Camp Meyer 2013: Practice No. 17

By Kyle Rowland on August 17, 2013 at 2:16p
Meyer handed down multiple punishments on Saturday.

There have been murmurs of suspensions for Rod Smith throughout the week. On Saturday, head coach Urban Meyer put an end to the speculation, announcing that Smith will be suspended for the season opener versus Buffalo.

Meyer did not elaborate on the incident, only saying it dates back to February. Smith was in line to be the starting running back in Carlos Hyde’s absence, according to Meyer. But now he’ll fall down in the pecking order.

“If it wasn’t for a mistake in February then he’d be maybe the starter, because we want Jordan to play both spots,” Meyer said. “It’s his last call. It’s the 11th hour for Rod Smith. He needs to perform.”

There has also been a dose of closure on the month-long case involving Bradley Roby. Meyer said the cornerback will be suspended at least one game after Roby was arrested at a Bloomington, Ind., bar. The charges were reduced on Friday, and Meyer hinted that the reduction lessened Roby’s suspension, though he left open the possibility that there could be further punishment.

“He’d be suspended for more than one if it didn’t show that,” said Meyer, referencing a video that indicates Roby was shoved. “He was there, and he shouldn’t have be there. Will he play in the first game? No.”

Many pundits across the country have criticized Meyer for his leniency when it comes to punishing players. This summer, however, has resulted in Meyer ignoring what the court of law says and doing the right thing instead.

There are only two ways players will learn, he said. You take money or playing time from them, hence the yanking of scholarships and team suspensions.

Blake Thomas’ career is over because of a neck injury. J.T. Moore will move to tight end.

The newest “official” members of the Buckeyes are defensive lineman Michael Hill and newly minted offensive lineman Billy Price. Both have shed their black stripes.

The team held a scrimmage Saturday morning. After the scrimmage, which concluded nine practices in six days, Meyer said Ohio State is not ready to play a game.

Linebackers are the biggest priority. Meyer said there’s a lot of improving that needs to be done.

Ryan Shazier said the unit is thinking on the field instead of playing. Players are stressed about doing everything right. It has the opposite effect, though, and they begin overthinking every action.

The Buckeyes ran 50 plays in the scrimmage, with Devin Smith being the MVP. Meyer said the big-play wide receiver had his best all-around performance.

Shazier elaborated, saying the offense is definitely better than the defense at this point. He also noted that the offensive skill players are noticeably better compared to last season.

Joe Burger, not Josh Perry, started alongside Shazier in the scrimmage.

When Perry was asked about the linebackers, he said the whole units has a ways to go. Depth is the biggest concern.

Shazier added five pounds of muscle to his frame during the offseason.

Another player who’s been impressive during came: offensive lineman Marcus Hall. Of the returnees along the line, Meyer felt he was the low man. That isn’t the case any more. Meyer said he’s “accelerated” his improvement.

Before his injuries last season, Jordan Hall was the player mentioned most by Meyer. He continuously talked about how great a playmaker he was. Well, that hype is retuning. Meyer said Hall will be "very valuable" this season.

Meyer has raved about Braxton Miller's leadership qualities in recent weeks. Today, though, he said the QB still has to make strides in that area.

Taylor Decker is the no-doubt-about-it starter at right tackle. Meyer is very pleased with where he's at now compared to the spring (obviously). Andrew Norwell and Corey Linsley still aren't up to speed. It’s not all bad, though, because the Buckeyes have been able to add some depth, mainly Pat Elflein and Jacoby Boren.

Meyer raved about Noah Spence. He said the dynamic defensive end is a high character guy, everything you want in a player. "I love Noah Spence," Meyer said.

Spence said he’s working on becoming a leader since the D-line is so young and inexperienced.

Get this: Spence weighed 227 pounds last season. He’s up to 255 now, which is where he will stay.

Spence said he wants to cut down on mental mistakes last season. He made some last year, but who doesn’t as a freshman?

Adolphus Washington is the roommate and best friend of Spence. The two are always competing against each other for tackles and sacks, and the trash talk continues in their living room.

Two young guys that have caught Spence’s eye are Jamal Marcus and Tyquan Lewis.

