. BUT, if the Illini player isnt suspended too its a double standard
I guess you put 3:26 in the post! my attention span gets even worse as the day goes
Hines and Russ at safeties then Torrence and Chekwa at Corner while Amos is the Star.
Damn Tress! I like the new you
Yeah, it's the real deal. Don't see it posted on the AD website, but it came in an email with the subject "Ohio State Disappointed with Coleman Suspension".
Bravo.
My 2 cents: The hit was uncalled for but it wasn't malicious. It's not like the guy was 10 yards away from where the play was happening or anything like that. I just think Coleman got caught up in the moment. But I do understand why the Big 10 did what they did... The hit was borderline and in a case like that you gotta err on the side of caution. If you don't crack down on a hit like that then guys who really are trying to get in a cheap shot are going to know how to do it so they can get away with it.
As far as Tressel's response.... Anyone else think he's finally snapped and Evil Tressel has fully taken over? Like maybe the criticism after USC just pushed him over the deep end. Next thing you know he'll be ripping up side line markers and punching opposing players.
Found this link on OHD. Gotta get it up in Good Shizzy. Its Worthington making it rain on Juice like Pac-Man did in the stipclub!!!
http://images50.fotki.com/v157...
I dunno dude...he's just a little guy LOL
I dunno exactly know what a stipclub is, but I was so excited about the pic that I dont even care!
What a bunch of bullshit. Late hit, yes. Intentionally helmet-to-helmet? It's a rain game and there's all kinds of weird shit that happens that you can't necessarily control. This game is fast, and shit happens.
Tressel and Heacock need to retroactively give Coleman the Jack Tatum Big Hit of the Week award, which no one won.
Not sure who you are referring to that should be punished as well? The player who was on the ground and had Coleman attempt to knock his head off? For what? Not being a turtle?
Above this someone said it wasn't intentional. My butt. You can watch the video. He clearly led with his head directly at his. I'm sure the emotions just got the best of him, but the Big 10 said they were going to come down on it this year so 1 game is the deal.
Let's not try to equate Coleman's late hit with Mouton's uppercut to the ND player's chin.
No...Im referring to the scumbag player that intentionally late hit Pryor when he was 5 yards deep out of bounds and tackled him into the bench.
Then like the Zook Superstar he is, threw a punch that missed....
Weak Sauce
If you watch the video it looks like he's also shoving TP back down as he's trying to get up.
I was at the game and didn't see it. Does anyone have a link to a clip/vid of the hit???
Thanks
College Traditions on Lane next to Varsity Club should still have it... you can call and check (1-800-628-4678). Hope that helps.
Get it right...its scrip club!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...
Chad Henne chucking the rock to Teddy Ginn and Crybaby Hartline? Only in the NFL
Someone really needs to get this up on youtube.
Thanks
completely agree.
i could maybe understand if the refs hadnt flagged the play...
but why suspend the man for what last year would have just been a 15 yard penalty??
late hit..uneccessary roughness...or helmet to helmet....NOT worthy of a Senior, with no negative history, missing one of his last 13 games as a buckeyes....
Ya know, I dont know why I do it really, but I was reading the comments on eSECpn and they had some dude on there outright accuse KC of intentionally paralyzing Gentry.
He went on to say that this was another in a long line of cheap buckeye plays....
Infuriating
Damn you, after reading that I had to go over to the eSECpn boards and now I'm all riled up.
Do they have a recruiting process in which they get the absolute dumbest college football fans they can find (Buckeye fans included) and get them all to sign up for accounts so they can spout off some of the DUMBEST sh!t I've ever had the misfortune of reading on teh internets? And seriously, don't most browsers have some type of spell check built into them nowadays? The spelling over there almost made me go cross-eyed.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/...
News worthy day
Stafon Johnson dropped a weight bar on his throat while bench pressing and had to have emergency surgery......
"pre-meditated"? Really? Did the Big 10 really call it that? Somehow I doubt they really know what that means if they called it that, they just thought it made it sound more serious. Lame.
I'm not opposed to the suspension, exactly, it looked like a cheap shot to me, but puffing it up with serious-sounding words just makes them look silly.
The Conference office must be staffed by really unhappy people. I'm sure Coach Tressel and Gene Smith are very sorry for making them more unhappy with these comments. :)
Don't you mean Cryin' Hartline? Damn. Why didn't we think of this last year? Now it just sounds like sour grapes.
This is the best I could do on short notice. Pardon the quality: the source is DirecTV HR22->Slingbox->Quicktime Pro X Screen Capture. Not exactly the highest quality way to record video (and especially audio). If anyone has any suggestions how I could go about capturing it at a higher quality, I'm willing to take the time to upload a better version.
Yikes! That is messed up. I feel bad for the kid.
Thanks for the link. My first impression after finally getting to see this is it was a dumb play on Coleman's part, but this was no Reynolds-Sorgi incident. A 15-yard penalty and the coaches pulling him out of the game make sense, but the Big Ten calling out Ohio State and suspending a player is over the top. I'm with Coach Tressel and Gene Smith on this one for sure.
Jeeeez, you can definitely die from that. Ugh, just the thought of it makes me ill, I hope he's okay.
Seems like it was coming from either the NCAA, the Big Ten, or OSU. Whichever one pulled the trigger first. They should be ok without Coleman at Indiana.
Jim Delaney sucks a big bag of dicks.
are you crazy its football ladies not soccer.
funny how your talking about spelling and you think "the" is spelled "teh" ha!
Based on the response from the AD and Tressel, how can you possibly come to the conclusion that OSU was planning on suspending Coleman?
