Preview: #17 Ohio State at Miami

By Johnny Ginter on September 16, 2011 at 12:30p
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Those unis are the worst photobomb
Ohio State Buckeyes #17 Ohio State 2-0, 0-0 Big Ten Roster | Schedule 7:30 PM ET - ESPN —— Sun Life Stadium Miami, FL Miami (Florida) Hurricanes Miami (Florida) 0-1, 0-1 ACC Roster | Schedule

Come on shake your body, baby, do the conga/ I know you can't control yourself any longer/ Feel the rhythm of the music getting stronger/ Don't you fight it till you've tried it/ Do the conga beat

Nervous? After all, it's Ohio State's first away game of the year, and trying to get their ragtag group of balding quarterbacks, stonefaced cornerbacks, broest of the bro positional coaches, and intrepid aw-shucks-but-secretly-crazy punters sober and onto a plane, OSU's very own Crockett (Luke Fickell) and Tubbs (uhhh... Stan Drayton?) will have their work cut out for them. The media storyline is already established; suspensions, Jacory, Braxton, 200 dollar handshakes, boosters with Napoleon complexes, blah blah blah.

Boring.

IT'S MIAMI, BABY! Land of sexy women, stolen dolphin mascots, chainsaw murders, and things getting real! Sure, I'll have to spend the bulk of this preview talking about the game, but let's be honest; I know what you really want to know. Will Tyler Moeller finally succumb to the temptations of Lusty, spicy seductress of the Miami strip? Can Mike Brewster finally loosen the grip of the Jamaican gang that is terrorizing his neighborhood? Will Jim Bollman run out of heart medication before he runs out of dollar bills? Will Jaamal Berry get his pilot's license in time to help the FBI stop a shipment of drugs coming into the harbor?

Yes; only after losing his partner during a rooftop firefight; hopefully not, for both his sake and the sake of the ladies at The Ticklish Tabby; no, but he'll steal a speedboat and save the day anyway but then be revealed to be a Cuban double agent.

I tried my hardest to keep y'all apart, you just kept gettin' back together... and I'm the queen of connivin'.

Opponent

I watched the Miami/Maryland game. Or, at least I think I did. It all seemed like some kind of surreal fever dream or a very loose interpretation of one of Shakespeare's weirder plays, what with the goofily sloppy gameplay and generally garish costumes. And even if it was real, the truth of the matter is that it really didn't provide a ton of solid information about what kind of team Miami actually is.

Most of that is due to the fact that that game was two weeks ago; during that 32-24 loss against Maryland, the Miami defense was without standout LB Sean Spence, DT Marcus Forston, and DE Adewale Ojomo, which probably helped the Maryland Terrapins drop nearly half a thousand yards on their possibly bitter ACC rivals. On the offensive side, WR Travis Benjamin was also not present, also not helping matters any.

Now, two weeks later, all of these guys are returning from their NCAA imposed exile from the Candyland board that is the Miami football program, which should help their chances against OSU immeasurably. On the other hand, Jacory Harris is also back. And he's been named the starter. Hmmm.

Jacory is really the X-factor here for the Miami offense. His replacement Stephen Morris was almost serviceable against Maryland, but seriously kid, this is the Miami Hurricanes. If you're gonna toss a couple of INTs you damn well better have a yards per attempt average better than 7, and that's where Jacory comes in. Benjamin and underrated, oversized, speedy Allen Hurns (who had four receptions for 69 yards against Maryland), will both help Harris on his quest to go Jacrazy on the OSU secondary. Expect these guys to repeatedly challenge Howard and company both deep and early.

Miami RB Lamar Miller was probably the most impressive Hurricane in their first game. He had 119 yards on only 18 carries, and probably could've been even more productive had Miami not repeatedly shot themselves in the foot during the game. He's a quick, tough guy who has home run capability, and though I don't expect him to have a ton of success against Ohio State, if Al Golden can effectively involve him in the passing game he could become a problem. Also, like Jason says, I'm pretty okay with never kicking to him ever.

As previously mentioned, Miami returns some critical members of their defense; DT Marcus Forston could have a huge impact on the game if he displays his 12 TFL and 3 sack form from last season, and LB Sean Spence returning means that it's increasingly unlikely that OSU will be able to rely solely on horse tranquilizers to dominate the line of scrimmage. This will be the first real test for the offensive line, especially in terms of run blocking.