The team is not worried about rankings, according to Michael Bennett. They are taking it one game at a time. Bennett said preseason rankings are irrelevant. Game 14 is all that matters.

Spence said Ohio State will have a target on its back every week. You can’t get caught up in how good people say you are. They may have gone undefeated last season, but Spence said they didn’t accomplish their goal: winning a national championship.

Perry said there’s a greater sense of urgency this season.

In the scrimmage, Bennett said the quarterbacks and wide receivers were really on point.

The defensive line should be a strength on D this season. At the moment, however, Bennett said guys need to start trusting each other. They can all do the tasks and the chemistry is there to be a great unit.


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Jonnferrell's picture

Buffalo will soon be turned into hamburger by the Ohio State Buckeyes.

"I miss Brady Hoke."

rdubs's picture

Bison burgers are delicious...

cinserious's picture

I like how Spence is up to 255 now, probably with the same speed and quickness. Anybody got a pic of his new build? Id like to see what this beast looks like now.

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

cinserious's picture

Thx Kyle, lol looks like the cameraman kept his distance...

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

FROMTHE18's picture

looks like we have quite a bit of work to get done before we should even mention ourselves alongside Alabama...interesting that Burger started...

Urban Nation Army's picture

newly minted offensive lineman Billy Price.

Did I read this right?

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

rdubs's picture

Yep, speaks to our DLine depth.  Also many scouts thought he was a better guard than DT, so it might be a better position for him anyways.

Basso Profondo's picture

Big surprise, since when was that going to happen? Depth must really not be an issue in the interior then...

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Yes. Price moved to OL and JT Moore moved to TE. 

Hovenaut's picture

Congrats to Hill and Price, as well as Hall and Decker for their accolades.

Ready to hear some positives from the linebackers, anyone not named Shazier.

Thanks for the updates Kyle.

InHartWeTrust's picture

I would absolutely love for Rod Smith to be "the guy", but at this point in time, I am over him.  If he can't ever grow up as a member of the team, so be it...and he can just get his second or third string snap as they fall to him.  I do fully believe he is the highest potential back in the stable, just a shame the kid can't ever grow the hell up and not blow every opportunity put in front of him.  Huge disappointment.
So much potential, so little capturing of opportunities for him.

buckguyfan1's picture

This Staff if like a group of Black Smiths who keep pounding the hot iron until it is ready to be forged into something great.  Buckeye Broadswords will hopefully cut with precision and depth this fall.  Can't wait!

jayt's picture

good stuff! Thanks Kyle!

BTwrestle04's picture

Extremely nervous about the LB situation right now.

johnblairgobucks's picture

I remember from my days of playing linebacker in high school and college, that it seemed like it took till the second or third game of the season for the "game" to slow down a bit and become a natural fluid reaction event.  A second or two of over-thinking assignments and key reading, and the good OL are already in your face, blocking you, causing you to have to fight the block, move into position and be in proper tackling form.
Hopefully our LB struggles are just a sign that either they are just young or our OL, whom they are going against in practice, have 100% forgotten Walrusball.

Hovenaut's picture

I'd normally say no news is good news, but not in the case of Curtis Grant....getting the feeling it may not be panning out for him.

Hope I'm wrong here.

skid21's picture

From the Ozone article-

 Shazier said that he expects Curtis Grant to play with him in the nickel.

Hovenaut's picture

Hope so....tks for sharing.

InHartWeTrust's picture

He has been sidelined with an injury, per Urban.  People need to freakin chill on Grant until they see him on the field against Buffalo...pass judgement then.

Hovenaut's picture

Must've missed that he was banged up.

Read he was looking very good in the spring....really pulling for him and RDS to own the middle.

InHartWeTrust's picture

Hell yeah man, would love to see the kid materialize as a stud with RDS.  Perry has come along well, too.  Grant, Perry, Mitchell, and maybe even Berger would add a little bit of the much needed the potential of Johnson once he is healthy as well and gets to spend some time learning in practice.

Crimson's picture

There were posts that were up for just a few minutes about a week ago saying that Curtis Grant and Jalin Marshall had concussions.  The staff took them down, so it might have been bad information, or it could be the reason we don't hear much about those two.

RBuck's picture

Meyer said Ohio State is not ready to play a game.

