Your Vent Thread

By 11W Staff on January 2, 2012 at 4:11p
225 Comments

It's finally over. The season that couldn't get here soon enough couldn't end fast enough.

Florida beats Ohio State 24-17. Keep it clean-ish, leave the personal stuff out of it and let the Urban Era begin.

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

glad to see with lots of time to prepare we regressed.  

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

NYC Buckeye's picture

I have to say this was my exact only thought during this mess of a bowl game.. they looked like it was week 3 at Miami.. I just dont understand how with no bowl game next season you can come out flat.. I'm just not even sure how to react to this...

BuckeyeChief's picture

You know, don't even put this sh*t up. I want to vomit, what a suckfest.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BuckeyeChief's picture

Negative. We beat Arkansas and Texas A&M twice.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Bucksfan's picture

They won't let us have those.  In fact, there's no way I'll give you the A&M wins.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Well, if they advertise them all over an SEC game, I'm taking them. So there.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

btalbert25's picture

Can't count Texas A&M, they haven't played a snap in the SEC.  That'd be like the B1G counting Nebraska's all time bowl records against other conferences as B1G wins.  

faux_maestro's picture

Would that be like the B1G Network broadcasting Nebraska bowl games from the '90's as "B1G's greatest games"? OR Tom Osborne as a "B1G Legend"?

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

BuckeyeChief's picture

Yes. I was just being angry.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

faux_maestro's picture

It's cool. If the B1G takes credit for Nebraska in the '90's then we get credit for beating A&M in 2 bowl games.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

Hoody Wayes's picture

A fitting conclusion.

BuckeyeCrew's picture

We got beat on special teams.. something that used to be a strength. 

I think the one "thing" that has hurt us the most this year (aside from QB play), has been mistakes in the form of penalties and clock management.

Normal Buck's picture

I was thinking about this - we're we really that great on special teams in the past, or did we just benefit on having a run of great kickers and punters until the past few years (like since we can't get KO's into the end zone)? Of course I can't really remember the last time we had kicks/punts blocked at more inopportune times.

Thank goodness, indeed that this season is over.

Rooster Buckburn's picture

This year couldn't end soon enough - thank God we can refresh moving forward

 

btalbert25's picture

I can't believe how bad they looked, so much for bowl practices being important.  This team looked bad.  Should've skipped the bowl this year.  Looks like Michigan State is going to blow it too.  B1G getting owned once again this year. 

Bucksfan's picture

I don't know what the hell they were doing for those 14 practices.  They didn't improve one iota.

buckeyeEddie27's picture

cant wait to hear alllll about      sssssss    eeeeee   ccccccc  speeeed.   

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

Fuck the Walrus and that game plan!!!!!

Plus it should've been a tied game if they would have reviewed that first so called touchdown

Bring Urban and a real offense!!!!

lamplighter's picture

This was worse than Cooper's first year.  Thank God it's over

ysuosu1's picture

Well, I guess coaching really does matter...the only words I can think of for this year...predictable and boring!!!

LP

BuckeyeChief's picture

FTW. Really. This may be the worst team I've ever watched. Sucking is one thing, but mental mistakes are another, and I am a god d@mned Mets fan, so me saying that says a lot.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Seabass1974's picture

No reason to vent for me. "WOOSH!" That's the sound of me flushing this season from my mind. Time to look to the future.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

Miller's picture

Urban needs to handle special teams here like he did at Florida...

Bucksfan's picture

It has been 0 years since Ohio State's last losing season.

Correction: Technically 2010 was a losing season...0-1.

Baroclinicity's picture

But technically your original statement was correct, regardless.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Bucksfan's picture

I'm not necessarily thinking straight right now.

Baroclinicity's picture

Totally understand.  Wasn't judging, just saying.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Roger's picture

Q: When two retards fight, what do you call the winner?

A: A retard.

doodah_man's picture

Thanks Roger...my sentiments exactly

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

OHIOST1087's picture

Thanks a lot Gene Smith... I wouldn't stand too close to Simon on senior day in November.

Conroy's picture

The next bowl game will be after a much better season than this one.  We have a year to get the offense installed; get bigger, faster, and stronger; and beat Michigan.  Don't think it would surprise anyone to see a #1 recruiting class in there too.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Right on!

I've already forgotten about this season and don't care what some necks or eSECpn hacks think. The BT hitting rock bottom might be the healthiest thing for the conference.

The JT era was awesome, but it became progressively clearer that the OL recruting & coaching really began to slide. Need to rebuild that part of the program. Under Meyer, everything should roll just fine.  

bobby_gunz's picture

i figured we'd open it up like the UM game.  What a disappointment

buckeyeEddie27's picture

if there is any silver lining at all......maybe this pisses urban off something fierce and he whips these so called buckeyes into shape.

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

Olentangy's picture

so apparently the team walked off the field and refused to sing carmen w the band and the cheerleaders...???

How firm thy friendship

BuckeyeChief's picture

Seriously?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Olentangy's picture

i really hope there is more to the story... i wasn't at the game but that's what i've heard.

How firm thy friendship

ih8rolltyde's picture

I was there, leaving in disgust, as the team walked off the field, no Carmen.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

joel121270's picture

Wow, I can say I truly thought this O staff woulda tried to go out with a bang but showed their same persistent stuborness. It was like Walrus was there thinking "I'll show em". I saw some wind so I don't know how much that played into the play calling but damn, we let it all out in scUM and go back to this crap. Good Riddens Walrus!!!

Baroclinicity's picture

All around bad.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Riggins's picture

Special Teams were "special" today. 

Goodbye incompetent coaches.  Die in a fire Walrusball.

J.B. Shugarts, you've ruined many livers with the "Shugarts Drinking Game". 

Honk if you sacked Braxton Miller.

Urban, here's the keys.

Seabass1974's picture

I hope the asshat in charge of sheduling the Big Ten bowl games (or picking them or whatever) all on the same day dies in a fiery carwreck. If I have to watch the Big Ten crash and burn in 5 damn games all in the same day and at the same time again someone's going to get hurt. At least schedule them one day at a time so we can bleed slowly and pretend we have a chance in every game coming up. LMAO.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

The Vest-er's picture

Wait, what happened. The doctors said I have been blacked out since memorial day. Did I miss something? And why should I like urban Meyer?

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

Normal Buck's picture

Don't ask any more questions. Just go with it!

bux_booster's picture

I know it did not seem like there was much of a chance, but as Jimmy V says, "Don't give up... don't EVER give up." Even with Braxton not getting out of bounds and keeping 30 seconds more on the clock, Florida kneed the ball on 3rd down with about 28 seconds left.  We should have called out last time out forcing them to turn it over on fourth down to us with maybe 15-20 seconds left.  This wasn't a blow out, there was time for 2-3 plays and with them in full prevent, things could have gone our way.  I know it was a long shot, but still, it is our last bowl for two years, don't EVER give up.

Olentangy's picture

ii thought the exact same thing. but then again that's expecting Luke to figure out what a TO is and how to appropriately use them. one final DERP.

