I remember that year there was a lot of hand wringing about that. It was going to put a delay on a ton of bowl selections, and some were worried it would cut it too close for travel prep and stuff like that.
And if you gave me 5 guesses, I doubt I could pick out which teams were in each of those divisions. And that was during that debacle. Now it would be damn near impossible.
Purdue gave it a valiant effort last year (I think it was last year anyway). Wouldn't be surprised to see Illinois there in the next few years if they can keep their momentum from this year. Then TTUN can share their tears with only the sad sack crew that has to basically start their expectations with 4 losses minimum in the division every year.
No marquee OOC game this year, but the schedule has been surprisingly strong. IU is also providing an unexpected boost. Wisconsin is solid as usual. Nebraska and Maryland were ranked earlier this year (LOL how?, they don't really count though). MSU is a little disappointing, and NW is just ass this year. We'll end up playing probably 8 bowl eligible teams, not counting a championship game. MSU will get there with wins over Mayland and Rutger. Nebraska also has an outside shot to make it 9 if they can beat Maryland and steal one against either Wisconsin or Iowa. I highly doubt any other contenders can say the same. Bowl eligible is not really a good measure of playing tough teams, but it does show they aren't completely cupcakes. If teams playing as poorly as MSU and maybe even Nebraska can get bowl eligible, what does it say about those that are not eligible that clog up everyone else's schedules?
The only reason the teams from 8-16 from last week dropped, is because Minnesota vaulted past them (unless someone in there lost, but I don't think they did).
That's why I thought it was weird they were so surprised that Oklahoma dropped after a close win and were drawing comparisons to Clemson- UNC.
Eh...Oregon and Utah that are directly behind them haven't gotten any good wins either. I guess you could argue Minnesota and PSU above them, but SEC. SEC trumps resume.
Georgia as 1 loss champ over LSU. They'd all be trying to figure out the talking points to justify leaving undefeated Clemson out.
Georgia over Bama proves that line of thinking.
Anyone else notice on their little profile blurbs at the bottom that show quality wins, SOS and such: Alabama quality win #24 Texas A&M?
And Oregon #25 Washington. Then directly after, Utah #17 ASU, (unr) Washington.
This is exactly why using rankings at the time of the game makes absolutely zero logical sense. Without even considering how much preseason guesses factor into early rankings, just the fact that beating the same team can have different weights for those that beat them is preposterous.
If they choose Alabama over Oregon like that, the committee clearly broadcasts to every AD in the land: do not schedule anyone of consequence out of conference, ever.
Baylor beats OU this weekend, then loses the rematch.
Minn beats Iowa to all but lock up the West, then loses to Wisconsin and OSU. Wisconsin beating a #4 Minn gets them a little boost the second to last rankings.
Auburn beats Bama and all the questions about them getting in are worthless.
And now I see I left out Utah. I'd have them right after Minnesota at #11.
Oklahoma 11-2 conf champ
Alabama is 100% out if UGA is a 1 loss champ over LSU. B1G winner is in. UGA is in. Clemson is in as long as they don't lose. LSU gets in over Alabama, but they may go to an Oregon or Oklahoma/Baylor too. There should be no scenario in which Alabama gets in ahead of a team with a H2H victory in their own house, that's only loss is in a game Alabama didn't have to play because they didn't qualify for it. Either they still take LSU or go to a different conf champ.
Who gives a crap where they were ranked at the time of the game? Texas is nowhere near a top 10 team. Florida and Auburn are hanging around the 10-15 range, but between Auburn, Alabama, and UGA there are at least 2 more losses coming since Auburn plays the other 2.
At the end of the year if who is supposed to win, does: we'd have top 10 Alabama and Georgia, Florida probably right around 10ish, Texas either unranked or in the 20-25 range, and Auburn probably not much higher after losing 2 more games.
Our wins would be 15ish UC, 15ish TTUN, maybe top10 could be 10-15 PSU, and depending how their game goes, one of Wisconsin or Minnesota will be top 10, the other 10-15.
We won't have the high end of a couple solidly top 4-10 UGA and Bama unless Minnesota gets to Indy undefeated, but on the whole it's just as strong. Two of their "marquee" wins will be barely hanging on to a ranking (if at all) while ours should be solidly around 15-17ish or better. If IU can steal one of their next 2, they could knock that other one down a couple notches but solidify themselves in the 20s too.
Don't let preseason guesses affect how you value things.
IU is beating them this year. Mark it down.
Assuming there's not a bunch of chaos that would knock out the current top 3, Alabama should not get in this year. It's not even remotely fair to LSU who would have to potentially beat UGA in their championship game plus the possibility of Alabama again in the playoffs. This is especially true if they have LSU as the 1 seed. We would be saying to LSU: if you want to win it all, you need to beat UGA in an extra game that Bama didn't qualify for, AND have to beat Alabama twice this year. Alabama only needs to win 1 of 2 games against LSU and gets a bye through championship game week.
We've already seen an LSU-Bama matchup, and LSU beat them handily in their house, despite the final score. We don't need to see that matchup again to determine who wins, it already happened. The whole point of the playoff was to have it proven on the field. Give a different team a chance to prove it. At least when Georgia and Alabama were both in, they did not play during the season.
CFP rankings are about resume, until Alabama doesn't have one. Then, it changes to eye test. After they lose their 3rd game, they might be eliminated though. Either that, or the yearly Alabama invitational tournament will just be cancelled because the hosts couldn't participate.
Because Georgia has actually beaten a couple teams with a little bit of a pulse. Alabama's best win was their loss to LSU. They should drop below more than just UGA if they are looking at resumes. At this point it would be likely they only have 1 win over a top 25 team at the end of the year, that being an 8-4ish Auburn hanging around the 20s.
I would hesitate to put them (Minn) above 6-8ish right now. They did really struggle in their wins against not spectacular competition early in the year. If they keep winning and knock off Iowa and Wisconsin, they will definitely be in the top 4 at that point.
This week's rankings don't really mean anything. They re-rank each week, not move teams up/down based on previous rankings like the polls do.
Our cupcake games can all be at noon, I don't mind those. A couple night games are cool, too. I really want our default start time to be the mid afternoon times. Starting in daylight and ending under the lights is great. You can either eat supper at halftime, or have a late meal after the game. Nooners are the appetizers. The Buckeyes should never be the appetizer against a team with a pulse.
That is because afternoon is unquestionably the best time to start college football games. 3:30-5 is ideal, even up to about 7 is good. Later than that they start to get too late. Earlier games are for appetizers. Ohio State is not an appetizer.
Well, we played them twice so...
I think I've said the same thing on here before, but not quite so eloquently. The computers favor a schedule of consistent "good" but the tougher schedule for playoff caliber teams to navigate is one elite team and some average to below teams filling it out. When one loss is so damaging, and the elite teams should still have little trouble with anyone in the 20s to unranked. The difference between 45 and 100 shouldn't faze these teams at all. Playing 5, 100, 97 is a bigger risk than playing 35, 32, 40. But the computers will have the latter as head and shoulders above the former.
Caught that, too. In the question to him, they asked how tOSU was ahead of LSU when they have quality wins over Texas, Florida, and Auburn. Then, he clearly not accidentally left Texas off when discussing their big wins. The only thing that would have made it better would have been saying that tOSU has quality wins over Wisconsin, UC, and Indiana.