Somehow I'm thinking Urban's blowing smoke.

Long live the southend.

GoBucksOSU's picture

I'm just hoping that his standard of not ready to play a game is "this team is ready to go out and win" by every other coaches standard. And Urban is just trying to keep the team from being complacent.

Oldschoolbuck's picture

Yeah, some smoke for sure; but Urbs is also pretty honest when it comes to evaluating where the team is at.
I don't think we'll be hearing that in 14 days, though. Complacency doesn't seem to be an option for a UFM-coached team.
The linebackers will be a strength by the beginning of B1G play - prediction made!

dbit's picture

I partially agree.  I imagine Meyer has a very high standard of where he wants his team to be.

pjtobin's picture

I can't say that I know Urbans ways. I'm learning them though. I'm not to sure he blows smoke . But how in the world can this much talent not be able to play a game they are all studs at. Either his bar is very high or he feels our d is truly weak. After a few more practices maybe he changes his toon. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

NitroBuck's picture

Urban is being 100% truthful when he says Ohio State is not ready to play a game.  They shouldn't be ready at this stage of camp, as installing the game plans for Buffalo won't happen for another week.  The Bucks will be ready once that is done.

Ferio.  Tego.

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Well, I am more than ready for them to play a game.

dubjayfootball90's picture

Spence and Washington. Roommates. Constantly pushing each other. Constantly competing. All American roommates in the future? Definitely has the making of a brutal tandem.

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

Mirror Lake Jump's picture

Would love to be a fly on that room's wall.

SYRmotsag's picture

Great post Kyle... thanks for all the updates and info.

hetuck's picture

Best news is no apparent major injuries in today's scrimmage. Contact will taper down from here. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

biggy84's picture

With all the talent that has been brought in at linebacker. i don't understand why there is still a problem there. Premium talent should be translating into better production. Most teams thrive with inferior talent than tOSU has. I really hope they come up big this year.

Buckeyejason's picture

Talented athletes doesn't always mean that they will be great Linebackers. JL certainly wasn't the best athlete but he could sure as hell play the position with the best of them!


biggy84's picture

It just seems like it has turned into a situation like the offensive line was under Bollman. When you have 10+ guys that were recruited by every major program in the nation, there shouldn't be any problem getting 2 or 3 to produce. Not trying to be negative, just concerned.

yrro's picture

Just seems like weird luck to me, or maybe getting too caught up in ratings rather than system fit. It's been the same guy coaching the linebackers for the last seven or eight years, I don't see how the same guy who coached Hawk, Laurinaitis, and Rolle suddenly forgot how to coach linebackers. I could, however, see the staff going after a five-star athlete and finding that he doesn't quite match what they need from the position mentally.

Smanpoint10's picture

it doesn't help that most of our linebackers are underclassmen. Gotta give them some time

NitroBuck's picture

People overlook how much attrition the Bucks have seen within the LB corps over the past few years.  It seems to me that nearly all of two recruiting classes were lost.  Things like that can take a program from having an embarrassment of riches to no longer having much in the way of upperclassmen.

Ferio.  Tego.

Buckeyejason's picture

Have a feeling the defense might be just like last years if not worse. Hopefully the offense can muster up enough points so it won't matter to much.
Great to hear about Berger. The guy must be a hoss!


zbd's picture

First time I can remember the offense is better than the defense early in practices. The LB situation makes me wonder if Curtis Grant still doesn't get it or his concussion problems remain. Not concerned though with guys like Mike Mitchell, Trey Johnson, Camren Williams. Can that last Boren kid switch?  .....Oh sorry he's a center.

bucknutz18's picture

LB situation is begininng to make me a bit uneasy...

Boomcat's picture

Wow. Watched Ozone's footage of Meyer's talk, and the dude sounds like he's about ready to pass out, lol.

harleymanjax's picture

"Shazier added five pounds of muscle to his frame during the offseason."
That one sentence just caused all of the B1G quarterbacks to shit their pants!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

Buckeyejason's picture

"Shazier added five pounds of muscle to his frame during the offseason."

Finally, a realistic comment about someone's improvements. Seems about right.