How firm thy friendship

bux_booster's picture

In watching the end of the Wisconsin / Oregon game, the situation was very similar but different coaching decisions and urgency showed between the two games.

btalbert25's picture

There was plenty of blame to go around though.  Braxton missing a wide open Posey in the Endzone. Boom's fumble. Posey's fumble.  Horrible special teams, Braxton holding onto the ball way too long to get drilled.  Play calling was horrendous once again.  Really a draw play on 2nd long from about 85 yards away with 5 minutes left down by 14?   How many times in the last quarter especially that final drive did guys keep going down in bounds?  I was thinking WTF is going on here?   The whole game was a big cluster you know what.  May have been the most frustrating game I watched this year, because I was honestly expecting a big step forward. 

TatumRuled's picture

No more Shugarts; less yellow on the field.

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

BuckeyeChris's picture

Quick hitters:

Best game outta Sabino, yet. Nice to see he has that in him. 

Special teams were terrible...again. In fact, since TG, Jr. left, when has tOSU outplayed the other team on special teams?

Florida's offense is terrible, but that can only be overcome by playing a team as mistake prone and predictable on offense as tOSU. 

Our Oline was unfocused, slow and emotionless (per usual). 

We should probably temper our expectations for next year. This is a pretty average team, with a long way to go. 

And finally..... F5

Sgt. Elias's picture

You rang?

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

Hey I just read that Meyer yanked two coaches from Notre Dame.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Sources said today that it appears new Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer has filled his first Buckeyes coaching staff by raiding Notre Dame to lure two Ohio natives and college coaching veterans, Tim Hinton and Ed Warinner.

There was no official confirmation from Ohio State officials leading up to the Gator Bowl. But the Notre Dame website said that Hinton and Warinner had left to pursue other opportunities.

Does anybody know anything about this or these guys?

buckeyeEddie27's picture

howbout the first 7 loss season since 1897 thing.......havent verified it for myself....anyone know for sure?

 

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Yes...1999 was 6-6 and no bowl.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

cronimi's picture

I'd like to recognize future-former AD Gene Smith for bringing The Ohio State University to a new (old) era for Ohio State football, one not experienced for 114 years, where the football Buckeyes lose 7 games in a season. Yes, it would have been a damn shame for this Buckeye squad to miss a bowl game, they acquitted themselves so well in it. And next year's team -- they can suck it. Smith won't be around to experience the bowl ban himself.

Tim's picture

Born in November 1988, so this is the first time OSU has finished a season under .500 since that season.  I don't like it.  Can't wait until next season though...

3 Yards And A Cloud of Dust's picture

Same team, same coaches, same game plan - same results.  I dared to hope for something different.

Bu-Bye coach Bollman.  We have some lovely parting gifts for you and your "offensive" strategies.

I look forward - down the field - for Coach Meyer, the new coaching staff, the returning players and a great recuiting class.

Let's keep it professional Buckeye Nation.

243 days to a fresh start.

O-H!

Run_Fido_Run's picture

7 hours, 27 minutes until the Urban Meyer era officially begins.

Brutus's picture

I've never been less upset about a loss (and prior to this season I used to be devastated by losses).  I just don't care.  Don't care about the other bowl games.  Don't care how the B1G fared.  Don't care that we lost to an SEC team again.  This season is over and what happened on the field this year has no bearing on what will happen next year.  I'm not trying to put an optomistic spin on things.  I just don't care.  Time to focus sqaurely on the bball team and in a few months, start looking forward to football again.

 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I totally agree. We live in a short attention span world. Even if I cared what outsiders thought about Ohio State and the BT (I don't), they'll have forgotten all about 2011 when Meyer is dominating cfb in the not too distant future.  

USMCBUCKEYE82's picture

My thoughts exactly!!!

The Vest-er's picture

Feel the same way

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

NavyBuck's picture

I have had medical problems all year.  I have seen many doctors with no exact cure.  However, today I was relieved of all my pain - our season is over.  However, I am so excited for the future.  Terrell, I am still pissed at you.

 

"The Fan"

JozyMozy's picture

I hear you, bro. Kind of in the same boat. I hope the doctors can find some concrete answers for you. Feel better soon.

thatlillefty's picture

don't think he actually has a medical problem; it's the buckeyes' struggles are taking their toll

sathey's picture

Good bye to Jim Bollman, the douchbag video coordinator who coaches the QB's, the pathetic offensive line scheme, the Tat Five, and everything else Jim Tressel did to this program!

Doc's picture

Good riddance to this craptastic coaching staff. Down by two scores and still running the ball. Miller can throw, but not allowed to. Bollman I hope you choke on a fish bone you walrus.

Urban has his work cut out for him. This is an average team in need of coaching.

Sugars you suck!!!

"Say my name."

jedkat's picture

Hard to throw when your o-line has more crap run through it than a tourist's ass in Mexico.

“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren

Bucksfan's picture

This head referee in the MSU-UGA game is a riot.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

In better days, this MSU team would be, like, the 5th best team in the BT. That they're the second best team is very telling. 

That won't last thanks to Urban Renewal and, unfortunately, the resurrection of the skunkweasels under Jabba. When this caliber of MSU team is back in the Insight Bowl where they belong, the BT will be back. In the meantime, mad props to Sparty for hanging tough.     

Bucksfan's picture

We've been saying the B1G will be back for more than half a decade.  It seems to be getting worse.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Yes, it has gotten worse. But the coaching salaries are just now taking a big jump (in large part thanks to Urban Meyer). Plus, Meyer and Jabba, by themselves, should both be able to compete at the highest levels. Then, top 20 (but not top 10) programs like Nebraska, Wisconsin, MSU are punching in their appropriate weight classes, and occasionally some of the other programs will mix-in some peak years, etc.   

BuckeyeChief's picture

Nebraska and Penn State need to return to who they are, we need 2013 to get here now, and hope Wisky and (gulp) scUM stay where they are.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I suspect that PSU is about to hit another program slump, but it doesn't take a genius to win at Michigan. So, if Meyer is as good as we hope, those two power programs being dominant the same time should be enough to recharge the BT, provided that Wisc, Nebraska and MSU continue to be good, solid programs.   

btalbert25's picture

All Ohio State needs, is for Ohio State to be good.  It doesn't matter what the hell the rest of the conference does.  If Ohio State is blasting teams by 30-50 points every week, whether the B1G is elite or not doesn't matter, they'll still end up in the BCS title game, or be a top 4 if the plus one ends up being a final four type set up where the top basically have a playoff. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Obviously, that's the highest priority by a mile.

But some of us root for other BT teams when they're playing out of conference - not for BCS points or to shut up eSECpn hacks, but because they're kindred institutions, etc. Besides, a stronger conference will better prepare Ohio State for the post-season.  

Buckeye Chuck's picture

We finish with a 4-game losing streak, and Michigan was the only one where I came away even a little bit unsure that the better team lost. That's a tribute (if that's the right word) to what a horribly coached team this was.

