Tuesday Skull Session

By Danny on November 22, 2011 at 6:00a
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Good morning Buckeye faithful and welcome to your Tuesday Skull Session.

This week is important to Ohio State students for many different reasons, including a long break from school, seeing family on Thanksgiving, and of course, the next chapter of the OSU-Michigan rivalry unfolding before their eyes.

While I can't express in words how much I love all of these things, there is one tradition which takes place this week that I must hold in higher regard than everything just mentioned. That tradition is the Mirror Lake Jump.

The first ever Mirror Lake Jump took place in 1990, when members of OSU's marching band lead the first ever plunge into the man-made lake. Today, the jump is a ceremonial gathering of thousands of students who forget about their Wednesday morning classes in order to celebrate the biggest game of the season, and the greatest rivalry in sports.

But Mirror Lake Night is more than just another excuse to get a little inebriated and blow off some steam. This tradition has continued for so long because it is a way for all Ohio State students to get together and rejoice in the fact that we are not Michigan. And of course, at this school traditions mean something a little more than at most other college campuses across the country.

Even if it's just for one night, people put aside their differences and realize their similarities. It doesn't matter where you are from, whether you like the Bengals or Browns, or what niche you belong to. Tonight we are just all Buckeyes and it doesn't get any better than that.

Let's get started:

SHAZIER WINS FRESHMAN OF THE WEEK HONORS. While Ohio State's loss to Penn State produced very few bright spots, one player who shined was freshman linebacker Ryan Shazier. Shazier finished the contest with a game-high 15 tackles, including 7 solo tackles.

Through his impressive performance, Shazier became the second OSU freshman, after Braxton Miller, to win the Big Ten Player of the Week Award. Due to Andrew Sweat's injury, the freshman from Florida got the chance to start last week and is once again listed as this week's starter at WILL on OSU's official depth chart. Fickell announced that regular starter Andrew Sweat might be able to play this week, but it is still expected that Shazier will get the start regardless. 

Shazier has done nothing but impress since coming to Columbus last winter and appears to be a star in the making for the Buckeyes. While there will be freshman mistakes, anyone who watches him play knows he has a knack for getting to the ball and making big plays. It will be very exciting to watch this young stud grow up over the next few seasons.

PLAYING THE UNDERDOG ROLE. For the first time in forever, Ohio State moves into Michigan week as a more-than-a-touchdown underdog to the #15 Wolverines. Doug Lesmerises of the Plain Dealer writes that OSU has played the role of the underdog well against Michigan in past years, potentially foreshadowing this year's match-up.

Of the 31 games played since 1980, Michigan has been favored in 18 of those games. However, as Lesmerises points out, OSU has managed to win six of those games as the underdog.

While OSU has had success in upsetting their rival, they haven't faired well in situations where they are trying to avoid tacking on a sixth loss of the season. Lesmerises writes that OSU is 0-4 all time while trying to avoid a sixth loss when playing Michigan, although circumstances are probably a wee bit different this year than in the past.

The Buckeyes have had a forgettable season thus far. It's almost hard to believe that this team once controlled its own destiny of reaching the Big Ten title game. But even with all the disappointments so far this year, a win over Michigan can definitely heal all wounds and salvage a season that many consider now to be a massive failure.

"The People. The tradition. The excellence."

URBAN MEYER VS. A BOWL GAME. Jon Spencer of the MansfieldNewsJournal.com wrote an article about how the hiring of Urban Meyer may be more important to OSU than the Buckeyes going to a bowl game this season.

Spencer suggests that athletic director Gene Smith should offer the job to Meyer before the season is over and turn down a bowl game opportunity, as opposed to letting this young Buckeye squad continue to be influenced by Luke Fickell and his coaching staff.

The downside of this proposition is the fact that the Buckeyes would be losing 15 extra practices this season, and additionally would be robbing its seniors of a chance to play in a bowl game. But as selfish as it may sound, I would sacrifice these things to get Meyer on OSU's sidelines if that's what it took.

