1 KJ Hill 60
2 Austin Mack 56
3 Jaelen Gill 43
4 Binjimen Victor 37
5 Chris Olave 28
6 Ellijah Gardiner 24
7 Garrett Wilson 23
8 Jameson Williams 18
9 Jaylen Harris 11
10 CJ Saunders 10
The original Regimbal article was questioning which line consisting of the best at each position who played for each coach would be better in a head to head match up (even though defensive lines don't play head to head WTF). A player has to play 2 years for a coach or they didn't make it in (Clarett being an outlier). Tress can have Doss, Peterson, and Meyer can have Shazier, and Devin Smith and what not.
I would absolutely say that the 2002 d line was better than anything that Meyer has had here, 2014 would at least give it competition, and 2017 would at least be something to think about. I guess that my main argument is that people give Nick Bosa some magical season that never happened in reality. In reality, the guy was really good, but literally started three games in his time here, and everyone is ready to act like he was better at Ohio State than the guy who literally has the single season record for sacks. Nick Bosa is literally the most completely forgettable player whose name I know that ever played for Ohio State. I would take Chase Young's sophomore year over that in a heartbeat.
And as far as interior line play, Tim Anderson and Kenny Peterson were better than any defensive tackle that Meyer had, and Cam Heyward (I know he played end, and took the majority of his snaps there, but he was lined up inside of Nathan Williams enough to make it more than the token thing that the "rushmen" package was for Nick Bosa, take it easy smitty!) was far and away better. If you want to argue that Meyer as a whole had deeper, more cohesive, effective lines, that is at least an argument that you can make (even if outside of 2014, I don't know if I would make it). But when it comes to the best to play for each coach at each position, I think that Tressel's boys could go toe to toe with Meyer's boys any day of the week.
And when Meyer got here, he inherited, Jonathon Hankins, John Simon, Michael Bennett, and Steve Miller, cupboard bare my ass.
He punched his own offensive linemen in the face on a regular basis at practice.
Montucky, that is my favorite post in this whole damn thread. Upvote to you man. If you guys want to downvote this thread into oblivion, I won't have my feelings hurt, I just try to keep the Tressel flame alive on here once in a while. You guys are all awesome, and go Buckeyes. But you bet your ass that linebacker post is coming next week, all I know is that Tress had 12 linebackers drafted to 4 for Meyer and our man Regimbal has Tressel's disciples blood boiling with putting that check next to Meyer.
I get that when Alex Boone and the rest of the 2006 Buckeye team spent their time prepping for the national championship game by drinking champagne, eating steaks and ice cream, and toasting themselves on a great season, and then getting their asses smoked by Urban Meyer's Florida squad, that was a bad look.
And a memorable look.
I think that alot of people still have that look in their head (I know I can't erase it) when they think of Tressel vs. Meyer. But ultimately, that game has nothing to do with what Meyer did with the Buckeyes. Like everyone else here, I hated Urban Meyer after that night. And like everyone else here, I grew to love Meyer while he was here, I appreciate the kids he recruits, his loyalty to his staff (even when it bites him, and us), and that he genuinely seems to give a shit about his players and he beat michigan 7 years in a row. But damn do I still appreciate Jim Tressel. 9 - 1 against that team up north is not too fucking shabby, especially when I (born in 80) came up in the throes of the Cooper years.
But as much as I appreciate Tressel the person, and how much he gave a shit about his players, I also appreciate Jim Tressel the football coach.
During his time here Tressel had 10 d linemen drafted by the league:
3 1st Rounders
4 3rd Rounders
and 1 of each in the 4th, 5th, and 7th Rounds for 3.1 average round position.
Meyer had 8 defensive linemen drafted:
2 1st Rounders
1 2nd Rounder
3 3rd Rounders
and 1 in the 4th and 7th rounds, for an average draft round position of 2.9
Both guys had great success putting guys in the league. But to say that Meyer's dream team D line is somehow far and away better than Tressel's is ludicrous. I still hold that Peterson and Heyward lined up inside enough to be eligible to be considered as d tackles for this exercise. When Nathan Williams was shifting around he lined up outside of Heyward on pretty regular basis. Watch the very first play of the game vs. Arkansas, or the interception against Miami. People forget that Tim Anderson, Quinn Pitcock, Darrion Scott, and Kenny Peterson were all third round picks, just like Adolphus Washington, Sam Hubbard and Dre'Mont Jones were (Tyquan Lewis was taken with the last pick of the second round). The all Tressel team has plenty of depth. Just because Sam Hubbard was drafted more recently than Darrion Scott, doesn't make him any better. Those guys were good, just because they played a few years ago, doesn't make them worse as Buckeyes.
Nick Bosa is an absolute beast, an all world talent, but his Buckeye career is utterly forgettable. Can you remember a single play, in an important game, that really stands out? I can remember a ton of Joey's. Walk off sack, a million Shrugs, the national championship game. There is a damn good reason that Bosa didn't start his sophomore year. He wasn't truly great yet. The guy started exactly 3 games, none of which Meyer even coached. Watch him against michigan, washed out on running plays, failing to set an edge, being undisciplined, some good pressures when he got one on one opportunities in the pass rush, but nothing really to stand out. I still remember Vernon Gholston against michigan, the guy was on fire, unstoppable.
On the Meyer team, I would take Chase Young's sophomore year over Bosa's any day of the week, but I would take Smith's two years, and Vernon Gholston his junior year over any of them. And damn, don't get me started on interior line play.