Statutoryglory's picture

Damn Rod Smith seems to consistently be his own worst enemy on and off the field.  I really hope he gets it together and gets 4-500yds this yr.  Good luck to Blake Thomas.  Thank God he didn't end up hurt more severely.  

Crimson's picture

Good luck to Blake.  Always terrible when we lose a guy who just wants to go out and compete.  I need to go back and watch him in the spring game; he looked good.

pjtobin's picture

I hate to hear that about rod smith. I am rooting for him to have a great year. I'm excited for the season to start. And I hope no more kids get into trouble. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

Toilrt Paper's picture

Not surprised the Freshman LB's aren't  up to speed. If upper classman LBs are not performing it is likely they can't think, follow keys and react AUTOMATICALLY. Any hesitation or wrong read by a LB is a death knell for a defense. A high intellect at LB at a high level of competition is required. Look at the great ones......and that is what Urban expects.

brband64's picture

A mixed bag overall from Meyer, which is probably to be expected - but aside from the fact that some units are not there yet, very encouraging to hear Spence mention Marcus and Lewis as having caught his eye.

"Maybe the Big Ten is not that bad. Maybe it's pretty damn good.'' ~ Urban Meyer

EDUGOON's picture

Could it be because our offense is so dynamic at the skill position that its tough to get a read on how good our LB's are? Could be a testament to Miller,Wilson,Smith,Hall,Heurman,Brown,Spencer,Smith and Elliot....(Sheesh that's a ton to handle in a practice team period!!! I love the standard to be high but could that be preventing an honest evaluation?

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skid21's picture

Not really. I think Urban expects our defense to be able to perform against top competition.

juventas's picture

Raekwon.......paging, Raekwon

Poison nuts's picture

Funny you say that. While I'm sure there are real issues at LB, I can't help but think that UFM is always recruiting.

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

ChazBuckeye's picture

Adolphus Washington is the roommate and best friend of Spence. The two are always competing against each other for tackles and sacks, and the trash talk continues in their living room.

This will make for an interesting couple of years with these two competing with each other. Could develop into quite a dynamic duo.

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

KingsRite's picture

The guys are just feeling the pressure and they know expectations are high. Getting on the field for a real game is the best thing that can happen. They will be fine and the early season games will help them find their identity. Look at last year and how rough Coach spoke about them and the mistakes that were made early in the season. After watching the interviews, I think they all just need some time to decompress, especially with the various injuries, etc. that happened this week. Too much talent and too good of a coaching staff to fall flat. They will be fine. ;)

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

Oldschoolbuck's picture

I will freak out if the D isn't performing up to expectations when they line up against an offense not wearing S&G.
We Buckeye fans are a neurotic lot (and I've been one for over 45 years). Let's all take a deep breath, remember UFM's incredibly high standards, keep in mind that he's a master motivator, trust the coaches (who HAVE shown they can produce amazing results: Laurinaitis, Hawk, Rolle, Carpenter, etc., as has been stated on this thread) and watch what transpires over the next month.
I believe we'll be really happy!

gobucks96's picture

The secondary is stronger and the linebacker crew have a strong, experienced anchor in shazier. I'm not worried yet. Just want to see the dine playing well.

buckskin's picture

Paging Rod Smith; Paging Rod Smith:  this is your last chance.  Step up in games 2 and 3 and show all Buckeye Nation what you can really do. 
"He was there and he shouldn't have been there".  Sounds like Meyer is getting tired of the crap.

SGTBuckeye83's picture

Just watching the interviews from today on YouTube. I think it will all be ok. Quick observation... Joel Hale and Michael Bennett have got to be the 2 most well spoken individuals on this team. Sometimes guys get interviewed and they just look like what they are, 18-19 yo kids answering questions. Michael is just a statesmen out there. Just absolutely solid responses from those guys.

Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.

Seattle Linga's picture

@ SGTBUCKEYE83 Can you forward the link from Youtube?

OSUStu's picture

Two young guys that have caught Spence’s eye are Jamal Marcus and Tyquan Lewis. 

I thought this was kind of funny considering Spence and Marcus were in the same class.  Maybe it just shows Spence taking a leadership role on this defense.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

Dougger's picture

Good luck Blake Thomas - hope he recovers well.

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