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Notes from Today's Practice

The players were in shells today but still lots of good action to observe. There were 24 periods with the initial 5 minute sessions focused on stretching and individual position drills. The QB's worked on dropping back and scanning stationary receivers, the RB's ran various agility drills with high knees a chief focus. The WR drills targeted quick feet to jump over zig zagged pads before turning to catch the ball. The defense was mainly on the field furthest from where the media could assemble so I didn't see much there. I did see Small fielding a ton of punts. He's obviously the starting punt returner no matter what his summer school drama did to his status as the fourth receiver.

Since the defense seems to be further along and with less question marks than the offense, I spent most of the practice focusing on what the O was up to. Despite being in shorts, there was still plenty of head to head snaps whether it was 11 on 11, 7 on 7 or other variations (RB catching passes against secondary).

Here's some bullets based on what I saw:

Offensive Line: Boren is back. Who knows if he would've gone if in full pads but he took part in all drills and appeared to be moving without any issues. As a result, the group that took the most snaps with the ones from left to right was Miller, Boren, Brewster, Browning and Cordle. Shugarts also logged his fair share of first team snaps at LT.

Injury Notes: Heyward didn't go in team drills but he did some individual drills plus a heavy dose of stationary bike. He's obviously no longer in the boot, instead sporting what looked like a slim air brace of some kind. Jamaal Berry did some stationary bike but I never saw him in any individual or team drills. More on that in a second. Lawrence Wilson also only saw time on the bike as did Melvin Fellows. Spitler is another guy who did nothing drill wise but he was out there doing individual stuff. He looks like he's the most questionable at this point. Gordon reported Ballard didn't play. I honestly didn't notice since the TE's weren't really in the mix as much as we saw Saturday.

Passing Game: From my vantage point, the top three looked like Posey, Sanzenbacher and Washington but Carter, Flash and Small also saw extensive action with Pryor at QB. It's amazing how deep OSU appears to be here. Schwartz even made a great catch and it seemed like he was always open.

As in the jersey scrimmage, we witnessed another heavy dose of short and wide passes but with a twist. This time, OSU lined up in a few different formations, most notably with a WR (usually Dane or Small) lined up in the old-school shot-Ginn that you are familiar with. The WR then rolled out for a quick pass with two wideouts on the line of scrimmage to block. The number of times they ran this leads me to believe they plan to use it this year however Pryor had difficulty consistently completing the pass, let alone completing it perfectly by leading the receiver so he could get a running start toward the line. More on Pryor in a minute.

Jamaal Berry vs. Jordan Hall vs. Redshirt: There was much speculation on the sidelines as to what might happen with both Berry and Hall. Talk of a redshirt for Berry was lobbed back and forth considering Boom, Zoom and Pryor will get plenty of carries and it seems Martin or one of the FB's might be the short yardage guy. I spoke briefly to Lesmerises about it and he made a good point about it not being so easy to consider a redshirt for Berry even though Hall has basically dusted him performance wise, though Berry has been injured, so far in camp. He referenced how Tressel almost "lost" Thaddeus when he redshirted him and that a top prospect like Berry could also handle a redshirt in the same manner as Gibson. Sure, we saw Gibson bounce back but Berry's ego / expectations must be taken into account as they decide what to do with the glut of young RB's that might not see the field. Because the head to head drills focused mostly on passing since they were in shells, the RB's didn't have any real chances to rush the football but Hall was amazing in the RB drills. Dude runs so low to the ground and is crazy quick. He picks em up and puts em down in a hurry.

Captains: I heard Laurie Schmidt taking an informal poll on who the captains might be and it seemed unanimous: Worthington, Coleman, Cordle and Ballard. I spoke with a few guys about the recent suggestions TP might be a captain and they all agreed that it's not going to happen.

Pryor Stuff: Disclaimer: let me say I realize the kid is young and the expectations are probably unreasonable. Now, let me say that I again came away from practice thinking there were just as many ups as downs in what I saw from him. While I think he's one of the competitive guys I've ever seen, I have yet to see a lot of leadership characteristics. He seemed to kind of just go through the motions out there at times - kind of giving off the vibe that he knows who he is and what he can do. Maybe I'm reading it entirely wrong. That could definitely be the case considering I was among a group talking to Brian Rolle after practice and he raved about TP's leadership skills. More than likely, he's still working on his maturity and channeling his competitive nature in the right way at all times. He never really took command of the offense and his body language seemed tired. Whatever. Just throwing it out there. He's one of the best players in the country and I'm not trying to pile on. Just writing what I perceived and at least a few others I've never met until today seemed to agree.