If there's a sequence that sums this game up, it's the two sacks that ended our first drive, a drive that started with promise. But it seems like every time we strung together a few decent plays, Bollman insisted on dialing up something that emphasized our weaknesses and Florida's strengths, namely, their much greater relative speed on the edge.  The part of "SEC speed" that has hurt us in both our bowl games against Florida hasn't been their skill players vs. ours; it's been the inability of our slow-footed offensive line to handle their pass rush, and our problems with any play that depended the ability of our playmakers to beat their defenders around the corner. If we had just kept pounding the ball inside...

For all that, if Posey hangs on to the ball, if Miller doesn't airmail Posey on a fairly easy throw to the end zone, and if our special teams play is even remotely competent, we win without much trouble. At least we don't come away from this game like we did 5 years ago, wondering if we even belonged on the field with the Gators. But in some ways that makes it worse.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

cplunk's picture

Congratulations to all of us!! It is not often that you get to see something that hasn't happened since William McKinley was President! Awesome!! We are so lucky.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I believe that Stoneburner would have made a huge difference if he had played. That TD that shouldn't have been allowed was also a big difference.

Tressel is rolling over in his Vest with how bad the special teams were.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'm one of the biggest JT apologists on here, but the STs stunk last year, too. Plus, JT is ultimately responsible for that awful OL.

Riggins's picture

It's hard to argue that someone who caught 14 balls ALL SEASON would've made a huge difference. But when 7 of those 14 catchess went for TDs, it becomes a little easier to argue.  Seriously, did the coaching staff just not pick up on this stat?

That being said, I don't think it would change the outcome.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

They basically said f* stats, just run the ball.

Stoneburner gives them an extra receiver they desperately need.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Mike Adams - one of the Tat 5 members and a gift that just kepts giving!!! Thanks and nice f@#$ing blocking you idiot!!! You constantly had two people coming at you and you mind numbing chose to miss both every time.

Boom - again, thanks for the Tat 5 scandal and the suspensions!!! uYou're last present to Buckeye fans - a fat fumble that cost us yet again.

Posey - fantastic legacy you leave us with a 10 game suspension... just when you had a chance to actually payback Buckeye fans - you f@#$ing fumble!!!

Bollman - your last F@#$ing game and this is the game plan you came up with?!?!?!? I thought maybe I'd have something nice to say but after watching this game - all I can say is CLEAN OUT YOUR DESK AND GET THE F@#$ OUT OF YOUR OFFICE.

Braxton - learn how to throw the F@#$ing football... if I see you overthrow one more god damn wide open receiver I will personally jump on a plane, fly to Columbus and kick you in the filberts!!!

Yes - we've been through a bunch and thank god this season is over because I cannot take one more snap from this team right now... they gave up about 4 games ago and there is just not enough tequila to rinse out the taste of the last 11 1/2 months out of my mouth. 

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Buckeye in Athens's picture

Sorry but your Braxton comment is too much. Sure he had a few over throws, but he went 6/6 for 80 yards on the final possession and finished with a fairly excellent stat line. He received no help from an O-line that let guys through all day but still improved his decision making, wisely throwing the ball out of bounds on several occasions. His passes overall had a lot more zip than earlier in the season. In fact, when is the last time we ran a quick slants? Not to mention on the goal line? He looked great and will only improve. I'm ecstatic that he's leading our Buckeyes.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Maybe we were watching different games today - Braxton Miller SUCKED today!!! He held on to the ball way too long and was sacked 6 times!!! One of those I'll give him credit for because the line absolulely blocked nobody.  The other 5 times - it was all on Braxton.  He missed several throws today - including a WIDE open Posey.  Sorry, Braxton gets a big fat F today.  Yes, I know he is a freshman and yes, I know he has been the only shining light all year - however - today, he just plain sucked and since it is a ranting thread - I'm am tossing in my 2 dollars worth!  This team quit today and their performance was one of the worst I have seen from the Buckeyes over the last 15 years of so... If I were Urban - these guys would be doing gasers and stadium stairs all day until they puked.

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

slippy's picture

On the two sacks where they actually showed the WRs he had nowhere to go with the ball.  Lets put you back there and see how you do dude.

zosima's picture

Miller made lots of freshmen mistakes today, thank Pryor and JT if you are pissed... Miller should have been learning from a QB coach (JT)  this year, not thurst into the spotlight with a video coordinator as his expert advisor.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

He has been a QB for a long time prior to this year and now had 8 games experience at OSU - yes, he is a freshman and will make mistakes but what I'm talking about is his continued inability to get the ball to wide open receivers.  He has been tossing the football for many many years and he should not be lobbing balls that horridly over the head of wide open receivers.  I'm starting to question how accurate a passer he really is!  I agree that a ton of this comes down on Bollman and the cluster f@#$ that was our coaching staff - but in the end, it is Braxton seeing 4 wide open receivers (I'm just using the last 2 games worth) for easy TDs and he has just plain thrown bad passes. 

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Mush's picture

What's the inside scoop on why Heacock was not retained? I thought he hired Urban Warfare at Illinois State. Is Meyer looking for younger coordinators?

 

 

cplunk's picture

Have you seen the defense play this year?

Mush's picture

So we simply hand the reins to Fickell ??

ThirdLegLouie's picture

Fickell is Co-DC. Withers is the other. And if you think anything is going to be conducted on the field next year w/o Urban's touch on the "reins", you're crazy. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
Mush's picture

Is the combo of Fickell - Withers better than Heacock -Fickell ? I am not a buyer at this point. Most of Urban's time will be on the offensive side of the ball. I wonder if Heacock EVER was a candidate??? Did he want to move on or did Urban want to go in a different direction?

btalbert25's picture

All I keep hearing is how Urban retains members of the existing coaching staff if he believes they are worthy.  So either he didn't think  Heacock should stay or Heacock just doesn't want to be part of the staff.  Either way, I trust Meyer will replace him adequately.  I liked Heacock just fine, but perhaps it was just time to move on for him and the program.

Doc's picture

I have lost all confidence in Fickell.  After that piss poor showing bye HIS defense yesterday.  I have no confidence in Brah(Vrabel) either.  I'm guessing they will be on staff for another year and then Urbz gets rid of them.  I can't imagine the defense looking this badly.

I think we are more broke than we want to admit.

"Say my name."

F O U R's picture

Holmes.  They gave up ONE touchdown.  

21 of Florida's points came from special teams.

Doc's picture

They have looked like crap all season.  I'm sure I'm having a "sky is falling" reaction, but the defense and most especially the linebackers have regressed this year.

"Say my name."

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Congrats, Sparty. FGs rule! JT is proud.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Sparty wins, shockingly. If UM wins (which they should) and Wisconsin wins the Rose Bowl, the B1G can still go 5-5 in bowls. Yippee, I guess.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

btalbert25's picture

4-6 is respectable, Muck Fichigan I hope they get beat by 40

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Well Wisconsin folded like usual in the bowl game...

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

LadyBuck's picture

Can we just vacate everything but the Wisconsin win? Make it 1-0. 

Granted, our young guys are going to be terrors in the future with the amount of experience they got this year. I guess that's a plus.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

If so, can we also vacate the NCAA offices?

