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Comment 13 Jan 2020

Yeah, for the limited amount of success the team had in the 80's, there were some pretty good players at OSU that decade, though I'd list Jackson and Funderburke as players in the 90's as Jackson only played 2 months in the 80's and Funderburke was all 90's at OSU.

I'd think you would have to put the all B1G Dials as the starting PF on the 00's team.  And while I don't know that I'd have him as a starter, a defensive tandem of Conley and Jekel Foster would have been outstanding.

Comment 13 Jan 2020

Personally, I would approach this topic with a player only being able to be part of 1 decade (the one they had the most significant contribution in).  That would put Turner in the 00's for sure, with an argument on where Diebler, Lighty and Buford should be.  The later three probably had more significant contributions in the 10's, so in leaving those 3 in the 10's and moving Turner to the 00's, who would replace him on the starting 5 for the 10's?

You could move Diop down to the 3 and use DT at the 4 which would give that team a lot of scoring punch, but defense with DAR and Thomas would be a little weak.  Putting LIghty at the 3 would make for a pretty outstanding defensive team and he shot the ball well late in his career.  I'd probably go with Lighty at the 3 to make the best team because he and Craft are by far the best defenders this past decade.  Thomas would have to be one of the best 5 players though.

Comment 13 Jan 2020

Kaleb going through the draft process isn't going to help him get drafted.  First, everyone who has been involved with him since he was a 9th grader has been telling him he needs to lose weight, get in better shape and improve his athleticism.  The NBA guys didn't tell him anything that others haven't been telling him already in that regard.  But more important, he just doesn't have an NBA game.  He's not athletic enough to play any position but center and he can't elevate to score over college centers, much less NBA guys.  He's a good 3pt shooter for his size and appears to have NBA range, but thats pretty much it.  He turns the ball over at a fairly high rate and can't finish off the dribble.  He may leave after this year, but its not going to be to play in the NBA.

Comment 12 Jan 2020

Our starting lineup for the most part has been a RS junior, a soph, a senior, and 2 juniors.  Thats actually quite a bit of experience.  Now the bench is very inexperienced with the Jallow injury, but I think the real issue is finding some kind of identity/continuity on offense.  We don't have guys that can beat people off the dribble very often and when they do aren't good finishers.  What is required is precise execution on offense and once the defenses got better, our inconsistent execution became a big problem.  IT takes too long for us to get into the flow and with the shot clock being only 30 seconds, that causes problems with having to take tougher shots.  It also seems evident that the frosh just weren't as ready for this level of play as some frosh in the top 50 are.  I think they all will be good in time and hopefully will improve little by little the next couple of months.

I don't know what is up with Muhammad and Washington.  Early in the year it looked like they had taken a step forward, but have back tracked the last 4-5 games. 

Again, I think we are trying a bit too hard to focus on Kaleb offensively.  He wasn't scoring that much early in the year and everyone else seem to benefit from that.  We've been working real hard to get him the ball and while I like running our offense through him at times, I don't think he's a horse that you want to ride that much.  His post game just isn't good enough for that. 

Comment 10 Jan 2020

Young is at 8.3 and 6.8 per game.  I think he does some things that don't show up in the score book and hopefully changes the dynamic when he returns as he surely adds to depth in the front court.  But, he isn't going to make any of the post season B1G teams as he just doesn't have much of an offensive repertoire.  Not saying I am looking for a trade, but if you look at his entire game (great hustle/athleticism, limited shooting/skill set), I'd say he's pretty much an average B1G starting PF.

Obviously we can agree to disagree.

Comment 10 Jan 2020

So you brought up Jallow and Young as being recruiting wins.  Do you think what they've done to date is below, above or just about average for players at their position compared to other B1G programs?

As a follow up, do you think OSU should compare itself to the average B1G team or to the top 1/3 of the conference?  My comparisons are based on expectations here at a university that is a top 20 bball program in the nation and certainly in the top 3-4 in the conference.

Comment 10 Jan 2020

He's had 4 recruiting classes and the best example of good recruiting is a junior who is a very solid and important player (especially to a team with no depth at the 5), but far from a star.  Jallow averaged 2.9 ppg in 15 minutes last year as a soph.  I'd have to disagree that what he has shown to date qualifies as being a big win in recruiting.  I wish he was available this year (again, lack of depth at the 3), but I can't really praise his body of work.