The Miami secondary, however, can and has been passed on. Without Ray Ray Armstrong, this just isn't anything close to the unit it needs to be for the Hurricanes to be successful. Not to take anything from future three time Heisman winner Danny O'Brien, but during the first game pretty much the entire secondary looked like hot garbage, to put it gently. Though they tried, blown assignments, poor communication, and bad positioning can't be compensated for with pure athleticism. If Bauserman can exploit it, there's an opportunity here to pick up some points.

Buckeye Breakdown

That's a pretty big "if." In reality Joe Bauserman didn't really have quite the soul crushing game against Toledo the he appeared to have at first blush, but questionable playcalling and some really poor touch on some of his deeper throws made him look pretty bad. I'm not sure why Bollman decided to remove his most reliable safety net in Stoneburner for long stretches of the game last week, but on Saturday it will be critical to get him involved early and often.

Still, I'm at the point where Joey B has essentially a one quarter tryout to keep his starting job. Miami is going to do everything they can to get to him early, and if either he or the offensive line can't show that they can handle blitzes from safeties and corners armed with insults about how they'd never invite a dweeb like him on their yacht, it'll be time to bring in Braxton and go for broke with the true frosh on the road.

Let's hope to see this look quite a bit.

The running game actually worries me more than the passing game at this point. Carlos Hyde, despite people giving him some love in the press, is only averaging 4.33 yards per carry and seems to be having difficulty mastering the find art of knowing which hole to hit and when. And I'm not convinced that Jordan Hall is going to be quite the boost people are expecting, either. While he's certainly talented, his best game rushing was against New Mexico State where he went off for all of 90 yards... in 2009. His biggest contributions will be in the passing game, which is nice, but if OSU is one dimensional offensively (and that one dimension isn't that awesome), the Buckeyes are going to lose the game.

Howard coming back gives a huge, huge boost the the secondary, even if only mentally. OSU was playing a lot of man coverage against Toledo to begin with, but Heacock and Fickell will probably feel more comfortable sending some more exotic blitzes Jacory's way if they aren't as concerned by getting burned by an Eric Page-level talent. Both Roby and Clarke were doing well, Clarke especially, but Howard gives OSU a better chance to match the physicality of Miami's WRs.

Still, a lot of that is predicated on the LBs and the safeties doing a much better job against the screen plays that Lamar Miller will undoubtedly be used on throughout the game. Without Nate Williams patrolling at LEO, it limits what the defense can do a bit, puts more pressure on the defensive line, and means that guys like Andrew Sweat and Tyler Moeller are going to have to step up their games.

Prediction

This is a tough one. I still haven't been able to decide if the addition of Jacory Harris makes Miami better or worse, although one has to imagine that playing at home will help him quite a bit. And despite Sun Life Stadium not being exactly an intimidating venue, the first away game against a quality opponent can spell disaster for any team, nevermind a team that's going through as much flux as Ohio State. What will decide this game will be the Buckeyes' ability to consistently put points on the board; if Good Jacory strikes early, it is imperative that the OSU offense is able to respond and continue to do so until the defense can figure the Hurricanes out, because this is not a team built to mount a huge  comeback. In other words, let's all hope Drew Basil finds a golden shoe in a forest or something. Either way, OSU's relative discipline versus the relative athleticism of the 6 and a Half Floor's Crew should make for a very close game in steamy Miami.

Last week Alex was King Cool Guy, off by a mere 9 points with a prediction of 27-13. He gets a gold star and a hug from his mom, while this week the collective Eleven Warriors hivemind seems to have caught the Hitchcockian bug and are forecasting a nailbiting thriller of...

Ohio State 25, Miami (Florida) 23

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BucksfanXC's picture

If we can score 25 or more points, we will win. (If their ST don't score 14pts).

We will, they won't, we'll win 31-13.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

theDuke's picture

absolutely with you on this.  25 points is a magic number methinks.

theDuke

741's picture

There is a distinct Tressellian element to this line of thinking.

slippy's picture

I feel like Harris without Hankerson is going to make him look a lot worse.  Dude was a matchup nightmare and made some plays.  However, the Miami run game looks like it will be better this year.  All I'm saying is I have no idea what's going to happen.