Is going to the Insight Bowl, or one of its caliber, really going to make a difference for this program in the long run? No, it will not. Will having Meyer as our next head coach as early as possible help this team down the road? Yes, it will.

It really hurts seeing a true Buckeye like Fickell go out this way, but this team needs to do some house cleaning and start thinking about the future of the program for years to come.

SO CLOSE, YET SO FAR. Nebraska came pretty close to making history before they played Michigan last week. Not since Penn State began playing in the Big Ten in 1993 has any team beaten Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Michigan State in the same season.

Adam Rittenberg of ESPN describes how Nebraska almost accomplished the rare feat in its first season in the Big Ten. Nebraska's eventual loss to Michigan last Saturday ended what was an inconsistent but nonetheless impressive first year for the Cornhuskers. 

Rittenberg goes on to chronicle the next steps Bo Pelini must take to prepare his team for their future in the Big Ten conference.

LOS LINKS. A very memorable Mirror Lake jump... The latest NCAA basketball coaches poll... I'm sorry, but a pitcher should not be able to win MLB's MVP... Gary Pinkel faces the media... Everyone say a prayer for Arizona tonight... Brady Hoke talking about "Ohio."

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Abe Froman's picture

Its funny that Az didn't even hold a press conference.  Not real proud of that hire. 

Not sure how I feel about the bowl game vs Meyer.  15 games of practice are extremely important to young squads and their development, but 5 years from now it doesn't matter.  The question becomes, do you want to win now or next year?

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

ChuckR65's picture

First, Jon Spencer wouldn't know a football if it hit him in the face.  I can't believe Gannett can't find a real football writer but, you get what you pay for.  As for Urban, of the 9 FBS coaches who won a MNC and then went on to coach another FBS team, only 1 (Nick Satan) was able to win anothr MNC.  The last 2 "unkowns" hired by OSU despite fan cries to hire a big name, Jim Tressel and Woody Hayes!  Better off staying with the unknowns in my opinion.

chitown buckeye's picture

I think an Urban Meyer hire is like a Nick Satan hire from the stand point of winning. I think he will be a huge for recruiting and from the rumors that have been flying around wants to pay high dollar for great assistants. I actually believe that this is his "dream job". he has a picture of Woody up in his house both him and his wife are from Ohio. I think it would be a great fit and we need a strong head coach (a guy that knows exactly what needs to be done and how to do it) and staff right now more than ever!

"I'm having a heart attack!"

gwalther's picture

I think Rich Rod is actually a good hire for Arizona. His bullshitty spread offense will work against the majority of the Pac 12. What does he really have to worry about? One game a year against both Oregon and USC? Whoa, scary. The conference as a whole is not known for playing defense, or smash-mouth football. Combine that with the fact that Arizona has low expectations, and like I said, solid hire for them.

Class of 2008

BuckeyeSaab's picture

I agree.

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

ArTbkward's picture

His first game as a Wildcat will be against none other than Toledo...

hehe

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

dbit's picture

“One of the things was the focus, the intensity, the concentration,” Bollman said. “To me, this is a game where it is easy to go overboard. One of my favorite old-time sayings is to play this game on the verge of a rage, and if you get into a rage, you may not play it very well. You have to remember it’s a football game."

 

WALRUS RAGE!

 

From http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/11/22/the-key-to-winning-the-game-embrace-it.html

741's picture

I participated in a Mirror Lake jump in 1986, so....

Alex's picture

Ya I thin it unofficially started earlier but if you Wikipedia the jump they have an official start of '90....just backing up my boy Danny!

MirrorLakeJump's picture

My first following of the Phantom Band to Mirror Lake was 1990, but my older roommates gave me the impression that it was already a tradition. Good times!

tommrkr's picture

ok, so I was here as an undergrad 95-00.  Never heard of the Mirror lake jump.  Asked around to the other 30 somethings in my department and none of them had heard of it at the time either.  I hear the tour guides now talk about how the tradition practically pre-dates the university and that Calvin Coolidge himself once joined in the jump after hitting the jager ice luge.