LadyBuck's picture

Only if we want another sanction thrown at us. ;)

Ethan's picture

Braxton Miller is incredibly talented. There's no debating that. But his complete inability to get rid of the ball KILLED us today. Not like the O-Line was doing a great job in pass protection, but he has to get rid of the ball quicker. You can say there are "coverage sacks" if you take two or three sacks. When you have six or seven, that's on the quarterback. Braxton's mistakes are correctable, but his penchant for holding onto the ball hurt us today.

Zach Boren missed a couple of big blocks today. He seemed to have a rare down game.

Bollman's offensive gameplan was a complete joke. Why, after seeing what your offense could do against Michigan, would you draw up a droll, uninspired gameplan? Completely inexcusable. Good riddance. 

Hard to be upset about the defense's performance. Allowing 10 points should allow your team to win. Simon, Hankins, and Roby all looked really good today. Hopefully between Nathan Williams, Adolphus Washington, and Noah Spence, we can get a consistent pass rush next year. 

All things considered, let's just wash our hands of this miserable season and get excited about the Urban Era. There's a lot to look forward to with him at the helm! O-H!

slippy's picture

He had no one to pass to on most of the sacks.  I agree, a few were his fault but when our only pass plays are screens or 30 yards downfield it doesnt help the QB.

 

Also, the defense really only gave up 3 points.  I cannot believe that TD catch was not reviewed.  Not to say they wouldn't have scored on that drive but that's a terrible failure by the refs.

Seabass1974's picture

Well thanks to the Big Ten today (some teams winning that shouldn't and others losing that shouldn't) I am now out of the running for the Archie Griffin autographed helmet. F-U BIG TEN. HAHA.

 

- IO!!!

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

flipbuckeye's picture

How did we beat Wisconsin...

Run_Fido_Run's picture

You beat me to the punch. I was just about to ask how the h--- did we beat 'em? More specifically, how in the h--- did our defense shut them down for 3.5 Qs?  

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Because there's talent on it? Same thing happened with nebraska. Only difference is Braxton didn't get hurt.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Bucksfan's picture

We have a defense.

cplunk's picture

No, we really don't.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

By Ohio State standards, no, we did not have a defense this year. But I'm optimist. The Silver Bullets will be back in full force next year.

Bucksfan's picture

Sorry, they were a top-25-ish defense in both points and yards/game...which is decent.  Doesn't account for losing 7 games.

LadyBuck's picture

The Football Gods was just having fun with Bucky. That, and crowd was absolutely electric. 

pasadenabuck's picture

So glad this trainwreck of a season is over. It can only get better from here on out.

I usually root for the Big Ten in bowl games but I seriosly hope that Va. Tech destroys the yellow and blue...

A fool and his money are soon parted.I would pay anyone a lot of money to explain that to me. -Homer Simpson

3 Yards And A Cloud of Dust's picture

Agreed - regardless of circumstances, I cannot support TTUN.

BuckeyeNation's picture

I blame Dale Earnhardt Jr., though i think even he could've called a better game!

robcard2's picture

Imagine that. Ohio gets two coaches the past month. one of them is dedicated to recruiting and the other to coaching. And THAT was the best performance it could put on the field? Embarassment to the B1G today...

Pam's picture

Wrong blog. Ohio won their bowl and they are in the MAC.

Baroclinicity's picture

Gettin' a lot of mileage out of one win.  And they seem to forget the spanking they took last year from Miss. St.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

The Vest-er's picture

Give it a day, then you'll see a real embarrassment to the B1G

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

dancorona5's picture

Sums up how i feel right now. Good thing there is a lot to look forward to!

AcrossTheField11's picture

just got word from a buddy whose brother is in tbdbitl that the players walked off the field in the middle of Carmen Ohio.  unforgivable.

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

moopdawg's picture

I really do not want to believe this to be true.  On the positive, I read on another message board that Coach Meyer has called for a 7a.m. team meeting tomorrow.  Hopefully, a firm positive tone will be set.  

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Since a group hug is probably not in the picture - perhaps a boat load of gasers and stadium stairs are in order...

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

buckeyedude's picture

I heard Josh Groban's, "You raise me up" really works well in these situations.

 

 

BoFuquel's picture

Went to the Ladies basketball game.Football sucks and will forever more.Come on 12-21-2012.

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

The world better not end this year.  We can't go out like this.  And If we ever wear a chrome helmet.... I give up.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

I can handle an economic collapse.... but a losing record. Hell no!

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Orlando Buckeye's picture

Well, we lost "the bowl that never should have been"©.  2011 couldn't have been a worse year.  6-7 and I turned 30.  Here's to 2012.

Seabass1974's picture

and the End of the World, on 21 Dec 2012.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

Orlando Buckeye's picture

That would be a stinger.

LABuckeye's picture

Orlando... I had a crisis when I turned 30 which is how I ended up in California. Don't worry... I think most people believe their 30's are far better than their 20's. Think (for most) better career opportunities, better finances, still having your health...

The Braden's picture

I turned 40. 

Go Buckeyes, forever and always.

Buckeyejason's picture

Not surprised at all..same shit all year. Great game seniors..great game. Won't miss ya! Can't wait till a competent QB coach works with Braxton, holds the ball to long in the Pockett and overthrows way too much. Good bye old Buckeye era.

BUCKEYES BABY!

matti's picture

cant wait till the spring game ..

ither thought bollman please do not even take the plane back just stay there u retarded walrus

Buckeyejason's picture

I'm soo sick of this team and the players on it! Makes me sick! Losing my love for the Buckeyes after watching a season like this with a bunch of non inspired, careless, no pride losers!

BUCKEYES BABY!

Defend Youngstown's picture

Jesus, that is the most depressing video I have ever seen.

LABuckeye's picture

That's pretty sickening. Good for Nate Williams, though.

zosima's picture

Lots of players just fell off my "favorite Buckeyes" list.. think its down to Nate and Tyvis Powell

AcrossTheField11's picture

Mine is down to Aaron Craft.

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

shadedred's picture

I believe Shazier was there too.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Yup. A fucking freshman gets it over seniors. And since he's not a player I don't mind giving a big "fuck you" to Fickell. This falls on him more than anybody.

JakeBuckeye's picture

God bless you, Nathan Williams.

I have always been 100% against the "fuck these players" attitude in the college game, but this team is the closest I've ever gotten to that sentiment. Still, no, but God bless you Nathan.

poop's picture

ESPN's final words on the Gator Bowl highlights: "Speed kills speed kills speed kills." Which is why Oregon has won the last 4 National Championships.

buckeyedude's picture

Watched the end of the MSU/Georgia game and the first half of the Rose Bowl, and all four teams and Florida looked better prepared to play than the Buckeyes.

Even the announcers in the Gator Bowl commented on how conservative the play calling was, when OSU was already way behind! I think everybody on Florida's defense knew what play was coming 95% of the time...as if Florida had the OSU playbook. Nothing new there, though.

Just pathetic.

And that Russell Wilson is quite a good QB, how we beat Wisc., I don't know.

 

 

rkylet83's picture

I'm pretty disapointed mostly because I never seen an Ohio State team care so little and play with so little intensity. Coach Meyer has his work cutout for him to motivate these guys...

