Tressel flexed on Beanie (Tressel's World)After last Saturday's offensive stinkfest against Purdue, Tress went on the defensive a few times in this week's presser but for the most part he was his usual calm, talking without saying much self.
Discussing the offense, he noted no offensive player graded a winning performance however there were six such instances on defense led by Jenkins, who played his best game of the season, and Laurinaitis.
Moving to Michigan State, Tress discussed Ringer's impact on the Spartan rushing attack in addition to how it he opens up the pass:
They've got things going the way they'd like to go them. You have Javon Ringer who you better have a whole bunch of helmets up there to get stopped. I think he's really grown as a runner. He was always a great kid. He was always a great competitor, great trainer, great, good receiver and special teams guy, but now he's turned into a very, very patient runner. Like most young runners, maybe early in his career he would have a tendency to bounce it outside a little bit and now he'll sit and wait and keep his shoulders square and so you better be prepared to have him tote the ball 30-plus times in the ball game and the thing that makes that difficult is that usually it takes extra people there to stop him, which makes you a lot more vulnerable to the play action pass and to the pass game and so forth. And Michigan State's done a good job, especially in the last three weeks of really hurting people with their pass game because everyone has seen what they need to do to stop the run.
Nothing unexpected in that assessment however I was little puzzled by his comments on MSU's defense, and more importantly how it supposedly mirrors Ohio State's:
From a defensive standpoint, what you'll see from Michigan State is a lot like what you see from us. Obviously it's just a mirror image and they're going to put a lot of people in the box and make it very difficult for you to run. They're going to dare you to throw. They're going to play aggressive coverage on your receivers. They're going to make it very difficult for them to get off the line of scrimmage and they love to bring blitzes. They're going to have two or three new blitzes, usually of the zone blitz variety. They're not really a big blitz and play zero coverage type group, but a lot of zone blitzes and make it difficult on your pass protection.Stack the box? Dare you to throw? Employ two or three new blitzes? I think OSU's defense is improving, but I'm not sure I'm following him with some of those statements. I do agree we'll see a lot of zone blitzing out of Dantonio and that's certainly consistent with the Buckeye blitz package.
Tress also reminded us just how effective MSU's punter, Aaron Bates, was last year pinning OSU inside the 10 yard line on three of his eight punts. Sounds like he's doing the same thing this season including one downed at the 2 yard line last week.
Moving to the OSU side of things, Tress was asked more than once about the decision to insert Pryor over Boeckman and how the Vest feels about the decision looking back. That's when he started to at least infer a little distaste for the topic:
COACH TRESSEL: Do I have any misgivings? I'm not sure what a misgiving is. Would I love to have Todd having some snaps in the game? Obviously. Because Todd's a great kid and you would love to have him have opportunities. Do I think Terrelle is improving? I think he's learning every day. I'm not exactly sure what a misgiving is, but -- REPORTER: You don't have any doubts whatsoever that when you brought Terrelle in, that the timing was right for that and he was prepared for that as Todd was also to not play. COACH TRESSEL: That's about four questions within one. Do I feel okay about what we've done and what we're doing? Yeah. REPORTER: Jim, if you would love for Todd to get in and get some snaps, than why hasn't Todd gotten in and gotten some snaps? COACH TRESSEL: Haven't determined that that was the right moment, situation. REPORTER: What would be the right moment, then? COACH TRESSEL: You'll know the moment it happens. I'm being honest with you.Sure, that doesn't read like much but with Tressel's demeanor I think he's tired of the subject.
From there, he was asked about finger pointing which led to him taking an indirect swipe at Beanie for voicing his opinion to the media regarding the play calling against Purdue:
Well, you hope you have the right kind of people, which I think we do. Is it human nature to be disappointed when you don't do as well as you'd hoped or as well as we need to be? Absolutely. But I guess the only way you can avoid finger pointing is be so focused on what you have to do to aid the cause and get better and not spend a whole bunch of time analyzing or talking with whomever about what may be the solution and control what you can control.The media obviously picked up on his comment so a few questions later Tress was asked about Beanie essentially questioning the number of pass plays called:
Well, if you check the records, we could -- Kathe could show us the court records -- we've called a lot more passes than we've thrown. Some of them maybe we should have thrown them in there, but you know what, some of them maybe the best decision was to not. Some of them we've had a little bit of protection problems. Early in the season, some of them our protection problems were fine and all of a sudden we left the confines of our protection, so if -- I don't get real caught up in how many passes we throw. I get caught up in how many we complete and how many we throw to the other guys, but -- no, I would like to -- in this day and age, I suppose you're going to get 65 plays to 70 on a normal game and I would like to throw it 30 times, that'd be great, run it 35, throw it 30, but let's make sure that a good bunch of them are completions and a couple of them are touchdowns and none of them interceptions.While I am sick of the play calling as much as the next guy, I do think Tressel makes a valid point. There's a combo of factors such as poor line play and a timid QB when it comes to passing that intertwine with the grossly predictable play calling. Still his problems to correct, but I think we all agree we'd see more actual pass attempts down field if Prince Markie Dee, the Human Beat Box and the rest of the Fat Boys could pass protect for a couple seconds.