 

Baroclinicity's picture

I remember it in '93, but didn't jump.  Probably one of those things that just slowly evolved, making it nearly impossible to put an official starting year to it.

edit:  I remember about 1500-2000 there that year.  Not nearly what it is today from what the youtube video shows.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Scott's picture

Yes, I've heard Mirror Lake night was next to nothing in the late 90s. If I remember correctly, a faculty member told me that someone was seriously injured one year during the jump and the university essentially shut it down. I can't say for sure when it was, but I'm assuming the accident happened sometime in the early 90s, leading to its near death in the latter half of the decade.

Class of 2008

Rooster Buckburn's picture

I would take the other side of the bowl vs. Meyer thought.  Fifteen more practices under the "Fickell system" aren't going to make that much difference on next years team either. Skipping the bowl game, however miniscule it is, only hurts the kids on the team who've earned the right to play in the bowl.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Not sure if you're pro or con on going to a bowl as you make both points.

BTW some writers are predicting we get bumped up to the Gator Bowl vs Florida. That's not a podunk bowl like the TicketCity or Meinke Car Care. And Florida isn't doing that much better than us this year so it's not like we'll get waxed.

I'd like to send the seniors and Fickell out on a high note.

BuckeyeChris's picture

"It really hurts seeing a true Buckeye like Fickell go out this way, but this team needs to do some house cleaning and start thinking about the future of the program for years to come."

I believe the mantra over the summer of 2011 was, "the program is bigger than one person/coach/player." It was true then and it is true today. This is about the future.

As the old saying goes, "it's not where you're at, it's where you're headed." I'm pretty clear on where we are today, I'd like to be headed somewhere else in the future. 

BucksfanXC's picture

Verlander so deserved the MVP it's not even debatable. I don't understand how people can think any differently. He was Detroit. From the All-Star Break til Sept, he didn't lose a game. The Tigers won their division, and on days Verlander didn't start, they were barely over .500. That is the definition of Most Valuable Player.

Don't give me this, he only plays every 5th day crap. Quote from Jim Caple on ESPN debate that I totally agree with:

Look at it this way. Combine plate appearances with fielding chances and Ellsbury had a verifiable effect on a game 1,123 times, Granderson 1,059 times and Bautista 907 times. Verlander, meanwhile, faced 969 batters. That's not as many times as Ellsbury and Granderson had a chance to affect a game, but it's more than Bautista. And it's also more than last year's winner, Josh Hamilton (805).

Obviously, it's not that simple. The point, however, is while pitchers may sit on the bench doing nothing a lot, outfielders also do a lot of standing around doing nothing themselves.

 

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

blazers34's picture

I agree with you.  Obviously it will be different year to year in regards to the pitcher/position player argument, but Verlander was unreal.  He deserved it.

jfrank373's picture

He also had a perfect game and how many no-hit bids? I was saying back in June that he should win the MVP. It's not like he's the first pitcher to ever win. He is the best player in the American League and he is easily more valuable than any other member of any other team. Nobody, position player or pitcher, is as dominant of a player as he is.

OSUbucknut's picture

I want the Bowl game.  I don't see why they can't hire Urban Meyer next week and and still let the current coaches finish the season with a bowl game. 

Maestro's picture

+ #s

vacuuming sucks

Baroclinicity's picture

Especially if he keeps Fickell on the staff... big if, but still...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Maestro's picture

Would love for Vrabs and Fick to stay.  I guess Drayton too since he has a relationship with Meyer.

vacuuming sucks

RBuck's picture

Although most knowledgeable folks don't think that tOSU will get a bowl ban, I don't trust the NCAA in regards to Ohio State. Look what they did to Posey to make an example. And, don't forget that we could be seen as a repeat offender.

I say preempt them and self-impose this season. Time to put the last 12 months behind us and open the door to a new coaching staff and to the new recruits with a clean slate.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Buckeye Chuck's picture

"The first ever Mirror Lake Jump took place in 1990..."