And just to be clear, I am not saying Holtmanns recruiting has been bad (C+ is just above average).  Of his first 4 classes (granted the first was on very short time), I'd say only 1 was above average for what we should expect at OSU and so far the players in that class haven't lived up to their rankings.

Comment 10 Jan 2020

I wouldn't call them "errors" for the reason you pointed out.  We tried to get some other guys, but you can't make them come here.

But, I would say the jury is out on what kind of recruiter Holtmann will be.  He has missed on higher prospects in some classes especially at the wing and C position.  I think it takes time to rebuild the program that can attract the top talent back, so I will show some patience, but if I am grading him on recruiting over the past 2.5 years, I'd probably call it a C+.  He's gotten a mixed bag of talent based on rankings (Not close to Matta in his early years and probably similar to O'Brien).  Now, rankings don't mean all that much if guys come in and perform in your system, but I wouldn't say anyone he has recruited has outperformed their ranking yet (could maybe argue for Washington given his start to this season).  We had a need for a big in the '19 and '20 classes and ended up with a project that needs a lot of work and an average sized PF that will have to play some center.

Now, if guys start showing marked improvement in year 2 and 3, then I'll re-evaluate recruiting based on Holt being able to see something long term in a recruit, but right now, I'd say he's just been a bit above average in that area with room for improvement.

But just to be clear, I am happy with the Holtmann hire and the direction of the program under him and I really like this years team.  I'm just offering my opinion of how I believe recruiting has gone to date.

Comment 09 Jan 2020

I thought WVU and MD made us take tough/rushed shots.  I thought against Wisky we just missed a lot of open shots which goes to the point of its difficult to predict our record in the next 6 because we just have no idea how we are going to shoot the ball. 

Good point on the defensive rankings of our opponents and was something I mentioned on another site as to why I think we win this weekend.

It will be interesting to see how Young impacts our offense.  You wouldn't think a guy that doesn't shoot much would make that much of a difference, but he's our best finisher around the basket and I think teams have to honor his rolling/cutting to the basket more than anyone else on our team.

Comment 09 Jan 2020

8-12 last year was good enough for the roster we had.  The roster wasn't Holtmann's doing.  Improvement was expected this year and it has been better to date.  I would say if we do finish 10-10 in conference then Holtmann underachieved this year, but again, this is only his second full recruiting class (as a late hire was able to get Young to flip).

We shot well in some games and have shot poorly in others and have had injury issues in all of our losses (technically all year since Jallow hasn't played).  Lets see what we look like with Kyle back and then we can start talking about whether this team has underachieved.

Comment 07 Jan 2020

Maryland has struggled because they haven't shot the ball well.  Ayala and Wiggins are shooting under 30% from three.  IT will be interesting matchups at the 2-4.  MD has Ayala as kind of a combo guard, then a couple of bigger wings at the 3-4.  We played pretty small against Wisky and we got beat on the boards and MD is a pretty good rebounding team.  Our keys will be to make sure they don't get wide open looks from three, control the defensive boards and to show patience getting the ball into the post and patience once it gets there.  Theirs will be to shoot better (31% from three as a team) and stay out of foul trouble in the post as they don't have much in the front court after Smith).  IF Smith picks up an early foul or two, could see a significant amount of zone from them.

Comment 07 Jan 2020

The only caveat to that is that we played small against Wisky.  If Young is in the game to attack the glass and draw the defenses attention in the post, then it allows Wesson to move away from the hoop more.  Andre is little to know concern on the inside and Liddell isn't playing fast enough right now.

Comment 06 Jan 2020

Ahrens is a shooter, not a scorer.  Hard to say how good of a shooter he is, but when playing in meaningful minutes, he looks rushed.

Diallo just isn't close to being ready mentally.  Gaffney is a little closer, but again, the game is ahead of him at the moment.  Probably should get more of a look with Young and Jallow out.

Our defense has been fine except for the performance by one guard who played over his head.  Struggles with toughness and on offense have been the issues in the losses.

With Young healthy, we have an 8 man rotation which is probably pretty average for a college team.  Its not the number of players in the rotation, but a lack of having guys who can create something.  The shorter the shot clock, the more important that is to have.  Carton has had his issues, but he's the one guy on the team that can create.