 

We just need to score TDs with our chances (duh).  But all these big games end up the same.  Good offense until the red zone, we get a field goal, never go up by more than 1 score and end up losing (Texas '05, texas bowl game, USC '09, etc).

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

keep in mind our FG kicking has been TURBLE so far this season...

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

baddogmaine's picture

I don't understand the position that Bauserman is definitely the best choice in a close game. If the game is close because both teams have scored like crazy then you don't blame the QB. But if the game is close because the QB is leading a three-and-out parade and we are in danger of losing if we don't get some points how much worse could it be with Miller? We came within 17 yards of losing to Toledo because we got only 6 points in the whole second half - how many fewer points would we have gotten with Miller? Bauserman put almost no points on the board in the entire game last week and if he does it again tomorow expecting something different in the fourth quarter is the textbook definition of insanity. If you don't want Miller throwing INTs don't call risky pass plays, and instruct him to run out of trouble. He didn't have an INT against Akron either, I remind 11W readers. All indications are that he is better than another freshman who played in and then started games three years ago with no great injury to us. Sorry Todd - sorry Joe.

There is also the question of what we are playing for. If Bauserman can lead us to a good bowl then hitch our wagon to his star. If not, none of us will be happy playing Directional MI in a Dec 23rd bowl. If that's our destiny this year then at least start getting Miller ready for next year so we don't go into 2012 with a QB as inexperienced as we've got this year.

 

 

buckeyedude's picture

none of us will be happy playing Directional MI in a Dec 23rd bowl.

Or worse, playing MAC champion Toledo in a "rematch for the ages." No disrespect to Toledo.

 

 

Orlando Buckeye's picture

I keep feeling pessimistic about this game until I remind myself that all this Miami team has done this year is lose to Maryland.

CLT Silver Bullet's picture

I expect to see a healthy dose of Jordan Hall catching screen passes.  Our O-Line looks suspect again, and I am not sold on Carlos Hyde like others are.  I would really like to see us come out firing looking like a team that has come to town and knock out the Hurricanes early.  Forcing Jacory Harris into passing situations is when he starts to force things, and I would be surprised if we can get a pick 6 tomorrow night.

As bad as last weeks game was, I think it was ultimately be a positive for this team moving forward.  I really believe if the Bucks can go on the road and beat Miami, there is a great shot we are 5-0 going to Lincoln.

28-17 (still can't make a kick further than a PAT)

CGroverL's picture

If the OL is "suspect" then El Guapo has been terriffic. With Jordan Hall's return, and his shiftiness, I think the Bucks will run well against Miami's Defense. Everyone complains about Hyde's inability to see the holes but I think that it is simply the size difference. Hall is under 200 lbs. while El Guapo is close to 240. I think that a healthy dose of Hyde and then bringing in Hall and his cutting ability is going to spell doom for "The U" (God that makes me sick...please tell me that our players started saying "THE Ohio State University" before those true criminals started their goofy "The U" thing). If the Buckeyes can run...I mean truly be effective running the ball, then Bauserman and Miller will have better than decent shots at putting points on the board. Call me stupid, but I really think that Miami is outclassed. Maryland's passing attack shredded Miami a bit in week #1 (31-44, 348 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT). I understand that the Buckeye D got torched (by the numbers) against Toledo but the Rockets had a perfect game plan aided by a group of zebras that called the game very loosely when it came to holding calls on those bubble screens. I refuse to believe the Bucks forgot how to tackle and hope that the Silver Bullets can defend against RB screens (Miami's alternative to the bubble screen) a bit better than they did against Toledo. Toledo did not have much success throwing downfield and I look for Miami to be forced to do just that. TOSU 30, Miami 17.

 

***I did not steal calling Carlos Hyde "El Guapo" but I am thrilled that it did make its way to the 11W terminology page. I thought that I had made it up on my own, but may have been beaten to the punch by the 11W staff. Thanks for welcoming me to this place...I have been hanging here for just a few weeks, and this place really makes me proud to be a Buckeye fan. You fans and the 11W staff are the best. Go Bucks!

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

Buckeyejason's picture

I agree with you Slippy for the most part. But can't forget @Texas 06', Rose Bowl, and last years Sugar Bowl(although we almost choked that game away)

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyejason's picture

Does everyone really think theBaus can get us 3-4 td's versus a Miami defense that although isn't great...still has tremendous athletes on it?
I just see us struggling to score period with visions of Baus missing wide open recievers, checking down to quickly and not being able to create plays in general as well as Basil's inabilities to make a field goal.