Lost nut in Michigan's picture

do you think Urban was laughing or crying today

 

Lost Nut in Michigan

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I can pretty much guess he took some mental notes and will start kicking some asses starting tomorrow given the uninspired performance they tossed out there today.  I'm guessing that lack of intensity and 'woe is me' attitude will be officially killed quickly.

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

rkylet83's picture

I dont think either. He was probably pissed off and ready to hammer these players as soon as possible. I have a feeling their about to get a big wake up call very soon!!!

Brutus's picture

Anyone else notice the stat on the ESPN ticker right after posting the Gater Bowl score.  It reads as follows:

Big Ten: 1-3 in first 4 games Monday (outscored 114-77), 0-5 in bowl games last Jan. 1 (outscored 204-102).

Why is this relevant? I haven't seen a single stat about another conference. Anyone who thinks that ESPN doesn't have a  huge anti-B1G bias, at least in football, is delusional.  I was slow to buy into the 'ESPN feels challenged by the BTN' conspiracy, but how else do you explain this?  Serious question.  Why else would ESPN harp on the point that the B1G sucks.  Everyone pretty much agrees, even those in the B1G, so why keep saying it?

LABuckeye's picture

I'm starting to come around, too. I've been pretty astonished at what has been coming out of espn lately.

Defend Youngstown's picture

Want to shut them up? Win games. I'm just about as sick as everyone complaining about ESPN as I am about ESPN pretending to be a journalistic entity. Facts are facts, the B1G ate a big bag of dicks last year.

Brutus's picture

Agreed. And I'm not complaining about ESPN.  That would be like complaining that Fox News has a conservative slant.  I'm actually one of the few that tried to believe that ESPN doesn't have an agenda to promote, but that's obviously not the case.  If this is a BTN thing, then I think it's pathetic that a media giant like ESPN would even pay attention to the BTN.  Neither the BTN nor the B1G pose any threat to ESPN whatsoever, so why bother continuing to state the obvious that the B1G sucks. 

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Absolutely couldn't agree more. Those are the facts, and I don't see how it's wrong for ESPN to report them. I'd like to believe they'd report it if the SEC was in the same position, but maybe they wouldn't. Does it really matter?

Either way, I would think the takeaway message is the BT needs to do better in bowl games. And maybe send fewer teams to bowl games so that our teams aren't always underdogs.

cplunk's picture

I don't care if the Big Ten goes 1-9 in bowls every year. I only care about the one win being Ohio State. I'm not a BIg Ten fan. Conference rooting is crap.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Completely agree.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

onetwentyeight's picture

Well complaining about bias and actively giving FUEL and EVIDENCE to this point of view are two different things. If the B1G went 5-0 or whatever and ESPN ignored it or used a bogus statistic or whatever okay then they're wrong. But just because ESPN might be slanted doesnt mean, in this instance, that they are wrong. The B1G DOES suck. Do other conferences like the ACC suck more and never get called out for it? Of course. That's the Bias part. But why bitch and moan about it when ... we really DID go 1-3 Monday and are CONFIRMING what they believe about the B1G being atrocious? 

It's very simple. Stop sucking and THEN cry about espn bias. Nobody will care if you cry about unfair coverage when its TRUE.

ANd for me, I'm only upset at the OSU loss today. I'm done trying to root for our fellow B1G institutions and then watching them get embarassed because they SUCK. I've had enough suck for one season and I wanna go back to rooting for OSU without worrying whether or not Sparty Sparty-ed again or if Northwestern got their first bowl win since the FDR administration. Screw those guys. We got Urban. I expect World Domination in 2013. Let's see ESPN try to "BIAS" or "SPIN" that when we go scorched earth on the B1G and curbstomp whatever SEC team is unfortunate enough to face us in the MNC. 

 

poop's picture

Good post. If you want to be a B1G fan, then stock up on Paxil or Prozac or something. The conference is garbage and ESPN is going to bring that fact to light every chance they get. Just worry about your team and leave the conference pride thing to the yokels down south.

LABuckeye's picture

It's not about conference pride... it's about not becoming Boise State where you have an undefeated season and the question is "Who did they play?"

poop's picture

We're almost there. Inching closer. Seriously.

btalbert25's picture

In 2002 and 2006 they said it, despite both years beating pretty solid teams like Wazzou, Texas, and Michigan.  Folks in other conferences are always going to say that especially that conference in the southeast.  The B1G, in my opinion is stronger now than it had been in the past.  Wisconsin and MSU are on their way up.  Nebraska and Michigan will be strong teams too.  Ohio State will be back soon.  

This conference is still better than the Big East and on par with if not better ACC. PAC 10 had 3 pretty good teams this year but that was it. Once Michigan and Ohio State are both relevant again, the whole conference looks better.  What helps is that Sparty and Wisconsin are strong too.  Nebraska, while not having a great season this year, is a solid addition to the conference.  This is nowhere near the level of competition in the WAC or Sunbelt or MAC or Big East even.

Talking heads on the 4 letter and SEC fans are never going to give Ohio State props for winning or any achievement they may get.  We'll always hear, yeah but who did they beat.  Or sure they won by 50 but they did play Indiana etc.  

LABuckeye's picture

I'm not saying the B1G outright sucks... what I was saying is I don't understand not rooting for your conference. The quality of your conference directly and indirectly affects what happens with your team. We should all be rooting for B1G teams to win inter-conference games. I guess you can debate Michigan, but I pull for them, too.

btalbert25's picture

My position always has been, if you are Ohio State, Michigan, or pretty much any other B1G school and you go undefeated you are playing for a National Title, and it really doesn't matter if Northwestern wins 8 games or not.  I wouldn't mind seeing some B1G schools win, but if they don't, I really don't care.  Ohio State impacts Ohio State more than any other program.  If you want the B1G to win in bowls more power to you, I just don't see how the The b1G going 0-10 or 10-0 has an impact on Ohio State Next year and the bowl games next season have no impact on the regular season in 2013. 

If Ohio State comes out and crushes everyone, they are making the national title game.  If the B1G actually comes out and wins non conference games next season, it's more impactful than winning bowl games this season. 

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Well said - I could care less what happens to the rest of the BT - except for Ann Arbor Community College - I hope they lose by 50 every game!  As depressing as this game, and pretty much the entire season has been - we have witnessed the LAST game that has Jim Bollman butchering our offense!!!  For that, I will be happy!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Run_Fido_Run's picture

You're mixing-up who does what, which seems to be a typical mistake whenever this topic comes up.

You're absolutely right that if any players, coaches, or other personnel (from Ohio State or other BT schools) who are directly responsible for the team's performance complained about eSECpn bias, etc., that'd be unmanly and, more importantly, not productive. It's up to them to stop sucking, which is the only way that they can expose and combat such biases and/or perceptions. As JT would say, dwelling on such matters is a distraction.

We, on the other hand, are fans/consumers who have no direct impact on the games - i.e., we can't "stop sucking," unless by that we mean stop sitting on our hands or something. It's actually our job not so much to complain about eSECpn bias, but to watch that channel less often, not visit their websites - i.e., send negative feedback that will (ever so slightly) cut into espn's bottom-line. In that sense, our "complaining" at least has the potential of being productive (assuming that fans really put their money where there mouths are).      

johnblairgobucks's picture

Does that mean I can't watch John Anderson on WIPEOUT?