Passing wise, he was still inconsistent. As I stated earlier, he struggled with timing passes to the shot-Ginn receiver including a bounced pass and one completely behind Boom. Others required the receiver to stop or adjust all their momentum which killed the play. He threw a couple long balls that were badly underthrown and he took a couple sacks because he wouldn't throw the ball away. To the good, he did unleash a few lasers over the middle and he in Posey appeared much more in sync that what I saw Saturday. When he steps into his throws, he ain't playin'. He's just got to be more consistent.

He did have what would've been long runs on designed rollout keepers and one draw and he also looked adept on the option. I think they ran it about four times with Saine and it was effective every time. The draw play would've been a 45 yard TD, no doubt.

Other Bits: Small caught a long TD pass from Bauserman. I heard Earle Bruce raving about Adam Homan at fullback. Adams again looked unfazed by his third team status. Amos started with the ones but Torrence split time. I didn't really see Hines in for Russell but that's not to say it didn't happen? Wish I would've paid more attention to that with the recent talk he might be making a push for Russell's spot.

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Bobby on 26 August 2009 - 8:52pm #

Chris,
The Ozone reported that Miller was the only tackle to slow Thaddeus. What did you see?

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will on 26 August 2009 - 9:12pm #

on the ozone it said that Pryor looked great it seems like u guys are knocking pryor more than tellig the good but ur just doing your job.

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Chris on 26 August 2009 - 9:15pm #

It was hard to tell because I was standing on the sideline at ground level and the offense went from left to right on your radio dial most of the time. Made it hard to see through the traffic, especially with just me there. I think Ozone had a couple guys there and they probably divided up who watched what.

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Chris on 26 August 2009 - 9:16pm #

I'm surprised to see that pryor looked great according to anyone. I just read Gordon's update and he seemed to see the same holes I did. Take it for what it's worth. I didn't read the article you mention but to hear "Great" seems like a serious overstatement.

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Ryan B. on 26 August 2009 - 10:20pm #

Alright, finally going to see the Ray Gun this year. Knock on Small all you want, but he was our best offensive player against USC last year and his skills with the ball are going to be needed to spark some big plays...

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J.B. on 26 August 2009 - 10:20pm #

The leadership comment in the article Chris is interesting...and I have to agree.

Thinking back on the USC game from last year, I couldn't help but be impressed with the leadership that Pryor had during that game. It seemed as though Todd would walk off the field with his head hung low and would find his place on the bench...while Pryor seemed to be in guys faces on the sideline, cheering for the D to make a stop and really looking like a kid that had been on Campus for years vs. weeks - Where the heck did that go?

I would love for him to get that back...

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Jason on 26 August 2009 - 10:23pm #

I don't think anyone has ever debated Small's worth on the field. He was our best receiver against USC like you said and he was the Big Ten's top punt returner.

It's the off-field stuff that always seems to get in his way.

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J.B. on 26 August 2009 - 10:31pm #

As for the injury front...

I've heard from a really good source, that is close to Jack Mewhort, that is saying Mewhort was told by the coaching staff that he will NOT take a redshirt and to be ready to play this season....Not real shocking....

The part that I found interesting though, is that Mewhort is expected to get a lot of time during the Navy game. It sounds like Boren will indeed get the start, but the coaching staff will be quick to rotate Boren and Mewhort the entire game.

Knowing our Coaching staff, there is no way they are overlooking Navy or thinking that they can "shelf" Boren during the Navy game. I might be reading too much into this, but I have to think that Boren is a little more beat up than we think.

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Chris on 26 August 2009 - 10:35pm #

Mewhort has probably been the most impressive second team lineman from what I've seen so I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true.

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Matt on 26 August 2009 - 10:35pm #

If that is true about rotating, the coaches might be looking to get Mewhort minutes in a game environment before USC comes to town, in anticipation that Mewhort might have to play in that game, and since Boren already is a relatively seasoned vet. I don't think the coaches would be looking past Navy by subbing in and out at the left guard position.