BUCKEYES BABY!

BucksfanXC's picture

Yeah, Stoney is a mismatch for their LBs, Jordan Hall out of the backfield is something other teams haven't seen this season. Miami's secondary is torchable for sure.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Buckeyejason's picture

I'll believe it when I see it. Stoney has yet to be targeted in big games and Hall hasn't been counted on to be #1 guy since he's been here.

Hope it goes like you say it will.

BUCKEYES BABY!

theDuke's picture

anyone else kinda pumped up for Toledo on the big stage tonight? Representin BrOhio..

theDuke

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I am. I hope they beat Boise. Don't think it's likely, but I still have hope.

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

theDuke's picture

yeah i'm with you.  never would have been on my radar until i saw page and thomas play last week.  Those guys are pretty good. Boise qb Kellen Moore(?) is the real deal i think. that said, toledo's shaky secondary is in for it. But i would love to see Beckman drag this thing out sweatervest style. let the tree begin to grow.

theDuke

Baroclinicity's picture

Random thought... I wonder if they get ticked off when everyone calls them Boise instead of Boise State.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

theDuke's picture

great question. couple of things here, cuz i think i see where you are going... First, Boise is a city, so Boise State is akin to say, Columbus State. When I think of it in those terms, nah, I don't think they mind being called Boise. When someone refers to OSU as simply Ohio, it shows they are too round for their own health.  I mean everyone knows Ohio is the bobcats and OSU is the Buckeyes. So if you hear/see some bowling ball like figure blowing air out the thumb hole about "Ohio", just remember, We're not them. That being said, I guess Boise has a luxury of being known as both, Boise and Boise State. I mean the blue grass pretty much gave away the fact that Boise don't give a sh!T.  

theDuke

Bucksfan's picture

Boise@Toledo will only be satisfying if Toledo also plays Boise tough.  If the Broncos destroy Toledo, then better start worrying about tomorrow.

CGroverL's picture

You cannot gauge the strength of the Buckeyes by the score of the Boise St./Toledo game. That just isn't how it works. But...Since it is now tomorrow and we now know that BSU won 40-15, it may make you feel a bit better to know that Toledo played well against a team they should have lost to. And if you want to compare the 2 games. You have to remember that one of Toledo's TD's against TOSU started on the Buckeys 1 after a punt block. Realistically, Toledo put the same amount of points on the board against both teams. The difference was just that BSU's offense played well. If you want to compare BSU to TOSU, they are close to equal for one reason. The Bucks offense had a bad day and is certain to get better. The return of the "Charitygate 3" and the future return of the "Tattoogate" players makes TOSU a bit better than Boise in my eyes. As I said though, you really can't judge teams this way. 

 

The Buckeye running game should get much better as the year goes on. Whether or not the Bucks lose a couple early, they should be among the nation's best at seaseons end.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

buckeyedude's picture

Going to watch the first half, then record the second. Go Rockets. Beat the Smurfs!

 

 

Tommy's picture

A loss really isn't the end of the world here, only our NC hopes which, let's be honest, are slim to none anyways.  I'll never actively root against one of our players, but I really hope that Braxton outplays Baus during whatever opportunities are given to him.

The only chance this team has of reaching its potential this year is with Braxton behind center.  We don't play a Leaders division opponent until @Illiinois.  We just have to split with MSU/Neb. and we'll have our destiny for Rose bowl in our own hands with all suspended players back in the fold.  But with Bauserman still behind center at that point, it would all be moot.

Buckeyejason's picture

To think this was supposed to be so much more of a highly rated game between 2 possible top 10 teams if you looked at it from 1-2 years ago.

This was suppose to be the battle between those to great recruiting classes that we both had in 2008.

Crazy how things change.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

with you..i was just thinking about that yesterday..just imagined our full offense with "those who shall not be named" running the show and the Vest calling the plays..i think it would've been a rout on our part :-\

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Tommy's picture

Before last season, I thought this year's matchup would determine the front runner for the Heisman between TP and Jacory.  Yeesh.

ih8rolltyde's picture

Toledo and the over.......