Oh, and so much for thinking Tressel had discovered some magic leading to Cordle and Person swapping sides of the line:
COACH TRESSEL: Shelly probably was dyslexic on that one. REPORTER: That's not a change? COACH TRESSEL: That was probably a typo.Dammit! I had my heart set on that change saving the season.
Continuing with the o-line, Tress took one more dig at Rehring and his apparent need for diapers while speculating on where he fits into the mix:
He'll play at right guard and right tackle like he has ever since he's been back, which was against two games, one and a half games counting the restroom. Just the facts.Too bad he didn't take it further and announce the fact Rehring is the worst lineman in the conference.
Not really any other highlights in my mind. Tress confirmed Wilson's done for the year and Spitler, Nicol and Sanzenbacher are back but a decision on Boom likely won't come until later today. Seems like the rest of the presser was 20 questions on Pryor v. Boeckman. Frankly, I'm tired of that talk so I left it out. That said, I personally expect Boeckman to see the field for at least two series this Saturday. Not saying I agree, just feel it coming.







Comments
I think The Todd makes sense to get in a few series each week, just to let LiC to catch his breath, if you will. I couldn't stand The Todd as our starter, but I think he is probably one of the best backups. I think he doesn't feel the pressure as the backup and plays loose and bombs away, in the few series he has been in. The way LiC runs (or not runs lately) we're going to need Boecks for a half or a quarter before the season is over, and may need to win (or just not lose) a game.
My opinion only:
Putting Boeckman back in at QB does nothing but stir up controversy. Boeckman has already proved that he is a deer in the headlights under pressure.... period. That being said, the protection has been atrocious and I will wager that if he had protection then he would be better. The situation is what it is and unfortunately it is now Pryor time. Pryor will only get better with game reps and if that means a loss or 2, then so be it. The reps now will benefit Pryor for Michigan, the Bowl Game and for next season.
Last week there were several plays where you could see Pryor wanting to throw and all of a sudden 3 Purdue players are right next to him. He is a throw first, run second QB and he may be able to move around in the pocket, but he needs time to throw.
Agreed that Boeckman won't offer much better looks, considering, as everyone has been stating, it all starts with the OL, and they have been extremely porous. So it's really a lose-lose situation.
Keep Boeckman in and watch him get sacked or panic and throw an INT
vs
Keep Pryor in and watch him get sacked or be too hesitant and scramble for loss (sack anyway)
The upside to keeping Pryor in is getting experience and development.
I still don't think the QB is the problem. Blocking, game-plan, & execution. Maybe JT should call in the back-up play caller.
Boeckman is a good change of pace QB. Bring him in for a series or two when we are up a score and really work that PA Pass. With all the talent this team fields there is no reason we should be throwing WR screens on 3rd down and more than 3. It seemed like we didnt even want to convert against Purdont. My buckeye game hat is getting quite tattered and dirty this season from constantly throwing it at the tv when our line doesn't do its job and or D allows those 3 yard passes over the middle to go for 12-15 YAC. *Deep Breath* and I'm done......lol
Yeah it's already established that our OL just isn't good. It is up to the coaches to adjust the playcalling accordingly. Very short passes, dump it off real quick, screens, something... give Pryor only 2 legit passing options and if they aren't there in the first 2 seconds then take off running.
agree with Frosty 100%. Give TP some time and call some plays that make use of his talents. Opening drive against Wisky proves we can move the ball with TP, but the o-line needs to do its job and the coaches need to adjust the play-calling to mix things up the next time we get the ball (unlike OSU, some defenses adjust before halftime). I would keep Pryor in every O-play.
Go Bucks!
It seems that "moving the pocket" may be the key to a weak O-Line... as in the Veer offense made famous in the movie about Marshall University. Also an option style attack works well with a weak O-line... I also agree to quick sideline passes to the RB or Wideout... snap, turn, throw... and it will force the defense to play the wide-man which opens up running lanes for Pryor.
Yeah, that's what we want with a pour offensive line, an immobile quarterback prone to holding onto the ball himself, and throwing costly interceptions.
Todd is a class act the way he's been on the sidelines, and he's doing more for the team there than he ever did on the field. How quickly some forget that this guy didn't have a good game in the last 7, dating all the way back to Wisconsin at home. He's thrown for 200 yards once in those games (208 vs. LSU). I wish the best for Todd, but it's clear that he was a beneficiary of very bad opposition.
And the guy who should talk least about a "change-of-pace" at quarterback is Alex Boone. I got a change of pace for him: block someone. He's one of the big reasons Todd is on the bench. If his head wasn't scrambled from so many unblocked rushers, he might still be playing.