 

btalbert25's picture

Whining about ESPN on a message board though, is different than the complaining you are talking about.  When grown adults piss and moan about ESPN being mean to their favorite team it just sounds stupid. 

I do agree though, that as consumers if you aren't happy about what's being said or put out there by ESPN, don't run to their website to see what they are saying about Ohio State every time an Ohio State related story comes out.  Don't get on their message boards and complain, don't listen to, call in or email their radio programming.  If you are that passionate about hurting ESPN, send letters to their sponsors.  Send the local ABC affiliate and cable company mail  and all the sponsors on those affiliates and tell them you won't buy their products, continue your cable service, or tune into any kind of game jthat is part of ESPN's coverage on your local affiliate. Those actions may not be that impactful but if enough fans do it, yes it will make a difference.  Also, it's a hell of a lot more impactful than simply bellyaching about ESPN non stop.  It's a lot easier to rant and rave and come up with conspiracy theories though. 

I also think ESPN is probably pretty savy with blogs and message boards of popular teams in sports.  A very successful blog like this one is surely going to have folks from ESPN monitoring what's going on.  They can read the comments here every day and know that if  someone on their website comes up with something about Ohio State, it's going to generate a ton of hits because people will flock to ESPN's site, link it on this board an others, then say OMG CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST LINK ON ESPN'S site.  

ESPN does have a slant, and they are profiting off of it because they have their fan base that they cater too, they need one who views them as the villain.  Ratings are much better when you play the 2 most popular conferences in college sports off of eachother.  

I'm certainly not telling people how to think or what to say or do, I just do believe it gets to sounding pretty pathetic when every day, no matter what the blog post is about, we'll have several comments blaming ESPN or the SEC for everything that's wrong in the world.  Sometimes, it comes totally out of left field.  We can be talking about anything on here and all the sudden if ESPN didn't hate Ohio State.....  OVERSIGNING RABBLE RABBLE! Derp fans in the SEC....

This is a long post and I apologize, but as a fan base, we are better than the constant bitchfest we get every day.  If you don't like what's being said about the program take action and actually do something.  You could easily draft up a template for an email to send to sponsors and such and send them out.  It would probably take less time every day than most of us spend on 11W.  

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Good points, but consider that espn's decades of marketing, branding, "messaging," etc. the network as the "worldwide leader" and objective cfb flagship has generated far more (positive) exposure than the counter-messaging that eSECpn has its own agenda, bias, and whatnot. Some consumers are easily swayed by such messaging, so as long as the "complaining" doesn't turn off those consumers we are trying to influence (so that they'll begin to see eSECpn in a more negative light), then it can be necessary and productive. For example, one effective strategy is to incessantly ridicule a media "target" like eSECpn. One goal might be to turn the eSECpn brand into a running joke.

I do, feel, however, that eSECpn model has some potential weaknesses. Almost all the bowl games are on that network right now - i.e., they're risking market (over)saturation. Their keystone product, the SEC, is probably approaching an unsustainable place. I mean, do you think Tex AM fans will be happy winning the SEC every 15 years or so? If they pay every coach in the league $4 million/year, well, they can't all win enough games to justify their salaries, can they? The geographical footprint of the SEC is relatively light on t.v. sets, so they must sell the SEC as a trans-regional product, but fans outside the SE get bored with Bama v. LSU rematches, etc. I could go on and on, but my point is that very large mega-organizations/companies like Disney/ABC/espn often become vulnerable over time.             

Brutus's picture

Holy sh--, i'm sorry I brought it up. Didn't whine, didn't complain, didn't accuse ESPN for making OSU and the B1G suck. And from what I can tell, no one after me whined or complained either. I was just pointing out that ESPN felt the need to single out the B1G for seemingly no good reason. If they were keeping a running tally of conference bowl records on the ticker, that would be one thing. It is not newsworthy that the B1G sucks this year. It is even considerably less newsworthy to point out the B1G's bowl record from last year. I think it's laughable that ESPN is this fixated on the B1G. It makes no sense.

btalbert25's picture

Brutus, I wasn't really directing it at you, just the topic got me to thinking about it.  If you frequent the site, which you do, you probably know what I'm talking about.  Seems like for the last couple of years, and especially since March or so it's just gotten worse and worse.  It just gets old is all.  Again, I wasn't directing that huge post at you, just thinking out loud really. 

Brutus's picture

And my post wasn't directed at you either. My intent was only to point out what I thought was a gratuitous dig at the B1G, which to me is about as relevant as pointing out that the Big East sucks or that the SEC is really good. But in doing that, many seem to interpret that as complaining or making excuses. I personally don't care much for conference loyalty. I'm glad MSU won today and thrilled that Wisconsin lost. That has nothing to do with the conference though. I like Dantonio and hate Bielema. That's about as much thought as I put into the conference loyalty thing. Will be rooting strongly against scUM tomorrow as well.

johnblairgobucks's picture

The better team won.

OSU has lots of work to do.

OSU right now isn't a top 40 program.

Better find some linebackers and offensive lineman, or we will repeat this season.  Worst LBers since ?

How many false starts did shugarts have in his career?

Lowest OSU program has been, since bowl loss to airforce.

Time to step it up.

ih8rolltyde's picture

I agree that this team sucked. A lot. But there is no way you can list 40 better programs than THE Ohio State University's.

40 better teams, for just this year? Maybe. No way 40 better programs.

I am not trying to be a dick, but we got a boatload of talent coming back and one of the best coaches in the county taking over as I type. We did have guys that quit this year, but I bet Urbz shores that up real quick.

Top 15 team next year. Title contender the year after. Mark it down.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

johnblairgobucks's picture

Well if your not judging a program on what it is doing now, what are you judging it on?  The past 20 years, where none of the coaches or the players are part of it?  Or are you basing OSU top 15, because their current depth chart fields a team that went 6-7?  OSU is who they became, because of the decisions they made and atitudes they carried.  They are 40th or 50th in the Nation. 

Hopefully Meyer gets the job done, but there needs a roster infusion performed.

 

If I look at a team that has serious OL issues, wide recievers who can't get open, poor special teams and slow Linebackers, I'ld say I was watching....what?

biggy84's picture

Is there anyone left who wishes Fickell was kept as the HC?

Buckeyeneer's picture

Our coaches were in over their heads again. Man I am tired of Fickell's blank stare anytime some adversity is thrown our way.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

poop's picture

Is Natty Light as pure as a mountain stream?

kmp10's picture

I know this won't be popular, but IMO Luke Fickell is nowhere near head coach material.  I'm sure he's a great guy, as many have said in support of him, and I know he was asked to deal with a difficult situation this season, but today was embarrassing (as were the games against Miami, MSU, Nebraska, Toledo, and Purdue).  The offense was abysmal... as usual, the defense looked slow and too often out of position, and special teams were disgusting.  How, with five weeks to prepare for a team that could manage only to beat Vanderbilt and a 1AA oponent in its last six games, could this team perform so poorly?  