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

Jdadams01's picture

There's no way Baus gets it done against Miami. If he was flustered and throwing the ball away early against Toledo's D, what's he going to do against Miami's more athletic group? He just didn't have the guts/confidence to put the ball into some barely tight windows against a MAC D, so I expect him to panic when he sees a bigger, faster D on the field tomorrow. The pressure of playing from behind obviously rattled him last week - in the first quarter against Toledo. The pressure of going against a more athletic D in his first road start, airing nationally in prime time, will have him choking early.

BoFuquel's picture

Light the Burnner and we'll be OK. Baus or BM it don"t matter.TP before BM only at The OSU.

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

please do not refer to Braxton Miller as BM. It makes me think of poo

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

741's picture

"TP" similarly rubbed me the wrong way.

741's picture

But of course. This pun has been brought to you by the makers of Charmin Plus. There is no substitute.

BoFuquel's picture

Out of respect for you 2 fellow Buckeye fans I will refrain. At least untill he stinks it up the first time.

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I've never seen Holtz pick against Ohio State. They have mentioned Toledo's almost upset againt tOSU 8 times so far.....9

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

10..11..and 12...i know it shouldn't matter..really hate that both picked Miami though

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyejason's picture

Oh man it is so pathetic how Lou Holtz picks Notre Dame no matter what. He picked them to beat Sparty of coarse...uggh rubs me the wrong way.

I wish Lou and [censored]May would go away.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyejason's picture

Good defensive stand for Toledo on that 1st series.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Boise scared? Go Rockets!

tampa buckeye's picture

I'll be making the trip to Miami for the game in the a.m.  Anyone making the trip?

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Rockets QB throwing passes like a Baus!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

bahahhaa

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyejason's picture

Niceeeee! Toledo has Ballzzz

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

that looked like a broken play...but..on purpose..haha awesome

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Menexenus's picture

Yeah, that first Toledo touchdown was some awesome trickeration!  Very nice!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

BoFuquel's picture

TD rockets!!!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Buckeyejason's picture

Nice, tryin to get to cute there on the extra point though

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

so...are we actually thinking this upset is possible tonight?

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyejason's picture

Toledo is the best MAC team I've ever seen.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Baroclinicity's picture

Marshall with Pennington and Moss?

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Boise's play calling is awesome. I want them to lose but respect their coach.

Buckeyejason's picture

Too early to call upset yet. Boise could still win this 42-6

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

oh absolutely..just wondering everyone's thoughts......AAAAND that was fuckin lobbed into the endzone

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Boooooo!!! That was easy.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

dude...is....a.....boss

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

x2

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyejason's picture

Just hand Paige the heisman already please

BUCKEYES BABY!

Menexenus's picture

Nice return by Eric Paige.  That can swing the momentum back to the Rockets.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Menexenus's picture

Mmmm...  fudge...

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

So Boise's defense is better than ours?

madhatterhater's picture

Talent wise probably no, the difference is that they are form tackling for the most part.  I have seen them miss on some.  OSU was to out of control last week.

go bucks

Buckeyejason's picture

Damn wouldve been nice if Toledo came up with that

BUCKEYES BABY!

Menexenus's picture

Except for the missed PAT, Toledo has been doing some nice work on special teams!  And (so far) they aren't killing themselves with penalties like they did last week.  If they keep this up, it could be a close game.  (And that's all we really need.)

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Menexenus's picture

Boise starts from their own 1 yard line!  Again, very impressed with Toledo special teams!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Buckeyejason's picture

He's from Toledo Ohio

BUCKEYES BABY!

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Just looked on UT website, sd he was from Springfield, OH. Why isn't that dude a Buckeye?

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuK$

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Buckeyejason's picture

Same reason why Akise Teague isn't a Buckeye I would assume...I have no idea.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Menexenus's picture

Rockets are moving nicely.  <pleased>

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Bucks's picture

I'm going to ignore the score of this Boise/Toledo game & instead go with extra points. Yep.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

how about we ignore that pitch and catch just now too

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Bucks's picture

pitch and what? I don't know of what you refer to. :P

Menexenus's picture

How is that not a touchdown?  How does he not catch that ball???!!!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Damn....Toledo can't cover slow white dudes....we have no chance
And fuck the loser asshole who's calling this game.

Menexenus's picture

Yeah, I heard that.  Sack! Yeah!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Who is that?

Great tackle for loss.