It's frightening to think that I'm old enough now that Ohio State has "traditions" that didn't begin until after I was a student. I don't recall anyone in my day ever thinking of Mirror Lake as something it would be appetizing to jump into.

Speaking of 1990, the other possible downside of bowl vs. Meyer is the Air Force argument--the possibility we'd lose the game, especially if we face a team from a non-BCS conference, where beating even a diminished Ohio State would represent a major triumph.

Even though a loss on Saturday and a bowl loss would leave the team at 6-7, I don't think it would be nearly the black eye for the program that everything else this season has already been.

But considering everything--that there won't be all that much money involved, that the game probably wouldn't seem like much of a reward to players that have never been to anything but a BCS bowl, that the pregame practices would be conducted by a lame duck staff--I don't think skipping the bowl is totally unthinkable. I know there were many fewer bowls in the 1980s, but didn't we opt out of bowl consideration after the firing of Earle Bruce?

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

slidingscrapes's picture

As a student going for my 5th jump in a row, I can tell you that "Mirror Lake" and "appetizing" still don't belong in the same sentence. It's filthy and disgusting, and if the wind is blowing right and you catch the mist off the fountains it still smells like a sewer. But tonight, none of that matters!

Show them Ohio's here!

Denny's picture

None of that matters at all if you're properly drunj.

Taquitos.

dbit's picture

Any updates on the two guys from Taft HS (Washington and Stafford I believe) who are supposed to announce at some time today?

Scott's picture

Washington - Ohio State

Stanford - Oregon

Class of 2008

btalbert25's picture

I would be in favor of hiring Urban next week and going to a bowl.  If it doesn't have to be an either or proposition then I'd be fine with going to the bowl and getting extra practice reps.  The one thing I wonder is would the seniors rather end their careers beating Michigan in Ann Arbor or going to a lower bowl and possibly losing?  I'm not sure. I guess that extends their playing career one more game, but if I'm a player and I've never been to anything but a BCS bowl, I think the last memory I'd like to have as a Buckeye is beating TTUN in my final game. It would certainly be a more fitting way to exit the program then a loss in the Ticket City, Insight, or Gator bowl.

Baroclinicity's picture

I see what you are saying, but that assumes we beat Michigan.  If we lose, a bowl game, no matter how small, is a chance at a consolation prize for the seniors.  Just playing devil's advocate here.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

btalbert25's picture

I can agree with that.  As I was typing the message that thought came to mind, but I didn't want to mention losing to that team lol.

cronimi's picture

I think I'm leaning in this direction too. Bring in Urban and have him work next to Fickell (assuming he'll be on staff next year). No need to worry about bringing in a new scheme yet, because these players need to work on fundamentals.  Fifteen practices to cover tackling, pursuit angles, tackling, passing, tackling, blocking, and tackling, among other basic skills.

BuckiGirl's picture

I graduated in 2006 and the Mirror Lake jump was well established. We were told you jumped in to "evoke the spirit of Woody Hayes." 

And, even then, and now, the lake is not appetizing to jump into. That's half the fun. (The other half is probably the boobs. Lots and lots of boobs.) 

ERIC OSU's picture

I endorse this message... first jump in four years I am missing!!

I remember this discussion last year, what should I do now that I am no longer on campus... take an ice cold shower tonight in a thrashed white tee with sharpie all over it, $2 sandals and a beer in hand???

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

pics or gtfo

 

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

btalbert25's picture

I think Rich Rod will do very well in Arizona.  I also think the notion that his offense didn't work in the B1G is laughable.  The racked up a ton of points and yards last year.  For those who say well they didn't put those numbers up  on great defenses I say whose offense does score and put up hug numbers on a great defense.

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

Carr coached bowl game after Rod was hired, no?

RBuck's picture

And Earle coached a bowl game after he was fired...don't think they hired Cooper yet though.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

BuckeyeChris's picture

No. The 1987 Michigan game was Earle's last. OSU didn't go to a bowl game after the '87 season. 

RBuck's picture

Thanks, memory's foggy.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

BuckeyeChris's picture

No sweat...I just happened to look this one up yesterday. 