 

tedglover's picture

You know, this doesn't even bother me.  There is a lot of raw talent on this team, and I believe that Urban will harvest it.

I am both surprised and yet not shocked by Bollman's play calling.  I thought after Miller lit up Michigan he'd let him loose, a la Pryor in the Rose Bowl a couple years back, but his conservative nature took over.

And that ended with this game.

We have some great defensive line prospects coming in, a great RB prospect, a whole off season for Urban to work with Braxton Miller, and there is too much talent on the defensive side that a good d-coordinator will get them back to their typical Silver Bullet self.

This became a lost season as soon as Tressel got canned and Pryor left, so although I'm disappointed, I firmly believe that UM will bring us back next year.

jmoody's picture

Is Fickell a good D coordinator?

"Did you push yourself to be great today? If you didn't do it you lost a day. We ain't got many days to lose. We're going to push your a$$ like its never been pushed because what you've got in you were going to find out" UFM

monugs's picture

good riddance jim bollman....

poop's picture

We need a punt/kick returner asap. Jordan Hall is slowwwwwwwwwww. Where are our athletes?

Lost nut in Michigan's picture

It was not that long ago, when we had an Oline and DLine that was tremendous, I do want to thank JT and the Tats from all they have done.

Lost Nut in Michigan

bucknut24's picture

Just a thought but if you look at what Tressel recruited as a base (3 star) they were no better than MAC talent and that explains why we suck OOC.

cplunk's picture

Nah, those star rankings don;t mean a thing. How many of those "3 star" guys are in the NFL. If we had MAC talent, why do we have more NFL players than every team but Miami? We have the talent, always have. Its coaching, pure and simple.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Wow Wisconsin, NOTHING to complain about there. You pissed away that game, pure and simple, and the decision to spike the ball there was just the icing on your shitcake.

Baroclinicity's picture

I had visions of the third down clock stop...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

The fact that it was being reviewed made me wonder if they thought more time should have been on the clock or something. Otherwise, the clock was at 0 by the time Russel got the ball, much less had a chance to spike it.

But, frankly, with TOs on their last two posessions, Wisconsin has no business complaining about this costing them the game. Even if it had been closer than it actually was.

Bucksfan's picture

Even moreso, Wisconsin didn't bring a defense to Pasadena.  You have to give Oregon credit where credit is due.  Their system CRUSHES average defenses.  When they run into an NFL-calibur roster like LSU, Ohio State, or USC, they can't get it done.  Wisconsin's defense was underwhelming this year...big drop off from last season.  The key to beating Oregon, who doesn't boast a good defense, either, is to pin them down and control the clock.  You can't expect to outscore them.

johnblairgobucks's picture

Straight.  You need a top notch DL to control Oregon (Heyward, Gibson, etc..) and quality linebackers who play assignment football.   LSU, Ohio State, Auburn and Boise St. (yes Boise has a quality DL)  all controlled Oregon's Offense. You cannot stand up as a defensive lineman and clog the holes that Oregon exploits.  You have to create piles on the ground/ masses of humanity/get dirty.  Wisconsin defense was overmatched.

ERIC OSU's picture

Have you ever seen a less explosive return unit than the last 4 years of what we've had to endure... what happened to ATHs coming to play here? Thats why we can flip the momentum.

 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

New OL coach (Ed Warriner?) will have some good talent to work with, but not much depth:

Brian Bobek (C), Tommy Brown (OG), Chris Carter (OG), Marcus Hall (OT), Corey Linsley (OG), Jack Mewhort (OG), Andrew Norwell (OT), Antonio Underwood (OG), Reid Fragel (OT, converting from TE).

Need OTs. They've tried to play Carter and Hall there, but probably better suited to play inside.

Still, the Brew Crew did not play well this year, so I could easily see marked improvement next year as long as they stay relatively healthy.

Junior Samples's picture

Special Teams failures are usually due to a lack of effort. That's exactly what it looked like to me.  I thought the effort would be there, even if it was only to impress the new coach. I'd like to be a fly on the wall if Meyer sits them down to watch this game film.

Still can't belive that the Columbus Ink Crew got to play in a bowl game their senior year, but Zach Boren and many others will not.

LouGroza's picture

Look at it this way. Those outside game-changing speed guys Florida had, Urban recruited. Minus their wonderful personalities, that will be Buckeyes doing that in years to come! You gotta see the light men.

Brutus's picture

I sincerely hope you're right about the "minus their wonderful personalities". This is my biggest concern about Meyer. He recruits talent, but talent of extremely questionable character. The player(s) who supposedly called Moeller a cracker today was very likely recruited by Meyer. I hope that now that he's in a new environment and recruiting heavily from a different region, he'll recruit fewer (hopefully zero) criminals.

zosima's picture

I have been trying very, very hard not to think about this very point ever since Meyer was named HC.

Bucksfan's picture

Brutus, I hate to use all caps on this, but it can't be stated any other way:  JIM TRESSEL'S STAR PLAYERS TOOK IMPROPER BENEFITS THREE SEPARATE TIMES FROM 2003 TO 2009, A PROBLEM THAT ALSO OCCURRED DURING HIS DAYS AT YSU.  THE THIRD AND FINAL TIME HE KEPT THE INFORMATION TO HIMSELF, LIED ABOUT IT TO THE NCAA, AND NOW THE PROGRAM IS PLAYING A POINTLESS SEASON DOWN 9 SCHOLARSHIPS OVER THE NEXT 3 YEARS.

When it comes to questionable people doing questionable things in college football, it doesn't matter if you look and talk like fucking Mr. Rogers or if you yell "Yippie Kay Yay, Motherfucker" to Erin Andrews after a win like John McClane.  Jim Tressel had all the other major problems of major programs - kids getting in trouble with weed, suspensions for DUI's, arrests for burglary, etc.  Remember when Brandon Spikes gouged that Georgia player's eyes during the Cocktail Party?  Pretty f'cked up, right?  Remember when Robert Reynolds choked Jim Sorgi in Madison in 2003?  We'll call it a push.

Let's leave the moral superiority at the door, shall we?  Ohio State is not a model of class at this point in our history.

Brutus's picture

I hate to use all caps on this but LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS.  Where do you get moral superiority from my post? Where did I imply that Tressel was somehow better/different than Meyer? My point is simple, Meyer had quite a few arrest and discipline problems at Florida.  I'm just hoping the same pattern doesn't hold at Ohio State.

 

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

i don't see Meyer putting up with any crap while on probation. He does not strke me as foolish.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Does anybody know what happened to Rod Smith?  All I heard was that he missed the flight.  Is there any other back story to this yet?

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onetwentyeight's picture

Weedem reminds me of a Todd Boeckman v 2.0 (even does the red puffy face squinty eyes when under pressure thing)

 

That is all. 

zosima's picture

My big question is... 'sup with Shazier?  No doubt he is a beast (unless you are reading this, Ryan, in which case you are horrible and the only way you can prove me wrong is to win the Nagurski, Lott, and Heisman trophies next year).  But it is really obvious his knee hampered him the last two games.  Its a long off-season to recover, but the last Silver Bullet to impress me the way Shazier did this year was Moeller, and he was never the same after his torn pectoral... hope to see Shazier bounce back next year.