ERIC OSU's picture

rod gilmoreclownbag

tampa buckeye's picture

Being a company guy and dogging the hell out of Ohio State is what he does best.

ERIC OSU's picture

exactly. too bad for rod, being the company pet doesnt get you off the d-list friday night college game. bend over gilmore.

DallasTheologian's picture

That drop killed any momentum that they might have had

BoFuquel's picture

I just turned it off. ESPN SUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Who was that? I want to ensure if the opportunity presents itself I can punch him in the face.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Rod Gilmore. Played at Stanford. Was on the kickoff team that lost to Cal in 1982 game (where the Stanford band came onto the field before the game was over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Gilmore

Buckeye 09's picture

Damn...I guess I can't watch any football on ESPiN without them talking about OSU

Menexenus's picture

He got that first down!  I thought he had no chance!  Toledo sure can run the screen...

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Menexenus's picture

Yes!  4th down!  Now come on, Toledo, let's get a touchdown and go into halftime all tied up!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Nice! Toledo hasn't given up. Impressed so far. Boise's offense looks good.

tampa buckeye's picture

Should be 14 all right now.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Paige needs to work on his blocking.

Bucks's picture

Regardless, right now Toledo is in this game. That is a +1 on my fear for the first half.

Menexenus's picture

Man, this sucks!  A real shame to give up points just before the half when they could have tied it up.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

DallasTheologian's picture

These commentators are terrible

M Man's picture

Toledo's a good football team.  I hope they get back in this.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Lil sisters o the poor > tOSU FTW!!!!

Why couldn't we move the ball like that? In our own house!??,?!

Trying to stay calm....

RedQueenRace's picture

Boise has a QB that can read a defense and hit the open receiver without requiring him to be open by 10 yards.

Bucks's picture

Not sure what game you are watching, but for me, this is a game of both teams going at it. We can't say the same for our vanilla plays. Toledo is hanging in.

Hoody Wayes's picture

It ain't over yet, Buckeyes...and lone, Wolverine-type, proponent.

Hoody Wayes's picture

How'bout them Rockets?!!!?

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

fack off...did he just use the "holy toledo" line?

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Menexenus's picture

Holy Toledo!  I'm surprised by Toledo's feistiness here at the end of the half!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Menexenus's picture

Nicely done!  All things considered, the score could have been better, but it also could have been worse.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

tampa buckeye's picture

They should go for the TD here.

Hoody Wayes's picture

We'll take 3! AND the momentum!

madhatterhater's picture

Kinda ironic that a PAT is going to be an issue all game.

go bucks

M Man's picture

I saw most of the Toledo-OSU game on video; I wasn't thinking that you guys played so badly... I thought that Toledo played some good football.

I would LOVE to see them come back and win this.  I want everybody to beat Boise.

Colin's picture

The only difference I see between OSU and Boise St.: Kellen Moore. Baus is no Kellen Moore and that is why we looked worse.

madhatterhater's picture

I agree, the receivers were open last week, they just didnt get the ball.

go bucks

Menexenus's picture

Big surprise, folks:  Mark May "loves Miami" to beat the Buckeyes.  Fuck that guy...  (Here's another big surprise: no mention by *anyone* at ESPiN about how much better OSU looks now that they see how well Toledo plays against #4 Boise State.)

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Ultrabuckeyehomer's picture

Toledo is about to lose by 4 tds, unfortunately.  However, Boise is better than Us and Miami, so I am not sure what this game is supposed to prove.

mike78's picture

Kellen Moore looks like Payton Manning; Toledo is still in the game.  I'm  feeling much better about my theory that Toledo is a pretty damn good team, and last week wasn't a horrible disappointment. It was just a close win against a good team.

Menexenus's picture

Here come the penalties...

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RedQueenRace's picture

And Toledo opens the 2nd half with 2 penalties before running a play.

NC_Buckeye's picture

He's definitely got that bucktooth Elway-thing going on. Probably the result of Utah inbreeding.

Menexenus's picture

Nice job staying alert for the fake!  Go Rockets!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

who didn't see the fake coming lol

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Menexenus's picture

Rockets are driving well!  I'm impressed.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Menexenus's picture

Interception in the red zone is just plain bad luck - a batted pass caught by a defensive lineman.  What a shame...