Nappy's picture

Yeah, I remember seeing DickRod strolling the sideline of the Capitol One Bowl vs. Florida when Carr was still coaching.

Which brings me to this question.  And not that I'd advocate this idea, but what would stop OSU from hiring Meyer tomorrow and immediately installing him as HC?  I understand schemes and whatnot would be different, but 15 extra practices for bowl prep with Meyer as HC seems better than 15 extra practices with Fick as HC.  Just curious if theres a precedent for this or rules allowing for that to take place.

Fan of bacon since 1981

NC_Buckeye's picture

Which brings me to this question.  And not that I'd advocate this idea, but what would stop OSU from hiring Meyer tomorrow and immediately installing him as HC?

NCAA sanctions haven't been released yet. Until then, there's not going to be a contract.

Nappy's picture

I get that, but putting possible sanctions aside, theoretically, could OSU hire Meyer tomorrow and name him HC effective immediately?  I cant see it being any different than firing a HC midway through the season and naming a coordinator as HC.  I was just curious is this would even be possible if both sides agreed to a contract. 

Fan of bacon since 1981

NC_Buckeye's picture

I can't remember who specifically but several years ago an HC was fired and a new HC hired and he coached the team in its bowl. Anyone recall this? It wasn't a BCS-AQ team. Someone smaller.

So, I believe there is precedent. Just isn't likely.

William's picture

Brian Kelly did this for Cincinnati, and then he also left right before the bowl game as well.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

hey...maybe i'm misreading..you are talking like the jump is tonight. I thought Mirror Lake was usually Thursday at midnight?

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

flipbuckeye's picture

I thought so as well. Been a while though so I may not remember correctly.

ArTbkward's picture

It was on Thursday until they moved The Game to Thanksgiving week. 

As of last year, Mirror Lake jumping is now on Tuesday.

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

Bucksfan's picture

Bowls are about making money.  There is only one way to make money in the bowls, and that is to sell out your allotment of tickets so that the school doesn't have to eat the cost.  If the Buckeyes with Luke Fickell and Man-Bear-Walrus take the field in the ticketcity.com bowl or whatever it is, no one is going to fork over the 100 bucks a ticket to go, plus travel expenses. 

If Urban Meyer is coaching, the place is sold out.

BuckeyeChris's picture

A. Washington, 5 star DE from Cincy chose OSU!  .........Schwing! 

cbusbuckeye's picture

Yes! Any news on his teammate?

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Stanford picked Oregon....

RBuck's picture

And he just went from 5 star to a 4 or 3 star.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

hahaha

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

GoBucks713's picture

What time is the Jump?

-The Aristocrats!

William's picture

The jump starts at 10 tonight.

GoBucks713's picture

Thanks! Will 11w have a live blog for it? HAHAHA.

-The Aristocrats!

DJ Byrnes's picture

ill be there, but i aint jumping cuz my heart aint that durable these days.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

BrewstersMillions's picture

A buddy of mine just texted me a block M got spraypainted near Mirror Lake? Any truth to that?

 

Pretty crappy if you ask me. M fans are acting like this game's already been played.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

Baroclinicity's picture

Stay classy, Michigan.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Scott's picture

Man people are going to piss and shit all over that thing tonight.

Class of 2008

Doc's picture

Classless ass clowns as usual.  A decade of being beaten and now they think they are back.  It will take there best team in years to beat our worst.  I won't like it, but I guess we can give them one victory every 10 years.  Win or lose the game this weekend we can still go to bed at night with a smile in our hearts knowing we aren't michigan and don't root for them.

 

GO BUCKS!  SCREW BLUE! 

"Say my name."

DJ Byrnes's picture

https://twitter.com/#!/elevenwarriors/status/139031527974645760

Tis true. I'm sure Gordon Gee has already comissioned its removal.