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MackRM408 on 26 August 2009 - 10:46pm #

Heard from a friend on the team that he likes Pryor's progression in the passing game and that 'we will actually be able to throw the ball this year.' I dont know if that means he felt he was so inadequate last year that it had to get better or not. Also he said 'we are a left tackle away from being a great team.' Mike Adams biggest disappointment in camp?

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will on 26 August 2009 - 10:58pm #

well yeah it said "Pryor impressive Wednesday" the title was and it was telling about him in the practice

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J.B. on 26 August 2009 - 11:06pm #

I don't know if this comes as a HUGE shock either, but the same guy who dropped me the lines about Mewhort also mentioned that the coaching staff has really been impressed with Miller at LT and it looks like he is leading for the starting LT spot.

I think I was hoping that J.B. would emerge as the guy simply so that 2/3rds of the Block O would be set this year so that the hype around the group wouldn't be just that...HYPE

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RunTellMatt on 26 August 2009 - 11:13pm #

Either that Matt or they understand what a stud Boren is and want to give him all the time they can to make sure he's fully healthy when SC comes to town. But, like you said, in the event he's not completely healthy, getting Mewhort game time experience is crucial.

To help kill some time until game time, and to get yourself further hyped, if you can, go watch the 2007 bowl game when Michigan spanked Florida (Oh, they spanked them. It could have been a blowout had Hart not fumbled twice at the goal line, not to mention the other two TO's). Boren was living up to the hype all day for sure. Granted, he had Jake Long lined up beside him.

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Jimmy on 27 August 2009 - 12:56am #

I think you guys need to cool down on TP for just a second. Even the best football players and leaders drag a little bit in the middle of preseason camp. I can tell you that from experience.. it gets to a point where you have done everything, and you feel like you are just repeating stuff over and over and over and that a game is never going to come. So while you may interpret Pryor's perceived apathy as poor leadership, I would caution you to look at it as being sick of practicing and ready to play. I know when I played, it got to that point. You are fired up at the beginning of camp, but by the end it just drags. I think you will see the Pryor we saw at USC last season once the Buckeyes start getting to hit someone without the same jersey on.

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PG on 27 August 2009 - 3:04am #

+1

After all, this is practice we're talking about here. By season's start TP will be in beast mode, guaranteed.

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GoBucks on 27 August 2009 - 6:06am #

I can't believe Tressel lets you in to practice. Why don't you get on your phone and personally report to the rest of the teams we are going to play on how are guys are looking and playing. I had a coach in high school who told us not to read all the bad things he said about us in the paper because he was setting the rest of the teams up that we would play.

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Chris on 27 August 2009 - 6:59am #

I don't know that I was negative enough to need to "cool down" but I like your point about TP probably being tired of camp, the repetition, and such. He could very well be sick of practicing and ready to play. Still, as the best player, maybe he should still be cautious of how he's coming across. Maybe not. Either way, I have no doubts we'll see a fired up machine when the actual games start. Again, I was just throwing out what I perceived.

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Chris on 27 August 2009 - 7:01am #

Take a look around the buckeye sites today. I think you'll see similar notes. I doubt comments about 3 practices will cause the program to collapse.

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GoBucks57 on 27 August 2009 - 9:18am #

Seriously? The fans can call out the offensive plays now based on the formation. I really don't think Pete Carroll is reading this putting in his defense based on it.

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southbaybuckeye on 27 August 2009 - 12:07pm #

ummm but what if they do?!

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Brandon on 27 August 2009 - 1:01pm #

Great stuff Chris........quick question and haven't heard much about either of these guys-who are no doubt buried a ways down on the depth chart- but what and how are Chris Fields and James Jackson doing? Other freshmen you think are going to redshirt this year?

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Buckeye Scottie on 27 August 2009 - 2:15pm #

"Practice?!?! Practice?! We talkin about practice...."

God Bless Allen Iverson

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Brian on 27 August 2009 - 2:44pm #

It's not always great on the field too. He plays pretty lazy a lot of the time.

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Poe McKnoe on 27 August 2009 - 9:07pm #

i personally don't care until the first and second game then the third and fourth and fifth.

basically, wake me when they get on the field and ball.

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