Alex Boone needs to shut his trap...... looks like the coaching staff blew this one!!! He has not lived up to his billing and one of the major reasons Boeckman is sitting on the bench is the fact that his lineman have not blocked for any OSU QB since Troy Smith got destroyed from every angle against Florida. See also... Illinois, LSU, Ohio Univ, Purdue, USC
Biography:
Alex Boone was the highest rated recruit in the 2005 Ohio State recruiting class. Boone was the No. 1 prospect in the state of Ohio. He was offered by Ohio State before his junior season and has been committed to the Buckeyes since then.
Boone was named to the Scout.com, U.S. Army All-American team in 2004. He's a three-year varsity starter that was named all-state the past two seasons. Alex is Scout.com's #1 Midwest prospect and the #3 overall offensive lineman in the nation.
It's obviously not the QB, but I really like Scott's "catch his breath" comment. I don't think Todd will really help the team directly to win the game, but indirectly I think he can help LiC win the game. LiC is very familiar with Todd's strengths and weakness as well as his own. Putting Todd in early in a game could potentially help LiC see what the defense is doing and make adjustments to what he wants to do once he gets back in. I think putting Todd in up a score or two is pointless. If they decide to get him in it should be early (3rd or 4th series). It will force defenses to adjust and prepare for this, but I really think LiC is such a student of the game it could help him by seeing it live in person on the sideline. He can watch all the tape he wants, but none of that tape is against the type of threat he poses.
I'm not sure if I'm explaining my thought clearly, but I think it makes a little sense.
Any Steelers fans out there think LiC reminds them a little of Big Ben? In the sense that they both have a large frame and like to hold on to the ball to make a play downfield? Sometimes I wish both of them would just take off running or throw the ball out of bounds rather than take the sack.
I'm a steeler fan and not really. Ben doesn't run 4.4 40. Terrelle doesn't trust his arm as much as his legs yet, but we need to give him time to get there. He needs to play like he did on that last drive at wisconsin and just make quicker throws. The Crossing routes will be open all day when the other team is forced to spy a linebacker.
Good call Frosty would like the back-up play caller inserted. As for QB changing i guess along as Pryor is still getting the majority of the snaps if would not hurt to put him (Todd) in a couple of series a game, because we all know our offense needs a spark. I know our OL sucks but maybe they look worse because calling a defense against our offense is not real difficult because we are very predictable. OL is our biggest problem but play calling is 1b and has been a problem Tressel's whole time here, all this being said i think best case is Pryor maturing take a few lumps and hope Tressel and our OL gets improved so we have a offense that looks like a top tier program next year!!!
I don't think it would make a difference if you had Steve Young with Walter Payton and Barry Sanders in the backfield. As long as we have Boone thinking he is the white Orlando Pace and Rehring literally pissing his pants every time he has to block somebody, we are, dare I say, fucked.
BuckeyeSki maybe you should dust your tv
;)
BTW, that is the most disturbing picture ever posted on 11W....
Except for the Rita Rod pic.
Pryor? Big Ben? Are you joking?
SMH
Baby Booey-
I would but I spend all day on all the Buckeye Blog sites. LOL How I get laid consistently is beyond me
Boone is the best lineman we have playing right now. Followed by Brewster. The Problem is when we are so vanilla on offense(see mo wells up the gut on 1st and 2nd) it puts the line in a tough spot having 3 and long and knowing the blitz is coming.
Bottom line is the play calling needs to get better along with the QB and the line. More passes to the backs and te's will take pressure off this line and the QB.
BOONE IS THE BEST LINEMAN WE HAVE PLAYING NOW??? WHAT KINDA WEED ARE YOU SMOKING IN TAMPA???
Um, no I'm not joking. I guess nobody read the comment "In the sense that they both have a large frame and like to hold on to the ball to make a play downfield". Both do this and take unnecessary sacks when they could've thrown the ball out of bounds, etc. Both have the ability of making people miss tackles because the are big & can shake off tacklers. Yes, LiC is much faster. But Big Ben is one of the better QBs in the NFL as far as running with the ball.
why do you suppose tressel tans his body so much, while not letting his face get any color???
I guess all the hating on the line is with reasoning but i think people fail to realize its the same line as last year minus Barton who was not that good, so i think alot of our offense struggles go back to coaching because even though our offense line sucked last year it is now worse with everybody back. Vanilla offense is our biggest problem its not hard to put everybody in the box stop the run or the two wr set and a play action bomb we are the most predictable offense in the country and what coach in there right mind who has Mo Wells after four years and still runs him up the middle, you can shit bigger then he is. I agree though about Jenkins, i put Jenkins and Winfield in same category except Winfield was a big hitter and seems Jenkins makes the bigger picks. Memo to Tressel Thomas and Posey KR, if you are going to let Hartline go out there complain and play like a pussy, then let those two athletes give you good field postion so we can pin other team deep in side there own twenty with the punt :)
I still have no answer .... ridiculous