I'd say something like, "And just like that, Michigan's arrogance is back," but it's not like it really ever left in the first place. It's hilarious because, as @dconeil pointed on Twitter, nobody has ever updated a Facebook status about a Michigan victory over Ohio State because it wasn't invented the last time it was around.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

BrewstersMillions's picture

I have a 6 year old niece who doesn't know anything but Ohio State victory. Losses eventually have to come and this year is as good as any but we can beat these dudes. They are by no means unbeatable. Same buddy that texted me (UM fan) said a UM win 'cleans the slate' and starts the rivalry over....I Lol'd. 9 out of the last 11 in favor of the good guys doesn't really scream "Rivalry" to me.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Scott's picture

There have been a few Michigan "pranks" on campus as of recent. I remember seeing a photo of a Michigan flag flying outside of Orton Hall last year. Almost as funny as that joke we played on them when we beat the hell out of them for a decade.

Class of 2008

BrewstersMillions's picture

This joke wasn't nearly as bad as the one where UM put Tate Forcier on the field and called him a "Quarterback".

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

At first I was not huge on Urban but now the speculation, and even assumption, have grown so large that if we do not end up with Meyer it will actually look bad on us.  Wow, people will say, Ohio State is so messed up even Urban Meyer, the coach with the magic touch, does not want to coach there.  It would be yet another bad black eye.  For that reason I have gone from partially inderfferent to waiting to do a jig.  Also, from the start of the season to now, having seen Braxton's abilities, I think Meyer could work wonders with him.

And I am in agreement with those saying why choose, hire him after the michigan game and go to a bowl.  That gets him more recruiting time and a chance to see the other coaches in action.

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

Baroclinicity's picture

SI reporting Gene Smith said the Buckeyes would go to a bowl game if invited.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/22/ohio-state-bowl.ap/index.html?sct=cf_t2_a6

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Scott's picture

I'd like to see us go to a bowl game this year.

1. The seniors deserve it.

2. The Ohio State fans who couldn't afford to go to a BSC game for the past six years deserve it.

Class of 2008

Doc's picture

I would say do both.  Hire Urbz on Sunday the 27th and let him start coaching up the team.  Even a loss in the bowl game with him at the helm would be better than a loss with him in waiting.  Make him the coach and let Fickell off the hook.  Trying to coach under these circumstances is classless on tOSU's part.  Another bumble from the top.  Thanks Gene and EGG.

"Say my name."

GoBucks713's picture

Any one else hear that there's a presser being Scheduled for 6pm tonight?

-The Aristocrats!

LABuckeye's picture

Where did you hear that?

GoBucks713's picture

it's kind of lame, but just a friend of a friend thing. I'm just seeing if anyone else heard it too. They said that they are going to announce it at 3 and the presser will be at 6? I don't know. I wouldn't call it credible in any way because he's been wrong before. Just figuring out what other people have heard if anything at all. Where's Brutus when we need him?

-The Aristocrats!

LABuckeye's picture

It seems now-a-days when things like this happen that leaks end up on twitter. Nobody saying anything there about it that I'm seeing... doesn't mean it isn't true, though.

jfrank373's picture

I saw reference to another blog yesterday citing the Dispatch saying there would be a presser last night at 6. 6 would be an odd time in my opinion but maybe they're trying to get the news crowd to tune in. If you heard the Adolphus Washington announcement, he was asked by a Dispatch reporter if the coaching situation would deter him at all. His exact response was that he thinks Coach Meyer will be great to play for. Maybe he knows something we don't.

BuckeyeSki's picture

Banned from BlackShoeDiaries since 2008. Crime: Slander/Defamation of Character Judgement: Guilty

TatumRuled's picture

OK, here's my armchair-shrink theory:

The fact that Hoke calls The Ohio State University 'Ohio', is much akin to the song "...don't care for the whole state of Michigan".

We're not calling out the school but the whole friggin' state. So when Hoke refers to 'Ohio', he's doing the same.

And, as we all know, he's from Ohio...Classic self-loathing.

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

Maestro's picture

Highlights of Washington are downright funny.  He is so much better than the competition he is essentially unblockable.  He sometimes takes out the tailback, fullback and QB on the same play.  Dude is a beast.

vacuuming sucks