Real fans stay for Carmen.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Boise benefited from last week's Toledo tape on that last play. No more screens today Beckman... if you know what's good for you.

madhatterhater's picture

Soft zones are killing them

go bucks

madhatterhater's picture

I believe that Toledo has just broken

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Ultrabuckeyehomer's picture

Well, I don't know that you go completely away from the screen, they watched the tape before the game and it worked well early.  But, yeah, need something else. Boise is too good to give them the ball.  Need a running game and its not there (we shut that down too).  This game is over, just depends on how bad it looks in the end.

NC_Buckeye's picture

No huddle with everthing but the kitchen sink play-wise? Try to get Boise out of the comfort zone. Plus Rocket D needs to T-off on Moore at every opportunity.... even if it's late. Take the penalties for that. 

btalbert25's picture

I didn't watch the first half, but this game doesn't seem close at all.  Boise is moving the ball at will.  They either are worthy of number 4 in America and are really good, or Ohio State is just not that good right now.  Boise is going to cover the spread and then some. 

Ultrabuckeyehomer's picture

I am a late comer to the Boise bandwagon, I'll admit that. But, damn, they would beat our bucks, that is for sure (and has nothing to do with our Toledo game, really...we played like shit). I just think they are a machine.  I am really starting to respect them. 

RedQueenRace's picture

They are much better offensively.  A lot of that is Kellen Moore.

Defensively I think we played Toledo better.  Boise has had some breaks go their way.

Ultrabuckeyehomer's picture

Yeah, our defense really didn't give up as many sustained drives, albeit that have ended up with turnovers. I just think this is one of the best 5 or 10 teams in the country taking on a pretty good toledo team... but doing what a really good team does to a pretty good team. And you are right, Moore is the difference (as Beckman supposedly said).

btalbert25's picture

lol, apparently all I need to do is talk about how bad Toledo is.  Maybe we can stop hearing about how great Moore is lol. 

 

RedQueenRace's picture

Two turnovers in the red zone, a dropped pass that had TD written all over it and untimely penalties.

Toledo is the MAC version of Notre Dame.

madhatterhater's picture

If the score ends up close does Boise State drop in the polls also?

go bucks

btalbert25's picture

I don't know they'll have to score 2 TD's then be driving as time expires for it to be as close as it was for Ohio State.  The Bucks dropped because it appeared Toledo may have been the better team last Saturday. 

 

Ultrabuckeyehomer's picture

True, but as the national media has yet to figure out, we play like shit against bad teams early in the year, its the Buckeyes way ...

Let's just win tommorow folks, this game neans nothing. we didn't play

madhatterhater's picture

Yeah i was just using a bit of sarcasim.

go bucks

madhatterhater's picture

Was not a penalty in my opinion.

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AltaBuck's picture

Is it too late to convert Baus to the LDS(Mormon) church? Think about it: Kellen Moore, Joe Gerrmaine, Steve Young.

Plus, he is sporting a beard. That should count for something and he is 26 years old (like he went on a two year mission)

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CGroverL's picture

I love to think that all of us Buckeye fans are smart...but, If Boise State beats Toledo 100-0, that means absolutely nothing about how good or bad Ohio State is. All of us know that but that is not what I am hearing fromthe Buckeye faithful that is actually rooting for Toledo hoping they have a good showing. IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! If Boise state walked into the horseshoe do you really think that Boise State would beat TOSU by 50 points if they did beat Toledo by 55 points. Come on, guys!

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CGroverL's picture

So much has been made of the passing games with the return of Jacory Harris and TOSU trying to find who to throw the ball, that I am almost blind. I think that this game will be a Tressel-like game with a lot of runs from both teams and most teams tentative when it comes to the pass.

 

I also give the Bucks the edge in this aspect becasuse of Hall's return. The differences in Hall and El Guapo are tremendous. Hall is shifty, can stop and start and Hyde while he isn't slow is a mammoth at 240 pounds. I see this as the place where TOSU takes the game. Sure Lamar Miller is a great player and averaged 6.6 ypg against Maryland, but this is still TOSU run defense and the run defense has been more than stingy giving up just over 40 ypg. Call me crazy, but I can see the Bucks grinding out 250+ yards on the ground while forcing Miami to stack the box where the Bucks can throw.

 

Stop being worried, guys and gals...We are still a run defense first team. Our running game and run defense will win the game for the Bucks with the help of some Miami turnovers.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!