ThirdLegLouie's picture

I don't put a lot of faith in Shazier's own assessments of his ability to play today. (90% going into the game, 70% after the fumble recovery play, etc. ) Bottom line is he had a sprained MCL during the UM game and he has never, to date, taken the time to recover, meaning he has yet to be close to full strength since the UM game.

 

Severity of the injury is much less than in Moeller's case and not a good comparison. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
Poison nuts's picture

Just got home after a 6 hour drive from the game or I would have been on here asap. I sat directly behind the team (ours) right right up front at about the 30 and here are my notes:

1. Florida's only offensive td was not a td. You may already know that. Fickell tried to challenge, called a TO 5-10 seconds before the point after play and was ignored. He ran out onto the field screaming for a TO. The back judge saw him and ignored him. I saw it - it sucked.

2. There were plenty of tOSU fans at this game and on the whole - we blew as a crowd. I don't give a shit that it wasn't a good bowl game to have to go to - scream and cheer as though it's a NC game goddammit!

3. The O Line really played horrendous football today. For those saying Braxton played poorly, cut him a bit of slack..he was given very very little help today.

4. Our guys were not coached up at all. Maybe thats because some people are headed out the door, but I watched that sideline closely and there was never much life there from the coaching staff.

5. Special teams Ssssuuuuuuuccccckkkkkkeeeedddd!!! But you already know that.

Theres no point in mentioning the play calling...everyone saw it. Players not sticking around for Carmen? Wow. I hope and expect things to change & change quickly...but hey, my team lost, they had a really rough year, but I'm still breathing so things aren't too bad.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

GoBucksArchie45's picture

Where the hell is the defense on third down? This has been a huge problem for this defense all year. This was not a good defensive team. They had too many missed tackles, penalties, etc...I miss the Silver Bullets.

As for Bollman and Shuggarts please let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Bweik70

Doc's picture

There is absolutely NO reason for not singing Carmen Ohio after the game.  NONE!  If this is the attitude of the team and coaches we are fubared.  Fickell, Vrabel and the under classmen at least should have sung.  No excuse at all.  I hope Urban chews these guys a new asshole this morning.  They deserve nothing less.

"Say my name."

ThirdLegLouie's picture

^this. can't believe fickell dropped the ball so bad. obviously, zero leadership from any coaches that were there. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
Doc's picture

This is why I think we are in for a long rebuild.  I can't believe Fick and Brah didn't kick those guys in the ass and get them back out there singing.  Granted, it can be percieved as a silly song that has nothing to do with the game itself.  To me it runs deeper.  These guys are supposed to be "all in" for tOSU.  Didn't Tressel instill this into these guys?  Does one year unravel all that?  Will Urban have a hard time winning over the locker room?  It just seems to me that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

"Say my name."

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'm not worried. There is no excuse for that behavior and Meyer will hold them accountable, but they are college kids leaving the field after a very difficult 12+ month period.

No question in my mind, Urban Meyer will win over the locker room, even if he has to clear out half of that locker room to win the other half.   

Doc's picture

I hope you are right Fido.  It was just a very hard game to watch.  UF being a 6-6 team coming in looked a lot better than that.  They looked extrememly fast and well coached.  We, on the other hand, did not.  I'm sure Meyer will straighten things out quickly.  It can't be worse than the 2-9 BGSU squad he inherited, right?

"Say my name."

btalbert25's picture

I agree. I think he's going to get a handle on things immediately.  If players don't like it, theres the door, and please leave quickly so we can use your scholarship to bring in guys who do want to be here.  I can't say I'm surprised Fickell didn't put a boot in anyone's ass for their actions though, he seemed to be lacking much emotion all year.  He's probably just glad it's all over.  Despite a couple guys being retained, yesterday's game was being coached by a lameduck staff. 

I'm a bit suprised the Jr's and Sr's especially those who landed Ohio State in all this mess didn't play more inspired yesterday, but it was kind of a fitting end to a horrible season.  I don't think we'll ever see a team under Meyer play like this.  He may lose games, but it won't be because of lack of effort or desire out there.

bassplayer7770's picture

One word I've heard from a couple players about Meyer is "intense," so I think you guys are right that Urban will get things under control and get the respect in the locker room.  I just hope he can land a couple more recruits in the biggest areas of need.  We shall see.

Happy Urban Day, everybody!

doodah_man's picture

It's a tradition...and it wasn't a tradition until Tressel started it. It is a good tradition and I am surprised that they all didn't walk off on a few other occasions. Imagine busting your but all season in practice and then having the worse game of your life in front of 105,000 in the shoe...then having to sing Carmen Ohio. I love the song, I love my school, and I love the tradition. Maybe this time we give them a pass....

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

doodah_man's picture

As a way of confessing, after the Bucks performance yesterday and the lackluster performance of the other B1G teams...I have (squirming) no other choice (choke, gasp) than to (small amount of vomit in back of throat) cheer for (mother tearing up birth certificate)....Michigan tonight (kissing my sister).

May God have mercy on my soul....

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

I'm happily done with 2011's football Bucks.   I think the turnaround started this morning at 7 am.   A new voice, a new attitude, a new everything.   Sometimes things just get "stale", whether it be the message or the guys delivering the message and they need to be changed up.   Would have loved to be a fly on the wall this morning at that team meeting.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

One lesson I take away from this fiasco of a season - coaching matters A GREAT DEAL!!!  I know its not a 'brilliant lightbulb on' type observation, but it really came to the surface during yesterday's debacle.  I arrogantly thought that given the talent we had and it is, after all, THE Ohio State University, we would have a decent season.  Sadly, I grossly underestimated the importance of a person in charge that had a clue.  We went from 12 - 1 and a great victory over Arkansas to 6 - 7, a dysfunctional and lost on both sides of the ball, and no motivation and/or inspiration what-so-ever in a few months time after Tressel left.  It was an eye opening season to watch how totally horrid our team played and I am still shocked at how we managed to beat anybody!

Having said that, the opposite is true.  Urban Meyer KNOWS how to coach and win football games.  He is putting together a group of coaches that will surely compliment his coaching prowess.  As far as we fell this year will only be equaled by how far we rise this coming season.

Braxton took a big step backwards yesterday and it was frustrating to watch but as many have pointed out on these boards, the lack of a quality QB coach and a horrid offensive coordinator left this kid twisting in the wind.  After an entire day of watching offenses like Stanford, Oregon, Wisc, and Okie State - the difference in coaching leadership was as different as night and day!  The one thing Tressel was brilliant at was finding a weakness and putting together the plan to exploit it. 

I see great things coming this next season under the leadership of Urban and his new coaching staff.  It appears the players are ready to get back to work as well!

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Iron_Buckeye's picture

This years version of the the Buckeyes lacked intensity, focus and consistency. I'm underwhelmed with this season but overjoyed with anticipation of the years to come under Urbz.

Ding Dong the Walrus is gone!!!

“The minute we stop expecting greatness from our football program, we become Wisconsin.” Craig Krenzel