Comment 29 Dec 2019

When the refs slowed down calling the WVU fouls, the game changed.  WVU plays the way they always do and they hope that the refs only call 50-60 percent of the fouls they commit.  the refs called a lot of fouls, but that we ended up with more fouls than they did is a mild travesty.

Comment 27 Dec 2019

 basketball rs rule is different than football. An athlete can play up to 30% of the teams games, so depending on number of regular season games, usually 9 or 10.  However, you cannot pick and choose which games you play and the reason for the redshirt must be a medical one.  IF you play 1 minute after the teams first 10 games, your redshirt is gone.  if you play in the first 10 games and decide you just aren't playing enough, so you want to redshirt, you can't unless you have a medical reason.

Bohannon could do what he is doing because he has a bad hip and says the pain is too great to continue playing this year.  If Jallow played 1 minute the rest of the year, he would not be able to use a medical redshirt, though, if he came back a few games and got hurt again, he'd most likely be granted a waiver.

Comment 21 Dec 2019

Correct.  College athletes benefit a great deal from college sports, much beyond the free education, etc.

Comment 20 Dec 2019

Weitzel is a moron. 

Parity isn't any different than its been throughout the history of college football.  The teams are different due to the ebb and flow of coaching and recruiting, but look at the top teams from 15 years ago and everyone was talking about how anyone was going to be able to compete with USC, Miami, FSU for years to come. 

Now, I do think that parity has shrunk a little at the top and I blame the 4 team playoff and the process for selecting those teams.  One of the reasons UCLA dominated the 60's and early 70's (besides the bag men), was that the basketball tournament was limited to conference champions (limited opportunity to win the ultimate prize).  Basketball became more equal when more teams were allowed to eat at the dinner table.  Expand the playoffs to 16 teams giving some smaller conferences an opportunity to collect on the payday and entice players who want to play for that opportunity.  You would still have the blue bloods at the top consistently because those teams are the ones that provide them the best training to meet their ultimate goal, however, I think allow more playoff opportunities could help spread the talent around.  I think a coach like Petterson would have stuck around at Boise if he thought his school was getting a fair shake to play for a championship.  Frost may have stuck at UCF had he felt like they had a fair shot at a title. 

Comment 18 Dec 2019

The talent/athleticism disparity between SEMO and UK is extreme.  We won't get those kind of open looks often against UK who has struggled offensively, but gets after it pretty good on the defensive end.  If Kaleb struggles like he tends to do against bigger, more athletic defenders, we could have a tough time on the offensive end of the floor. 

Also need to get the top of the key ball screen figured out.  We either need to force the ball handler off to the side or pressure futher out so that the ball screen isn't being set at such a prime position.  SEMO was getting into the lane and passes underneath, but they just weren't big enough to finish. 

Comment 17 Dec 2019

Was thinking similar and Clemson has better players and more depth.  Agree that Fields was hobbled and RO was pretty much off the table, but I believe Clemson will pressure us more than any team has all season.  On the flip side though, Clemson hasn't faced an offense all year that is capable of doing what ours can.  IT will be interesting to see how each team adjusts to the others abilities and schemes.

Comment 17 Dec 2019

Agree with much of this, but a couple of points:

- Carr is listed as a junior though technically I think is a RS soph as he sat out his transfer year.  He is a pretty athletic guard, but he isn't nearly as good as he was against us (60% FT shooter, 30% from three before our game).  The zone defense seemed to work fairly well at preventing the first shot, but also hurt our rebounding.

- Carton is by far the best creator of his own offense on our team, but agree he gets out of control too often.  Needs to learn to stop his penetration when its not there and look for kick outs.  YOu don't always have to be 100 mph to the hoop if you beat your man.

- I don't think Kaleb's skill set is nearly as good as sullingers was.  Kaleb is stiff, while Sully was fluid.  Kaleb has good footwork, but hasn't perfected any particular move.  I think he needs to dumb down his post game a little and work on that little fadeaway jumper and duck through move when the defense overplays it and then a right handed jump hook.  He looks like he is thinking too much instead of attacking.  I do agree that he can't really elevate over anyone with size to finish, but with his bulk, the baby hook and fadeaway jumper should be enough if he perfects them.

- I do think our effort was down a bit in this game.  We stood around too much on offense and just didn't hedge the screens well.  I think Walker was anticipating the screen too much instead of getting into Carr early.  And for goodness sakes, make him go to the left.