Rule 958 of the intarwebs:
Thou shall not fumble the your/you're technique whilst calling someone out for spelling.
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Obviously irony is wasted on some people....
I'm with the big ten on the suspension, but not the intent. We see personal fouls all the time where a player is late to the pile and makes a nasty hit. This definitely wasn't intentional on colemans part, but given the potential danger involved I don't think a one game suspension is over the top. Love to see Tress defending his players though.
Also, no, football isn't soccer. But Coleman couldve broken that kid's neck. he should sit.
He could break your neck but not another football player with that hit. your soft and have never play the game.
The weight bench should be suspended for next weeks game don't you think?
LOL......that is all
That is retarded! Isn't that what the personal foul penalty was for? since when did football become a politically correct sport? If he had hurt Williams, then yeah suspend him. He got right up though... just give Ohio State a 15 yd penalty and that should suffice.
We just need to look at the plain text of 9-1-3: There really can be no question that Coleman violated 3.a; he lowered his head and led with it – what we used to call “spearing”. 3.b is a LITTLE bit muddier; McGee was definitely “defenseless”, Coleman definitely “initiated contact…above the shoulders”, the problem arises with the “AND TARGET” part of it – this would seem to imply that a determination of SPECIFIC intent on the hitter’s part to hit a defenseless player’s head with his own lowered one needs to be made both by the game officials at the time and the conference officials during their review. I don’t know if this is actually the case or whether 3.b is just poorly written, but it does raise the question of how such intent is to be divined – I rewound and rewatched the hit 4 or 5 times right when it happened, and again a few times later that night, and the end of that play was far too “fluid” (for lack of a better word) for even the most ungenerous observer to say without question that Coleman INTENDED to hit McGee’s head with his own. BUT: He unquestionably committed a clear – and pretty blatant, in my opinion – violation of 3.a, and demonstrated pretty poor judgment in doing so; that pile he was driving his helmet into included a couple of his teammates as well as McGee, and the aforementioned “fluidity” of the play means that he could easily have injured one of his own players, not to mention himself. It’s not strictly relevant, but it bears mentioning that it probably didn’t help Coleman’s case in the conference’s eyes that he was laughing as he came off the field. If I were Tressel, that would have merited some steps or gassers in and of itself.
So I really have no problem with the suspension, although all things considered it would have been better for the game officials to have ejected him at the time and saved us all this foofaraw.
On the subject of the Illini player, well, I have to plead ignorance – I know what play we’re talking about here, but don’t remember/didn’t see the punch. Is there a video of it anybody can point me to?
IIRC, there was quite the little melee going on for a second or two after that play, given that it happened deep into the Buckeyes’ sideline. I remember thinking at the time that the staff/coaches/officials did a super job of calming everything down quickly.
If there was indeed a punch, well, then, there ought indeed to be a suspension – but I don’t think it has any bearing on Coleman. If anything it’s more analogous to Jonas Mouton’s situation, and we should probably let DickRod bitch and moan about double standards. I am uncomfortable making the argument that because an Illinois player got away with one it means that Coleman should be given a pass.
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Sorry - missed the link above. I don't see a "punch". I see a lot of pushing and shoving by everybody.
after watching the reply...good luck not having a suspension after every game this year big ten. jesus christ this was a dumb move.
...and that hit got the same punishment as a sucker punch? come on. this is ridiculous. i eagerly await the future of the big ten - 100,000 capacity stadiums...powder puff play.
Steroids are a helluva drug...
One was thrown but not landed, you may need a HD clip. One of the announcers even said something like, "He needs to be careful, he threw a ..." and trailed off without saying punch.
It's gotta suck to be whoever was supposed to be spotting him. My high school weights coach would have us running stairs until we puked if we ever used improper spotting technique.
tyson gentry says thanks for the sympathy
watch the video. coleman comes right under the QBs chin with his helmet and the full force of his body. you could be the most roided up piece of meat in the world and that'd still have the potential for serious injury
+1
I might even go as far as to say an entire crate of dicks.
Don't be a douche and bring Ty into things. I'm sure that he isn't moaning and wailing about how dangerous this hit could have been for the people involved.
Eh? Throwing the ball right at Buckeyes should bring back fond memories of his collegiate career.
that was awesome
No one said jack shit about mouton. It's what the big ten officials have been crying about on tv every game dick.
Why is it that there is always a dick head like you that has to "equate" my statements with some kind of cheap shot at Michigan? I made a statement about big ten officiating and you have to bring up "the phantom" punch by Mouton.
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One suspension for Michigan and one suspension for OSU, and to think I was just getting shit about it last week...
are you referring to the punch? slightly different chain of events, wouldn't you say?
Don't you have to swing your arm to call it a punch? He just stood up, and got suspended because the play was dirty and he deserved it. Just like a late hit spearing of an opposing qb in a blowout that is followed with smiles and high fives from the sideline gets a suspension.
if we're talking about the punch against ND he swung his arm. it was a pretty clear uppercut
42-7
I need cliff notes.....
Wow didn't even see that coming, must be that education I got from tOSU paying off!
Going to go ahead and "SNAP" myself for that one, well played sir!
I hear Rich Rod is recruiting thugs to rival the West Virginia State Correctional Facility he had in Morgantown.
Is that where Clarett is?
like your team has never had anyone get in trouble. that's ig'nant.
follow up question, has Anthony Thomas gotten approved for his 15th year of eligibility yet?
El Caballo, that is brilliant. Made me laugh out loud at work.